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"The Walking Dead" - "Secrets": She, She Wanted To Be A Secret Girl

By TK | Posted Under TV Reviews | Comments (77)



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So, to recap: They still haven’t found Sophia, they still haven’t done anything about the zombies in the barn, they’re still on the farm, Shane’s still a dick, Rick’s still a tortured anxiety case, and I’m still one frustrated sonofabitch.

When looked at with those scenarios in mind, not much happened (again) in “Secrets,” the sixth episode of season two of “The Walking Dead.” And on the surface, that’s not an untrue statement. This was yet another mixed episode, with some good parts and some bad parts, but ultimately it continued the sense of intractable stasis that’s been plaguing every episode since the season premiere. The theme was, as the title suggests, secrets, and at last some of the secrets that have been festering beneath the surface have found their way to the open air. Mainly, this was due to Glenn, who is apparently — in addition to being a sweet, earnest young man who’s fast on his feet — a giant goddamn blabbermouth (admittedly so, at least).

The problem is that while there was some dramatic resonance with the way in which these secrets were revealed, there was little or no consequence to those revelations. Rick learned about Lori’s pregnancy, and after a five minute fight, they’re done. Added to the discovery that he’s known about her and Shane all along, it’s a staggeringly subdued response from the fearless leader, and one that rang hollow. The initial dust-up between them felt like it had some emotional meat on its bones, but ultimately it simply descended into “well, I knew all along and I’m cool with it” which just didn’t generate any kind of impact.

Similarly, the revelation about the zombies in the barn — knowledge only shared by a handful, albeit — wasn’t nearly the source of shock I’d anticipated. Most people correctly assumed it was Hershel’s family in there, and his calm yet impassioned demeanor while defending his actions to Dale was actually quite nicely executed. That said, were I Dale, I can only assume that I’d head back to camp and say, “that crazy motherfucker’s got a barn fulla zombies — I think it’s time to pack our shit, kids.”

Surprisingly, the episode’s highlights were the scenes between Andrea and Shane. While the abrupt sex scene in the car seemed inauthentic and honestly, kind of stupid, the buildup to that point had a surprising amount of nuance to it. Their antagonistic training scene and the frantic shooting sequence in the street were the only real sources of tension in the episode, and it was the first episode so far this season where I began to like Andrea again. I like that she’s becoming more assertive and that her character is moving in new directions — they may not be the most palatable of directions, but at least she’s developing, something that can’t be said of the majority of the other cast members.

That does bring up an interesting discussion point, which is the handling of women in general in the show. It’s worth noting that last week, reader/commenter Artemis sharply noted this, and her comment in last week’s review is a very good read. Part of the reason that “The Walking Dead” is floundering is because its characters aren’t really developing, but instead simply making minor tonal shifts which, over an extended period that has little movement, has little effect other than to exacerbate their existing traits. Unfortunately, in the case of the women in the show, those effects are casting increasingly negative light on their characters. Lori was a sharp-eyed, strongwilled defender of her family in season one, but when stuck in the mud the way her character has been, the focus has instead been on the shriller aspects of her nature, something that was even stated outright in this episode (her being the bad guy when it came to answering Carl’s request). Carol is simply becoming a shell of a character, whose entire existence is predicated on crying about her daughter (understandably), and then shrinking into the background to softly whimper and fold laundry. Jacqui was given the shortest shrift, being the one who simply gave up and succumbed to death at the end of season one.

That’s why I viewed this episode as a success as far as Andrea and Maggie are concerned — their characters felt like they were actually showing some kind of movement, instead of continuing to be stuck in the same emotional and psychological mud that’s been paralyzing so many of the other characters. While not everyone may find Andrea’s new character arc satisfying, she’s taking action — better yet, she’s joining the action.It’s the reason that Daryl and Glenn continue to be the best parts of the show — their characters do things other than argue and complain, and which is also why watching the rockily evolving relationship between Glenn and Maggie was one of the show’s highpoints (as well as seeing Glenn go to town on the zombie in the pharmacy). That’s what the show needs to do throughout, but it’s becoming more aggravating when it comes to the female characters who are serving as little other than foils for the menfolk’s actions (and that’s not even beginning to discuss the painfully ignorant — if not irresponsible — depiction of how the morning after pill works. Sheesh).

“Secrets” was another exercise in frustration, and my patience is wearing thin. It’s bad enough that the show feels like it’s trapped in amber, but it’s actually finding new ways to work on my nerves each week. It once again didn’t have nearly enough zombie-related mayhem, made all the more annoying by the lack of character development. It’s not enough to simply expose peoples’ secrets — there has to be some real, honest sense of consequence to it and that simply didn’t happen. It was “SECRET REVEALED! DUN DUN DUNNNN!! AND NOW… we fold some more laundry or whine some more!” A bit of an oversimplification? Perhaps. But if a show’s pace is going to be as glacial as “The Walking Dead” is right now, there should at least be the sense that there are consequences for actions, and there should be a greater degree of emotional and character development. That’s happening in fits and starts, in minuscule hiccups, and I’m wondering how much more I can take.

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Comments

I get the feeling that this show only attempts to be great during it's season premieres, to draw you in. Then when it has you, it slows down and rides the brakes.

Posted by: Pat at November 22, 2011 12:17 PM

After we watched this week my wife said "I don't care what happens to any of these people." and she's exactly right. Of the people I know that loved season 1, they are about ready to bail on the show. And I'm right there with them.

It's time to be honest, The Walking Dead is not a good show. I'm trying to watch it now as a trashy guilty pleasure, but the show isn't fun enough to work that way.

Bring back Frank!

Posted by: TylerDFC at November 22, 2011 12:25 PM

I disagree with much of the above. While I felt a lot of the criticism of the last episode - which just recycled a bunch of old stuff was quite valid - I felt this episode opened up a whole new batch of conflicts and did move things forward for certain characters.

I think it's a mistake to believe that the conversation between Rick and Lori at the end of the episode is the end of that discussion. I thought the scene was perfect, especially Rick's admission that he knew it all along. I thought that was pretty powerful and very consistent with Rick's character. He's not emotional person. He's also not a stupid person. I think he was trying to lie to himself that what he thought happened between Lori and Shane didn't happen, but once she said it, what's the point of lying to yourself? Lori's complaint about Rick has always been that he's distant and unemotional. His reaction was perfect and entirely consistent with his character. I sersiouly doubt that this is the end of it. It's just the beginning and was perfectly written and very well acted. I loved it.

