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Oldboy / Dustin Rowles

Underappreciated Gems | November 21, 2008 | Comments (45)


Last week, we reported what was surely inevitable: That there’d be an Oldboy remake, this one directed by Steven Spielberg and starring Will Smith. Earlier this week, it was also announced that Poseidon and I Am Legend screenwriter, Mark Protosevich, would be handling script duties. Purely on principle, we tend the reject the idea of a remake outright, but if box-office history is any indication, it usually doesn’t prevent us from seeing the end product. But there’s something even more unsettling about remaking this Korean classic. It’s a beautifully violent film, operatic even, about vengeance, which suits American tastes. But it’s also about guilt and pride in a way that’s uniquely Old World. The plot revelations that unfold over the last half hour of Oldboy work in the context of a Korean film, but in the context of an American film, with American actors, with Will Smith for God’s sake, those same revelations would be laughable. I don’t want to spoil anything for those who haven’t seen Oldboy yet, but for those who have, can you imagine? The Fresh Prince of Bel Air? Motherfucking Hitch? There isn’t an ounce of King Lear in Will Smith, or a reservoir of misanthropy within Steven Spielberg, which makes them both ill-suited to the project. Tarantino and Kurt Russell, perhaps. But not this.

It’s also a rare for an American film to follow through on a disturbing conclusion, and perhaps no Hollywood studio film has gone as far down that road as the original Oldboy would take them. Under studio pressure, American films always cop out, which is strange considering just how successful a movie that stomach-punches you in the end always seems to do. The Dark Knight, for instance. Or The Departed. Se7en. Test audiences given a score card immediately after being hit in the gut may wish there were a happier, more uplifting, more optimistic denouement, but real audiences with some time to digest a film appreciate the cinematic sternum blow. And perhaps a guy like Steven Spielberg has enough capital to get it made the way it should be made; the problem is, Steven Spielberg is not the type of director who makes these films — there is nothing on his extensive resume that suggests he’d do right by Chan-wook Park, and we already saw what Protosevich did with I Am Legend, which all but guarantees that he’ll completely rip the fangs out of Oldboy’s original screenplay. I can’t even begin to imagine how Will Smith is going to shoehorn his child into this.

On the surface, there is something comfortably simple in how Oldboy starts out, after the initial scene which has Dae-su Oh (Min-sik Choi) holding a man over a building ledge by his tie. The film then immediately jumps back 15 years — Dae-su Oh is a drunk, chattermouth Korean businessman picked up by the police for being an intoxicated idiot. After he’s bailed out, he goes to a pay phone to call home and then … poof. He disappears. A few days later, Dae-su wakes up confined in a hotel room, where he’s kept for the next 15 years. During that decade and a half, Dae-su’s only company is a television set, which tracks time, and informs him that his wife has been killed and he’s been blamed for the murder, and that his daughter has been put in foster care. Trapped and slowly going mad, Dae-su is not even allowed the indignity of killing himself; whenever he attempts suicide, he’s gassed asleep. He passes the time by tattooing himself, shadow-boxing, and planning a Shawshank type escape.

However, just as he’s about to gain his freedom-by-chopstick, Dae-su is inexplicably released back into the world. Confused and bewildered, he makes it his sole mission in life to find his captor(s) and seek revenge. While attempting to track down his kidnapper, however, he also falls in love with a young sushi chef, Mi-do (Kang Hye-jeong), with whom he vigorously consummates their relationship. His captor, Woo-jin (Ji-tae Yu), as it turns out, is not too difficult to track down — in fact, he makes himself available to Dae-su and offers him a deal: If Dae-su can figure out Woo-jin’s motive in kidnapping Dae-su, then Woo-jin will kill himself. If he fails, then Mi-do will die.

