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Bullying recently erupted as the cause du jour for fearful helicopter parents, lazy reporters looking for an easy story and twerps tired of being stuffed into lockers.

Part of this is due to Dan Savage and the “It Gets Better” Campaign that started off as a way to reassure gay and lesbian teenagers that they wouldn’t have to go through their entire lives getting brutalized by meatheads. No, in the working world, you will be brutalized because your boss is a moron and that is a universal fate suffered by straights and gays alike.

But for all the well-intentioned online video campaigns and anti-bullying seminars in the world, bullies understand one thing: Violence. Sheer, pitiless violence. The strong prey upon the weak. It has ever been thus. A teenage feeb can hope a teacher is around when some mono-browed mouth-breather runs his drawls up the flag pole. He can hope his mother will complain to the school when some burnout yanks his pants down in the cafeteria. He can hope that some creepy dude moves into his bully’s neighborhood and that maybe a little frottage teaches said bully that there is always someone stronger driving around in a windowless van.

Or, and this is my recommendation, he can drop a motherfucker on his head. Violence may or may not solve the problem, but we can’t know until we try.

The story is that our chubby friend Casey here has been bullied his whole life and decided one day that it was time to put an end to that shit. Casey has been suspended from school, and for good reason, but sometimes the crime is worth the punishment.

Jason Harris recognizes that this kind of thing probably makes him a bad parent, and he is okay with that.

UPDATE: Evidently, they’ve taken the video down. But you can still find it here.









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Video removed.

Posted by: L.O.V.E. at March 14, 2011 8:05 PM

It's still viewable over at Deadspin.com

http://deadspin.com/#!5781702/the-ultimate-anti+bullying-psa-kid-fights-back-with-devastating-body-slam

But be advised, it's brutal.

-Ralphie

Posted by: Ralphie at March 14, 2011 8:21 PM

OK, I watched without sound, so I know not what verbal ripostes these two threw at each other, and I would never advocate violence {cough}, but:

The scrawny kid clearly started it, and sometimes you reap what you sow. (However, parents of the bigger kid might want to cut down on his WWE viewing.)

Posted by: MM at March 14, 2011 8:32 PM

Some genius at my middle school thought it was a great idea for the 7th and 8th graders to have gym class together. I spent an entire year getting bullied -- shoved around, balls being thrown at my head, lots of physical torment.
Then, one day, I snapped. During a game of handball, one of the 8th graders shoved me to the floor. I popped back up and punched him in the jaw. He immediately clocked me in the side of the head, and I blacked out.
When I came to, only a few seconds had passed and he was still hovering over me, but being restrained by the teacher and a fellow student. When it came time to explain everything to the teacher, I told them about the year of harassment.
They ended up getting in trouble, not me.
To the administrator who suspended this kid who had decided to fight back -- fuck you and, uh, fuck you too.

Posted by: Jim Doggie at March 14, 2011 8:32 PM

The skinny punk punched first. That Casey was punished at all is ludicrous. Love the amazon stepping into the fray.

Posted by: James S at March 14, 2011 8:33 PM

Bravo, Casey.

Posted by: admin at March 14, 2011 8:41 PM

It sucks the whole thing had to be violent at ALL.

Both instances looked painful.

Posted by: grace b at March 14, 2011 8:49 PM

He should have kicked the little fucker a few times while he was still down.

Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at March 14, 2011 8:49 PM

I wasn't fat in grade school. But I was big and lanky and bullied. I went to a catholic school where any attempt to stand up for myself was viewed as "me losing my temper" and not reacting to be constantly tormented on a daily basis. So while I hope the antagonist of this situation is OK, a part of me says "that's what you f*cking get".

Posted by: danlewis84 at March 14, 2011 8:55 PM

I got bullied a lot when I was in middle school, but I learned a great tactic to avoid the serious beatdowns: stand next to someone twitchy. When the bullies come, the first one to run gets chased.

I also learned that if you look slightly unstable, people tend to fuck with you less.

Later, a buddy of mine effectively ended bullying at our high school when he grabbed one of the bigger bullies in a headlock and dropped his skull into a steel banister.