Overall, this was Lori's best episode by far. I had quite a bit of sympathy for her and felt like her acting, which up until this point has been pretty weak or one note, was fantastic. She's desperately trying to hold onto the past. That "well" she was talking about is how she gets by. That's why she was uneasy with the idea of looting the cars or having her son carry a gun around even though that's the world they now live in. I think it helps explain some of her shrillness. I found her tortured decision about what to do with her baby also to be very well done.

Glenn was great as always. Over the last two episodes he's shown more character and personality than he has in some 70? 80? issues of the comic? I love his guileless and earnest nature.

I was happy to see Andrea start becoming the Sone-Cold Killah everybody has been clamoring for.

I also didn't find Dale's reaction to the zombies in the barn to be all that off. Dale really isn't a hair trigger type of guy. I mean, he's been holding on to that "I saw Shane point his gun at Rick" fact for a long time before he felt like he needed to unleash it.

As for the character development point. You have to remember it's been all of what? 5? 6 days tops since the CDC? How much do people change over the course of 6 days? I think it'd be quite a stretch to think Carol would really start to evolve over a few days in this situation.

I am not at all frustrated by this show. I do agree that there could and probably should be more zombie action. I also think that they need to leave the farm too - it's simply too secure feeling and too removed from the desperation we saw in season 1. And they most definitely need to wrap up the Sophia thing and it has to be satisfactory. What I would consider satisfactory... I don't quite yet know.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at November 22, 2011 12:29 PM

Glenn and Darryl remain a highlight of the show for me. Unfortunately, they don't get nearly enough screen time to keep me from getting bored each episode.

And how anticlimatic was Lori's big confession to Rick about Shane?? Like you said TK, it lacked impact. It was just a shrug from Rick and all's well.

I assume the graphic novels are interesting, but the show is really dragging. They need to get off the farm soon.

Posted by: MelBivDevoe at November 22, 2011 12:30 PM

At least five times per episode, I turn to my boyfriend and say, "I hate this show!" And then the next Sunday, I squeal, "Walking Dead is on tonight!" What is wrong with me?

How can Carol be folding laundry when her daughter is gone? Why is she letting a bunch of jerks half-heartedly look for her daughter? I hope Sophia comes back as a zombie and eats her, and then she gets kept in the barn as a pet zombie. Then she teaches all the barn zombies how dumb they all are and they escape and eat everyone.

Posted by: VK at November 22, 2011 12:30 PM

"and that’s not even beginning to discuss the painfully ignorant — if not irresponsible — depiction of how the morning after pill works."

THANK YOU! My thoughts exactly. I was so angry after this episode. As a health educator we have spent years trying to educate on what it is and what it does and correct the misconceptions behind the morning after pill. TWD and I are now fighting.

Posted by: L at November 22, 2011 12:31 PM

Yes Andrea taking action and joining the action but more importantly she's getting some action!

I'm starting to root for the zombies and wish they'd eat everyone on this show so it will end. It's impossible to watch this show without a DVR. I can get through it in about 10 minutes.

Posted by: Dingle Berry at November 22, 2011 12:34 PM

HAH! I called it. I said last week the barn zombies were kin folk.

Honestly camping at the paradise farm is getting old. Seriously why aren't they being attacked by zombies? The school with the medical supplies is only 5 miles away and it had oodles of zombies. Why aren't those zombies shambling over?

You know what would be a twist? If Herschel told them to go and the group said no were not leaving the zombie free zone old man. What are you gonna do about it? Would they fight each other for the farm?

Posted by: logan at November 22, 2011 12:36 PM

How is it possible that Carl gets shot, treated by a vet and is up and around shooting guns in less time then they can find Sophia? Really? How much time has gone by? It would have to be weeks or even months. How could this little girl survive all of this time? Even worse, why do the writers not ask themselves this question?

Posted by: phlippr at November 22, 2011 12:37 PM

(and that’s not even beginning to discuss the painfully ignorant — if not irresponsible — depiction of how the morning after pill works. Sheesh)

I am pretty sure someone (Glenn? Dale?) mentioned to Lori that he didn't think that those pills would work.

I actually had no problem with this at all. Lori was painfully desperate. She was convinced she didn't want to bring a baby into this world. The girl was grasping at straws. Really really grasping. It isn't like she can go make an appointment at the local abortion clinic. These are desperate times. People will try all sorts of things (e.g., keeping zombies "alive" in a barn and feeding them chickens in hope of finding a cure) to hold on.

THANK YOU! My thoughts exactly. I was so angry after this episode. As a health educator we have spent years trying to educate on what it is and what it does and correct the misconceptions behind the morning after pill.

Maybe you should use that scene in your class as a perfect example of how this pills DO NOT, in fact, work.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at November 22, 2011 12:39 PM

Thanks for the shout out, TK, and more importantly for engaging with the show's issues with women. I haven't seen many non-explicitly feminist reviewers do so, which is a shame because the female characters on this show are both an independent problem and the most obvious example of the show's more general flaws.

I was happy to see a return to season one Andrea this week (though it required everyone ignore the fact that she SHOT DARRYL last week, and maybe the problem is not that she's a bad shot but rather that she's not very responsible when given a gun), and I like what they're doing with Maggie. But the Lori storyline just made me want to hit my head into a wall.

No, the morning after pill DOES NOT CAUSE ABORTIONS. (Though given the amount of misinformation out there, maybe it's realistic that Lori thought it might work.) And more importantly, Rick, you do not get to berate Lori for wanting to end that pregnancy. Her body, her choice.* Particularly in the middle of a zombie apocalypse when being pregnant and caring for an infant will put Lori at significant additional risk of being eaten by a f-ing zombie.

Maybe Rick was entitled to be upset that Lori hadn't told him about the pregnancy, but his anger quickly became more about her attempted abortion than about the secret-keeping. And since there's been so little character development, and because show's writers tend to use Rick as a mouthpiece for whatever their views are, it came across less as a realistic conflict between two people and more as the show engaging in pro-life moralizing.

*I have mixed feelings about Lori's change of heart and apparent decision to keep the baby. Her body, her choice goes both ways, but the show really didn't give us any explanation of why she changed her mind, unless we just assume that because she's in Georgia she's pro-life. It seemed a little out of character for Lori, who has given us two speeches now about not wanting a child to live in the world they're in. And the show didn't really engage with the risks she was taking on if she decides to stay pregnant -- though I assume some of that will come up in later episodes, so I'm reserving judgment on that point for now (though given the shows glacial pace -- we've advanced less than a week since the premiere -- maybe we'll never see Lori more than 3 or 4 months pregnant).

