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TV Reviews | January 7, 2009 | Comments (34)


Rather than having someone post their meandering thoughts on the last year in television, we opted to have four people provide lots of meandering thoughts on the year in TV. Welcome to Pajiba’s Roundtable on the Television Year that Was. You don’t have to read Part 1 or Part 2 first, but Wooderson thinks it’d be a lot cooler if you did.

Dan:

Line-jump all you want. I’m easy on that sort of thing. (And, as people will verify, I’m easy with pretty much everything else. And yes, this is me flirting with Seth.)

My roommate and I opted for HBO over Showtime, so I’ve yet to plunge into the worlds of “Dexter” and “Weeds.” And while I know that’s an embarrassment in the age of TV on DVD, all I can say is that I’ve been busy watching other shows on DVD and on air, as well as trying to make it to the movies, carrying on a social life, and working one of those damn “jobs” that my parents say I need to have.

I’m with everyone else in agreeing that these past few years have been strong ones, and also that things look like they’re about to take a dip before anything really good comes along. But I think the important thing to remember is that great shows are out there — even if they only occasionally flirt with greatness — but that they often take a back seat to shows that are more easily sellable as “great,” you know? AMC’s “Breaking Bad” is better in just every conceivable way than FX’s “Damages,” but “Damages” has flashy ads and a bored-looking Glenn Close and is being hard-sold as a good show, but it’s just fucking not. It’s not. The good shows are out there, but they take some finding. Everybody knows about “The Sopranos” (very good), but far fewer have seen “The Wire” (unimpeachably great).

Let me step off that soapbox and onto another: What the hell is up with “Battlestar Galactica”? Oh yeah, I forgot: The show can only fill up 12-13 good episodes per season, so any season that asks for more than that — meaning every one but the first — is going to have some godawful filler moments to go with the better ones. This is the season that saw four of the final five Cylons try to make sense of their lives and their loyalty to the Colonial fleet even as they braced themselves for the possibility that they’d be turned against their will on their fellow survivors. But Lords of Kobol, was there some crap to wade through. Starbuck’s very own “Heart of Darkness” adventure was trying, as were her sweaty, repeated pleas of “Frak me” to the understandably emotionally confused Sam Anders. Cally’s discovery of Tyrol’s identity was a fantastic twist that should have been mined for suspense, intrigue, and the kind of spiritual struggle that would be interesting for Cally (who’s been pretty one-note) to experience: She’s fervently anti-Cylon — she did shoot Boomer back in the day — but she’s also completely devoted to Tyrol, refusing to leave him even when he went batshit delirious and beat her so bad he broke her jaw. I think watching her figure out what to do, and how it would happen, would have been the kind of interesting character drama that “BSG” can do pretty well. But oops, Cally was dead 20 minutes later after Tory blew her out the airlock. Damn, but that was poorly handled. And do not even get me started on what they did to Romo Lampkin, turning him from an interesting supporting character to a frakking loon with a gun and dead kitty. Just … blerg. The series didn’t start to find its footing again until the action picked up toward the end of what’s been the first half of Season Four, which resumes this month on the way to the series finale. The midseason twist was good, getting the survivors to Earth in a truce with the Cylons only to find a ruined postapocalyptic wasteland, and I think creator Ron Moore is ultimately smart enough to have crafted a good ending. Here’s hoping, anyway.

milf-island.jpgAnd what’s with the “30 Rock” knocking? Yes, the show came back crazy weak after the strike — “MILF Island,” a few jokes notwithstanding, was worthless — but the episodes this fall have been getting better and better. Steve Martin was great as Gavin Volure, proving that anyone can be fooled by a Tracy Jordan Sex Doll. And come on, “Reunion” is destined to live as one of the show’s classic outings: Quick, funny, angsty, and unrepentant, not to mention packed with amazing lines. (“We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.”) I loves me some Tina Fey, and she’s making the best network comedy out there right now.