And so the game unfolds over the course of the rest of the film. Dae-su slowly puts the pieces together and, in doing so, falls into Woo-jin’s trap. The biggest clue lies not in why Woo-jin released Dae-su from captivity, but why he held him for so long in the first place. And the reason, which dawns you on about five minutes before it hits Dae-su, is a complete mindfuck, as is the final 20 minutes of the film, which makes a mockery of the first 90 minutes of teeth-pulling violence.

Oldboy is a beautifully shot film, containing violence that has a SoderBrickian lushness to it. Chan wook Park injects a dose of dark humor to make the blood and pain and the achingly sad tragedy a little easier to swallow without throwing your own self over a building. It’s sort of a weird cross between Kill Bill, The Shining, Eternal Sunshine Spotless Mind and Flowers in the Attic, a bloody, messed-up, perverse love odyssey about vengeance. And Dae-su is brilliant, a wild maelstrom stuck in the middle of an otherwise focused film that’s so perfectly plotted it manages to get under your skin; it clings to you like nicotine, and you’re the fiend trying to sniff a high out of your fingers as you work the movie backwards in your head. It’s a visceral, mad mind trip. And it’s not one I’d particularly like to take with Will Smith and Steven Spielberg.

Dustin Rowles is the publisher of Pajiba. He lives with his wife and son in Portland, Maine. He’s wondering if anyone at all understood the headline reference. You can reach him via email, or leave a comment below.









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Comments

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!

I LOVE THIS MOVIE. It is my life.

Now, off to read the review.

Posted by: boo at November 21, 2008 10:23 AM

THANK YOU FOR REVIEWING THIS.

No, I haven't read the review yet, but I love this movie. They screened it in my school in my junior year and I was blown away.

Also, I make a very convincing Dae-su accent.

Posted by: Sofía at November 21, 2008 10:26 AM

Oh horrors! Given Spielberg's penchant to ruin his great films by adding the unnecessary schmaltzy scene at the end (Schindler's "I could have saved more" soliloquy, Ryan's visit back to the graves, etc.), I cannonly imagine how he will destroy this beautiful piece of work.

As for Will Smith fitting his son into this one, the only possibe role would be as Mi-Do and if we are staying with the original conclusion, well.......

Posted by: PaddyDog at November 21, 2008 10:29 AM

WHAT??!?!?!? A remake with WILLMOTHERFUCKINGSMITH??????? Where the FUCK have I BEEN! UNFCUKINGBELIEVABLE!!!! I CAN'T EVEN CURSE RIGHT!!!! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!

Posted by: boo at November 21, 2008 10:30 AM

I did really love this movie. I can only imagine that the American version will end with the Fresh Prince getting his revenge and riding off into the sunset. Fuck him.

Posted by: courtney 2 at November 21, 2008 10:32 AM

Wouldn't it be fantastic if they amazed everyone and stayed completely faithful to the movie, and Will Smith actually pulled the role off? Imagine the shit they would get from all the horribly offended people.

Posted by: Snath at November 21, 2008 10:35 AM

That, of course should be "I can only imagine". The adverb "cannonly" is not appropriate here. Bloody keyboard.

And another thing. If you're too lazy to read a couple of subtitles, then you don't deserve to see excellent non-English language films such as OldBoy. Don't sit around waiting for the English-language re-make and then tell me you've seen the film, because you haven't. Mini-comment diversion: Good re-makes of non-Engoish language films? Yeah, that'll be a short list.

Posted by: PaddyDog at November 21, 2008 10:38 AM

There is one thing that gives me hope for this remake, and that is Will Smith's performance in Six Degrees of Separation, which I thought was wonderful. Granted, that's a 15-year-old movie, and nothing like anything else he's ever played. But I think he proved he can play crazy, and Dae-su has some major crazy to contend with.

It's just a smidgen, but it's still hope.

Posted by: Wednesday at November 21, 2008 10:41 AM

*shakes fist at computer*

FUCK YOU SPIELBERG!!!! I WILL GO BACK IN TIME AND KILL YOUR MOTHER!!!