Posted by: Artemis at November 22, 2011 12:41 PM

How is it possible that Carl gets shot, treated by a vet and is up and around shooting guns in less time then they can find Sophia? Really? How much time has gone by?

I think we're at about 4-5 days, tops, since Carl was shot.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at November 22, 2011 12:42 PM

wouldnt all the gun play alert all Walkers in the area, and how much ammo do they have- to waste on target practice?

Posted by: rabbu at November 22, 2011 12:42 PM

I was pretty pissed about the morning after pill plot point, too. My daughter was watching with me, and asked if it would even work that way. It's right there in the name, people. At least I got to clear that up for my kid.

I didn't think the Andrea/Shane sex was coming out of the blue. She'd already asked to leave with him. You could see she was thrilled by the power of taking out zombies. And...she's not exactly famous for impulse control. If we can believe Maggie and Glenn, I can definitely believe Shane and Andrea.

Rick, Lori and Carl continue to be the least interesting characters on this show. Even Sophia at least can be imagined out there struggling to survive.

The scene with Shane and Dale was terrific, though. You could practically see the dark clouds forming behind Shane's face. Darryl gets the kudos (rightly) for being the guy most likely to survive a zombie apocalypse, but Shane's up there as a close second.

Posted by: Wednesday at November 22, 2011 12:42 PM

No, the morning after pill DOES NOT CAUSE ABORTIONS. (Though given the amount of misinformation out there, maybe it's realistic that Lori thought it might work.)

I totally agree with this.

the show engaging in pro-life moralizing.

Less certain about this. I was trying to see if that's where they were going and didn't quite get that sense, but might have to watch it again.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at November 22, 2011 12:45 PM

wouldnt all the gun play alert all Walkers in the area,

Which is why they always drove way out from the farm for gun practice.

and how much ammo do they have- to waste on target practice?

And, yes. They do seem to be wasting a lot of ammo on practice. Then again, if you can't hit anything, what good is all that ammo? You're just a dude with a noisemaker.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at November 22, 2011 12:47 PM

Ugh, this show is getting on my nerves, and it's not just the lack of zombies (AMC screwed with their budget, I get it). I continue to dislike the shifts in tone- from super serious drama about real characters, to slapstick I'm-the-worst-lair-in-history Glen and after-one-headshot-I'm-now-a-marksman Andrea. In the case of the latter, why make every other problem take a season to solve, but all Andrea needs to become a deadly sniper is one zombie kill.

Also, I love the practical special effects on the show. But why in the name of God do they keep throwing in random CG assisted zombies in their. Yeah, a nearly headless nick-zombie is cool, but noticing the CG is jarring, and I would have rather it just been a regular walker.

Posted by: Mike at November 22, 2011 12:48 PM

The emotional release after a firefight can be pretty overpowering. It's not surprising that Andrea, after being an emotional wreck for so long, got fired up after her successful encounter. And damn, nice headshots!

Posted by: dorquemada at November 22, 2011 12:56 PM

Of course I understand Lori not wanting to be pregnant and vulnerable without even a solid roof over her head. But she keeps asking the question why should she bring a baby into that world. Why is no one stating the obvious?: Because the baby is life, and in a world of the undead, the only hope you can have is for new life. Somebody has to have babies, why not her?
Without babies, the human race is done.
Lori may be more concerned with her immediate situation, I get that. I don't get is why Dale or Rick hasn't said something along those lines.

Posted by: Calvinthebold at November 22, 2011 1:04 PM

Ugh, the gender dynamics on this show. I could only laugh at Rick asking Lori why she didn't want to give the baby a chance. Really dude? Did you think about that question before you asked it? Because I think the reasons are fairly obvious.

Posted by: Cree83 at November 22, 2011 1:07 PM

Here are the ratings (Adults 18-49) for the second season of "Walking Dead" by episode:

1. 3.8
2. 3.6
3. 3.1
4. 3.4
5. 3.2
6. 3.1

I think that reflects the general sense here of most people getting tired/frustrated/bored by the show as there has been a slight, but steady decline (save a small bump in episode 4). (Even with the decline, the show is still killer in the ratings for a cable show and, not taking football into account, the third highest rated show on Sundays after "Once Upon a Time" and "The Simpsons".)

I think the real indicator will be the show's rating when it comes back in February. If there is a decline between that episode and next week's episode I think it could be a strong inidcator that the frustration/disineterest is wide spread.

Obviously, as one of the few - at least 'round there here parts - who still really likes the show, I hope that doesn't happen.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at November 22, 2011 1:08 PM

I could only laugh at Rick asking Lori why she didn't want to give the baby a chance. Really dude? Did you think about that question before you asked it? Because I think the reasons are fairly obvious.

Because the baby is life, and in a world of the undead, the only hope you can have is for new life. Somebody has to have babies, why not her?
Without babies, the human race is done.

Like two ships passing in the night...

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at November 22, 2011 1:10 PM

Why is Shane still alive?

Why?

So many of these character conflicts and lack of development would be erased if he was already fucking dead. You can start focusing on the important shit and progress with the goddamn story.

Posted by: DeistBrawler at November 22, 2011 1:10 PM

To Calvin - sure, a baby is life. Unless the complete absence of prenatal care leads to the death of both mother and baby. Or unless they have the baby, and its presence makes the entire group all the more vulnerable to being killed in zombie attack (because they'd move slower with a baby, because it's crying would attract zombies, etc).

Posted by: Cree83 at November 22, 2011 1:15 PM

From ABC's "General Hospital" website: "Sonny and Kate arrive at a special destination; Delores pays the Zacchara family a visit; Olivia prepares a Thanksgiving dinner when Lulu arrives." Add in "Carl struggles to survive" and you have a typical episode from this season's Walking Dead. Maybe the joke is on us, and the true target audience for this show is housewives who actually worry about their laundry not being bright enough.

Posted by: Spudboy at November 22, 2011 1:16 PM

I can't remember a show like this one where I get excited when a new episode is on but but end up flipping channels halfway through to watch the football game because nothing is happening.

