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"The Walking Dead" — "What Lies Ahead": I'm On My Way Down Now, I'd Like To Take You With Me

By TK | Posted Under TV Reviews | Comments (61)



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Season One of “The Walking Dead” was a gripping, emotional, and occasionally terrifying affair. I loved the first season, though after re-watching I realized that the show certainly had room to improve. The characters weren’t always engaging and the writing definitely suffered from its share of stumbles. It’s also clear now that the original graphic novels by Robert Kirkman serve as a setting, a loose framework, but not a guide. The stories in those books are only loosely followed, instead focusing on creating a new narrative with some of the same characters, and some new ones. Frankly, I think it’s an excellent idea. It prevents bitching about story fidelity — either you suck it up and accept these episodes as an alternate version, or you simply move on. But the question that’s driven us in these long months since Season One ended (especially in light of the numerous changes and alarming news items that broke recently) was whether or not they would be able to build upon that universe, to develop those characters more, and to create a more engaging, intelligent show that retained the sense of despair, horror and dread, yet told a story that we could invest ourselves in.

After seeing “What Lies Ahead,” the early answer is, “hell yes.” The first episode of Season Two was pretty much everything I’d hoped for, with only a couple of missteps. Picking up right where we left off — after the explosion that destroys the Center for Disease Control — it dropped us right back into the nerve-wracking story without pause. The gang, still led by former Deputy Rick Grimes (Andrew Lincoln), caravans away in search of greener, zombie-free pastures. The 90 minute season premiere opened with a commercial free 25 minutes that was contained some of the most riveting moments of the show so far. Stopping at a huge highway pileup of dead, abandoned cars, they scavenge for supplies, confident that they’re safe for the moment. And then, we encounter something new — a goddamn herd of zombies, hundreds of them staggering with unknown purpose, and one of the most tense, anxious moments I’ve ever seen on television presents itself.

“What Lies Ahead” built on that sense that they really don’t know or understand what the future holds, that there are all manner of dangers out there that they hadn’t anticipated before. In some ways, the episode showed how they’ve gotten much smarter at dealing with the menace — hiding instead of fighting, rooftop sentries, and focusing more on evading or killing silently. That said, I still wanted to knock the shrill, frantic Carol on her ass for her constant whining. I know that every group is going to have one of those, and perhaps it’s a testament to Melissa McBride for playing the part so perfectly, but she seems like the only one devoid of any rational sense of survival instinct. Though to be fair, there were still way too many moments when I wanted to yell at someone for doing something completely stupid — too much stumbling, too much babbling as they try to quietly walk through the woods, and really T-Dog? He deserves to die for that stupidity.

At the same time, the rest of the cast has grown tremendously. Laurie Holden’s Andrea developed into a jagged-edged, nihilistic woman who doesn’t even want to be alive, let alone continuing to go along with the group. This fracturing continues as John Bernthal’s Shane realizes that he can’t continue to live the lie to his friend’s face, and teeters precariously between coward and hero, bastard and savior. Dale (Jeffrey DeMunn) was excellent in Season One and continued to impress, a surprisingly optimistic coot who doesn’t understand those who choose to give up — the confrontation between him and Andrea was one of the show’s highlights. My favorite character continues to be Norman Reedus’s Daryl, a pragmatic, no-bullshit character who seems to be slowly evolving into the group’s secondary leader.

The zombie effects are still phenomenal, with them still having that sense of purposeless despair as they shamble hopelessly in search of the flesh of their living brethren. It’s painful to watch them sometimes, as the showrunners have infused them with the barest hint of humanity — just enough to both revile and pity them. As their tattered, rotting bodies limp and drag (and sometimes run, oddly) themselves through that graveyard of cars, they were simultaneously fascinating and frightening. The gut-churning Jaws homage with Daryl and Rick was particularly effective, a revolting scene that, despite its gratuitous gore, made perfect sense. That’s one of the show’s strengths, though — using blood and gore and mayhem with purpose, instead of just to turn stomachs.

Once again, the real stars of the show are the characters and the writing, and in “What Lies Ahead,” both were shining brightly. That sense of grimness and the fear of loss was pervasive, and the understanding that the weak ones, their children, and the ties that bind them all together are weaknesses as much as they’re strengths. The entire mission is derailed because of a child, leading to them questioning themselves, each other, and God itself. Faith seems to be playing a larger role, which I believe should be a critical component of shows like this. How does one maintain their faith in God, in family, in love and friendship, when you’re surrounded by death and when Hell itself seems to have found its way to Earth?

Of course, it wouldn’t be “The Walking Dead” without a cliffhanger of an ending, and this one was a motherfucker. I didn’t see it coming, and the fact that it was right before one of the show’s few moments of tenderness and beauty made it all the more perfect — or perfectly awful, if you prefer. Once again, the world of “The Walking Dead” is back, and once again, it’s a harsh, terrible, brutal world without mercy or conscience. As it should be.









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Comments

Agreed. With the exception of the endless commercial breaks after the first 25 minutes, it was a great season opener. Highlights:

We were told in season one that the Dead retain some memory of home and who they used to be so it was fitting that we saw three of them sitting in the Baptist chapel.

I was really pleased they opened right after the end of the last season because nothing is more annoying than finding a group somewhere completely different and wondering how they got there so easily.

Rick's slight hesitation before he bashes the rock onto the second zombie's head when the zombie is already down. Nice recognition of the effort and the act.

