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Rather than having someone post their meandering thoughts on the last year in television, we opted to have four people provide lots of meandering thoughts on the year in TV. Welcome to Pajiba’s Roundtable on the Television Year that Was. If you missed Part 1, go get some. If you’re all caught up, carry on….

Sarah:

Where to begin? I mostly agree with Seth, and while I have watched the first two seasons of “Mad Men,” I still can’t really tell you what the show’s about. But it sure looks pretty. I agree with Daniel in that the writer’s strike was evil and most of the shows worth watching are on cable, including the just-ended “The Wire” from David Simon, Long May He Live. And Beckylooo, well … thanks for working really hard to save the world? Glad you enjoyed working on “The Shield.” I’ll get around to it.

Aside from “The Wire,” “Lost,” “Battlestar,” “Daisies,” “The Office” and “30 Rock” (I thought Jen Aniston’s bit on the show was great), the TV series that kept me going through the crapfest that was 2008 were Showtime’s “The Tudors” and “Weeds” and HBO’s “True Blood.” natalie-dormer.jpgIn its second season, “The Tudors” really hit its stride and upped the emotional intensity surrounding a young Henry VIII and that whole breaking-up-the-Catholic-church thing so he could get a divorce, then killing the woman he got a divorce for so he could marry a cute blonde. Drama! Jonathan Rhys Meyers as Henry is brilliant, but Natalie Dormer stole many a scene as Anne Boylen and she deserves as much award recognition as Meyers gets. While the series may soon rival the “Harry Potter” films for the title of Most Famous British Actors In One Place, it’s been sorely overlooked.

For its fourth season, “Weeds” broke the mold of a suburban mom selling pot to neighbors by sending Mary Louise Parker’s Nancy and her two sons and brother-in-law away from their home (that Nancy kinda helped burn down) and into new business opportunities elsewhere in southern California. Definitely darker and more revealing (you see a lot of Mary Louise), the show delves deeper into the dilemma of Nancy’s moral compromises and what she’ll do to keep her family together, or better yet, alive. Elizabeth Perkins and Kevin Nealon are consistently funny in supporting roles, but along with the show’s wit comes a dose of social commentary on issues ranging from illegal immigration to the handling of the American drug war to the political corruption seeping its way through Mexico and, often, into the U.S. Considering more than 5,000 people in Mexico died in 2008 in drug-related violence, “Weeds,” which bills itself as a comedy, is dealing with more pertinent issues by looking at the drug trade and its cartels in Mexico and southern California than most nightly newscasts, and in doing so is one of the smartest shows on the air.

As for “True Blood,” I mostly enjoy what Alan Ball is doing with the Charlaine Harris novels of waitress Sookie Stackhouse, and while the show had a bumpy start, halfway through the first season, I was completely hooked. It helps that I read the guilty-pleasure novels and tune in to see where the writers will actually take the characters, but “True Blood” offers something different than most shows on TV — a quirky, dark, realistic small Southern town whose inhabitants have to figure out how to deal with the pesky vampires living next door. It’s an interesting concept with a compelling cast, especially Stephen Moyer as the vampire Bill. Some of it is campy, yes, but some of the episodes’ sequences are downright beautiful. It may be in a different form than Ball’s “Six Feet Under,” but the themes aren’t far apart. Also: As someone who grew up in Texas and lives in Alabama, I will vouch for the authenticity of the accents.

Seth is right: We are living in an age where our information and entertainment can’t keep up with our technology, and many media have been and will continue to be dramatically altered to flow with the digital revolution. But the Golden Age isn’t coming to an end — we won’t let it. There are still gems on the tube, people. Let the Philistines have “Two and a Half Men” and whateverthehell is the latest reality craze. We have a few great shows. Isn’t that enough?

And Seth: You’re still my favorite whore.