Posted by: ehass at November 22, 2011 1:19 PM

Now I understand how you Games of Thrones readers felt when discussing the show. What's a spoiler, what's speculation, and the fine line between them. I know exactly where this is going to go, even as it's veered away from the comics. And it's the only reason I'm still watching.
Apart from the drinking game.
Take a shot every time Dale looks exasperated, or Carol cries, or Lori uses her possum stare.
Full rules are still in the works...

Posted by: dorquemada at November 22, 2011 1:21 PM

Spudboy, Sonny's back with Kate now?! Noooo!

Seriously, I have been eagerly anticipating this write up, and I'm so glad that many of you share my frustrations with both the pacing and the "ladybusiness, how does it work?!" shenanigans. I took to facebook shortly after the episode to announce my breakup w/ Walking Dead, but I still want to comment on the recaps. Ah, such are the harsh dilemmas of my life.

Posted by: Angeleno Ewok at November 22, 2011 1:26 PM

or Lori uses her possum stare.

OK, that cracked me the fuck up.

Posted by: TK at November 22, 2011 1:27 PM

Ha! Possum stare. That's a perfect description of her "are you kidding me?" look.

Posted by: Wednesday at November 22, 2011 1:28 PM

I think Lori would have tried to overdose on any pills Glenn had brought her in hopes of damaging herself enough to miscarry. Her action wasn't one of reason, only panic at the thought of being pregnant in a world where circulation-challenged consumers of non-consenting protein abound.

Posted by: Bob Frapples at November 22, 2011 1:29 PM

This show always leaves me wanting more, but never in the good way.

Posted by: Craigilicious at November 22, 2011 1:35 PM

This may have already been covered as there are a lot of great and thorough comments on this review, but I would like to take the time to address a point Artemis brought up about Rick's reaction being far stronger concerning the abortion and not so much for the Shane/Laurie deal. I would have to think that given the extreme circumstances over what can only be weeks, a switch has flipped in everyone's head concerning what's a big deal and what isn't. Were it just regular, everyday, normal times then yes, the Shane/Laurie hook-up would be a huge deal, even if there were some sort of circumstances to make Laurie believe that Rick was dead. It would probably end their marriage and if a pregnancy was also involved I would have to think that Rick might encourage her to abort the baby on the off-chance that it is Shane's.

But that was before. After waking up in a hospital alone, having no idea if his family is dead or alive or where they might be if it's the latter, finding his family on a one-in-a-million shot, almost losing his son to a severe gun shot wound to have him miraculously pull out of it, it's pretty obvious that to Rick, having his family complete and in his presence is of first and foremost importance to him. All that other bullshit that might have been a big deal before? Fuck it. I can't say that anyone with loved-ones wouldn't have the exact same perspective. In that right, I find his response to Laurie quite believable, especially since he's so emotionally depleted that he better just pick his battles.

That being said, this stunted character development is getting really irritating. I've said it before, but I think if they took the route of Lost, meaning if they introduced an individual's back-story a bit at a time in order to reveal a little more on why that particular character is reacting to the crisis at hand in the manner in which they do, they could get away with the slower action in the background. I love the way they're starting to delve into Daryl's character in that way, but they had better start committing to all of the characters they keep alive in the same way because to be perfectly honest, I cannot wait until Carol becomes zombie food. Also? I can't wait to see Shane lose his collective shit when he finds out Laurie is with child.

Posted by: E the B at November 22, 2011 1:38 PM

I could only laugh at Rick asking Lori why she didn't want to give the baby a chance. Really dude? Did you think about that question before you asked it? Because I think the reasons are fairly obvious.

Besides the obvious lack of maternal health care there is the whole "babies taste like chicken to Zombies" issue.

Because the baby is life, and in a world of the undead, the only hope you can have is for new life. Somebody has to have babies, why not her?
Without babies, the human race is done.

Yea ladies, we get to be incubators for fresh zombie meals.
Baby vs. zombie = dead baby and a well fed zombie.

Posted by: Jules at November 22, 2011 1:41 PM

I'm still liking the show, albeit with reservations. There are definitely some "ugh really you can't be serious" moments, but there are always some fantastic moments too. I am super frustrated by the slow pace, but I really do think that spending all six of these episodes at "the farm" is due to the budget cuts AMC made on the show, and also the "split the second season in half" move. If they wrapped up the time at the farm in 3-4 episodes, then started on to something new, they'd have to come up with a good stopping place within a couple of episodes. I'm sure it was just easier to say, "We'll do the whole first half at the farm." Easy doesn't mean right, though.

Things I thought were fantastic: Shane and Dale. Shane is definitely the most engaging character on the show, for my money. Glenn, with no guile, but still kicking ass on the zombie in the pharmacy. Carl saying "Everything is food for something else".

About Andrea and Shane doin' it, while that was a little abrupt, it reminds me of good old Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and how after a really good night of dusting vamps, she'd be totally horny. I totally bought it.

I had a different read on Rick saying to Lori about Shane, "I know. Of course I know." I think that he didn't *consciously* know until that moment, and he's really saying "Of course I know" to *himself* because he's realizing what the unformed suspicion he had really was. I loved seeing him being truly angry about Lori not telling him about the baby. Yeah, Rick, get angry! And I also don't think it's the end of the discussion, or that the emotions about Lori having been with Shane are not going to come up again, strongly.

Side note: so if Rick really didn't know that Lori was pregnant, we still don't know what the CDC guy whispered to him!

In conclusion, I'm still on board. I only hope that they give us a decent resolution on Sophia, which means: not pussying out. Make her dead, make her a zombie, or have the group move on without her and never know. If it ends "happily", then TWD and I will be fighting. (hat tip L)

Posted by: MM at November 22, 2011 1:44 PM

Make her dead, make her a zombie, or have the group move on without her and never know. If it ends "happily", then TWD and I will be fighting.

I agree. The only way that I could potentially be satisfied with them finding Sophia alive is if she somehow hooked up with another group of people and they took care of her. If they just find her surving on her own and it's a "happy" ending for this laborious plotline... Ugh.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at November 22, 2011 1:54 PM

I know this girl who has a young dog. She let her dog out in the yard one day to go potty, and it immediately bolted for some dark corner of her back-yard. He was rooting around excitedly for a few moments and soon came prancing back with something in it's mouth. My friend was horrified to see that the dog had caught a possum. The dog laid the possum at my friend's feet, and playfully butted at it with it's nose. The possum didn't move. After a moment, the dog got bored and pranced off into the yard to do his business. My friend was horrified. She thought her kind, young dog was secretely a killer. She looked down at the poor, dead possum at her feet, and suddenly it's eyes opened. It didn't move or make a noise, but it opened it's knowing eye at her. At that moment, she thought that she and the possum were sharing a moment. That, in fact, the possum were saying to her, "Say nothing, bitch." The possum shut it's eyes when the dog walked back over, still bored with it's silent prize. My friend took her dog back inside, and as she walked away she realized that the possum wasn't "playing possum." The possum was BEING POSSUM.