Posted by: ahamos at March 14, 2011 9:16 PM

Found here:
http://h8torade.com/2011/03/14/casey-heynes-gets-bullied-at-school-stands-up-for-himself-hulk-smashes-kid-and-gets-suspended/

And he should have taken the opportunity to kick that skinny bullying fuck in the mouth.

Posted by: godzilla_foil at March 14, 2011 9:32 PM

I was always a short kid in school. So bullies thought it was a good idea to bully me. Wrong! My older cousins taught me how to fight. Bad times for the bullies, beat each and every one up. Never had a problem with bullies. I recommend all bullies get the beat down. It is the only solution.

Posted by: Faraz at March 14, 2011 10:07 PM

That skinny runt was writing checks his body JUST couldn't cash.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 14, 2011 10:18 PM

This time, it ended with a kid dropped on his head. Another time, it might end in someone bringing a gun to class.

Parents on both sides of the spectrum (bullies and bullied) need to address these issues when they see them. And the school administration should be fucking ashamed of themselves for suspending this kid and not the other.

Posted by: Markus at March 14, 2011 10:18 PM

Oh and now they should sue the little asshole's parents, the district, the school, the principal, the teachers and anybody who allowed that bullshit to reach such proportions.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 14, 2011 10:22 PM

I was raised in a very very non-violent household, one where my brothers weren't even allowed to play hockey. I grew up in Canada and this was a very big deal.

One day, my younger brother was getting picked on (he's big like this guy, super gentle and kind), and he fought back verbally. The situation escalated until the kid punched my brother in the face. My brother only hit back once, but the kid was knocked to the ground.

My brother came home and proudly told my dad how he didn't fight back until he had to. We were all shocked when my dad reamed him out for letting anyone hit him, even once. The thing is that one wrong punch or series of punches can lead to brain damage and frankly, it's effing assault.

You have the inalienable right to defend yourself.

Posted by: Tits McGee at March 14, 2011 10:51 PM

I used to get hit a lot like this. I was/am the big kid: tall and sort of wide. My parents never let me fight back (older sisters would cry if I fought back so parents would punish me if I stood up for myself). It took me until I was 16 (hey, what a coincidence) to realize that I was bigger than the kids picking on me and I fought back. Once they realize you aren't afraid and you are capable of fighting back, the bullying usually stops.

Posted by: maka at March 14, 2011 11:17 PM

I too was HEAVILY bullied in Jr. High. I wasn't really the type to fight, so usually I'd either stand there and take it or run (I got to be pretty speedy and agile for that brief period of time). Over time however, my psyche just had e-fucking-nough, and I basically developed what I now call the "Red Curtain of Rage". Some kid would be poking me in the face, or pushing me, or whatever silly thing they thought was funny that day, and I would basically gray out for a few seconds. I would come to wildly swinging my fists and yelling. Unfortunately, this really only made me look worse as I hardly ever connected with this frenzy, and when it did it was weak and ineffectual. It went away by high school (as did the bullying), but it still sorta creeps me out that my anger ever got to that point.

All that said, good on Casey.

Posted by: JustBill at March 14, 2011 11:37 PM

JustBill, I got the rage too. This one evil fuck used to torment me. I prayed for his painful, horrific demise. One day I just had enough and I whacked him in the head with a heavy textbook. Shocked the shit out of him. He left me alone after that. One of my fondest memories.

No no, that asshole hasn't died yet. Fucker.

Posted by: TWoP_Fan at March 15, 2011 12:00 AM

To this day, I have no fucking clue why this happened but in 8th grade, I ended up getting the shit kicked out of me by three classmates. I don't think I had even said two words to the group of them. I ended up with a broken forearm, broken leg, three broken fingers.

Because I fought back, evident by my fingers getting broken (according to my idiot principle) I ended up getting suspended for 3 days, the same exact punishment those clowns got. Yep...zero tolerance makes so goddamn much sense.

Fast forward and I am 19 and trying to get into the military. I had to get two waivers cause of those fucks. (one for the suspension, the other for the metal plate I had to get in my forearm).