Speaking of comedies, though: We have to give it up for “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia.” Bed pooping! Gas hording! Taco beds! And the soul-shattering glory of the Night Man musical. Fantastic all around.

Don’t forget to pay the troll toll.

Sarah:

I’ve got to disagree with Seth and Beckyloo on “Weeds.” This fourth season was solid and still had laughs, but even if the plotlines didn’t have you rolling, so what? That doesn’t make the show any less good; it just makes it less funny. And it’s not like it is trying to be funny and falling flat; the show has gotten a bit more serious, but that darkness is compelling and the series’ mood is largely reflecting that of the country’s. I say the new direction is welcome, and pigeonholing a show into the specific compartment you want it to be in, such as comedy, doesn’t leave much room for growth for most shows. Oh, and “True Blood” doesn’t suck. You guys suck. Burn!

Beckyloo’s theories on “Mad Men” are interesting, and I definitely agree with her in that the show thinks it’s a lot smarter than it actually is. Watching it, I feel like I’m watching a slow-paced documentary on the birth of the 60s. There really aren’t lessons or insights to gain — we’re just watching characters in impeccable costumes and sets show us how much life sucked way back when. Don Draper is largely irredeemable, especially in the way he callously cheats on his wife and lies about it to her face, making it hard for me to care for him. And having fallen in love with “The Wire,” a show that genuinely changed the way I think about society, it’s hard for me to give a flying rat’s ass about rich white people who invent problems to drink themselves into a stupor over, all while lounging in their schmancy offices, not working. The show is simply cold.

fey-and-poehler.jpgFor a new direction: 2008 was definitely “the year of the woman,” as lame and Time-cover-worthy as that sounds, and along with the breakout of Rachel Maddow on MSNBC, the two other women who stole the political coverage of the election were Tina Fey and Amy Poehler on “Saturday Night Live” as Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton. One of the more interesting TV developments of the year was “SNL” becoming culturally and politically relevant again, thanks mostly to Fey. I credit her and Katie Couric for the takedown of Palin, to which I am indebted to them, but it’s a shame that it took that impersonation to skyrocket Fey into the zeitgeist. She’s always been fabulous, but hey, she’s got brown hair and glasses! Just like Palin — how unique! She nailed the impersonation, but she’s more than that, and hopefully more people tune in to the always-fabulous “30 Rock” to see why. Back to “SNL”: The problem with its recent popularity is that the funniest players were alumni coming back to steal scenes, not only with Fey but with Will Ferrell coming back to play W. once. Will the show continue to matter now that it’s back to the regular cast, which is now short of the also fabulous Poehler? And can they please hire some black actors to play the Obamas so I don’t cringe every time I see Fred Armisen in blackface?

Beckylooo:

This roundtable shit could for serious go on forever. Someone’s gonna have to cry uncle. In an attempt at clarity and focus, Ima rock some bullet points.

1. Dan — I agree wholly with your take on “BSG.” (Though I get the feeling I’ve got more love for the show than you do.) What kills me is there’s room in the story for them to jettison the filler episodes (Woman King? Argh!) and continue exploring the overall arc but they don’t. It passeth my understanding.

2. “Breaking Bad” is great, though I’ve yet to finish the first season. But what’s your hitch with “Damages?” It’s one thing if you don’t like it, to each his own. But it’s not a bad show. It’s not great but it is really well constructed and solidly acted. I’d be interested in your supporting evidence for it being, you know, not good. Which it is. Really.

3. I’d like to clarify my position on “Weeds” as it’s a shade different from Seth’s. I don’t mind that it’s not as funny this season, my problem, or rather, what makes it less strong of a show than that which once was, is that there’s zero pathos. And if you’re not funny and you’re not making me feel anything more than loathing for your main character, methinks you’ve got problems. Simply put, Nancy sucks at life and it’s dragging the show down. There was one moment and one moment only in all of last season when I didn’t want to punch her in the face (her mea culpa over Popeyes). That’s not enough for me.