Anyway, maybe Lori is just an asshole is what I'm saying. Maybe she's not a poorly written character at all. Maybe she's being possum.

Posted by: superasente at November 22, 2011 2:09 PM

A commenter on the Mary Sue came up with a brilliant suggestion:

Have Michonne appear with Sophia in tow in the next ep.

Posted by: John W at November 22, 2011 2:14 PM

I knew something wasn't sitting right with me about Maggie's total naivete about the zombies. Earlier in the season, when she rides up to the group to get Lori after Carl is shot, she casually rescues Andrea from a zombie by taking it out with a baseball bat. If she thinks they're people and experienced her first real zombie scare in the pharmacy, shouldn't she have had some hesitation in clocking that one in the head? Even if she was willing to kill it because it was attacking Andrea, shouldn't she have felt some remorse after? It's like two entirely different characters named Maggie between that scene and this episode.

Posted by: Artemis at November 22, 2011 2:17 PM

While I was watching this ep. I kept thinking it would be better if Leslie Nielsen was in it.Or perhaps it was done by the Kids in the Hall or MST3000, I was already shouting at the TV anyway. Why not.

Posted by: Dusty Bottoms at November 22, 2011 2:29 PM

Forbiddendonut has said a lot of the same things I was thinking. Look, I get the frustration over the current slow pace. People want to see "ZOMG zombies!" action. It's fun to watch our survivors fight back and try to survive.

But here's the thing...the show isn't REALLY about the zombies, it's about the living. Robert Kirkman, the creator of the comics, once said that the title "The Walking Dead" doesn't refer to the zombies, but rather the survivors, because it's only a matter of time before SOMETHING takes them. Be it disease, injury, "road agents", or the external threat of the actual zombies themselves, something will eventually get each of them. Yes, I too would like to see a few more zombies getting air-holed, but I really come to see what it's like in a world that's dying.

And then there are the complaints about how some characters (particularly the female characters) aren't evolving. Artemis' comment from last week (which is very well-written and thought out) complained that Carol hasn't evolved enough in the wake of her husband's death. Bear in mind, though, that she went through YEARS of abuse at his hands, of being told she was less than. Do you really expect, the second her abusive ass of a husband dies, that she would become a fully evolved, independent woman? That kind of abuse would take YEARS to emerge from, and that's in a world where things haven't gone to shit and therapy is still available. So I can't say I find it surprising that the woman whose only luxury wish was her Maytag would revert to old routines. Routines are where we find comfort, and in the world in which they now live, comfort has to be taken where it can be found.

And speaking of finding comfort where you can, Lori, too has evolved, though maybe not in the ways we might hope a strong female character would. When things went to hell, and she thought her husband was dead, she turned to Shane for protection and comfort, just to feel something other than dread and hopelessness (something se said this week). When Carl was fading away, she actively considered letting him die to spare him the cruelty of the new world in which they found themselves. She resorted to desperate measures to resolve her pregnancy, even if she did change her mind. This is a woman who fiercely protected her son when the end came, but now considers death the best option for him (and his unborn sibling). She's evolving into a harder, more realistic person, something that Rick has yet to do.

And by the way, I take issue with the idea that Rick has no say in the decision regarding the baby. Yes, I realize it's her body, but they are partners in life and marriage, and more importantly, in the conception of that child. And Rick pointed out, rightly, that she hypocritically chides him for keeping his command decisions private while at the same time making such a major choice on her own. He wasn't trying to tell her she COULDN'T abort the child or make that decision for her in any way, only that it was wrong of her not to discuss it with him. That's not "pro-life moralizing", it's "marriage is a partnership, even in the apocalypse".

Also, do you really want The Walking Dead to be used as a vehicle for teaching proper use of the Morning After pill? Is it really so important that, in a show about the dead returning to life and attacking the living, all the medical details be exact? Could you not view it as an extension of the desperation and hopelessness of this new world, that in lieu of a doctor to help or advise her she went with the best thing she could think of, wrong as it might be? At some point we have to stop expecting every piece of entertainment to be a responsible vehicle for enlightenment on real world issues, let go of our real world expectations, and lose ourselves in this artificial reality being created for us. And who among us really knows what we might do in that situation? None of us, because none of us has experienced anything CLOSE to what these characters are going through.

Yes, things are moving slowly. But isn't the point to show this hard-edged group of survivors becoming complacent? That way, when the shit hits the fan, as it always will, the shock and horror will be that much greater. It will evolve the group as a whole, teaching them always to be on their guard. It will teach them that, no matter how much they wish it, the old world is dead and is never coming back. I'm not saying this is a perfect show. I too have my issues (the seemingly limitless ammo; the fact that Daryl was impaled by one of his own arrows, an arrow which has seen the inside of many a zombie brain and gets little more cleaning than a quick wipe across his nasty pants, and yet suffers no effects from the virus). But I also recognize that this show is about these people learning their way through a new world, and that learning process will be a slow, and very painful, one.

Posted by: JustBill at November 22, 2011 2:29 PM

JustBill, I think that's a problem with the show's pacing. Yes, in real life it is unlikely that you're going to see people change much in the 10 or 11 days this show has covered. But if the show isn't making characters change, and it isn't building reasons for why they have the character traits already have, then what exactly are we getting out of it? That's why Lost -- another show that covered a compressed timeline -- relied on flashbacks to show characters motivations and to give us a sense they'd changed over time.

If The Walking Dead doesn't want Carol to develop any personality because it would take longer than a week to recover from years of abuse (which I agree is realistic), then it needs to spend some time having her be sad her husband is dead (an interesting reaction that would be totally in character for many victims of abuse) and/or talking about/showing us how that relationship began and why she stayed with him.

Fundamentally, though, I don't think the show is not changing Carol (or anyone else) because they're worried about realism. Carl recovered from a life-threatening gunshot wound and losing half the blood in his body in less than 4 days. Darryl went from racist jerk to selfless protector in under a week. Surely Carol could develop an interest in something other than laundry in the same time.