One question: we've now seen multiple examples of the group coming into contact with zombie blood through spatters that would easily enter the mouth and nose which means it can't be blood borne, so this must be a disease transmitted through saliva (like rabies), right? Is this addressed in the books?

Posted by: PaddyDog at October 18, 2011 12:20 PM

Sorry, these characters are just too stupid to live. Whining about the morality of scavenaging at the car pile up; aterial blood spurting that can be fixed with a small bandage; a bizarre pitch for gun control as only the police are trained enough to be trusted with guns; soap-opera dialogue that I fast-forwarded through. When Rick urged his son to go pet the pretty deer, which in real life could result in serious injury, I gave up. I'm rooting for the zombies now. Maybe Rick can lead us to some better protagonists.

Posted by: Spudboy at October 18, 2011 12:26 PM

The commercial breaks were out of control. They really did make up for those first 25 minutes. I guess AMC has to figure out how to pay for "Mad Men" somehow.

I enjoyed the episode. The herd scene was very tense.

I thought there was a good mix of zombie action and character moments.

I heard some people complain that the episde didn't move the "plot" forward enough. So then I was thinking about the idea of "plot movement" in this series. The plot is pretty much how these characters react to and survive a zombie apocalypse. It's not like "Lost" or any other episodic show where there is some giant over arching plot that the show is moving towards. The whole concept behind the comic, as stated a few times by Kirkman, is the "zombie movie that never ends." It's the trials and tribulations that this group of people face in a zombie apocalypse. Sometimes that will involve a lot of "running in place", missing children, time spent in traffic jams, etc.

There was a lot of setup, which is fine. They are drawing lines within the group, establishing some dynamics based on recent events and the like.

You can't have zombies in every scene all the time or eventually that threat becomes dull. You need to pace it out with the zombie interaction, more often than not, being less than the rest. Between the herd scene, the scene with Rick and the two zombies in the forest and the church scene, I think that was about right for zombie threats.

The show will really have to live and die (no pun intended) with the characters. If you don't like the actors, the characters or the dialogue and are just watching for zombie-killing action then I would imagine the show will disappoint more often than not.

Between reading the comic and the show, I feel pretty comfortable and invested in the characters. I am not overly annoyed or disappointed with any of them. Though Carol was a bit whiny, but then again her daughter was missing, so she had some justification.

Both ms and Mrs. Donut love Daryl. We'd pretty much never leave his side.

I think the ideas of Faith work very well here. It really has to come to the forefront of your mind it this type of situation. Things get stripped away very quickly and you're not left with much else.

I am thrilled to have this show back. For whatever reason though, I always feel tense watching that show. I just amped up for some reason. It seems to carry over after the show too, since, more often than not, I will have a zombie dream after watching this. I like zombie dreams. I did have one Sunday night.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at October 18, 2011 12:30 PM

Forbiddendonut:

Me too. I had a very strange apocalyptic dream on Sunday night. No zombies that I remember but definitely some kind of a threat that echoed the tense wait under the cars as the zombie herd passed by.

I wonder if the first herd sighting means that the zombies are going to start organizing? If they have the ability to understand herd behavior, they could become more strategic in their attacks.

Posted by: PaddyDog at October 18, 2011 12:37 PM

In the books, I'm fairly certain the only transmission is through either being bitten or dying. Yep, in the books, if you die, no matter how, you will become a zombie. It seems like they're changing that from the comics (hence the dead non-zombies in the abandoned cars), which is somewhat of a shame as one of the best moments in the series occurs after Rick makes that realization weeks (months?) after something else tragic happens.

I agree that this was an excellent episode of television, and probably the best episode of "The Walking Dead" since the Pilot. I could do without the long character monologues, though. Robert Kirkman simply isn't very good at dialogue, period, so shoving a hundred words into a single character's mouth is far, far beyond his talents.

Other than that, a rock-solid, and a much more confident (and confidence building), episode that seems to indicate the new writers know what they're doing. I hope Andrea and Shane find a way to part from the group for at least a small chunk of the season; they seem to have great chemistry together (not necessarily sexual, the actors just play off each other very well). That's a difference from the comic that I would welcome with open arms.

These reviews are gonna be the highlight of my Tuesdays. Cheers, TK!

Posted by: RobP at October 18, 2011 12:38 PM

I saw the end scene coming from a mile away. I knew the kid was a potential redshirt the first time his mother let him carry a weapon. He did have the most tense scene of the night, in my opinion, as I was certain he was going to lean into the horn while trying to get the tools.

I don't think there was any covert case made for gun control. The whole thing was merely a subterfuge for keeping a gun out of the hands of I'm-Ready-To-Die-Now-Andrea, who pissed me off the most in this episode. So go off yourself if you're so bitter. You had time before you let Shane take your gun apart. They aren't shy about showing gruesome violence here but it only makes sense to keep the zombie-whacking fairly silent when you're outnumbered a trillion to a dozen.

Posted by: Wednesday at October 18, 2011 12:42 PM

RobP:

Thanks. That makes sense. I couldn't understand how the writer could say it was zombie movie that never ends because like every other epidemic it would have to burn out eventually.
It looks as if the show then has gone for saliva-borne transmission only which would allow for an eventual burn out. Although depending on how much time has elapsed (I think only about four weeks in the show) there could still be corpse rejuvenation into zombies but I don't see how that could happen without airborne transmission which would have had to have been encountered before dying so the immune system could process the virus and react: it couldn't happen after death. Also airborne would affect the people who are still alive. Am I over-thinking this?