4. Tina Fey is my heroine. (That’s lady hero, not something you inject into your veins while listening to jazz.) And even though I don’t find this season of “30 Rock” to be on par with the last two, it’s still a little slice of comedy heaven. But as much as I love her, I can not credit her with the resurrection of “Saturday Night”…. seth-meyers.jpgI’ll give you three words for why SNL is kickin’ ass again: Seth. Motherfucking. Meyers. When he took over as head writer (2 years ago), the whole tone of the show shifted. They started taking crazy risks, doing way out there sketches (the Anne Hathaway eps alone was a bizarro bonanza of hilarity. The Lawrence Welk show. Mary Poppins the whore. Come on now!). Poehler will be missed. She and Tina took that shit to church each and every Sat night this election season, god bless both their bones. But the prize for renewed cultural relevance has gots to go to Mr. Meyers. (Sorry to betray the sisterhood, Sarah.) And I so totally disagree with your premise that the funniest players were returning alums. Kristin Wiig is a revelation. (Virgania Horsens Balloon Ride … Come fly with me!) And two of the new chicks, Casey Wilson and Michaela Watkins (whose Arianna Huffington is inspired), are clearly forces to be reckoned with. Jury’s still out on the third new chick, Abby Elliot. Haven’t seen enough of her. And the rest of the cast remains solid. Hammond (always gold, always), Hader (Italian talk show host much?), Keenan (deep house dish), Armisen (political “comedian” Nicholas Fehn never fails to slay me), Samberg (Mark Wahlberg talks to barnyard animals? Jizz in My Pants etcetcetc? Yes, please, more, thanks.) The show’s the strongest it’s been in years.

Which brings me ‘round to my earlier point about being at the tail end of a golden age of tele. I’d like to amend that statement. I think we’re at the tail end of a golden age of television drama. I think thanks to “30 Rock,” “The Office,” “SNL” and the heretofore unmentioned “How I Met Your Mother” (one of the most underrated shows on network TV), we’ve got some mileage left in the comedy tank. Oh, and I haven’t even jizzed in my pants yet over the New Zealand import “Summer Heights High!” Shit … This is seriously a never ending endeavor.

This shit’s concluding tomorrow, kids. Y’all come back now, y’hear?


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Comments

Damages is the tits. This season is going to explode, with William Hurt, Marcia Gay Harden and Seth Bullock himself. Ooooooo I'm thrill-ed.

Posted by: coveredinbees at January 7, 2009 2:25 PM

Thanks Beckyloo, I thought I was going to have to continue giving How I Met Your Mother some love in these comment sections. I mean, a lil' sentence isn't much but I'll take it.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at January 7, 2009 2:25 PM

30 Rock love always makes me happy.

I'm interested in How I Met Your Mother, but haven't actually watched it yet. Maybe I'll Netflix-Rampage it after this season.

Posted by: Gabs at January 7, 2009 2:30 PM

Beckyloo, I agree with you on Weeds.

Nancy's character went down a rabbit hole of being a major player in human trafficking, heroine trafficking, falling in love with a crime boss/murderer, and there was but one time when you could say she had some inkling of a redeeming quality.

She went from being negligent in raising her children to being downright criminal.

It was like the major lesson of this season is that mary jane is in fact a gateway drug. You start off selling some harmless weed and look where you end up. Okay, that works... if that was the show's intention. I'm not sure that it was though. Did the show want us to come to hate Nancy?

Posted by: L.O.V.E. at January 7, 2009 2:30 PM

Barney is ... wait for it ...

Posted by: L.O.V.E. at January 7, 2009 2:36 PM

I agree with Beckylooo on her SNL props with two exceptions:

Keenan reminds me of Eddie Murphy in a fat suit, not in looks, but in his portrayals. Any way you look at it, it's still just Keenan.