Posted by: Artemis at November 22, 2011 2:41 PM

@Artemis: It's like two entirely different characters named Maggie between that scene and this episode.

I totally didn't notice that, but yeah, that was Maggie on the horse clocking the zombie with a baseball bat! WTF? I guess it doesn't count if you didn't know them before the apocalypse? Sloppy writing, ugh.

Posted by: MM at November 22, 2011 2:42 PM

JustBill, you just made me realize why I have not given up on this show.

I rolled my eyes this ep many a time, actually shouted "can they please just find the kid dead, alive, zombiefied, SOMETHING?!" at one point during the commercial breaks and at the end of it thought, "that's it?!"

But damn if I don't love this show. It is appointment tv and will continue to be appointment tv until it is shoved off the air by low ratings or AMC pulling a hoe move.

Posted by: smijca at November 22, 2011 2:51 PM

@JustBill:
That's not "pro-life moralizing", it's "marriage is a partnership, even in the apocalypse".

Thank you for this. Simply, elegantly put, and, as it happens, exactly right.

Posted by: jon29 at November 22, 2011 2:55 PM

I agree that Rick has a right and a say in what happens to his child. If a father is out of the picture completely, that's one thing...but a present and married father is another.

Posted by: Cindy at November 22, 2011 3:03 PM

"Unless the complete absence of prenatal care leads to the death of both mother and baby."

"Besides the obvious lack of maternal health care there is the whole "babies taste like chicken to Zombies" issue"

The level of care available at the vet's house should be enough to carry a baby to term. And yes, there are always risks delivering a baby, but not any that haven't been faced for thousands of years.

"unless they have the baby, and its presence makes the entire group all the more vulnerable to being killed in zombie attack (because they'd move slower with a baby, because it's crying would attract zombies, etc)."

True, but they don't seem make attempts to be quiet at the farm. Based on Hershel's speech about hope for the future, he'd be willing to keep them on for the sake of the baby.

Maybe he'd want the cord for some stem-cell experiments on zombies......


Posted by: Calvinthebold at November 22, 2011 3:22 PM

I don't have a problem with Rick getting mad that Lori didn't tell him about the pregnancy, since obviously, a bunch of secrets were harming their relationship. But his anger about that was entwined with his whining about her not being willing to "give [the pregnancy] a chance" (I think those were his words). It's absolutely ridiculous of him to get on his high horse about her wanting to have an abortion. Sorry Rick, maybe when you're the one risking your life to actually bring the kid into a hopeless, zombie infested world, then maybe you can make the call.

Also - despite what Lori said, don't the implications point to the fact that this is actually Shane's baby?

Posted by: Cree83 at November 22, 2011 3:25 PM

Has anyone noticed that this whole new barn revelation plotline is IDENTICAL to Survival of the Dead? Right. Because that wasn't an aborted fetus of a movie worthy of the flattery of imitation. (Assuming no one noticed because NO ONE SAW IT.)

I'm so glad I decided to be done with this shitshow.

Posted by: Stacey at November 22, 2011 3:26 PM

One review, a kajillion comments, and still not ONE mention of T-Dawg?!?

Did you not see the way he handled that peach?!? Or his glowering presence in the background of someone else's conversation?!?

Emmy-worthy stuff like that only comes along once a generation, folks - you heard it hear first!

It's because he's Black, isn't it... The writers don't know how women-parts work, and they don't know Black people.

Posted by: malikvlc at November 22, 2011 3:27 PM

Yeah, no. A vet is not a an OB/GYN. They had to rely on the vet to save Carl because they were desperate and had no other choice. And in that case, it was touch and go the whole time. They have a choice here. And the sensible one is to avoid a complicated medical situation. I'm not saying that nobody should try to have a baby, ever, but if Lori's having qualms about it, it doesn't make any sense for people to try to convince her to go on the more dangerous, life threatening path.

Posted by: Cree83 at November 22, 2011 3:31 PM

Has anyone noticed that this whole new barn revelation plotline is IDENTICAL to Survival of the Dead?

I saw that shitshow. (Don't ask.) I blocked it from my mind, I guess.

Re T-Dog: Whaddya mean, the writers don't know black people? Didn't you hear him tell the young kid, "Don't give me that gangster shit" when the kid held the gun sideways? All black people talk like that, you know.

Posted by: MM at November 22, 2011 3:33 PM

superasente >> I'm not sure where I fall on the Lori debate, but I dug your possum parable.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at November 22, 2011 3:33 PM

Has anyone noticed that this whole new barn revelation plotline is IDENTICAL to Survival of the Dead? Right. Because that wasn't an aborted fetus of a movie worthy of the flattery of imitation. (Assuming no one noticed because NO ONE SAW IT.)

For what it's worth, Stacey, this whole new barn revelation plotline is taken DIRECTLY from the comic.

The comic started in 2003. Hershel's first apperance was in issue #10. The barn reveal didn't happen too much after that. So, we can probably put the barn reveal sometime around 2005? 2006 at the latest?

"Survival Of The Dead" came out in 2009.

So who is imitating whom exactly?

If you want to rag on a "shitshow" get your facts straight. There is a plenty to rip on this show about without the need to make shit up.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at November 22, 2011 3:35 PM

If you're looking for some good zombie action, let me recommend Dead Set

Posted by: dorquemada at November 22, 2011 3:45 PM

If The Walking Dead doesn't want Carol to develop any personality because it would take longer than a week to recover from years of abuse (which I agree is realistic), then it needs to spend some time having her be sad her husband is dead (an interesting reaction that would be totally in character for many victims of abuse) and/or talking about/showing us how that relationship began and why she stayed with him.

Fundamentally, though, I don't think the show is not changing Carol (or anyone else) because they're worried about realism. Carl recovered from a life-threatening gunshot wound and losing half the blood in his body in less than 4 days. Darryl went from racist jerk to selfless protector in under a week. Surely Carol could develop an interest in something other than laundry in the same time.

Posted by: Artemis at November 22, 2011 2:41 PM

I totally agree that back stories are heavily needed. It's one of the greater failings of the show so far. I was delighted at the brief scene of Shane, Lori and Carl (along with Carol and kin) on the highway during the mass exodus, and the horror of the bombing of Atlanta. What we need to see more of is the absolute terror coming from all sides, be it the government's reaction to the crisis, the dawning realization of just what horrible thing is happening, or the complete and utter chaos when it really sinks in.