Posted by: boo at November 21, 2008 10:41 AM

Wait, will Smith's Thetan levels allow him to make a faithful remake? Won't Xenu drop him into a volcano for being so negative?

Posted by: courtney 2 at November 21, 2008 10:44 AM

HA! I love when Boo gets angry, it's so hot.

Nice review Dustin, this movie stayed with me for DAYS after watching. And I agree about the American filmmakers being too chicken shit to stick with the original ending. If they do so I'll eat my...well, I don't have a hat so I'll eat my pajama pants.

Posted by: Julie at November 21, 2008 10:46 AM

My dream team for this remake:

Director: the dude who directed Wanted.
Cast: Anyone but Will Smith. Maybe Phillip Seymour Hoffman, if he gives birth to his baby in time. For Mi-Do... Hmm, how old is Dakota Fanning? Or Ellen Page.

Posted by: Sofía at November 21, 2008 10:47 AM

You know, I've heard of this film but never seen it. I'd really like to now. Especially since I'm one of those people who appreciates that kind of closure-denying, gut-punch ending. Actually, I love that. (Although honestly, I'm pretty sure I can see at least one plot point coming. But I'm just preternaturally smart that way.)

I really wish the American studios wold cease and desist with remaking Asian films. They have such a lyricality to them sometimes that Hollywood just can't touch. I wish they'd stop trying.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at November 21, 2008 10:49 AM

Spielberg neutering and mainstreaming a classic shouldn`t bother anyone here, since the people who will flock to see this (baaa baaaa) are the types who probably wouldn`t enjoy the original anyway. Let them have their one-liners, million-dollar chase scenes and conspicuous absence of nudity ... they wouldn`t care what they were missing even if they knew.

Just think of it as a different movie with the same title, like "Fear."

The only thing that bothers me about this is Will Smith, who in my mind is not an actor in the traditional sense of "someone who plays different roles."

Posted by: dan at November 21, 2008 10:54 AM

Rowles, I disagree with you about young master Smith's ability to play a deep thinking vengeful character. I think Smith has great range as an actor, he will surprise many. I mean we aren't talking about Ashton Kutcher here, Smith has talent.

Posted by: Pookie at November 21, 2008 10:55 AM

Oldboy is an amzing movie and Hollywood will fuck it up , as sure as they will fuck up The Host . Two great movies will be ruined but at least i have my DVDs of the originals to hold while i fall asleep fearing what classic film they will destroy next .

Posted by: Gilp at November 21, 2008 11:02 AM

I agree that Will Smith has talent: his work prior to becoming the Blockbuster King was much more impressive. It's Spielberg's presence on the project that I object to. The man couldn't let a holocuast film end without trying to make us walk out of the cinema feeling a little warm and fuzzy. If you're not willing to let the holocuast end on a depressing note, then all bets are off for other subject matters.

Posted by: PaddyDog at November 21, 2008 11:07 AM

*sobs*

SERIOUSLY, HOW CAN HE DO THIS???

ARG! I WILL DROPKICK YOUR BABIES! I WILL FEED YOU BABY DUMPLINGS MADE OF YOUR OWN BABIES!! I WILL FORCE YOU TO EAT YOUR OWN BABY DUMPLING FECES!!! FECES!!!!!

Posted by: boo at November 21, 2008 11:20 AM

PaddyDog with Speilberg being a Jew and all, when it comes to the Holocaust you should cut him some slack. Subconsciously when a person deals with a tragedy the only way they can find solace is to mentally change the outcome, Speilberg's take on the Holocaust is a classic example of someone trying to heal a deep psychological wound.

Posted by: Pookie at November 21, 2008 11:36 AM

Wait, what?! They are remaking The Host too?!? Gah!

Anyway, love this movie. Has anyone seen the other Vengeance movies from Chan-wook Park? I actually liked Lady Vengeance a little more than Oldboy. It doesn't have the same mindfuck as Oldboy for sure, but I liked the doses of humor thrown in and uh, I also really liked her red eye shadow.