Posted by: PaddyDog at October 18, 2011 12:44 PM

I'm trying to distance myself from the source material so I can actually enjoy the series...it's not really working.

For example? The cliffhanger ending.

Fuck that noise.

I was expecting something that should have happened the first season and didn't get it. Instead I was greeted with something that happens later in the series.

Posted by: DeistBrawler at October 18, 2011 12:45 PM

Sorry, these characters are just too stupid to live. Whining about the morality of scavenaging at the car pile up; aterial blood spurting that can be fixed with a small bandage; a bizarre pitch for gun control as only the police are trained enough to be trusted with guns; soap-opera dialogue that I fast-forwarded through. When Rick urged his son to go pet the pretty deer, which in real life could result in serious injury, I gave up. I'm rooting for the zombies now. Maybe Rick can lead us to some better protagonists.

Posted by: Spudboy at October 18, 2011 12:26 PM

I don't think it's too crazy to feel a little creeped out, depressed, wrong or what not about scavenging off people who died tragically. It's not like they didn't do it, it just felt wrong to them. They are still pretty new at this. They aint The Humungus and his crew quite yet.

The aterial blood spray cut did seem quite severe...

The gun control thing made perfect sense. Andrea was furiously trying to put that gun together. If she had put it together or had a fully assembled gun she would have shot that zombie and brought the whole herd down on the RV. That, I believe, was why the gun control issue was raised. Makes sense, no?

I don't mind the dialogue all that much.

I had no issue at all about Rick urging his son to approach the deer. They are in a shitty, shitty world. Zombieland Rule #32: "Enjoy The Little Things".

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at October 18, 2011 12:47 PM

I have a love hate relationship with the Walking Dead, I really enjoy the show as a whole, but I agree the dialogue is sometimes a little goofy, and some of the characters annoy the living hell out of me. The suspense and anticipation of what will happen next definitely gets my heart racing. The bad thing is it is freaking SUNDAY NIGHT and I have to go to work on Monday! So yes, the hate part is mostly that if I watch the Walking Dead on Sunday I cannot fall asleep unless I am heavily sedated. So thank the great Godtopus for DVR, so I can watch it, fast forwarding through the commercials, when I get home from work on Monday, and have something to look forward to on the most hated day of the week.

Posted by: MRod at October 18, 2011 12:48 PM

The commercial breaks were out of control.

Oh, thank God it wasn't just me being frustrated by that. It was fucking ridiculous. I wanted to throw a coffee table at my goddamn TV.

Posted by: TK at October 18, 2011 12:53 PM

The transmission in the books appears to be bite-based, BUT! there are implications that some people come back without any obvious zombie contact at all.

Posted by: Jefferson Robbins at October 18, 2011 12:55 PM

For the most part, I loved it. Luckily, I DVR'd it, so I was able to skip those commercials, but man... I can't imagine having to watch it live- how jarring that must be.

Another thing that I skipped, I'm ashamed to admit, were the long, drawn out scenes in the church with Hysterical Emotional Mother and later, Desperate Hero. Overwrought and way too long. I had to skip forward like 5 or 6 times, yo.

Posted by: logar at October 18, 2011 12:56 PM

@Forbiddendonut:

+1 for the Humungus reference.

If only we could get a Mad Max vs. Zombies film made, there would never be a reason to see any other film ever again.

Posted by: Anderbot at October 18, 2011 12:59 PM

I was expecting something that should have happened the first season and didn't get it. Instead I was greeted with something that happens later in the series.

I have a feeling that whole situation is going to play out differently than in the books, DeistBrawler. For one, they had a pretty good chance to do it in the penultimate episode of season one (I believe) and failed there, too. I don't mind the moving up of the gunshot, either. But that may just be that I've been able to divorce myself from the books after re-watching season one. As long as what's done works and makes sense, anyway. I thought the premier did, whereas many parts of season one definitely did not.

Posted by: RobP at October 18, 2011 1:00 PM

The opening scene with Rick and his walkie-talkie was a bit cheesy, ya think? His voice seemed forced and the dialogue was weird.

I was pretty disappointed overall with the episode..things were really slow going I thought and the characters are becoming more and more unlikeable..but I guess Breaking Bad is a hard act to follow.

So...we shall see...

Posted by: Danielle at October 18, 2011 1:01 PM

"My favorite character continues to be Norman Reedus’s Daryl"
Absolutely completely agree. I love Dale too, but it's this guy I look forward to. He was also the first one to grasp the concept of "Silence" in fighting the zombs. As with most shows though, it's the leads who I find the least compelling. Rick's ok, but I can't get past John Bernthal’s earlobes. You could hide a ham in there.

As for where the zombies were going, that's easy: Wall Street.
(Sorry, too easy a shot not to take. We had a Zombie March the same day we had an Occupy spin off here. I thought the correlation was interesting.)

Posted by: Odnon. at October 18, 2011 1:02 PM

As for any tension between the series and the source material, I am not bothered with it. I love the comics. Been reading them since they came out and continue to do so. It's some great stuff. That said, I am not a fan of everything Kirkman's done in them, just like I am not a fan of everything that's been done in the show.