Yes, Carl's recovery time really grates a bit. But then again, we have no real idea how long it was between Hershel saving him and this week's events. You say it was 4 days, but do we really know for sure? And do we really know that Daryl has changed THAT much? It was pretty clear from his hallucination that Merle (the true crazy, racist asshole) was the one who formed Daryl's impression of what a "true" man was. Perhaps Daryl was always the more selfless of the two, but suppressed it in deference to his older brother who raised him. I'm not saying I'm right and you're wrong, only that neither of us knows for sure, and we should give the show time to build these facts out for us. A swifter pace would be nice, but I'm willing to let it play out. Television this bold deserves a little coddling, lest we be left with nothing more than 100 more iterations of CSI or Law & Order.

Oh, and to those complaining about the protracted search for Sophia: I get it. It's taking up too much time, and they should resolve it soon. But at the same time, I see it as another vestment of the old ways that they will eventually have to shed. Cruel as it may seem, a lengthy search for the girl is a luxury they can no longer afford. Knowing the hellscape the world has become, knowing the dangers, old AND new, that exist for a child lost alone in the wilderness, and knowing that the constant splitting up into search parties endangers the group as a whole, they will eventually need to realize that moving on from the search is best for the majority.

But they are still, for the time being, people of civilization. People of civilization don't give up until an answer is found, one way or another. People of civilization think nothing of splitting up to search for a lost child, because in civilization, that's what you do: never give up. But what they will eventually, painfully, realize is this: civilization is dead. Sure, they might find some remnants of it traveling together, but it's basically the same as Jesse (on Breaking Bad) calling his dead girlfriend's voicemail over and over just to hear her voice. It's an echo of a time long gone and never to return, and eventually, all echoes fade into nothingness.

Posted by: JustBill at November 22, 2011 3:48 PM

If you're looking for some good zombie action, let me recommend Dead Set.

I agree. I really enjoyed "Dead Set."

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at November 22, 2011 3:53 PM

You know I did wonder if the show was getting a little anti-choice (I hate the fact that they use the term pro-life when they're usually in favor of the death penalty) but I like the balance with Herschel being all "you don't kill people just because they're sick".

Posted by: PaddyDog at November 22, 2011 4:05 PM

Of the many, many things bothering me about this show, the one I can't get out of my head is how blase they've become (unless a zombie is within 3 feet of them).

It's the goldarn Zombie Apocalypse people! Under those circumstances, years would go by before I can imagine I'd be able to talk about anything except what the hell we're gonna do about all those zombies. And they're standing around fighting with their boyfriends/girlfriends/wives/husbands.

Posted by: Jana at November 22, 2011 4:23 PM

Can anyone give additional explanation as to what might have happened in the subdivision house they went into? It looked to me as if a bunch of zombies had at some point been incinerated by the inhabitants when they tried to come through the garage. And then in the walled off room, it looked as if the inhabitants had all done a Jim Jones Guyana special together. Anyone?

Posted by: PaddyDog at November 22, 2011 4:28 PM

I remembered my question from Sunday: Where is all of this ammo coming from? Are they raiding abandoned police cars or did they secretly trade Sophia for self-replicating bullets?

Posted by: Bob Frapples at November 22, 2011 4:53 PM

Speaking of stealing plotlines, wasn't there a bit of street napalming happening in World War Z? But to be honest, there are but so many ways that humanity can react to a zombie apocalypse. I think, creatively, everyone will eventually have to dip in the same idea bucket.

@malikvlc, His name is "T-Dawg". There are gotdam zombies walking in the street, his whole family is probably dead, his past is irrelevant, and yet, he's consciously going by the name "T-Dawg". T-DAWG. That alone labels him as a token. His initial role was to play victim behind Merle's over-the-top racism, but now Merle is gone, and I think that the writer's apprehension of actually fulfilling token prophecy and killing him off is trumping their lack of ideas about what to do with him.

The characters of this show annoy me like nothing else. I'm over Dale's fatherly obsession with Andrea, because I don't get it. Its intensity is not founded in a damn thing, and frankly, if she wants to screw the psychopath because her blood is up after shooting a gun (another obsession of that I'm over.) then it is her vadge. Glenn is the most believable character out of all them, but Maggie is right. The group drags him down. And if it weren't for Daryl, I'd have given up on this show on episode 3. But I actually very much appreciate that Daryl is beginning to exhibit the stress of the situation, and I want to see just how close to the edge his hallucinations take him.

Posted by: J_Capri at November 22, 2011 4:54 PM

My apologies Forbiddendonut for "making things up" (which is apparently interchangeable for "being mistaken"). I guess I just assumed that if this plotline was a part of the comic y'all wouldn't be so fucking astounded at how boring and asinine it is.

But what do I know. I didn't read the comic and haven't seen the latest three episodes; just read the recaps out of a waning curiosity.

I think one thing we all can agree on is that George Romero has lost his damn mind. And there's no islands inhabited with Scottish people off the coast of Delaware.

Posted by: Stacey at November 22, 2011 5:12 PM

I remembered my question from Sunday: Where is all of this ammo coming from? Are they raiding abandoned police cars or did they secretly trade Sophia for self-replicating bullets?

The big bag of guns and ammo that Rick got from his police station in the very first episode and there was all that "to do" about in some later episode.

I'm over Dale's fatherly obsession with Andrea, because I don't get it. Its intensity is not founded in a damn thing, and frankly, if she wants to screw the psychopath because her blood is up after shooting a gun (another obsession of that I'm over.) then it is her vadge.

Dale, Andrea and Amy were together for a while before they hooked up with the rest of the group. This is another way in which a "flashback" could help establish Dale and Andrea's relationship. Also, I am not sure that Dale's interest in strictly fatherly. Just 'cause the man's old doesn't mean he doesn't he isn't interested in companionship.

As for the character development point. I think there has been plenty character development. In some cases, perhaps too much character development.

At this point we have different tiers of characters (could be some argument as to where people lie exactly):

A-Listers:
Rick, Lori, Shane and by extension Carl

B-Listers:
Glenn, Andrea, Dale, Hershel, Maggie and Darryl

C-Listers:
T-Dawg, Carol, Sophia, and everyone else on the farm - the young kid, the young girl and Mrs. Otis.

