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The Walking Dead - 'Isolation': Midnight Is Comin' Round, Still Mostly Down Around Here

By TK | TV Reviews | October 28, 2013 | Comments ()


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I can think of few grimmer opening shots than one of a group of friends, drenched in the sweat of heat and exhaustion, digging graves for the ones they’ve lost. It was an opening that did a marvelous job of setting the tone for the relentlessly dreary third episode of this fourth season of The Walking Dead. Ever since the first hint of a cough, the mood and atmosphere of the show has taken a steep decline, and ‘Isolation’ continues that devastatingly maudlin trend. This week’s outing also continues the (albeit short) streak of very good episodes, although I would posit that this week’s has been the weakest so far. That’s still faint criticism, considering how great the first two were.

After the gravedigging, we’re brought to the scene of last week’s crime, as Rick, Daryl, Carol and Tyrese face the smoking corpses of their friends. Rick’s development has been steady and well-rendered these past few weeks, and while the turn that he took here as sharp, snapping in rage after Tyrese’s grief overtook him, it was done with a certain sense of inevitability. Rick as the gentle soul, content to cultivate plants and raise pigs, has never been a sustainable option and while he’s never been a psychotic, his capacity for violence has always been a part of him. There was a sense of release, of catharsis, that came with that outburst, and despite its brutality, it felt right.

Tyrese, on the other hand, was a character arc that didn’t play out quite as well. Chad Coleman has been given an odd part to pay — in Season Three, his character was shy and accommodating, almost to the point of obsequious. Season Four, with a group of writers determined to right some past wrongs, has brought him into the forefront of the group, but there are some growing pains. This week, Tyrese was a ball of uncontrolled fury, and when it worked, it felt legitimate. He’s a man who is having everything stripped from him by invisible forces, and he is breaking under the strain of the weight born by those losses. Yet it also felt forced at times, as if his anger was almost overwrought and veering into melodrama. His second confrontation with Rick, his obstinate barking at Carol, all felt a bit too deliberate, as if you could feel the scene being directed, instead of it seeming natural and organic.

‘Isolation’ was an episode where little actually happened. Instead, it was more a chance to see how the stress and strain of the outbreak is affecting each of the major players, and in that sense it was an interesting, if not necessarily always engaging episode. The scenes with Beth and Maggie were quite good, and actually something that there should probably be more of — it feels like it’s been so long that they’ve been on screen together that I’d forgotten that they’re actually siblings. Similarly, Hershel was very good here, even though his stubbornness was a little frustrating at times. I particularly enjoyed his outing with Carl, mostly for the unexpectedly levelheaded and firm grasp on the situation that Carl displayed. Carl 2.0 has been a revelation, and it’s refreshing to no longer have to roll one’s eyes whenever he steps into view.

The highlight — action-wise — is the quest for medicine, as Daryl, Michonne, Tyrese and Stookie (for some reason, I feel strange just calling him Bob) depart to the veterinary hospital. It’s interesting for a few reasons — the increased interaction between Daryl and Michonne has been welcome, for one. They’re easily two of strongest characters on the show (this season, at least), and there’s a certain commonality there that makes for a pair of unique perspectives. It’s also interesting how they keep discussing the Governor, without ever directly actually saying it. He’s become almost mythic to them, a bogeyman to be either feared or hunted.

Of course, chaos erupts quickly, as they find themselves in the midst of an absolute horde of walkers. And watching Michonne and Daryl work their way through with vicious efficiency was a breathtaking, stunning exercise. There’s a certain grace and economy of movement that both Reedus and Gurira seem to have, and it makes their characters appear much more lethal, and when set loose on a crowd, they fall somewhere between ballet and buzzsaw. Yet the depiction of Tyrese never quite resonated with me — first he inexplicably freezes up in the car, and then he charges like a raging, wounded bear into the thick of it. Surrounded by walkers on all sides, there’s a suicidal fury to his actions that almost worked, yet ultimately collapsed under the weight of its excess. And that final shot of him bursting through the woods was the final straw. It’s one thing to believe that two skilled soldiers can move with quickness and dispatch the walkers with a harried-yet-skilled sense of ease. It’s another to believe that a man can be buried beneath a mob of walkers and escape unharmed, thanks only to a knife and his own rage.