BUT....I got the best tasting meal about a year later. I had come back to my shit hole home town to visit my folks after my first deployment. My home town is so damn small that at the time there was basically one place to get lunch without driving for a fucking hour. Who do I see working the shitty burger stand? The shit head ringleader that beat the fuck out of me for no reason. Nothing like seeing him behind a fucking fryer at the age of 20, with zero prospects. Later found out from a friend that never left our town that he was still living at home, having to support his high school girlfriend he got pregnant before either of them even graduated. Even later, got to read he got nicked on a meth charge the last year I was in the military when I was home reading the local paper.

I honestly feel conflicted. I feel for Casey and there is obviously a lot wrong with his school that this shit went this far. I still believe however that physical violence is never the best answer. In this case, I suspect however that not matter what Casey would have done, he would have been screwed by the adults that should be actively preventing this crap.

Posted by: Diablo at March 15, 2011 12:22 AM

I can almost guarantee you the big kid will not get picked on anymore. Like someone said unthread, bullies only pick on those they think make good targets. If you stop being a good target, you're off the list.

I also agree with whoever said it's too bad it had to come to is. This is why I'm glad adults are much more aware of bullying and that it CAN have pretty serious consequences. In my day, adults mostly looked the other way. Now, it's different, which is good.

Posted by: Snuggiepants at March 15, 2011 12:29 AM

The person videotaping this incident must have known somethign was coming, so who was setting up whom? I like that the little kid's first shot to the head draws no response whatsoever. If it were a cartoon, the big kid would have smiled wickedly while spitting out some teeth.

Posted by: , at March 15, 2011 1:00 AM

What the fuck is wrong with you Pajiba? It's one thing to make funny comments of movies but this is a serious topic and a lot of kids, especially nerdy types that would be the victim of bullying visit this site and idiotic articles like this may inspire them to do something extremely stupid

Because guess what? Real life is not like the movies. The human body when hit the right way is extremely fragile. Even a freaking punch could hurt someone a lot. You can very easily cripple or outright kill someones if you have no idea what you are doing.

What this stupid fattie did is not something to inspire. He could have killed or paralyzed this kid and then both of their lives would have been ruined

So not unless you actually know how to fight violence isn't the answer

So Pajiba stick to bitching about movies cause you are not good at giving advice

Posted by: Yesplease at March 15, 2011 2:34 AM

Bullies should die. Until you have a child that is bullied you have no idea what it does to them. I would happily take a baseball bat to the head of every piece of shit punk that has fucked with my kids. I tell my kids to fight back knowing damn well their school (which is really a year long ISTEP test) frowns upon it and it may get them suspended. I'm sorry, if someone hits you, you hit back. If someone shoves you, shove harder. No one should have to go through that.

Posted by: TylerDFC at March 15, 2011 6:56 AM

What this stupid fattie did is not something to inspire.

Posted by: Yesplease at March 15, 2011 2:34 AM

Fuck you and die, hippie scum.

Posted by: Winterbottom at March 15, 2011 7:15 AM

What this stupid fattie did is not something to inspire.
Posted by: Yesplease at March 15, 2011 2:34 AM

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5/10 for effort, you lost it at the end there.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at March 15, 2011 7:54 AM

@Yesplease: what would you prefer? That the "stupid fattie" know his place and take the punches to the face like a man? Or that the bullying continues until he decides to bring a weapon to school?

Another friend of mine said he read an article stating the instigating prick got 21 days suspension, so I'm hoping that Casey isn't actually the only one punished here. And I'm hoping that the little shit's parents don't do something asinine like sue Casey's family and the school to boot.

Posted by: Markus at March 15, 2011 8:16 AM

As a victim of bullying in middle school, by a group of girls who were the absolute devil, my situation never lead to fisticuffs luckily. But, I still remember it like it was yesterday.
I wish it would not have come to that, but the skinny kid deserved it. He punched him in the face several times, not to mention whatever he had done before. This kid just lost it and defended himself, not knowing his own strength. He is young and needed to learn this lesson now, instead of a bar fight at the age of 21 where alcohol and bar stools are involved. That skinny kid? He ain't never gonna be right, and he knows exactly why.

Posted by: daria at March 15, 2011 8:40 AM

@Yesplease: what would you prefer? That the "stupid fattie" know his place and take the punches to the face like a man? Or that the bullying continues until he decides to bring a weapon to school?