Given my comment above about how the "plot" in such a series works, either comic or TV, it's the perfect type of series to deviate from the source material at times. You cut certain things out, shift things around a bit, add some new characters, remove some others. It's more about being true to the feel and themes of the series than being true to what exactly goes on in the pages, and I think they have, more often than not, succeeded.

This isn't "A Game Of Thrones" in which the plot is very intricate and all sorts of characters and details really matter.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at October 18, 2011 1:09 PM

The 90 minute season premiere opened with a commercial free 25 minutes

To continuing beating an undead horse, I think we ended up with just over 60 minutes of actual show.

The insistence on sticking with the RV for storage/transport reasons despite it continuing to go through radiator hoses and leave them stranded in unsafe places? How many viable larger vehicles (i.e. the water truck) are they going to pass up in order to keep driving that hooptie?

Posted by: Lang at October 18, 2011 1:12 PM

I loved the first half hour of the show...then all the commercials ruined it. You just can't have that kind of constant burn for a half an hour and then destroy that pacing with a commercial break every five minutes. I think that was why I didn't enjoy the second half at all. Perhaps if I go back and watch it on my DVR I'll enjoy it more.

I've some to grips with the deviation from the source material. I hated the whole CDC story arc because it was so far off from the books, but I think it served a great purpose in totally severing the two for me.

Posted by: admin at October 18, 2011 1:27 PM

Can't help it: it's really hard to like stupid people, both on TV and in reality. If my 12 year old is chastising them constantly about the mistakes they are making they are TOO DUMB.
Andrea, kill yourself. Please.
Carol, STFU. Go find your own fucking brat in fact,
PARENTS: it's the zombie apocalypse. "Stay where we can see you" is not gonna fly.
Go pet the pretty deer? Really? The only thing surprising there was that it was not the deer that got the kid. Or a zombie.

Great, great effects though. Worth returning based on that alone.

Posted by: jp at October 18, 2011 1:27 PM

This show is fine. I like it well enough, and I'll certainly keep watching it. But it's not even in my top 10 things on tv right now and I do. not. understand. all of the love it gets.

The effects are good, the atmosphere is good, and it's got a lot of interesting places it could go. But somehow, seven episodes in, I'm still thinking "well, this has potential." And I think the reason for that is that the characters and the writing -- which I can't believe this review highlighted as the strengths of this show -- are abysmal. There are two or three secondary characters who are interesting but who have been drawn in very broad strokes. Andrea is sad about her sister and wants to die. Daryl has become a team player and is probably the most competent of the bunch. And Dale has been far and away the best developed, and I did like his trick with the RV this week.

But the rest? Shane and the wife grate on me, the kids exist solely to do stupid and dangerous things (and for some reason, their parents let them), the black dude and the Asian dude are basically set dressing (though to its credit, the show hasn't killed either of them off yet, which puts it ahead of Falling Skies and Terra Nova), and Rick is just not compelling to me in the least.

I mean, this show has had nine months to put together an obviously highly anticipated opener to its second season, and it starts with an intensely melodramatic and cliched monologue (including an emotional pause straight out of the Joey Tribiani school of soap opera acting) into a walkie talkie in perhaps the most inauthentic Southern accent since Nicholas Cage in Con-Air?

And while this is perhaps just my own lack of commitment to the zombie genre, I already find the attacks kind of tedious. They shuffle and moan; the characters hide and look anxious; someone inevitably gives away their own position out of stupidity (raise your hand if you didn't know the second she got into the bathroom that Andrea would drop the gun and attract the zombie); someone saves that person; the cycle begins again. Occasionally, the person isn't saved and they end up dead, but if I don't give a shit about their character, it doesn't much matter to me.

Obviously I'm in the minority, though. Feel free to yell at me -- seriously, I would love to be convinced that this show is fantastic.

Posted by: Artemis at October 18, 2011 1:39 PM

Aaaahh, finally. I say that about both the series return and the review. I was chomping at the bit yesterday for this.
I'm not going to hit all the points argued above but I will say that 1. I agree with whoever made the hooptie comment-there was a smorgasbord of vehicles to choose from on that highway-ditch that damn winnebago.
And 2. I am not overly annoyed with any of the characters at this point. Even the kid who ran off-I reminded Pissboy when he was ranting about how dumb she was that she's a kid. I'm a grown adult and if a zombie was coming at me and I was unarmed I'd run, too. We don't know yet what happened to her in the woods and why she didn't return.
3. The ending just about killed me, I was so shocked. Even though I knew something was coming, I never would have guessed it would be that.
That said, I thought it was an excellent episode. My legs shook and my body tensed during the whole thing, save for the commercial breaks, during which I had to pet my dog to relax.
One thing is for sure-I can't go to bed right after that show. I need a good 15 minutes of non-zombie related material to wind down before I close my eyes. I don't know if I dreamed about zombies Sunday night, but I did wake up a few times during the night and when I woke, my first thought was about those GD zombies.

Posted by: Whorish Mouth at October 18, 2011 1:57 PM

They should really think about getting a new lookout. How did Dale not see the giant herd-o-zombies coming until they were right on top of them? Does he have serious cataracts or glaucoma or did he have the caps on the binoculars still?

There was one bonus to all the commercials and that was the preview for Hell on Wheels. Never watch AMC so I hadn't heard of this show.