But really, it’s Carol that we should be talking about the most, because Melissa McBride is skyrocketing to the top of my list of favorite performers on the show. There’s a glint of reluctant steel in every look of hers now, and while it’s still tempered by the sense of kindness that pervades her actions, Carol has becomes something else entirely. Whoever she’s dealing with — Tyrese, the young girl who catches the sickness — there’s a kind of softness that feels like it’s wrapped around a core of stone. There was something chilling about her plaintive “yes” as she answered Rick’s question, as if she has resigned herself to becoming something harsh and unyielding out of necessity.

‘Isolation’ worked in fits and starts, but it felt like part of what held it back was just that — there were so many shifts and each vignette was so brief that at times it felt like no single scene was around long enough to find its footing. When you consider the almost languid pace of the episode — up until the end, it was simply a long series of scenes of tragedy — that kind of rapid fire scene-cutting ultimately didn’t work in its favor. That said, The Walking Dead is also being held to a higher standard now — this was still a solid episode, it just paled in comparison to the first two. For the first time in a long time, I feel like I can have a bit of faith. The wheels are turning and trouble has gone past brewing — it’s now boiling over and threatening to burn everything that they’ve fought so hard for. Now, each day brings more death and horror, and the future is perhaps darker than ever. Just when they think they’ve found their place in the order of things, a new, silent terror finds them, proving that once again, there is no safety, no sanctuary, no matter how strong your walls are.







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  • peachykeen5014

    I had the same thoughts on Beth and Maggie. I completely forgot they were related, at all. I thought Beth was just this random, Luna Lovegood-y girl who had stuck around.

    I know it's still early, but can we not fire this show runner after this season? I think I like him.

  • St

    Also Flu conveniently helps creators to get rid of Lost people. does it? I mean Woodbury. There were too much of them. Now there will be less and maybe we will even learn their names and faces. Also - they were having happy and peaceful life with governor. Until Rick and gang showed up and now look at them – dying in a dirty empty prison. And I would like to know just him people is there in prison.

    And that stupid Governor was mercifully absent in another episode. Thank God. Let’s hope that when they will bring him back he will be killed after some 2 episodes. And won’t be big bad evil guy for 10 episodes. That everyone will try to kill but will only succeed in season finale.

  • St

    Well this episode was weaker then the first 2. Sometimes it felt like it was episode from season 2 when there was too much boring talking. They talk and talk and whoa – it’s almost 25 minutes into episode.

    I like Luna Lovegood this season I wish they would spend even more time on her.
    The whole “Flu” thing looks very real and scary. And then Glenn got sick and we all know that it means they will conveniently find cure. I wonder if they will spare Sasha. I like her.

    They hinted that Carol might be behind killing when she had her breakdown with water stuff. So I wasn’t surprised that she did it.
    Good make-up in episode. Every person really looked very sick. Walking Dead had best make-up artists in Hollywood.

    Hershel went to sick people. How clishe. Will they kill him now? Also it’s cruel but it’s right time for creators to get rid of Ricks baby. They should not have even brought her at all. Lori could conveniently have miscarriage. But baby was born and now no one knows what to do with her. So they gave her to Luna Lovegood and baby is out of the picture most of the time. And only shows up to remind us that Rick remembers that he has a daughter. And what will they do with her when they will run out of prison eventually? Or when baby will be 3 or 5? Also Beth should have other things to do in this show then be “forever babysitter and new mom” for Judith.

  • I just wanna thank the writers for giving Tyrese the madness moment. Happened in the jail in the books but worked for me here as well.

  • apsutter

    I'm very excited for the adventures that are going to happen outside the prison now. Looks like even Rick and a couple others will be out gallivanting next week.

  • John W

    Somebody needs to write a book titled:

    "So you've survived the Zombie Apocalypse, Now Its Time To Build Effective Booby Traps That Will Kill Mindless, Slow Moving, Zombies For You, Without Putting Yourself In Danger All The Time."