Yes. Cause these are the only two options. God forbid he actually learns how to fight and does it properly. Or that he simply subdues the skinny kid harmlessly. Or hell even simply telling the school or his parents is a better option. Using a move that can potentially seriously injure or outright cripple or kill the other is not a good idea in any case

I get it. You people have issues with bullying. Bohoho. Get over it and use your brain for two seconds. This is not a movie. This is real life and the consequences are all too real. This kid could potentially ruined two lives just because of his idiocy. he should not be celebrated. He should be punished. Harshly

Posted by: Yesplease at March 15, 2011 9:26 AM

@Yesplease

That's easy for you to say. I take it you never were in a situation like this. As always, the issue is more complex than you (or others here) might believe. Did you stop for a minute and thought about why the "stupid fattie" did not tell his parents or the teachers of the bullying? Maybe he did not want to be seen as a tattletale or a weakling? Telling grown-ups would have made the whole thing even worse, because the little fuck and his friends (these assholes always come in groups, because they are cowards) would have taken revenge, which would have been escalated the whole affair even further.

As for learning to fight: Yeah, right. At this point, the boy has not enough courage to join any club where might be even more bullies.

In a situation like this, after probably years of being bullied, you just see red. You don't think about what you are doing, you just want to kill the fucker.

Did Casey did something wrong? Yes, no argument there. Did the bully risk the whole thing? Yes, not argument there. Who is to blame? The bully, the parents of both kids and the teachers. Certainly not Casey, because he was trapped and had only the one way out left.

Posted by: FabMax at March 15, 2011 9:51 AM

I don't know what is sadder: the video itself or the responses to it.

I'll be in the corner shaking my head.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at March 15, 2011 9:53 AM

ok I realize we aren't supposed to feed the trolls but @Yesplease give me an f-ing break ok! I was the person witnessing these types of things and MANY times had to tell bullies either you leave that kid alone or you will have to deal with ME! which was NOT a good choice. That little kid punched Casey in the face prior to getting dropped on his head or were you watching a different video. Its people like you who parent wild little banshee priveleged kids who think its ok to taunt and tease someone for no goddamn reason!

Posted by: blacksred at March 15, 2011 10:00 AM

Yesplease,

Looked to me like Casey didn't have the option of taking fighting lessons at that moment. I'd give him 3 minutes' detention; 21 days sounds about right for the little wharf rat.

Posted by: , at March 15, 2011 10:25 AM

I take it you never were in a situation like this.
Yes that's why unlike so many people here I am not blinded by bias

As always, the issue is more complex than you (or others here) might believ
The issue is complex. The answer isn't. You don't endanger children's lives and you certainly don't cheer for someone who endangers people lives

Did you stop for a.....
I don't give a crap about the excuses. Unless his life was in actual danger you don't use such dangerous moves

In a situation like this, after probably years of being bullied, you just see red. You don't think about what you are doing, you just want to kill the fucker.
If he lost his temper it's much better then if he consciously took this decision but this is no excuse. There should still be a harsh punishment. And all the idiots here who praise him are doing the worst possible thing. The kid needs to learn a lesson not to be made a celeb. Because so far the consequences for his actions are what? A few days suspension and overwhelmingly positive reaction on the internet. Do you think this will teach him that what he did was bad. What's to stop him from doing again? And what if the next time he doesn't so lucky and cracks open the skull of some kid? Or breaks his neck? Then what?

Who is to blame?
Everybody.Including the kid who needs to be taught a harsh lesson

And even more importantly all the numbskulls who cheer for this irresponsible act. Especially the writer of this article. As I mentioned it's one thing to make fun of movies but encouraging and praising behavior that endangers children's lives is not fun. It's moronic and irresponsible.

So as far this pathetic attempt at humor here

Jason Harris recognizes that this kind of thing probably makes him a bad parent, and he is okay with that.