Posted by: Dingle Berry at October 18, 2011 1:58 PM

Obviously I'm in the minority, though. Feel free to yell at me -- seriously, I would love to be convinced that this show is fantastic.

Posted by: Artemis at October 18, 2011 1:39 PM

It's ok. You're free not to love this show. If it's not your thing, it's not your thing. I am very used to having people not love what I love and I'm pretty much ok with that.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at October 18, 2011 2:00 PM

I don't have a real problem with them hanging onto the RV. People who own RVs often know how to fix them. They know what parts to get and how to put them back together. It seems like Dale is the only guy who has any automotive skills and if he feels like he can fix his RV better than he can fix some random truck that he's never maintained before, it's plausible enough to me. There's a lot to be said for owning a vehicle that isn't controlled by a computer when you're in a zombie apocalypse. None of their other vehicles are state-of-the-art, either. I think I'd want something bare-bones with a carburetor over a fuel-injected system, myself.

Not that there's any shortage of vehicles laying around, but still.

And ITA about the kids. Especially given that those two are only children and they typically get less freedom than families with emergency backup kids.

Posted by: Wednesday at October 18, 2011 2:16 PM

Artemis, you are certainly entitled to your opinion and I won't argue about anything you said except for one thing-I think there's more to the "Andrea wants to die" thing than being sad about her sister. We rewatched the last episode of season 1 and I was reminded of how devestated she was when she realized that it looks like the whole world is gone, and there's nothing left. She kept repeating it.
I think her sister dying was when the cracks started to show, and the trip to the CDC is what did her in. She doesn't want to live in this new world where she feels there's no hope. Add that to the grief and I think she made a pretty compelling argument to off herself.
Personally I think the thing that makes some of these characters so annoying to some folks is the fact that they have flaws, they do stupid things, and they can be irritating, just like most people in real life.

Posted by: Whorish Mouth at October 18, 2011 2:22 PM

How is that kid going to survive what happened to him? I can't to see how the show deals with it.

Posted by: John W at October 18, 2011 2:22 PM

The first series was given a free pass. The first episode of this season is also going to be given a free pass from the looks of it. It's the only type of show that exists in its genre. On top of which is adapted from a very popular comic. Combine those two things and an adequate show like this is blown into an amazing once in a life time series. When really, it's competent at best.

Even when they were all going towards something in the first season it was still mostly them just hanging out. The first episode to this season was no different. No problem with having a series be about stand alone episodes. Having them wander, and the constant just being them survive or something or other. The problem is they want to make this an episodic series while still having a continuing story arc which doesn't work. It's like the studio heads of Scifi that told MST3K they wanted their episodes to have a continuing story arc, even though that clearly wasn't the point. I feel this series could be amazing if they decided what they wanted to be. If it's just them surviving in this new world, then have it be that. If it's them finding a haven then so be it.

As it is though, everyone is giving it a free pass because it is the only thing like it that exists. Then again, same people that made Avatar a billion dollars right(as far as audience goes)? So maybe it's best to just roll my eyes, shrug my shoulders, and find a new series on Netflix to obsess over.

Posted by: googergieger at October 18, 2011 2:29 PM

Nice review. I'll enjoy following along with you this season.

I enjoyed the show, but I did find myself quibbling with these characters and their motivations far too much.

1) What is with that dumb RV? Why is it so precious? Does the little kitchen in there make especially tasty waffles or something? Making yourself so dependent on that vehicle when you have a host of other options in this mostly abandoned world is outright ludicrous. If there's one thing this show needs to get absolutely right, it's the verisimilitude of what you need to do in surviving a zombie apocalypse. Hitching yourself to one car ain't it. Don't tell me they're "new" to this. It's very simple common sense.
2) On another odd vehicle choice: what's with the obnoxiously noisy motorcycle? Daryl likes to look cool? Gee, I hope no zombies hear it. I guess at least he has the silent crossbow to kill them when they show up, if that makes any difference. Oh, and apparently Daryl likes to make Sawyer-like quips ("Short Round") now. I guess the quickest way to make a bigot sympathetic is to let him make pop culture references.
3) I agree the scene between Dale and Andrea was strong, but - as someone else says above - if she's so intent on killing herself, then she'll have plenty of opportunities. Granted, she was probably a little aggravated by near-death at the hands of the zombie moments before, which was not how she wanted to go. It's odd that she suddenly expresses this apparent new lease on life at the end, though.
4) Take better care of the kids such that it doesn't strain my suspension of disbelief. Maybe there's not much that can be done differently in that situation, but I thought they were far too casual.
5) Is that walkie talkie just Rick's security blanket, because unless they happen to be listening at that moment, they're not going to get the transmission, right? Check in, sure, but monologues? I guess Rick is a guy who likes to monologue, as evidenced later.
6) As y'all discuss above, how is zombie-ism transmitted? Just biting? Non-salivary transmission of rabies is very rare, but it does happen. It seems to me that rooting around in zombie guts just to find some woodchuck remains is a little excessive in terms of risk. (And I'm not sure how definitively identifiable a severed whatever from the little girl would have been in its innards regardless. Do the zombies have a normally functioning digestive system that operates at the same pace as ours?) I certainly wouldn't do it, but maybe that's just me. I do realize they safely caked themselves in the guts last season.
7) Whoever shot the kid and the deer at the end...have they not learned the "be quiet" mantra around the zombies yet? Odd that they have survived that long if so. Maybe they're just lucky. Maybe they have a zombie radar. We'll see.