    Or

    "Zombie Crowd Control for Dummies."

  • St

    You know what always bothers me? They supposedly killed who knows how much zombies through those prison gates. 200? 300? We saw in season opener how they were killing them again and again. Where are the CORPSES? Did they bury 300 zombies in some big massive grave? Because filed looks clear every time. And only "alive" zombies are at the gates.

  • TheAggroCraig

    My friend made the same observation about Carl, how he's not an annoying little shit anymore and actually seems pretty well-adjusted. My answer: he's seen some shit, man. Shooting your own mother in the head would probably either turn you into a complete psycho or give you some perspective. We extended that conversation to include Carol. Remember when all she did was laundry and cry? Now she's involved and the show is better for it.

  • logan

    I liked Hershel little speech about what was worth risking your life for. It made perfect sense to me. With so many ways to die in their world risking your life to save people you know seems like a better way to die than being eaten by a zombie.

  • Keith Ballard

    It was perfect. The other characters didn't seem to realize that Hershel has been forced to sit on the sidelines and watch as they risk their lives on a regular basis to deal with zombies. Hershel is finally given a chance to do own part in this mess and he was still being denied.

  • Keith Ballard

    My interpretation was that Tyrese froze in the car due to the realization that they had failed. He had already lost the woman he loved and now another person that's important to him is running out of time. The instant that the car got stuck her survival (and Glenn's for that matter) seemed impossible. The whole plan was to get in, grab the medicine, and get back out quickly in order to save people from a disease that kills you in a day. Assuming they made it to their destination they might be able to get the medicine, but they are now 50 miles away from the prison and easy transportation is a thing of the past.

    When Tyrese froze it seemed fitting. There was a sense of futility to it all at this point. He didn't seem afraid or confused, but defeated.

    When he finally got moving again I saw that as a return of the stubborn fury that we'd seen up to that point in the episode, a sudden refusal to accept the circumstances he was faced with. He's going to keep fighting and find a solution because he HAS to. By that I of course don't mean that the story has to play out a certain way, just that characters tend to rationalize their determination with some additional invented sense of purpose.

    I agree that his survival is absurd, though it played out a bit differently than I expected. I thought that they were going to look back at those trees and realize that they weren't being followed. They would then walk back to the car to find Tyrese, unscathed and surrounded by a countless bodies. This would have been even more ridiculous of course, but I immediately recognized this scene from the source material and figured that was where they were going. It's not an excuse, but you can blame the comics for the dramatic reveal that Tyrese is some sort of terminator.

    That whole portion of the scene was disappointing to me because I've been hoping that they were going to depart from the comics entirely and stop borrowing scenes from them. Nothing in this show has bothered me more than the way they handled Michonne last season. They wanted to keep iconic comic scenes while removing all of their context.

    The episode as a whole was a bit slow, but I was happy to see a lot of meaningful character moments that spanned much of the cast. The days where AMC's Walking Dead would forget about entire characters for half of a season seem to be behind us.

  • mairimba

    It's been explained somewhere by the new show runner and executive producers that this season they're using a lot more stuff from the books since that previous show runners went on a completely different route. They're going to use Michonne and Tyrese a lot more.

  • George Tarleton

    I think that part of the problem is that in the books, Tyrese was built up to be this sort of uber-badass zombie-killer, but in the show, that just hasn't been the case. As such, it comes out of nowhere. He's been a tough guy, sure, and something of a leader, but there was never an inkling that he was this zombie superkiller. So the whole thing felt sort of contrived and awkward.

  • elsie_the_first

    I understand he uses a hammer.

  • George Tarleton

    Well played.

  • J4Sho

    I saw what you did there.

  • J4Sho

    I feel like that is what they are trying to get to in this episode. Previously he wasn't feeling the whole zombie killing thing, but now that he lost his one true love he's transformed. I buy it because I love the comics in general and Tyrese specifically, but it was a little clunky to me too and could have been set up better.