Posted by: superdeluxebabe at November 21, 2008 11:38 AM

I'll heal his psychological wounds...

Posted by: boo at November 21, 2008 11:38 AM

Aww boo, when you get that feeling, you need- sexual healing. Sexual. Healing. Oh, Baby.
*Hears Sofia in the distance*
Nothing to see here, ma'am. Just minding my own business.
*Whistles nonchalantly to the rest of the tune*

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at November 21, 2008 11:51 AM

Wow. I'd rather gargle soupy poop than watch the remake. It's like I said yesterday - too bad there isn't a crazed millionaire who simply adores this film - he could take it upon himself to remake the remake immediately - also starring Will Smith. The two would render each other obsolete and then somebody, somewhere, could sneak the original into theaters while the two dipshittery remakes duke it out in dullsville.

Then, if needed, boo can still travel back in time to brew the 'berg a batch of baby-poop dumplings before kicking his mother in the poontang...

Posted by: Skitz at November 21, 2008 11:53 AM

Wait wait wait...was that Pookie making a thoughtful comment? Someone check Hell, is it snowing?

Posted by: Snath at November 21, 2008 12:02 PM

Go ahead, Optimus... keep pushing me and testing my patience... Maybe some day you'll hear Nine Inch Nails' "Closer" in the distance, and upon closer inspection, realize I'm with BarbadoSlim. In my high heels and baby-oil suit.

Posted by: Sofía at November 21, 2008 12:03 PM

I will shit in your mother's cunt, Spielburg. I will shove all of your children up your ass, Smith.

(Softly hums Sexual Healing...)

Posted by: boo at November 21, 2008 12:12 PM

...and this one over here with his shitting in Spielberg mother's cunt, boo stop being so dramatic.

Posted by: Pookie at November 21, 2008 12:37 PM

Aww baby, you know it's just a joke we share. I'd never leave you, especially not for a luscious... lascivious... Veteran of the Zombie Wars like Boo. It'd never work between us, what with her svelte physique and mastery of the katana. Oh, no my love, that drool is all for you. Just for the thought of you.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at November 21, 2008 12:40 PM

After a long battle, BarbadoSlim and I have agreed on joint custody of Phil. So, let's hear Earth, Wind & Fire's "Love's Holiday", buddy.

C'mere, Optimus. We're slow-dancing to some oldschool goodness.

Posted by: Sofía at November 21, 2008 12:43 PM

"and offers him a deal: If Dae-su can figure out Woo-jin's motive in kidnapping Dae-su, then Woo-jin will kill himself. If he fails, then Mi-do will die."

I read this and the movie was at the top of my Netflix queue 30 seconds later.

Posted by: Coco Bravo at November 21, 2008 2:21 PM

This.movie.was.too.long. It was good at the beginning but then the middle sagged and the end just kept on dragging on and on. I think it has definite potential, but it MUST be shortened and edited. IT was a cool movie, I agree...but there was just too much going on in it for me to pay attention.

Posted by: ph at November 21, 2008 4:38 PM

That's what the Ritalin is for, ph. Or weed.

Posted by: Snath at November 21, 2008 5:01 PM

This movie is waiting for me in my mailbox for when I get home tonight. I must admit though, I watched the 100 spoilers in less than 5 minutes yesterday, and it was on there. I'm still going to watch it.

I thought the remake of La Femme Nikita was pretty good (the movie with Bridget fonda; not the series), but I still prefer the original.

Posted by: MissNev at November 21, 2008 5:24 PM

superdeluxebabe>> Yeah, Lady Vengeance is very cool. I don't like it as much as Oldboy from a narrative standpoint, but the shot composition and production design are outstanding.

Mr. Vengeance, however, left me completely unimpressed. Whereas Oldboy manages to convincingly sell its Wagnerian dramatics, Mr. Vengeance just came off as laughable to me.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at November 21, 2008 6:47 PM

You know some really bad/annoying/one trick actors can do at least one or two decent roles: Will Ferrell, Adam Sandler, Jim Carey.