Seth:

Sarah, good on you for reminding me about “Weeds.” Because, yeah, we sure as hell did get to see a lot of Mary Louise. Yum. Although, I have to otherwise kinda disagree with you. I thought Season Four was an improvement over Season Three (although I wants my Conrad back!), but it was still lacking. I’m ok with comedies also doing some serious stuff, but this show is not a drama, it’s a satire. And if it doesn’t bring some laughs, the serious bits don’t work (for me, at least). And I found it disappointingly lacking on the laughs. Same for the second season of “Californication” and the last bajillion seasons of “Entourage” (although that doesn’t even have the excuse of trying to be serious — it’s just turned to poo).

license-to-drive.jpgMeanwhile, for someone who just spent the last half-year singing the national praises of Hope, who’da thunk Beckylooo would be such a TV pessimist? (Not to mention, you snidely refer to License to Drive like it’s not awesome. The two Coreys, Carol Kane and Heather Graham in the trunk of a car for 80 minutes? TV could only be so lucky!) I can’t much disagree with your take on “True Blood” — sorry Sarah, that show’s bad. I watched every flipping second of it, and while there were a few ok bits here and there, and some very purty shots, overall, it’s a steaming pile. But Beckylooo, if you get past Jimmy Smits’ facial hair, you’ll find that he gave an aces-up performance, especially as the season moved on and things got a bit silly.

Dan, I feel you on “The Mentalist,” although I’m not sure why. I dig Simon Baker, but am otherwise lukewarm on the cast (I find The Craft chick annoying as ever, and the “Reunion” chick is as stale as she was on that show). I also don’t care for the slightly ongoing storyline about the Red Smile serial killer or whatever the hell his name is. And yet, despite watching very few procedurals on a regular basis, this one has managed to stick in my weekly rotation. Best I can figure, even with the above complaints and the fact that you can usually see the end of each episode, or at least the general spin, coming miles in advance, there’s something just kind of comfortable about this show. No fancy math or science. Just a basic whodunnit with an interesting central character.

This is enough rambling for one e-mail, so I won’t answer the most interesting question to come out of this discussion so far, to my mind, which is whether “Mad Men” is overrated. I’ll simply say I think not, and leave it at that (for the moment, at least).

Beckylooo:

Oh “Weeds!” Of course. (Apologies if I’m jumping the line here, Daniel). Season 4 was most def an improvement on the belly flop that was 3, but I think this shows best days are behind it. I’ll keep watching if only for Celia and Doug but the show long ago lost its balance between heart and humor. It’s no longer about how far a mom will go to support/protect her family (if it ever was). It’s a show about a bunch of selfish, asshole, narcissists who’ll do anything to get off. Their kids are only an afterthought. There’s lots of comedy to be mined there — case and point: Celia and Isabelle. But the Botwin side of the equation has become increasingly bleak as Nancy’s selfishness sets up shop in the land of the totally irredeemable. If she gave a shit about her family, she’d have stuck with the front-of-house gig at the maternity store but her addiction to adrenaline was a tad too powerful. Thank god for Andy. Who knew he’d become the heart of the show? And yes Seth, Conrad is deeply missed. Along with Heylia.

And Sarah, mad respect to a fellow Texan but if Anna Paquin’s accent is legit, I’m packing for a long weekend with my boyfriend Ryan Gosling.

jimmy-smits.jpgI just finished “Dexter” last night and I’m sorry Seth but BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Worst. Season. Yet. Totally flimsy set up (why the fuck did the Skinner give two shits about Freebo again? Money? Yeah, whatever. It would have been far more interesting if the Freebo connection was a coincidence and he was just (spoiler alert) a mad man tree trimmer dude.) And I saw every twist coming from 8,000 nautical miles away. Not one “Holy Shit” moment all season. Oh yeah, and the disaster that was Jimmy Smits facial hair can not be mitigated by his ham-tastic performance. Thank the lord Dex (*spoiler alert*) killed his ass. Here’s hoping they jump forward 5 or so years next season and Dexter has to contend with the budding darkness in his demon spawn when dead puppies start showing up in the back yard.