I really hope this is a joke and he doesn't have kids otherwise I pity them for having such a irresponsible twat as a father. Seriously man think before you write


Posted by: Yesplease at March 15, 2011 10:55 AM

It's always been weird to me that some of the meanest bullies are scrawny little bastards. Maybe they're just repeating what gets done to them at home by a parent or older sibling. Too bad neither parent told this kid that if you're going to pick on someone, you might want to do it to someone who doesn't outweigh you by 30 pounds. Dummy. He really was asking for it.

Most people, when pushed enough, will fight back. Violently. And I'm OK with that, too.

Posted by: Slash at March 15, 2011 10:56 AM

The big kid has now probably learned that as an individual the extreme violence reponse will always get the man on your back regardless of of the justness of your cause.

The skinny little kid now knows the danger of punching that far above your weight class.

they're kids they will both grow in the directions they are nurtured towards by this and many other experiences - a GOOD administration would discuss the incidents and the history that led to it with them together

@yesplease - you're equally blinded by the bias of never having suffered the torment of others - you're not objective but rather are aloof and superior and arguing from a position of perceived moral authority due to your perception that those you argue against have are inherently wrong as evidenced by the judgemental nature of your language - like a slightly more rational version of Fox News
you're not wrong but your perception that those whose opinion is different from yours are inherently so is deeply misguided

Posted by: PyD at March 15, 2011 11:09 AM

@yesplease - you're equally blinded by the bias of never having suffered the torment of others - you're not objective but rather are aloof and superior and arguing from a position of perceived moral authority
I argue from the position of simple common sense. I have seen first hand how fragile the human body is. I broke my friends arm when we simply goofing around in the classroom. I messed up another friends leg pretty bad when we were playing football and I broke a teammates nose in basketball again by accident. It's very easy to hurt someone even without meaning it and when you do something as stupid as dropping someone on their head the danger is increased a thousand fold

You all seem to neatly avoid addressing my main point. That this kind of a move could have killed or crippled the kid. Then two lives would have been ruined together. The scrawny douche would be dead and the fattie would have to live with the consequences and guilt for the rest of his life

That's what I am trying to pound into the skulls of everybody here. Just how dangerous pulling a stunt like this and what horrible consequences there can be from it. This not something to cheer about

you're not wrong but your perception that those whose opinion is different from yours are inherently so is deeply misguided
My opinion is that you shouldn't endanger children's lives nor should you cheer for people who do. It's that simple.

Posted by: Yesplease at March 15, 2011 11:25 AM

Yes that's why unlike so many people here I am not blinded by bias.

But you are. Since you've never been put it this situation that makes you exceptionally biased. What you probably don't realize is that bullies don't just let you walk away. To them, that verily reeks of weakness. So, to continue compensating for their small penises they will continue to harass and assault you until you either break, or smack the little prick.

Oh, and if you just try to peaceably subdue your assailant, then his equally phallically challenged friends will just get involved.

Posted by: admin at March 15, 2011 11:27 AM

As someone who has been trained to fight, Casey performed perfectly. When you are in a fight you don't want to be in, you do what you need to do to end it as quickly and with as little risk to yourself as possible.
Casey had no way of knowing what the aggressor was going to do next - if he would go for Casey's eyes or pull out a weapon, etc. Casey knew only that he was being hurt, and he didn't like it, and he didn't want to get hurt worse. There was no opportunity for flight. His remaining option was fight (not including the ridiculous idea of standing there and risking his own brain damage).
You should note that Casey walked away once he was no longer being attacked.
The attacker gave up any right to personal safety when he threw his first punch.

Posted by: Brigs at March 15, 2011 11:34 AM

Reason doesn't seem to be working and you can't negotiate with terrorists, so how about a diversionary tactic. Here is the email I just sent Mr. Julien:

According to Rotten Tomatoes there is a new movie coming out called The Lion of Judah:

"Follow the adventures of a bold lamb (Judah) and his stable friends as they try to avoid the sacrificial alter the week preceding the crucifixion of Christ. It is a heart-warming account of the Easter story as seen through the eyes of a lovable pig (Horace), a faint-hearted horse (Monty), a pedantic rat (Slink), a rambling rooster (Drake), a motherly cow (Esmay) and a downtrodden donkey (Jack). This magnificent period piece with its epic sets is a roller coaster ride of emotions. Enveloped in humor, this quest follows the animals from the stable in Bethlehem to the great temple in Jerusalem and onto the hillside of Calvary as these unlikely heroes try to save their friend. The journey weaves seamlessly through the real biblical accounts of Palm Sunday, Jesus turning the tables in the temple, Peter's denial and with a tense, heart-wrenching climax, depicts the crucifixion and resurrection with gentleness and breathtaking beauty."