Maybe...

Who's Mi-do? Beyonce?

Posted by: Melanie at November 21, 2008 9:39 PM

Please... Can we not?
Will Smith? How is there any way we can digest his character as any similar to the one portrayed by Choi Min Sik?

Can Hollywood please stop bastardizing good Korean films?

Posted by: oh god at November 21, 2008 10:22 PM

Korea ought to be glad we even give a fuck about trying to redo some shit that they made already. You must be one of those liberal hate America types? Fucking yellow bastards, with their bad porn movies, they don't even show the pussy.

Posted by: Pookie at November 21, 2008 11:51 PM

I really, REALLY fucking hated how Oldboy turned out in the end. What the fuck, seriously. Great movie until about the last fifteen minutes, and then it, in my mind anyway, it turned to absolute shit. I wish I could go back in time and spoil it for myself so I didn't have to have ever wasted all that time seeing it.

That said, there is absolutely no fucking way Hollywood will do right by the original vision. No way.

Posted by: Mitch Clem at November 22, 2008 12:14 AM

DarthCorleone- Yeah, I decided to watch the trilogy in order, and after Sympathy for Mister Vengeance I almost didn't keep going. Only checking the reviews and seeing that it was ranked much lower than the other two did I decide to continue. It was just too unrelentingly grim and awful for me to enjoy it on its merits. The ending of Oldboy isn't exactly happy, but it's somehow touching. Mister Vengeance didn't have that nuance.

I still haven't watched Lady Vengeance, because my boyfriend refused to watch it with me after sitting through the first two. He did like Oldboy, but apparently you can only watch so much brutal violence.

Posted by: Liz at November 22, 2008 12:46 AM

Though I do love Oldboy. There is still the other end of the Korean spectrum with Ki-duk Kim's work. Animal abuse in some of his films aside Spring Summer Fall Winter and Spring along with the movie 3-Iron could possibly be the most beautiful pair of films I have ever seen. They are both that stunning. Spring for portraying an entire lifetime of a man on a floating temple in the middle of a lake. And 3-Iron for consisting of only about five sentences through the whole thing and somehow managing to have two fully flushed out characters based on interactions and facial movements alone.


All that said... the combination of Spielberg and Will Smith is going to kill any type of tension or sick plot twists that Oldboy has going for it.

Posted by: Lo at November 22, 2008 2:40 PM

" All that said...the combination of Spielberg and Will Smith is going to kill any type of tension or sick plot twist that Oldboy has going for it"

Lo

Lo, just because a girl says no, that doesn't mean you can't still get the pussy. I said all of that to say this; despite your misgivings about Messrs. Smith and Spielberg new direction for Oldboy, I think they have the talent to pull it off.

Posted by: Pookie at November 22, 2008 3:46 PM

First time I saw this film, I was coming off a heavy 'shroom trip. Changed my life.

Now, if I waste $10 on the remake, it'll be with my AA group.

Fucking lame circumstances all around!

Posted by: Adrienne Saia at November 22, 2008 8:22 PM

Yo Adrienne!

Posted by: Pookie at November 22, 2008 8:39 PM

Will Smith can do it. So can Spielberg. However, the reality is, they shouldn't. This role and this directing job should go to a different pair who might actually believe in making a movie that is about some seriously fucked-up shit. Neither one has done anything even remotely close to this level of mind-fuckery, so why the sudden desire at their collective elevated ages to start playing with raw feces?

It doesn't make sense.

Posted by: Neodiogenes at November 27, 2008 1:08 AM

Can anyone imagine the big reveal at the end with a guy like Will Smith?

"Aw! Aw no! Hell no! Aww, no, that's nasty!"

It's going to have all the emotional sense and poise of Ace Ventura chewing gobs of gum.

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