And “Mad Men” … So here’s what it’s about (and I say this having only seen a fraction of Season 2): the personal and cultural ramifications of the shift from a “Need” to a “Want” economy, centering around a character created to embody the engine of said shift. It’s overrated because, instead of just telling us honest, compelling stories about people muddling through a rather epic epoch, it spends too much energy building big flashing neon signs to make sure it’s underlying theme is illuminated. It’s not a bad show. It’s just forever trying to prove how smart it is, rather than owning up to the fact that it’s a glacially paced soap opera dressed up in really fabulous clothes. In fact, coming full circle, “Mad Men” is really the beginning of “Weeds.” Don Draper might as well be Nancy’s dad.

In related news, I highly recommend the BBC documentary “The Century of the Self,” which I was given for Christmas and is now the lens through which I view all pop culture. At least this month.

Lastly, LTD was hardly the worst of the 80s fare, it was just the first that popped into my head and my least fave of the Corey oeuvre, but my point stands. I’m not saying TV’s hopeless…. There will always be good shit to offset the bad. But it’s going to be a long, long time before we live in a landscape as rich and exciting as the one we have for the last 10/15 years. We’re about to lose “BSG” and “Lost.” “FNL” is all but dead. “Sopranos,” “Six Feet,” “The Wire,” “Deadwood,” “The Shield” … Name me one show that comes close to picking up the mantle dropped by any one of those shows. Unless it’s “The Tudors,” which I’ve yet to see, you can’t. No one’s making it. (Though we’ll see what “Damages” brings Season 2. Strong show. Lots of potential.) I’m sure “The Mentalist” is satisfying, or something. But procedurals, while entertaining, will NEVER be as gratifying on a grand scale as a well written, character driven drama. And in this economy, the only thing that makes sense to Net Execs is “CSI: Hoboken” and “Are You Smart Enough to Date My Mom?”

Now I have to go try to write some TV. I’m so screwed.

Will Beckylooo write some TV? Will Seth fantasize about Mary Louise Parker and Heather Graham getting it on together in the trunk of a car? Will Sarah begin sucking blood? Check back tomorrow for Part 3, where these questions and ten more creative, funny ones will all go unanswered.


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Comments

I'm torn on a lot of this post. I had some fun with True Blood, and it had nothing to do with all the sex scenes. Wait, turns out it might. And if you've read any of my comments in the past, you'll know my feelings on Dexter and The Shield (strong love). But I notice not one mention of Boston Legal? I've seen every episode (and maybe I should be ashamed, screw you), and laughed my ass off. It at least high a higher level of sophisticated humour than anything else on T.V., and never once took itself seriously, even though it could have. They broke the 4th wall more than once, referenced their ratings, the writers strike, their schedule. And even managed to "jump the shark" before it all came to an end for good.

So long Mr. Spader, hope to see you soon.

Posted by: Xtreme at January 6, 2009 2:22 PM

I actually thought that last season's Entourage wat the best since Season 2. Maybe that's not saying a lot, but the show definately showed improvement and a move towards a right direction. Plus, there's Ari and Lloyd - how can you go wrong with that?

Posted by: sosumi at January 6, 2009 2:23 PM

"It at least high a higher "

Argh!! Fucked uped typed! Shited! Thatd should'ed beened "had"!

(must post before someone else does!)

Posted by: Xtreme at January 6, 2009 2:27 PM

The past season of Dexter was the worst season of the three, no argument. It was still great TV, though, better than 90% of the rest of TV. And I loved Jimmy Smits' performance, though I must acknowledge that that may be a matter of personal taste.

I do hope that S3 was just a glitch and not a trend, and that S4, when it arrives, is better.

Posted by: Jerce at January 6, 2009 2:30 PM

"Merthaydeeeees!"