It’s ”enveloped in humour”! Finally, a chance to use all of my animal sacrifice AND crucifixion jokes in one place! It's Crucifixilicious!

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at March 15, 2011 11:36 AM

It doesn't need to be a completely peaceful subduing. Just harmless as in not truly endangering his life like this kid did.

Posted by: Yesplease at March 15, 2011 11:37 AM

What Yesplease doesn't seem to understand is that many of us know that pile driving (is that the term? I don't watch that fake-ass pro wrestling, I'm unsure of the correct terminology) is indeed not a smart thing to do and could indeed inflict serious injury on someone. Because of that, I do think the bigger kid should be punished. His response was disproportionate to the other kid's provocation. Of course, he's a kid. It's possible he doesn't know pro wrestling is largely make-believe.

But the smaller kid learned a lesson here: leave people the fuck alone. If he had been seriously injured (assuming he wasn't, which would be something of a miracle), it would have been as much his fault as the bigger kid's.

When you fuck with people for no reason, you may very well get a disproportionate response. And few people would sympathize with you. Most people are always going to sympathize with the person who was just minding their own business rather than the person who decided to fuck with them just for funsies.

Posted by: Slash at March 15, 2011 11:47 AM

I, like Daria, was bullied by a lot of incredibly horrible girls in Jr High. They were people who fought using words and backstabbing and a lot of unspeakable non-violent things. I almost wish it had been as direct as throwing a few blows. I DID in fact learn how to fight - I studied Taekwondo for over three years, got to my first degree black belt and then moved on. I take violence very seriously as a result.

That being said, I think what happened here is sad. Both kids were in the wrong, but I absolutely understand the need for self defense. The problem is that it escalated from a couple of punches (dick move) to dropping someone ON HIS HEAD. Both kids were wrong, both kids deserve some level of punishment. I want to root for the kid for standing up for himself, but there were better ways (yes, even of the violent variety) to accomplish this. I just hope this created a conversation rather than a blanket of blame and punishment - if you don't address the causation for these things, you will never eradicate the problem.

Posted by: KatSings at March 15, 2011 12:03 PM

There is no disproportionate response when you are threatened. There is no way of knowing what your opponent is going to do. For your own safety, you have to assume the worst. Because the human body is so fragile, you have to assume the next punch you take could kill you. It's not your obligation to consider the well-being of your attacker. That little shit would have been fine if he would have walked away before the fight. Brain damage, paralysis, and death are the risks he took when he opted to start the fight. Casey did not sign up for those risks. Anything that could have or did happen to the little big-man is not Casey's fault.

Casey is the victim here in every conceivable way. He was forced to do what he did. He did not wake up that morning and think, "It would be fun to drop this kid on his head." You don't have time to think in these situations. You act. Or you get hurt.

Posted by: Brigs at March 15, 2011 12:56 PM

What Yesplease doesn't seem to understand is that many of us know that pile driving (is that the term? I don't watch that fake-ass pro wrestling, I'm unsure of the correct terminology) is indeed not a smart thing to do and could indeed inflict serious injury on someone.
I hope so but I don't see many people mentioning it. I know I may sound like one of those crazy people who scream at how video games and movies make children kill and such b.s but I am a strong believer in human stupidity and the stupidity of children. And the way this story is spun right now what we get "Man Fattie is so cool to kick the Skinny Douche's ass. Everybody loves and approves of him and all he got was a few days suspensions. Hell the writer of this article who should know better outright says "Or, and this is my recommendation, he can drop a motherfucker on his head." I know it's supposed to be humorous but again I point human and especially child stupidity. I can easily see some stupid children trying the same and one of them ending dead , with brain damage or paralyzed

That's why I think it's very important for someone to point out how horribly wrong this stunt have gone instead of everything being full of blind cheering on how cool this is. It's not cool it's stupid, dangerous and extremely irresponsible.