  • Keith Ballard

    Agreed. Last season he was essentially a device to show Rick going over the edge. Later he gave us a perspective other than Andrea inside Woodsbury, but I don't remember ever getting a feel for his character. At this point in the comic he's been around for a huge portion of the story so his scenes feel more earned. I feel like he was functionally replaced by the new Daryl character so recreating his comic scenes now feels out of place.

    It leads me to reiterate my previous point: AMC's Walking Dead desperately needs to stop recreating specific scenes from the comic. They can certainly adapt the larger scenarios, but they've simply changed too much of the story for the context to accommodate in such specific ways.

    There are moments in the comic that are powerful because they are the culmination of months of setup. They are born of character motivation that is crafted over the course of a number of traumatic events in the story. The AMC show is unfortunately happy to skip over all of that setup and go right for the desert, but the result is inconsistent, confusing, and sometimes downright broken.

  • That crowd of zombies on the road was INSANE. These people need to forget this prison and head north and west as fast as possible, just to help with the numbers issue that they are facing on the coast in a warm climate near a major city. There are prisons in North Dakota too. That said, I still REALLY want to see a Walking Dead hurricane episode, so have that happen first.

    Carol is incredible this season and I love that she basically made the same decision with the sick that Rick made with the pigs last week. That was a nice bit of character work.

    Oh - and the Maggie/Beth scene through the door was terrific.

  • St

    That crowd scared me too. I was like - yeah, don’t even think about leaving prison to find new shelter if anything will happen. Like this Flu thing. Just sit in your little safe kingdom. and be grateful that you are not out there. Because those zombies will eat everyone in second. No one will run off.

    Except of Tyrese of course...

  • Calvinthebold

    Hurricane ep. would be cool. But I would turn down flat the suggestion to go where you could actually freeze to death if you didn't go out and get firewood daily, couldn't grow food for a lot of year and much less game animals around. If you went on a run and got delayed, shelter would be much more of an issue, as would be fire and good clothing. Too many logistically complications to go to a much colder area. I know, people lived in Scandinavia for 1000s of years, but these people ain't vikings

  • Yeah, I probably wouldn't last an hour in a zombiepocalypse, so my grand plan for our heroes is likely flawed to say the least, but if World War Z (book) taught us anything it's that zombies freeze in the winter and then you can take as long as you need for your runs. Everything else though (crops, shelter, clothing, game) - yeah, they'd be hosed.

  • apsutter

    With just a little bit of knowledge they could do it. All they need to do re-learn what the settlers were doing 150 years ago...things like canning, how to construct a shelter if need be, salting meat, how to track and trap game, and learning how to make things from scratch.

  • I wish they would show the elements affecting the zombies a bit more. It's addressed in the comics. Cold weather slows them down. I think they even found one in a frozen creek once?

    It seems to be perpetually August on The Walking Dead... which I suppose enhances a certain Southern Gothic horror vibe. But it never rains. It's barely even windy.

    It doesn't really bug me. But I'd like to see another challenge thrown into the mix.

  • mairimba

    When Shane and Otis went to the Veterinary hospital it was overrun by walkers. Now there're hundreds more. I wonder what's attracting them there. I doubt that there are any animals left for them to feed on.

  • elsie_the_first

    Shane and Otis didn't go to a veterinary hospital. They went to a high school where the army and/or fema (don't remember which) had previously set up an evac center.

    However, that doesn't negate the point you made about why there were so many walkers there in this episode.

  • seth

    Tyrese does not have a knife. He has a hammer. And it is an Estwing hammer at that. The hammer of choice of top rate carpenters everywhere. Know your facts.

  • bastich

    Shop smart. Shop S-Mart.

    YOU GOT THAT?!?

  • seth

    Who downvotes fact checking! Ha!

  • George Tarleton

    I'm guessing it's more of a downvote for obnoxious and condescending pedantry.

  • seth

    I don't think Tyrese having a hammer is minor. It is a part of the character. And if you want to throw around a douche word like pedantry in a post dedicating to deconstructing a tv show then I think you are way off the mark.