Posted by: Jay at January 6, 2009 2:33 PM

(though you forgot Nina Siemaszko, Seth)

Posted by: Jay at January 6, 2009 2:36 PM

"...and "30 Rock" (I thought Jen Aniston's bit on the show was great)..."


That's IT, this person has ZERO credibility. If it were my call? I'd have you escorted out of the premises and beaten to death.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 6, 2009 2:39 PM

I second the arrival of a downcycle. BSG gone in another couple months, Shield gone. Hell even my "eh, at least it's not a procedural, and ooh spaceships" filler on Friday nights is going away this week for good (Stargate Atlantis). Heroes is worse than dead at this point.

You know what my Tivo is full of right now? Food Network.

I've got Burn Notice, House and Fringe ... but fun as they are, none of those cross the line into the "yeah I'll remember that episode ten years from now" territory of the great ones.

Posted by: stipe42 at January 6, 2009 2:39 PM

stipe, my apologies on the Food Network thing. Ouch. Some recommendations? If you liked The Shield, check out Sons of Anarchy (then tell me if it's any good, I don't get that channel, waiting for DVD). But only if you like Ron Pearlman. Which I do. And if you like the realistic thing, check out Generation Kill, it's only (I think) 8 episodes, but it's an interesting watch.

Posted by: Xtreme at January 6, 2009 2:45 PM

"Lastly, LTD was hardly the worst of the 80s fare, it was just the first that popped into my head and my least fave of the Corey oeuvre"

Really, Beckylooo? You place Dream a Little Dream ahead of License to Drive? Whoa.

I'll stand up and say that I enjoyed Dexter Season 3. I thought Jimmy Smits did a great job, and I'll concede that the standalone 'stache's partnering with the soul patch WAS EXCEPTIONALLY UNFORTUNATE. I think Dexter Season 2 was the least enjoyable of the three so far (I'll never be able to erase the memory of Lila saying "Dex-tah"). And yet, Dexter is still better than most of the stuff on TV now.

I'm pretty much done watching first run episodes of any new TV series because I can't handle the aggravation of seeing them get canned. I really liked Jericho. I really liked Journeyman. And now, Pushing Daisies gets the ax. If moronic TV execs can't realize good televsion when they see it, I won't watch it.

Bring on more Two & A Half Men and According to Jim!

Posted by: JH at January 6, 2009 2:50 PM

Wow, I'm really starting to wonder if I'm missing something here. With the exception of a couple of episodes of Dexter and Californication (which I enjoyed), I haven't watched any of the shows mentioned.

I tend to watch Discovery Channel, National Geographic, Food Network and the movie channels. I may just have to reprogram the PVR, but then I would have to delete some porn to make room. Oh the internal conflict!

Posted by: admin at January 6, 2009 3:02 PM

Sons of Anarchy got off to a bumpy start but once it got going it was pretty good. Season 1 was really all about getting to the final 2 minutes of the season finale. With that ending the fuse is lit and now I have a feeling it is really going to kick into gear in season 2. Katey Sagal and Ron Perlman are great, but the whole cast has really got their characters down now. It's not The Shield yet, but there is a lot of potential there and Season 1 is definitely worth watching.

Posted by: TylerDFC at January 6, 2009 3:13 PM

Thanks TylerDFC, I'm just going to have to buy or S1 while I PVR S2 next Sept. Assuming they bother to keep it around. Although I hear Damages S2 is going to happen, so maybe the network has some collective brain somewhere in hiding from R.E.A.M.E.D. Disease (Retarded tv Executives Assures Mass Enjoyment Denied).

Posted by: Xtreme at January 6, 2009 3:30 PM

The children of intelligent mothers who are looking for potential boyfriends on a game show could help bring back the idea that humanity is relatively intelligent.

However, smart children will realize they should let their mom do their own thing and keep it far away from broadcast TV. So, the only other canidates for such a show would be drunk, trailer trash like Kim Bassinger in 8 Mile, but not nearly as pretty as Kim Bassinger is, even at her worse.