Posted by: Yesplease at March 15, 2011 12:57 PM

What you must realize is this was not a stunt. The victim never had the opportunity to call for his double to come in and take the pounding. Any steps he took to end the conflict were the correct steps. Everything that happened between the first punch and the end of the fight was the attacker's fault.

Posted by: Brigs at March 15, 2011 1:28 PM

@ Yesplease - I'll directly address your main point. The human body is indeed fragile. But look at it another way- how many children are permanently injured because bullies are too stupid (or don't care enough) to realise that there are physical consequences to physical abuse?

I'm curious- if someone broke into your home and came at you with violence, would you refrain from defending yourself/fighting back because their body is fragile and you don't want to cause them damage? Well, guess what- in terms of fear, that is the same situation a child faces when confronted by a bully.

@ Brigs- holla.

Posted by: Amandahugandkiss at March 15, 2011 2:25 PM

Would it have been wiser for Casey to just punch the little fucker in the stomach? Yes. But a)it seems that these little bastards made a habit of training boxing on Casey (as evidenced by the casual approach) b)he's just a fucking kid.
The little bastard, his parents and the school should be punished and punished severely for allowing such things to happen. Casey should get a slap on the wrist and be taught how to use his strength proportionately to the attack.
I fought back when I was bullied, even though I weighed 40 kilos in elementary school - I bit and scratched and kicked with all my might and I intend on teaching my kids the same. Bullies do not understand any other language but the language of violence. Parents can teach their kids to fight back, wisely and without incurring too much damage on the little future McDonalds employees. Whoever attacks first forfeits their right to pity.

Posted by: astounded at March 15, 2011 2:34 PM

I disagree with Brigs that anything the bigger kid did would be OK. This is a fight at school. It's not one adult male being jumped by another adult male in a darkened alley at 2 AM. In which case, I'd agree anything you did to get out of the alley alive is OK, including killing the other person. I'm not a pacifist. If you fuck with someone for no reason, I figure you pretty much deserve whatever happens. If that someone happens to not have a problem killing someone who attacks him/her, oh well. You chose poorly.

The bigger kid is just a kid, but I don't think he felt his life was in danger. I think he probably just didn't want to get in trouble all the times he was probably bothered by the smaller, asshole kid for fighting back (because he knows he's bigger - he's not stupid), but just got mad and overreacted. Because he's a kid and kids are not known for great impulse control. He ended the fight. Whether he did it the right way is obviously up for debate.

Posted by: Slash at March 15, 2011 3:17 PM

If no one knows yet...the little shit got his ankle broken.

I support the big kid. I was a big kid in school, always got picked on for being "fat." Until I snapped one day against three people that were picking on me in the locker room after football practice. I slammed one of their heads into a locker, flipped another one into a row of lockers, and simply knocked the third one down. Guess what...no one picked on me anymore.

Well...until I moved to GA.

Posted by: DeistBrawler at March 15, 2011 3:20 PM

That's what I am trying to pound into the skulls of everybody here. Just how dangerous pulling a stunt like this and what horrible consequences there can be from it. This not something to cheer about.

Posted by: Yesplease at March 15, 2011 11:25 AM

Okay, here's what troubles me about the majority of your responses. In virtually every case, you refer to the kids by names (Fattie, the Skinny Douche), whereas the majority of people you're going out of your way to teach and inform (our eternal gratitude, BTW, that you deigned to lower yourself to our stupid skulls' level) have been trying to offer him some dignity by referring to the larger kid by his name. The smaller kid's name wasn't used (that I remember). The way you nickname and castigate a clearly bullied and trouble boy leads me to believe that no, you were never bullied, because maybe you WERE the bully. All of your injury laden "accidents" play into that opinion, but I'll be quick to point out that it IS just an opinion, and only my opinion.