That all said, I did think the opening herd scene was effectively tense, and I'm liking the show enough to stick with it. Where were the zombies, blood, and guts on non-premium cable when I was a kid?

Posted by: DarthCorleone at October 18, 2011 2:32 PM

No, you're right Whorish Mouth -- I should have been clearer that I think being sad about her sister and wanting to die are two separate (and only somewhat connected) facets of her character. I hope they actually do something with the latter part, because I think it could be incredibly interesting. That's the bit of the show that holds the most promise for me right now.

Posted by: Artemis at October 18, 2011 2:33 PM

DarthCorleone:

You're right about rooting around in the viscera which would bring them into contact with mucosal fluid, but I think Dale at least was wearing gloves.

I think Andrea is experiencing what I experienced once in a very bad job which is that any option to get out of where she is looks good whether that's running away with Shane or offing herself (not that I wanted to off myself, but you know what I mean).

Posted by: PaddyDog at October 18, 2011 2:56 PM

That should read "Daryl" not "Dale"

Posted by: PaddyDog at October 18, 2011 2:56 PM

PaddyDog >> I know, but they were still getting it on their arms. It's not exactly a sterile operating environment either. If that were me, I'd be so paranoid about putting my mouth anywhere near my hands until I got another hot shower and clean change of clothes like they did at the CDC that I'd barely be able to function. And I'm someone who frequently has been known to eat off the floor!

Posted by: DarthCorleone at October 18, 2011 3:09 PM

So much has been said already that I so vehemently agree with that it's hard to inject myself into this miraculous, cojent conversation.

One thing about the show that I am constantly impressed by is that the writers/director haven't forgotten that the zombies used to be people. So often in the zombie genre, the zombies are monsters. They're waves of impulsive, murderous hunger. They're collectively an unstoppable monster. The best zombie movies remind you somehow that the dead used to be people.

In the first season there was a strong moment where Rick pulls the wallet out of dead guy's pocket and reads his name to everyone. They humanize the zombie; they remind you that the villain of the story isn't "them," it's "us." It's such an important theme in zombie movies (and now TV shows) and I hate to see it forgotten or shoved aside. It isn't the monster we're fighting, it's each other. It's why the true villain of any great zombie movie isn't the zombie, it's the conflict between living people.

They managed to insert another of these human elements. When they enter the church there are three zombies already inside. They weren't gathered around a corpse pulling out it's intestines for some kind of shocking violence. They weren't laying on the ground, slowely awakened by new stimulus in some inept attempt at creating an eerie vibe. They were sitting in the pews. Praying maybe? Following the habits of their forgotten lives? There isn't any indication that they died in those seats, so are we led to believe that they wandered in and took a seat for some reason?

It's not explained and it's not important. But it is a skilled reminder that these aren't just monsters. They used to be people. People just like those who are struggling to survive.

Posted by: superasente at October 18, 2011 3:45 PM

DarthCorleone says something up there very interesting. Yes, Andrea says she wants to die. But faced with death she fights hard to live. Yeah, I know she wanted to die on her own terms and not to a zombie bite, but I think we're supposed to see in her an inherent desire to live that even she might not see. They're planting those seeds man; it's no accident that the zombie found her and not one of the many other characters that they could've written to stay inside the RV.

Posted by: superasente at October 18, 2011 3:56 PM

Daryl is my favorite part of this show. He's a killing machine and his pragmatism toward every situation is a refreshing contrast to the hysterical or overly emotional reactions of some of the characters. While everyone else is pitching fits and wringing their hands, he's reloading his crossbow and taking axes to doors.

I pretty much want Andrea to die a bloody zombie death. She contributes nothing but negativity and her emotional instability is dangerous to the group.

Also, ditto on the commercial break hate. That shit was bananas.

Posted by: LaRhue at October 18, 2011 4:54 PM

"On another odd vehicle choice: what's with the obnoxiously noisy motorcycle? Daryl likes to look cool? Gee, I hope no zombies hear it."

I see Daryl's motorcycle and Dale's RV as manifestations of the same thing: in times of great stress, people cling to the familiar and comforting, much as Sophia clings to her teddy bear. Daryl's motorcycle is indeed about him being a cool bad-ass, a reminder to himself that he's able to take on any oncoming geeks. Dale's RV is a sort of portable home, comfortable and familiar.

"... perhaps it’s a testament to Melissa McBride for playing the part so perfectly, but she seems like the only one devoid of any rational sense of survival instinct."

But Carol is a formerly battered wife, a type of person notable for passivity and unwillingness to show some initiative for fear of it being beaten out of her. I think the little soliloquy in the church, in which she addresses God and apologizes for letting her husband mistreat her and her daughter, and then the way she accepted Lori's scolding, may signal a turning point for Carol -- a sign that she's about to butch up and stop waiting for someone to rescue her and her child. I sure hope so, anyways, or seeing her every week is going to be a real downer.

And I'm crushing big time on Norman Reedus. I may have to watch Boondock Saints again. Helena Christiansen is one lucky bitch.

Posted by: PDamian at October 18, 2011 6:28 PM

I enjoyed it, but it was not nearly at the level of the season 1 premiere. That said, it was good to have the show back. I still ache all over from being tense the entire time.

Someone in production apparently got a memo that they needed to turn the gore up to 11. Cause that was... gorey.