Posted by: Jim at January 6, 2009 3:42 PM

It's a show about a bunch of selfish, asshole, narcissists who'll do anything to get off

you say that like it's a bad thing! so Nancy is selfish and totally clueless, nobody is perfect. i can't help but like her. although i miss Conrad, Silas, Andy, and now Esteban are pretty nummy, and i can't resist good man-candy.

i'm still working on season 3 of Dexter, although i want to get it out of the way before Lost and BsG come back. and thanks for reminding me that i need to watch season 2 of The Tudors.

Posted by: pq at January 6, 2009 3:47 PM

Xtrme: Damages S2 starts Wednesday, Sons Of Anarchy was indeed renewed for another season but no announcement on when it is coming back. Fall 09 is a good bet.

I was really hating Weeds season 3 because Nancy was so selfish and unlikable. Then in Season 4 her total failure as a mom and her growing fight with her conscience made her more sympatehtic. I was never sure if the show KNEW Nancy was a selfish prick, in Season 4 it became clear that it does and it spent significant screen time with Nancy trying to atone (or at least come to terms with) for her various sins and weaknesses. It was definitely not as funny but the show still had it's comedy moments (usually anything from Celia and Doug) when there wasn't graphic torture via belt sander on screen.

Posted by: TylerDFC at January 6, 2009 3:59 PM

Yes, JH I do in fact find Dream a Little Dream to be far superior to License to Drive. Then again, I haven't seen either since I was 14 so, there's that.

Posted by: Beckylooo at January 6, 2009 4:05 PM

Becks, I have to agree with JH on this one, hands down. I grew up with the Cory's (yes, I'll admit it!), and LTD is still stuck somewhere in the grey matter that I haven't yet eradicated with booze or drugs. Mind you, I'm still trying. Say what you want, I'm no quitter!

Posted by: Xtreme at January 6, 2009 4:31 PM

I'm surprised there hasn't been more mention of "House" given how popular it is. Personally I enjoy the show but once you see one episode you've seen half the season sense they are all the same.

No one at all has mention "The Big Bang Theory". A very odd show that I enjoy a lot.

Posted by: EricD at January 6, 2009 4:38 PM

EricD, I hope you don't touch that dial and stick around to watch "How I Met Your Mother". Get to it, Whore! And Send some Love to "It's Always Sunny" when you're at it! Where's the pedestrian comedies! Get off your irony towers and give me some gratification for watching these things!

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at January 6, 2009 4:50 PM

oh my god. maybe because it's been around so long we all take it for granted now, but "Southpark" just had one of its best seasons ever.

Posted by: EricD at January 6, 2009 4:54 PM

Ooh, Always Sunny in Philadelphia, yes!

It's got that Seinfeldian vibe of pond scum characters doomed to failure, and as such it is okay to root for them.

Posted by: stipe42 at January 6, 2009 5:01 PM

Just letting you guys know that I find these things entertaining as hell to read...so you should do more of them, even if only for me.
I'm also jealous as hell that I'm not in on the roundtable.

Posted by: jamiepants at January 6, 2009 5:19 PM

I'm a Pajiba lurker but I have to come out to say ...No love for How I Met Your Mother? ...Really?

Huh. Frankly it's the only show left that still makes me laugh on a consistent basis. Even The Office is failing at that these days.

Posted by: Edie at January 6, 2009 5:43 PM

You know what my favourite show on TV right now is? Greek. Yep, the dorky, stupid ABCFamily show about frat houses. You know why? Because when I want to chill out for an hour some evening and watch TV, I can't resist the allure of pretty people doing vaguely interesting things with some snarky one-liners and vaguely catchy alterna-rock. I like a little more character and ongoing plot than any procedurals (save Cold Case, for which I have an irrational love) can provide, but I don't have the stomach any more for watching new shows that will undoubtedly die early.