Samberg continues to ruin everything he is in. The amount of overacting he does totally destroys any potential he has and makes me want to slap the shit out of him and tell him to just play it straight for once. That is why Mark Wahlberg talks to barnyard animals was good. He played it straight.

As an item of note, NPH is hosting this week.

Posted by: admin at January 7, 2009 2:38 PM

Damages is amazing. I just re-watched the last three episodes and yup, it's good TV. Not just entertaining (which is is), but well-written, well-acted, and well-directed. It's what I would hold up as really, really great television.

Posted by: Lollygagger at January 7, 2009 2:41 PM

I have to agree...Damages is pretty damned good. The way they told the story was pretty amazing, plus the whole Ray Fisk subplot of season 1 was heartbreaking. And let it be said that Glenn Close is an amazing bitch when she's asked to be.

Posted by: Mike R. at January 7, 2009 2:43 PM

I'm glad damages is good. I started watching the first couple episodes, but then I got distracted and let it fall by the wayside. I'll have to get back into it.

Posted by: Marra at January 7, 2009 2:47 PM

Don't leave me hanging L.O.V.E.!!

Posted by: Julie at January 7, 2009 2:48 PM

BSG wins the GoodGodDAMN award for Outstanding Achievement in Having the Highest Percentage of Cast Members Whose Shit I Would Hit Like Money Might Fall Out.

Posted by: firedmyass at January 7, 2009 2:50 PM

'Summer Heights High' is Australian, not Kiwi. It's hilarious.

I still watch Weeds, but yes, Nancy has become hard to like this season. Andy, on the other hand, has grown a bulge in his heart - and it's nice to watch.

Posted by: Tarn at January 7, 2009 2:51 PM

When did Jimmy Smits become a gigantor freak?

Posted by: EricD at January 7, 2009 2:52 PM

I have the biggest boner* for Kristen Wiig. I think she's insanely talented and funny as hell. Hope she explodes this year.


*My boners involve my boobs getting perky. Er.

Posted by: Sofía at January 7, 2009 2:52 PM

Admittedly, I haven't seen "Breaking Bad", so I can't make a "Damages" comparison. And flashy ads aside (which I haven't been seeing much of due to PVR), I feel this show has something going for it. Nice cliff-hanger at the end of S1, great writing, good characters that were (for the most part) well acted. Dan, if you don't like shows that have lawyers, I can totally understand that. Just wondering why the big hate on for Glenn Close? Did you even bother to watch Damages before reviewing it?

Posted by: Xtreme at January 7, 2009 2:55 PM

... legen ... wait for it ..

Posted by: L.O.V.E. at January 7, 2009 2:55 PM

I can deal with the BSG filler shit because when it's good it's just so damned good.

Damages never got me to tune in past the first couple of episodes - but since I read William Hurt is joining, I might be tempted to give it a retry. Regardless, I can't see it being better than Breaking Bad. Bryan Cranston is so fantastic he almost makes me cry.

Posted by: Cindy at January 7, 2009 2:57 PM

SNL needs to pick up Keegan Michael Key now that the waste of airspace that is Mad TV has been cancelled. Not only is he visually perfect for Obama, but he's funnier than most of the current SNL cast and has great presence.

Posted by: Lucas at January 7, 2009 2:59 PM

I guess I'll also have to be satisfied with one sentence on How I Met Your Mother, even though it deserves a bit more than that. This last season especially has been incredible. Regis Philbin's guest appearance was absolutely priceless.

I was also a tad disappointed to see The Tudors missing from the discussion (unless I just missed it) but then I remembered that it's actually not a great show and I just have a weakness for over the top costumes.

Posted by: Edie at January 7, 2009 3:10 PM

... and I hope your not lactose intolerant ... DAIRY!

Posted by: L.O.V.E. at January 7, 2009 3:16 PM

I want everybody to know that I was just over at the pajiba music column and as usual I left a comment. Out of the blue TK attacks me for using the word "Homo" and suggested that I don't use that work again. Now I'm being censored, what the fuck is it of his business what the fuck I say?