I could do without ANY more scene of people talking to a Jesus statue, though. That shit was dumb and really took me out of the moment.

Posted by: space oddity at October 18, 2011 7:00 PM

Dear Hollywood waterheaded cretins:
Let me tell you what strains credulity in a zombie show:
The protagonists find a Baptist church, which has a sign in front of it that says "BAPTIST CHURCH," and they go inside, and there's a nearly life-size fucking crucifix with a bleeding plaster Jesus nailed onto it. And then a couple of the characters pray to it.
You had all the little touches so right--the discount stained-glass windows, wood floors, the tacky bells-on-tape wired to a hardware-store timer on the outside of the building--so WTF was with the fucking Catholic crossover? Right-wing moonbats are always accusing you H-wood people of being godless, but I am truly amazed at your ignorance of the basics of American belief systems.
I don't CARE if you're godless, don't get me wrong on that; but I care DEEPLY that you are so fucking clueless and apparently so fucking lazy you wouldn't do the most elementary research on a basic cultural topic.
It took me right out of the moment. It was infuriating.
But before that stupidity crossed my screen, I got so scared at some points that I had to close my eyes.
I'd give the episode an 8.5--but minus 4.2 for the religion cockup. Don't ever be that stupid again.
Love,
Jerce

Posted by: Jerce at October 18, 2011 8:51 PM

I found the use of both children as the foils to all the tension cheap and manipulative. The episode should have been called "fuck the children" cause that's all that happened this episode. There is no possible way that the little dude wasn't visible behind the deer. Really disappointed with this episode and not at all hopeful if this is the way the series starts going post-Darabont.

Posted by: aroorda at October 18, 2011 9:05 PM

It's not like "Lost" or any other episodic show where there is some giant over arching plot that the show is moving towards.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at October 18, 2011 12:30 PM

Let's not open that can of worms again, Forbidden.

Posted by: Uriah Creep at October 18, 2011 9:39 PM

Couple points here.
I'm no ER doc but it seems plausible that passing thru the deer might have dissipated enough energy to be survivable.
@ aroorda: ever look thru a scope at a deer? I'm not saying it's forgivable but shooters get borescoped on their targets every season, hunters wearing international orange die in the woods all too often.
@ Jerce: agreed all around. I kept waiting for somebody to make an "O.Z." reference to Jesus.
@ supera: I disagree that the zeds were "praying" (some primal memory or whatever); I thought a lot more likely that they came in and died in the pew. with no food source in the church, there was no reason for them to move.

Posted by: midas89(heavy) at October 18, 2011 10:15 PM

I really love this show. I am the first to admit that one of my biggest faults is seeing the world in black and white. It either is or it isn't. This show pulls me out of that somewhat. After every episode I find myself discussing it with my husband, who sees almost nothing but grey area. It brings me to an understanding that no other show does. I can see and understand *usually* how they might be of two minds about the things they face. I like the workout it gives my mind. This season opener was good for over an hour of discussion. Actually, we are still chewing over a few of the things that went on. To me, that's pretty good in this age of disposable television.

Posted by: tipsywoozy at October 18, 2011 11:12 PM

I want to say it's a joke, but I doubt it wasn't even meant to be funny.

Posted by: googergieger at October 18, 2011 11:27 PM

gooergieger? Are you talking about my post?

Posted by: tipsywoozy at October 18, 2011 11:57 PM

No I'm talking about Jack and Jill, the new Adam Sandler "movie".

Posted by: googergieger at October 19, 2011 12:05 AM

Listen, asshole, you have your opinion, I have mine. If you have a problem with what I posted, instead of some cryptic, snarky comment, why don't you point out what you obviously have a problem with so I can at least explain it. Is it the use of "chewing over"? Yes, it was intentional. The fact that I called television disposable? What? An actual conversation could be started here, or you can just continue being a tool.

Posted by: tipsywoozy at October 19, 2011 12:13 AM

I'd like this show more if they really established the zombie world rules (ie: saliva vs. blood transmission; "don't get it in your eyes" vs. rooting around in the guts of the zombie; sound attracts zombies, but there was only 3 or 4? at the church with the loud bells) and if the characters would stop being so frigging stupid all the time. They're basically at war, and have been for quite a while, and they seem like they've barely recognized the level of danger they're in. Sheesh. If I was escorting a kid in a zombie holocaust, you bet your ass I'd be more careful than these people are. And when I saw the deer, I thought "meat for starving people" not "oh let's pet the adorable wildlife".

And Laurie: "Shane, honey, about that time you tried to rape me because you're a twisted, warped fuck...I'm cool with it now. Friends??"

That being said, there's still some great moments and tons of potential. Show, get it together! Perhaps the lack of a cohesive writing staff is the problem (I've heard they farm out the scripts...they need a zombie bible and experienced writers who can create character arcs, if you ask me).

Posted by: lurkette at October 19, 2011 12:26 AM

I guess my way of looking at the whole "why are people acting so stupid" thing is... from what I can tell, it's been like, what... a few MONTHS, maybe, since the outbreak? Less than a year, most definitely. That's not a lot of time for people to turn into hardened survivalists. Remember, the average person really DOESN'T know what to do in this kind of situation. The average person hasn't watched a bunch of zombie shows and read the Max Brooks novels and seen all the Romero movies.

The average person is going to be confused and terrified and that's why most of them don't survive.