Then there's the ones that do become popular (or at least, popular among the 'cool' kids), which tend to be ones that demand emotional involvement on a large scale and a level of interest that I'm just not sure I can give - the little bits I've heard about Mad Men, the Wire et al smack of something that will leave me an emotionally drained husk, and that's not a level of energy I can expend on TV right now. Hence, pretty people doing undemanding things. Does that make me such a bad person?

Posted by: Shay at January 6, 2009 5:51 PM

Thank You, Edie! Now let's see, how does Pookie do this... Err.. Is there a Mr. Edie? *wink*

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at January 6, 2009 6:04 PM

"...and "30 Rock" (I thought Jen Aniston's bit on the show was great)..."

I thought her perky bits were nice, but I hope 30 Rock doesn't become the Next Will and Grace with constant cameos.

Posted by: L.O.V.E. at January 6, 2009 6:13 PM

Beckyloo is definitely crazy-insane. Besides--Billy Ocean vs. Michael Damian? No fucking contest.

Posted by: Jay at January 6, 2009 6:40 PM

I mean I tried to watch those shows on broadcast t.v. that the guys from the roundtable mentioned, but they just don't provide the requisite jerk off material like I'm accustomed to with HBO. Give me some vodka and cranberry juice and a "Cathouse" marathon and I'm in heaven.

Posted by: Pookie at January 6, 2009 6:42 PM

Here's all I know (or need to know) about Mad Men: Christina Hendricks is in there. Hmmm...redhead...built like that...hmmm....

If she was getting naked, I'd watch every show.

Posted by: Fredo at January 6, 2009 6:46 PM

Re: Weeds "is dealing with more pertinent issues by looking at the drug trade and its cartels in Mexico and southern California than most nightly newscasts, and in doing so is one of the smartest shows on the air."

I don't know, you have the corrupt TJ mayor who sells drugs to the rich to feed his poor, two gringos operating as coyotes, a white woman who sticks her nose where it doesn't belong but is miraculously unscathed (though the cartel has no problem torturing federal agents)...

For the last two years people, especially cops, have been murdered at an extraordinary rate in TJ. In this scenario, it would be Nancy's BF ordering all those killings. I know its a comedy, but it all seemed very naive and out of touch. Maybe thats supposed to mirror Nancy, but girl been pushing hard for a few years now. She knows the game.

There is satire and then there is just laziness.

Posted by: L.O.V.E. at January 6, 2009 6:50 PM

I LOOOVED season 4 of weeds, and I thought it was hilarious - Andy is the funniest, skeeziest, most awesome charcter on television at the moment (to my mind).

*Mild spoilers form this season for anyone who has not yet watched it*

What about when Shane is caught masturbating to the pictures of his mum? How Andy pretends to be Moses in his coyote work? How Nancy urinates in her car... which turns out to be caught on film by Guillermo? These things (and many others) were hilarious

Posted by: JJ McClay at January 6, 2009 6:59 PM

Hahahah! Shay, I love Greek. I feel ridiculous, but I do. I watched a marathon of the first season, I guess right before the 2nd one started, and I got totally hooked on it. I love Dale, he's freaing hilarious, and I started out thinking he would annoy me. Also, I have quite the crush on Cappie, as he is delicious. Roar.

How I Met Your Mother is one of the very few shows I actually go out of my way to watch, and will actually DVR if I'm not going to be home. Also, my sister and her husband love it. Their gifts to their wedding party in June included sweatshirts that proclaimed the date "legendary". True Story.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at January 6, 2009 7:00 PM

Sorry about the accidental double post. Ignore the above!

I LOOOVED season 4 of Weeds, and I thought it was hilarious - Andy is the funniest, skeeziest, most awesome charcter on television at the moment (to my mind).

***Mild spoilers from this season for anyone who has not yet watched it***

For example: What about when Shane is caught masturbating to the pictures of his mum? How Andy pretends to be Moses in his coyote work? How Nancy urinates in her car... which turns out to be caught on film by Guillermo? These things were highlarious, people.