  • George Tarleton

    Well, that's just it - it's not part of the character in the show. In the comics, yes. In the show, that's the first time he's seen wielding it, and as such it's a rather inconsequential detail, and yet you felt the need to take the writer to task over that. At this point in time, there really are only three signature weapons - Daryl's crossbow, Michonne's sword, and Rick's pistol. Prior to this, there's been no connection between Tyrese and his fancy hammer. So really, in the grand scheme of things, it's not a big deal.

    Did the writer get the detail wrong? Yes. But for you to castigate him for what is, in this context, a minor detail, is the very essence of pedantry.

    But then again, I also didn't know that words could be douchey.

  • seth

    he has always had a hammer. be it Estwing or sledge. he has always had a hammer.

  • George Tarleton

    OK. Clearly this is way more important to you than I originally understood. You win. He's always had a hammer.

    Sheesh.

  • Calvinthebold

    1st two episodes were so strong, this one was a bit of a let-down. My biggest problem was the shout-at-the-tv moment "watch the F**ing road! You know you're going to hit something!" and "Put it in reverse NOW! Not in 10 seconds, but NOW - before you're overrun!" Characters acting stupidly out of character just to advance the plot is frustrating. If you want the group to get stranded, just make the car break down. Even if Zach kept the car well, you could still have a faulty wire harness. No way to fix that.

  • apsutter

    That's the thing I hate about this show. Characters doing incredibly uncharacteristic things just to put them in another predicament. Much like the sick people at the prison coughing blood all over the fucking place and not practicing basic fucking hygiene.

  • BeardoGomez

    "considering how great the first two was, and it was only a couple of things that marred this episode."

    Ugh, this sentence fragment....EDITOR!!!

  • TK

    1) Fixed.

    2) Bite me.

  • Wigamer

    He should be so lucky!!!

  • I thought last night's episode was very plodding and methodical, so I can see why some might consider it the weakest of the season so far.

    But, in hindsight, I was completely satisfied with how they've set things up for the next few episodes. It's going to pay off huge in short order.

    That said, I was a little leery of Carl 2.0 in this episode. He seemed to be champing at the bit to go outside with Hershel and almost couldn't wait to assert himself again by disposing of the Bear Trap Zombie. More than a few times in that scene, I muttered to myself, "Oh, Carl..."

    It was bit of a relief to see Hershel walk Carl away from his instinct to kill. It was an interesting echo of the scene they shared last season when Carl killed the unarmed teenager.

  • Three_nineteen

    So, if Bear Trap Zombie finds a live human and eats them, the human should be relieved that Carl reined in his killing instinct? What if Bear Trap Zombie is the one who finds its way into the prison? If you see a walker and can kill it safely, YOU KILL IT. I do not understand Herschel's "it's harmless" attitude.

  • Bert_McGurt

    I thought it was sort of funny that Herschel spared the Bear Trap Zombie. Maybe later we'll get to see them limp-race each other.

  • MGMcD

    I think it was two things: obviously Hershel is trying to steer Carl away from his killer instinct. He doesn't want Carl, who is still a child, to lose his (relative) innocence. Juxtaposing that with what the situation has turned Carol into was pretty powerful I thought. But I also think, based on Hershel keeping a barn full of zombies when we first met him, he still holds onto the idea that humanity can be saved. He doesn't want to indiscriminately kill zombies when they are not an immediate threat because he still thinks than somehow they can be cured.

  • Three_nineteen

    I think Carl's innocence left when he shot Zombie Shane in the head, but I suppose Hershel could be thinking that. That's a good point.

  • Marc Greene

    I agree. The group I watched it with did bring up the point about conserving ammo, but maybe they should have at least stabbied it in the face.

  • Considering Carl's failure to kill a zombie that ended up disemboweling Dale, maybe we'll see Bear Trap Zombie in Hershel's bed sometime later this season.

    They should conserve ammo, but I do agree that they should dispatch any walker they come across.

    Personally, I find it particularly confusing that they don't have rotating teams of Woodbury exiles clearing walkers off the prison fences every 15 minutes.