Posted by: Pookie at January 7, 2009 3:16 PM

I love L.O.V.E.
And Pookie, it may be that TK impostor that has been around before.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at January 7, 2009 3:28 PM

Upon further investigation, no. That kinda seems like TK.
Whoa, I was defending Pookie for a minute there. Gotta step back and re-evaluate some things.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at January 7, 2009 3:31 PM

Dan, thank you for the Always Sunny mention; however, "Who Pooped the Bed?" was the weakest episode of the season. It was crass and unfunny. But no matter; I'll take the Gas Crisis & Erotic Life episodes over that one.

Posted by: Brie at January 7, 2009 3:32 PM

Dont let TK censor your words Pookie use your voice. Fuck TK !

Posted by: gilp at January 7, 2009 3:42 PM

I'll trade you Pookie, I posted the most awesomest list ever on the Potter book review, and no one even noticed.

*heavy sigh*

Hard work is so often unappreciated.

Posted by: Xtreme at January 7, 2009 3:51 PM

Brie

We can all agree that "The Day Man Cometh" was brilliance, right?

Think I'll go watch that between classes now.

Posted by: Jim at January 7, 2009 4:33 PM

Breaking Bad is hands down my favorite show of the year. Brian Cranston is so amazing in that show; I hoped that his Emmy win would give it more of a following, but I know maybe one or two other people who've heard of it, much less actually watched an episode.

Posted by: eat my shorts at January 7, 2009 4:43 PM

Thank you so much Optimus. One day I'll tell you what L.O.V.E. stands for.

I love how, just by changing my name, there's a lot more love going around.

I was going to change my name to "Masturbator09", but I didn't want to pigeon-hole myself. And I think some bass fisher is already using that name.

Posted by: L.O.V.E. at January 7, 2009 5:14 PM

"The Day Man Cometh" was pretty good, definitely the best of the season, but I still don't think that's saying much. I'm a rabid "It's Always Sunny" fan, so it pains me to say this, but it's never gotten back to the glory of the first two seasons. It's developed the same problem as "Family Guy" and "The Simpsons"; instead of being character-based and letting the situations evolve from their foibles, like the comparable "Seinfeld" or "Curb Your Enthusiasm", the show has gone down wacky way. They've gone too far in abandoning any grounding in reality, and the fourth season feels like a caricature of the first.

Posted by: Geetch at January 7, 2009 6:37 PM

airlocking Cally may constitute mishandling the situation to you Dan, but it filled me with glee. i had to rewind and watch that scene over and over. i will admit that it would have been nice if they had shown her dealing with the situation, but i didn't really want to watch Cally do anything but die, so i can't complain.

i think that Breaking Bad and Damages are both good shows, but they're so different it's hard to compare them. i love Breaking Bad, but it i definitely have to be in the right mood to watch it. Bryan Cranston is amazing! i watched the first season of Damages in 2 days and i must say it was a very well done, consistent season. it was somewhat predictable, but i really enjoyed watching the story unfold--even if i knew exactly what was going to happen.

i really like Don Draper and Nancy Botwin. they both have some serious issues, but i enjoy watching both of them fuck up other people's lives while stumbling through their own. they are mostly clueless, but their moments of insight are outstanding. both actors play their roles perfectly. the characters are actually pretty similar, in that they probably have personality disorders--well, they would if they were real people--but i don't find either of them unlikeable. Cally was unlikeable.

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Posted by: Amy at January 7, 2009 10:56 PM

SUMMER HEIGHT'S HIGH IS AUSTRALIAN!!!!!! not from NZ...ignorant americans

Posted by: loz at January 8, 2009 4:43 AM

Chill out, loz. You povo skanks really do need a sense of humour.

Posted by: firedmyass at January 8, 2009 11:10 AM