Posted by: Ghisent at October 19, 2011 12:31 AM

I didn't realize someone could be that big a fan of Jack and Jill.

Anyways, I originally typed up a storm in reply to your angry post but it came off pretty dickish. I'll just say it's hard to bring out a discussion from your post. It basically said, "This show makes me talk about it". Which made me scoff. Whole lot of typing to say a whole lot of nothing after all. At least when I have nothing to say I keep it short.

"Meh"
"Naaaa"
"Woozle Wazzle"

Posted by: googergieger at October 19, 2011 1:57 AM

Okay, that girl was 12. TWELVE. Which means that she was in 6th or maybe even 7th grade (before the zombie apocalypse). First of all, why did she run around with a doll/stuffed animal with her at all times? She's a preteen, not a toddler.

Also, no 12 year old is stupid enough to not have at least stayed and waited for Rick for a decent amount of time. Honestly, that character is just wrong. I remember being 12 and I didn't know anyone THAT stupid.

And them blaming Rick is ridiculous. What, was he supposed to have the 70 pound "12 year old" girl fight the walkers with him? He saved her life and she was too stupid to follow a simple direction. They should blame her parents for letting her get to the age of 12 with the decision-making skills of an 8 year old.

This drove me crazy.

Posted by: intheyear2000 at October 19, 2011 2:14 AM

intheyear2000, I totally get what you're saying, but I disagree. At 12 she's still a kid. Some kids at 12 are acting older but not all of them.
And her mother described her to Lori as "fearful", probably because she grew up being a victim of domestic violence and possibly sexual abuse (I got that from Carol's reference to how her husband had started looking at her, I can't remember exactly what she said). Clinging to a teddy bear is probably her way of clinging to some sense of normalcy and comfort.
I do agree that blaming Rick was ridiculous,and I love how Lori brought up how he didn't hesitate to go after her, when no one else did. I think placing blame, though, is just indicative of a group who is emotionally spent and at the end of their collective rope.

Posted by: Whorish Mouth at October 19, 2011 7:54 AM

Is that walkie talkie just Rick's security blanket, because unless they happen to be listening at that moment, they're not going to get the transmission, right? Check in, sure, but monologues? I guess Rick is a guy who likes to monologue, as evidenced later.

If you'll remember waaaaaay back to the first episode where the father and son that saved him and Rick parted ways, they agreed to turn their radios on every morning to try and contact each other.

Posted by: admin at October 19, 2011 10:19 AM

googergieger:

Every post I've seen by you comes off as dickish, so you should have just posted your original rant. I didn't realize there was a rule about posting to your standards. I was merely praising the show for making me think, very few shows these days do that. I've seen many posts saying something similar, yet you didn't get snarky with them. Instead of keeping it short, maybe you should just keep it to yourself. "Meh" is something the world could do without.

Posted by: tipsywoozy at October 19, 2011 10:57 AM

@Whorish Mouth

Thanks for the different perspective! It definitely makes a lot more sense when you put it that way. I never really think rationally about character when I'm watching zombie/vampire/horror etc. movies, I just automatically freak out at anyone that isn't in survival mode 100% of the time or who makes a bad decision. The Walking Dead has much stronger characters than most of the genre that I've seen, so I'll just have to keep that in mind.

And comparing her to me at 12 probably isn't fair b/c zombies weren't taking over the world when I was 12. Haha, and not every kid can handle the zombie apocalypse!

Posted by: intheyear2000 at October 19, 2011 12:05 PM

Pretty sure I can't, and I'm an adult. ;) Thankfully I know a lot of zombie enthusiasts that will hopefully save my scared ass. Either that or throw me to the zombies as they make their escape.
Assholes.

Posted by: Whorish Mouth at October 19, 2011 1:03 PM

Again, I could type up a storm but lets leave this comments part of things to discuss Walking Dead. Which I did with my original post and you didn't.

Ma'am.

Posted by: googergieger at October 19, 2011 2:01 PM

I swear I read somewhere that we were going to find out in this episode what the CDC doc whispered to Rick. I kept waiting for it. Maybe it was just that it would happen during this season. Or I could be imagining things. Did anyone else read that anywhere?

Posted by: Brooke at October 19, 2011 2:20 PM

I'm in the minority I guess because I thought that episode blew dogs for quarters. Last season they made a big deal about having to cover yourself in zombie guts/gore to "mask your scent" but now you can just hang out under a damn car and be perfectly fine. Even when gushing blood from a major wound!

And let's spend the next HOUR rambling through the forest looking for a kid. And then pray to Jesus a whole bunch in a church. Thrilling.

I'll just have to clutch at the comics desperately. The tension was always believable, characters weren't dumb as FUCK (Lori, really? You don't want to get food/clothes/water/supplies because, "it's a graveyard"?! The whole WORLD is a graveyard, dumbass.) Also, taking away Andrea's gun was so outlandishly retarded. Carl does something very important for the story that it's absurd they had him shot at the end of this episode. The only reason you even give a shit about this kid getting shot in the comics is because he makes a crazy hard decision that saves lives, one that they're DRAGGING out.

Posted by: Alexa at October 23, 2011 8:46 PM

I hate Daryl so much. I hate his eyebrows. I hate his face. I hate his meaningful looks and his wild eyes. Oh, I just hate him. And I also hate Andrea.

Posted by: effdaryl at October 25, 2011 10:19 AM