And you'd rather the kid learn how to PROPERLY fight? Why, so that when he gets fed up the next time he really can injure the bully in a serious way? No one thinks the actual body slam was a good thing. Even those of us who were bullied recognize the potential for serious injury. The point YOU aren't getting is that Casey wasn't (I assume) standing there waiting for the perfect moment to strike, to try out his latest WWE moves. He was being picked on, verbally and physically assaulted, and since you admitted you were never bullied, you'll never know what it's like in the head of a kid who feels victimized, or what it feels like to reach the point where you have had. enough. Sometimes you reach the end of your rope and react without any thought. And so when we say "Good on you Casey" or whatever, it's not for the move he used or the fact that he injured his attacker, it's for the fact that he stood up for himself.

Posted by: JustBill at March 15, 2011 5:16 PM

Casey is a child. Simply put. He is not a martial artist trained in ways to walk away from a fight. He simply had enough and used his obvious strength over the other kid in the easiest way possible. Move it out of the way! There was a kid video taping it, which I am sure was one of the instigators friends', because if Casey's friends were taping his ass get beat well...
I saw so many ugly things in middle school from a group of girls, in a Catholic school, I can only imagine a boy being literally being hit every day would be like.

Posted by: daria at March 15, 2011 5:19 PM

There's an article about this on a news site, and the reporters and 'child bullying experts' were amazed that the responses were predominantly cheering for Casey.
The whole holier-than-thou 'oh, that's such a bad thing to do' reaction, well, that's basically a requirement.
But amazement? This so-called expert, who apparently spends all day dealing with bullying, is geniunely surprised that kids are celebrating the bully getting smacked down?
That's an expert I wouldn't bother with. Dude obviously lives in a bubble.

That said, good on Casey for walking away. And extra props to the girl who stepped in and also kept it from escalating.

Posted by: ScienceGeek at March 15, 2011 6:19 PM

I'm just echoing a lot of other people here, but the body slam wasn't a good thing; Casey just didn't know his own strength and didn't know any better.

I go to Rutgers University, so the "It Gets Better" campaign has been huge there after Tyler Clementi. I'm not a supporter of violence, but seeing the tactics that this program takes, I can understand where Casey was coming from. Counseling for victims is of course a good thing, but let's be real here, people. You're not going to reform a ten-year-old bully with an hour long school assembly about tolerance. Someone in high school or college, you may have a better chance, but it would still be very difficult. Telling a teacher or faculty member or having a parent complain to the school is not going to help either. I know from experience, once you're out of the teachers' sight, the bullying continues as bad if not worse than before. Sometimes a kid just can't take anymore and this is how things get settled. I say it's better this way than to have the bullying continue and the victim get a knife or gun.

Posted by: Patrick the Bunny at March 15, 2011 7:02 PM

Also

@Slash

Totally agree with you on wondering why bullies seem to be the smallest kids. As soon as I hit play it was the first thing that came to my mind.

When I was in elementary and middle school, I was a big kid. By seventh grade I was over six feet and two hundred pounds. There was another kid who was even bigger than me, and the two of us were the biggest pussies you can be. We got picked on constantly by kids we outweighed by at least fifty pounds. I don't know if these kids had a Napoleonic complex or what, but who the fuck in their right mind tries that? Even for a kid who's eleven years old it seems pretty stupid to me. Yeah, the victim might never hit back like I didn't, but all it takes is one time for that bully to push his victim too far over the line to get seriously fucked up, as in the case of this kid bullying Casey.

I never went to teachers or anyone about it because I just stopped letting it bother me so much after a while, and I also learned it doesn't really stop the bullying in any way. However, a teacher one time caught this one (small) kid giving me a hard time, and her immediate reaction, before she even told him to stop, was, "He could slug you."

I never did, but I still smile when I think about that.

Posted by: Patrick the Bunny at March 15, 2011 7:16 PM

I read this thread last night, but only just got to see the video this morning.

Casey was quite right in what he did, acting in self defence.

The boy that punched him, and his compliant friend that was filming it for their entertainment, deserve any and all punishment coming their way.

Posted by: frank_247 at March 16, 2011 4:45 AM

I propose a third solution. The victim in this case should have not have reacted violently but instead reported the incident to the school authorities. Now, I know this usually causes more retaliations by the bullies but the school authorities can talk to the bully about his behavior ...and then take him to the hospital where he is sent into surgery and his arms and legs are removed. After that there will be no future violence by this child. Harsh yes, but the number of future altercations will go way way down.

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