We've had plenty of character development with the A-Listers and a decent amount for the B-List group. The C-Listers really haven't had much screen time and spend a lot of time in the background and what not. The show could do a better job of giving the C-Listers more to do and more character development but cutting into some of the time spent developing the A-Listers.

What I liked about this episode, as compared to some of the last few, is that we actually saw some different character development, as opposed to the same old repetitive arguments and stuff, from Lori (in particular), Rick, Glenn, Andrea and Dale.

I would like to see more character development out of T-Dawg and Carol, but to say that this show lacks character development is sorely mistaken. I have an excellent sense of Rick, Lori, and Shane. I have a very good sense of most, if not all, of the B-Listers as well. I think there may be a bit too much harping on the lack of development of some characters who are quite clearly minor characters, at least at this point.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at November 22, 2011 5:15 PM

Ever since Sophia went missing, I've been saying to myself....

(edited for spoilers - TK)

Posted by: xl at November 22, 2011 5:40 PM

In addition to the travellers' seemingly infinite ammo, the farm appears to have an endless supply of chickens, given the half dozen or so that are tossed to Hershel's barn cats every so often.

Posted by: Wapshin at November 22, 2011 7:03 PM

I have a dumb question. Did we, the audience, see Shane point a gun at Rick? I don't recall it. Or, was it just Dale's reveal.

I love the show! While I agree with some of the criticism, there is far more to like than #$dislike. I love how much of a mother f&ck%$ Shane is! When he blew Otis away, I was stunned and fired up! I was so sure that Otis would volunteer to die to help Shane get back to Carl with meds. But, for Shane to murder him - whoa! There has been significant character development for Darryl - my favorite character. I can't stand Andrea. I love Dale, Glen, T-Dawg, and the farmer family. When Glen was challenging Maggie to see the walkers for what they are, and asked her what she thought they were, I cracked up when she said, "mom, sean, duncan..." I love how the farmers have a completely different perspective than our main group of survivors.

Posted by: dawnpilkington at November 22, 2011 7:03 PM

I still say I would fight old Herschel for the zombie free farm. I mean how magical zombie free places are they going to find?

Posted by: logan at November 22, 2011 7:16 PM

At some point we have to stop expecting every piece of entertainment to be a responsible vehicle for enlightenment on real world issues, let go of our real world expectations, and lose ourselves in this artificial reality being created for us.

Thank you! I'm pretty sick of seeing people poking and prodding the political correctness of the current crop of shows... "Once Upon A Time is prejudiced against birthmothers" (true title of a thread at hulu), "Community hates gays" and "Dean Pelton is a closeted gay man and you can tell he's deeply unhappy" and now the claims that this show is pro-choice. Please stop having knee jerk reactions to every possible scenario that maybe, possibly, contains your pet peeve. Lori was desperate, which was pretty obvious when she took about five doses of the morning after pill. It obviously wasn't meant to show the correct method of using the meds, it's the middle of a fucking zombie apocalypse, for god's sake.

I get the impression Maggie is merely humoring her father regarding the zombies. She might still think of the barn zombies as family but she seems to also realize that they're deadly. The zombie in the drugstore would shock anyone and she came damn close to being bitten and she didn't seem too horrified when Glenn bashed its head in.

I'm apparently not as discerning as most of you since I'm still loving this show. I'm looking forward to Shane finding out that Lori is pregnant. I'm unsure of the timeline but he could be the father, right?

Posted by: snapnhiss at November 22, 2011 8:01 PM

I feel like I’m trapped in some "Survivors on the island" show. You know when our heroes are trapped on the island and every week we watch how they will get from that island to home but we know that they never will because then the show will end. And they will stuck on that island for some 3 seasons and then show will be canceled. It’s not only about Lost.It’s about many other "island" shows.There was that a show called Amazon. About a commercial aircraft that crashed in the Amazon rain forest in Brazil, leaving only a handful of survivors. And every episode they tried to get out of those jungles. And then show was canceled.

I gave up on this season. I lost any hope that they will ever drive away from that stupid farm. They probably will – in the last five minutes of season finale. And producers will be like: "See you next year".

And also Carol and her not believable story. She is mother. Her child is out there alone. She would NEVER sit like that in camp. She would take gun and would search for stupid Sophia from dusk till dawn.

Posted by: Shy at November 22, 2011 8:04 PM

I think Lori took MULTIPLE morning-after pills... it looked to me to be at least 6 or 7. I think she was trying to overdose in the hopes of causing a miscarriage. I could see that she would not be fully educated about how it works since, perhaps she never used it before. I think it's fitting in with the overall feeling of desperation for her to try on overdose on something that would have been ineffective anyways.

Posted by: Michelle at November 22, 2011 8:40 PM

Oh, but Michelle! It was the improper way to use them and might cause other young women to use them improperly... during a zombie apocalypse. ;)

What a ridiculous thing to get upset about.

Posted by: snapnhiss at November 22, 2011 9:01 PM

Fuck me sideways. You know XL, shockingly enough some of us who watch the show haven't read the comics. Could you keep your goddamn trap shut about things that haven't happened yet?

Or at the very least put a fucking "spoiler" alert in.

Yeah, I should've caught that. Fixed, but too late I guess. -TK

Posted by: Kelly at November 22, 2011 10:17 PM

You do what you can TK. Besides, you shouldn't have to police each and every single comment just because some dimwit can't figure out how to type the word "spoiler".

Posted by: Kelly at November 22, 2011 10:43 PM

This is so sad. I'm glad I gave up watching after the first episode. I couldn't take trying to watch this every week. I'll stick with the reviews.

Posted by: Candy at November 23, 2011 2:58 AM

@TylerDFC I agree with your wife. I don't give a damn about any of the characters. So, I can't invest in what happens to them. I'm actively hoping several of them (Lori especially) become Zombie food. Lori really is one of the worst characters I've ever seen. I can't decide if that's due to the actress, who I actually liked in Prison Break, or the character. When Sarah Wayne Callie's character's head ended up in a box on Prison Break (it ended up not being her head. Don't ask) I was very sad. Now, If Lori's ended up being lopped of by the Zombie hoardes I would cheer.

Posted by: Lexana at November 23, 2011 4:15 AM

I saw the potential spoiler but since I've never read the graphic novels, I didn't recognize the name. So, in sense, it wasn't a spoiler at all.

Posted by: snapnhiss at November 23, 2011 6:55 AM