    It'd the absolute perfect situation to be in. You're secure, you don't waste a bullet and it's one less walker to worry about.

  • apsutter

    Seriously, how fucking stupid are the characters on this show? On last week's ep immediately after they are attacked and have to prop the fence up they show Rick outside alone burning the pig pen and over his shoulder you can see a big group of walkers at the fence again. Why wouldn't they have killed the rest at the fence after that?! Maddening!

  • Bobbs3k

    Unless I missed something super obvious, I'm still trying to understand what Rick saw that led him to know it was her. Any help here?

  • HJ

    When he saw the bloody handprint, he held up his own hand and saw the that the print was signifigantly smaller. I thought they were going to have Carl be the culprit but turns out it was Carol.

  • stu

    Haven't seen the episode yeat, could someone please clarify one thing. We're Karen and the other dude allready dead/turned when they we're burned. Or did the burner kill them while still human and then burned them. Cause there was so much blood in the cell and it seemed, to me atleast, that they've already died/turned. If that's the case, I think it was justified, they we're a lost cause...

  • Naye

    Tyrese states in the episode that they were "killed" and then burned. I guess it is up in the air as to whether that is true or not, only Carol would know. But I still question the motive. Why kill people who were already in a quarantined area?

  • mairimba

    We don't know yet if they were dead already. I imagine they will reveal this when they question Carol about it since it makes a huge difference.

  • Last week, I thought they had been murdered in the cells and dragged outside to be burned.

    But Rick found a bloody hand print on the edge of the door... as if someone had tried grabbing onto it to prevent being taken outside? So that kind of confused me, too.

  • mairimba

    The hand print was Carol's. That's how he figured it was her since it was a small hand print.

  • It couldn't have been another woman in the prison, though?

    Kind of a leap of faith on Rick's part to assume it was her, ask, and have his suspicion immediately confirmed?

  • St

    Oh you know that only Jack, Sawyer, Kate and other members of gang, I mean Rick, Carol, Glenn and other members of gang can make important decisions. And no one outside of circle of original main characters can’t do anything and can’t have their own personality to think about something like that. Of course Rick’s first choice was Carol. Other people just sit quietly in the background, eat food that our heroes give to them and just being grateful that they can sit in the background...

    There is not a chance that some Jessica or Natalie from Woobury could do that.

  • Bert_McGurt

    I think her sortie outside the walls where Rick had to come save her helped to tip him off.

  • mairimba

    He asked her if she was willing to do ANYTHING to help the group survive and that's why he followed that with the question of her killing/burning the bodies.

  • MissElvira

    They weren't dead/turned. I thought it was Carl. He murders another child in the comics. I thought it was a shout-out to that.

  • Angie Ramos

    I dunno I get the feeling that Carol is lying . I think that little girl that was naming the walkers actually killed Karen and David and she's just covering for her since she promised her dad she would take care of her.

  • DarthCorleone

    Nice theory, but I disagree. I'm not sure exactly how he figured whatever he figured based on those blood stains, but it would mean that his investigation skills are incompetent. Also, Carol's simple straightforward response - particularly as the end beat for an episode - had the ring of truth to me.

  • Agreed entirely too much. That little girl isn't sick, either.

  • I second this motion.

  • I had the exact same thought. She's not sick at all. I think she wants to die.

  • Either that, or wants to kill some people.

    She's a little crazy.

    For those who have read the comics: Ben & Billy.

  • Bert_McGurt

    Oh, most definitely. The father's resemblance to Allen was a big tip-off.

  • ed newman

    While I like this theory, Carol had to be directly involved as well, at least in the burning. No way that 75 pound girl drags those two bodies outside on her own.

  • Angie Ramos

    Oh I think she was definitely involved in the burning but as far as killing them I just can't see her being that cruel out of nowhere.

  • SeattleIsInfected

    A minor question: Daryl spoke about butting a bullet in the head of whoever killed karen and other man who was never important to us. When he finds out it was carol how will that effect their relationship? While most people are enamored by the Glenn-Maggie dynamic, I am much more interested in the awkward tension and deep trust between Daryl and Carol.