I thought that the progression of Nancy's relationship with the Mayor guy was a bit disturbing, but then everyone around her seems to find it disturbing too, and in the finale, when she's driving in the car, she seems to have some sort of realization that she's being a bad mother when she dictates Silas's birthday card.

Also, I thought the scene where she confronts Shane re the masturbation pictures and Silas re screwing the MILF was one of the most brilliant scenes I've seen on TV this year - spliced together so that the two parallel confrontations are blurred and you can see just how big their mummy issues are.

And, I loved the moment where Doug says Andy loves Nancy, and he denies it, but then later in the bathtub scene, you can just see it all slowly starting to click with him. Justin Kirk is a damn fine actor.

Also, I couldn't BELIEVE how much of Mary Louise Parker we saw this season. From those nude photos to the Mayor sex scenes to the final episode's bathtub scene. She has an absolutely rocking body, but I was still so surprised that she did it.

Posted by: JJ McClay at January 6, 2009 7:10 PM

Optimus, I will be checking out the first three season of "It's Always Sunny" starting next week. I was on the fense about "How I Met Your Mother" but with all the love in the comments I better check it out.

and wth?? "Bring on more Two & A Half Men and According to Jim!" I think JH needs an intervention.

Posted by: EricD at January 6, 2009 7:29 PM

JJ, I agree with you on the Nancy/Andy dynamic, and the Shane arc with the two pseudo-goth girls and then his mommy issues were hilarious.

But to go from "Nancy sells pot to rich surbanites" to "the gringa is now a capitan in la familia" is a bit much.

Prostitution is legal in TJ. How was her ass not sold to rich Federales? You want to get into what a mother will do for her children and to maintain her lifestyle and you dont go down that road?

Posted by: L.O.V.E. at January 6, 2009 7:30 PM

Shay and AvB i watch Greek too. of course i will watch just about anything--except 97% of the current batch of sitcoms and procedurals--so i don't really count. i'm old enough to be the characters' much older sister, but that has never stopped me from enjoying a teen dramedy. plus, Rusty is so adorable i wouldn't be able to resist even if i had some other objections.

also, i want to second jamiepants' praise. of course i always like tv posts since they allow me to de-lurk and they give me Netflix ideas. (is it de-lurk or delurk--or is it an imaginary word that doesn't have to follow any rules?)

Posted by: pq at January 6, 2009 7:39 PM

made-up--not imaginary. time to go home.

Posted by: pq at January 6, 2009 7:42 PM

I like "breaking bad" a lot.

Posted by: kc at January 6, 2009 9:10 PM

I just discovered The Middleman. Feels refreshing after dragging myself through Heroes 3.

Posted by: Adere at January 7, 2009 2:10 AM

Agreed. Season 4 of Weeds was a lot better than Season 3, but not as good as Season 2. Good on them for having the balls to mix it up, though.

Posted by: emotionalpedant at January 7, 2009 4:49 AM

EricD - I was channelling my inner TV Exec when I said "bring on more Two & A Half Men..."

Posted by: JH at January 7, 2009 8:50 AM

I can't believe that none of you have mentioned ' Brotherhood' ( Showtime ). Its the best series that no one watched. Jason Isaacs gives a barnstorming performance. The third season was fantastic and had an series ending ever bit as good as The Wire & The Shield.

Posted by: Alex the not so odd at January 7, 2009 9:42 AM

And still no love for The Middleman? What a pity, some of the funniest, smartest writing on television and because it's on ABC Family nobody gives it any respect.

Posted by: Adam C at January 7, 2009 12:16 PM

I'll second Adam C and Adere: I absolutely adored The Middleman! It was by far my favorite show of 2008. Every episode was pitch-perfect and left me feeling giddily happy. It's too bad it wasn't on the SciFi channel, maybe paired with Eureka. I think it would have had a better chance of receiving the attention it deserved.

Posted by: ariadne at January 7, 2009 6:41 PM