  • mairimba

    I thought the same thing. How will this revelation affect their relationship? I sure hope they don't get rid of Carol. She may not be the type of warrior Daryl and Michonne are, but she sure has done a shit ton to help the group in the past couple of seasons.

  • DarthCorleone

    I was amused that Rick found his inner "natural police" instincts and "soft eyes" in solving the mystery of the burnt murdered corpses now that we're featuring two actors from The Wire.

    I didn't completely buy the first confrontation between Tyreese and Rick; it felt like a token comic shout-out. I don't even recall what their ridiculous all-out brawl in the comics was over, but it seemed much more credible in motivation. Had I not known about the scene in the comics, perhaps I wouldn't have felt that way. Then paired with the later scene in which Tyreese survives ridiculous odds against a zombie horde, and it emphasizes that shoehorning comic-homage element. I sort of got a kick out of it, but I'd rather just keep things organic and diverting if there must be a choice.

    On the topic of diversions from the source material, I dug the Carol revelation. It was a surprise to me, and it raises all sorts of interesting ethical questions that a universe like this one should have been exploiting much more frequently in its storytelling. Will Rick prioritize his longer history and friendship with Carol over "justice"? Would it be justice, or does Carol's cold pragmatism now rule the day for sufficiently moral reasons? Does Rick still consider himself a cop? Is there still a place for the structure of law enforcement as we know it in this society they are attempting to maintain among The Walking Dead? How few people in an apocalyptic situation does it take for the rules as we know them to be rightfully (or wrongfully) ignored?

  • Marc Greene

    The comic shout-out might have been because Robert Kirkman wrote this episode.

  • DarthCorleone

    Ah, didn't notice that. Thanks!

  • Leland Eidson

    Minor quibble from a comic reader, but Tyrese, had a hammer (his preferred weapon) not a knife. I actually quite liked his scene with the Walker horde, if only because it was taken from the comics and is by far my favorite scene with that character. However it still feels odd to see Cutty from the Cut and DeAngelo Barksdale together killing zombies.

    Overall though I liked the episode, and while it felt uneven, I was satisfied. The moment Tyrese started speaking with Carol, I figured out she was the one responsible for the fire. She's being written perfectly as a woman who has gone through hell and remained unbroken. Her resolve to keep herself and the group whole (at any cost) is probably the most organic thing that could have possibly happened to the character. She's now Mama Bear to the entire community, and God forbid anything that threatens the community good.

  • ooooo, now you've got me thinking of a final showdown between Carol and The Governor! I've got a feeling that she'd tear that ass up, too!

  • Maguita NYC

    This episode was a bit uneven compared to the first two. I still dislike it how the writers navigate characters of color and women. Although I do agree with you and love Carol's progression into adapting to her new world, as well as her important role within the community.

    That being said, I have never read the comics, and if Glenn dies... I will unleash hell... Or be very very heartbroken.

  • apsutter

    The scene when Glen was on the bed and Maggie walks in broke my heart. Just the way it was framed and how he was in darkness was perfect

  • linnyloo

    It was a step up to have enough named PoCs who've had some screen time to have three in isolation (the doctor, Sasha, Glenn) who each got some notice (and at least one other woman who wasn't a regular in that crew as well), and three on the mission for antibiotics -- they've come a long way from the Days of T-Dog.

  • I'm going to start a band called "The Days of T-Dog"

  • linnyloo

    And! We had several moments that passed the Race version of the Beschdel test in the last two episodes too.

  • mairimba

    I didn't connect Carol breaking down after Tyrese asked her to look after Sasha to her burning the bodies. Never crossed my mind it was someone from the main group.

    Tyrese being able to free his way out of the mega zombie herd was similar to last season when we thought the Governor was done when Andrea trapped him with all the walkers.

  • It's also in the comics, as well.

    It didn't play out like it did in last night's episode, but there was a scene where Tyrese was overrun and he fought his way out of it.

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