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Try to See It My Way, Only Time Will Tell If I Am Right or I Am Wrong

“Lost: The Constant” (S4/E5) Recap / Daniel Carlson

TV Reviews | March 3, 2008 | Comments (81)


“One end of this string represents your birth; the other end, your death. You tie the ends together and your life is a loop. Ball the loop and the days of your life touch each other out of sequence. Therefore, leaping from one point in the string to another—”
“Would move you back and forth within your own lifetime.”

I received another frantic text message from a friend in another time zone on the night of “The Constant,” the fifth episode of the fourth season of “Lost.” It’s not that I’m internationally renowned; it’s just that the typical postcollegiate diaspora has spread my friends far and wide. She wrote: “Lost is so great/crazy. Seriously it’s going to f with your mind this week. Also I cry at Lost almost as much as Friday Night Lights. … Seriously I’m in love with this show.” It’s a special kind of irony that a friend of mine living two or three hours in the future will often alert me to the pleasures of an episode of a show that deals fundamentally with time shifting, and which this week takes its greatest and most daring detour yet into that greatest of genre standbys, time travel. “The Constant” was a flat-out fantastic episode, and like the best of “Lost,” it managed to deepen the mythology of the series, enhance the characters’ relationships, and function as en exciting, prime example of engaging storytelling. There were no flashforwards or flashbacks per se in the episode, because Desmond wound up jumping back and forth in time himself. It’s a wonderful way to use the series’ sawhorse of shifting time periods and making it fresh by keeping Desmond’s consciousness intact between the jumps, which in turns pulls the viewer further into the show and makes them an participant with an even more active than usual stake in the story’s outcome. But in short: It’s just a damn good episode.

The episode opens without a “previously on” recap, which is rare and maybe unprecedented for the series. (Somebody look that up for me.) Desmond and Sayid are flying with Frank on the chopper on their way to the freighter. Desmond is staring at his Penny photo and looking pensive, while Sayid looks like he’s planning for possible hostage situations upon arrival. Sayid notices that Frank is navigating by use of a cheat sheet Daniel gave him, which is just a small scrap from a yellow legal pad with a crude sketch of their vector. Sayid, understandably concerned about Frank’s techniques, asks him about the paper, but Frank tells him to can it, and reiterates this when Sayid points out that they’re headed for a large thunderhead. Frank does his best to stay on the course Daniel laid out for him at the end of “The Economist,” but he winds up veering off the path for a bit. Desmond grabs his seat to steady himself and bam — he’s on his back in a barracks with the Scottish army, and the sergeant is bellowing at him to get out of his rack and join his fellow soldiers. The sergeant asks what’s up, and Desmond responds he was having a weird dream about being in a helicopter in a storm. Henry Ian Cusick, who plays Desmond, is perfect in the transition, using his eyes to transmit the confusion and disbelief Demond’s feeling, making it clear that (a) even if he hadn’t spoken, this is obviously the same Desmond from the chopper, and (b) something’s happened in his mind to reset his memories, making the past the present and the present just a dream of the future. And all this happens in maybe seven seconds. Outside, the sergeant has the men do push-ups and crunches in the rain, at which point Desmond flashes back to the chopper. In a panic, he tries to escape, and when Sayid attempts to calm him, Desmond wheels on him and yells, “Who are you? How do you know my name?

Back on Hell Island, Jack and Juliet are getting impatient with Daniel and Charlotte. Charlotte repeats that she doesn’t know anything, but Juliet totally calls her out for not being worried, which is curious. Daniel cracks and tells Jack and Juliet what we already know, which is that the perception of time for people on the island is “not necessarily” accurate. Daniel says that the chopper crew is probably fine, unless Frank strayed from the path Daniel laid out, in which case “there might be side effects.” Out on the chopper, these effects are making themselves known: Desmond still doesn’t know where he is, or why. They land on board the freighter, called the Kahana, and are met by two thuggish-looking guys who turn out to be named Keamy (really?) and Omar. Keamy’s pissed that Frank brought some of the Flight 815 survivors back to the boat, but his concerns get back-burnered when Desmond starts to freak out again. Keamy tells Sayid they’re gonna escort Desmond down to sickbay, and he makes Sayid stay up on the deck. Sayid, luscious man locks blown by the ocean breeze, reluctantly agrees. Desmond shouts, “I’m not supposed to be here!” But in the middle of his declaration, he jumps again to the rain-soaked Scottish regiment, finishing his sentence while his sergeant shouts at him. Again, the episode is smart in the way it both enforces the cut from one time period to another — the ambient noise of the ship and even the nondiegetic music stops abruptly — while maintaining the continuity of Desmond’s character — he starts speaking in one time and finishes in another, and the tracking shot that was revolving around him on the boat continues its path in the rainy field, making for a transition that’s smooth and jarring all at once.

Desmond discusses what’s going on with his friend Billy, and he maintains that what’s been going on was more real than just a dream. Desmond remembers having a photo of Penny on the boat, and he goes to call her at a pay phone, but before he gets there, he jumps back to the boat. The opening credits aren’t even done yet, and already the episode has exploded any expectations about structure or method. Keamy and Omar escort Desmond down to the sickbay, which is just a couple of cots in a room that will never be hygienic enough for medicinal purposes. They shut the door and run, and Desmond turns to see a man — Fisher Stevens, who’s been doing all the talking on the sat phone with the castaways — strapped down in a bed across the room. The man raises his head and says, “It’s been happening to you, too, hasn’t it?” This is pretty much the last thing you ever want to hear from a man who’s been handcuffed to a bed.

Back up on the deck, Sayid is scoping out the digs and coming to the silent conclusion that the freighter is not a place he wants to spend a lot of time. Frank stonewalls him on info, especially when Sayid brings up his concern that they took off from the island at sunset and landed at noon. Sayid gets the sat phone in exchange for his pistol, and finally calls Jack, who’s been very worried. Jack puts him on speaker, and Sayid relates to the listening group that Desmond is wigging out, which makes Daniel bow his head in total guilt and understanding. Daniel asks if Desmond has been exposed to high levels of radiation or electromagnetism, which stumps Jack and Juliet, but makes me pretty sure that the giant purple explosion from a couple seasons ago was as unhealthy as it looked. Daniel says that people can get “confused” traveling to and from the island, and he states that it’s not amnesia.

Down in the sickbay, Fisher wakes up and starts rambling again. A doctor, Ray, comes in and promptly injects him with some kind of sedative to put him under before turning and inspecting Desmond. He flashes a light in Desmond’s eyes, which seemingly triggers another jump: While the doctor is speaking, Desmond is suddenly back in the rainy past, picking up his change on the ground outside the phone booth. He steps inside and calls Penny, who’s not in the mood to talk to her ex, especially after he’s dumped her and now calls up acting like he’s confused by his involuntary time travel. He asks to come and see her, but she refuses, and before he can get much further, he jumps back to the ship, finishing his sentence while talking to the doc. Sayid and Frank barge in with the sat phone, saying that Daniel needs to talk to Desmond. The doctor hits the alarm as Desmond takes the phone and listens to Daniel begin to explain the wacky world of temporal fluxes. Daniel asks Desmond what year he thinks it is, to which Desmond responds, “What do you mean, what year do I think it is? It’s 1996!” Jack and Juliet look concerned, but Daniel takes this with disturbing grace. Desmond tells Daniel he’s supposed to be in Scotland, and Daniel tells Desmond that the next time he goes, he needs to get on a train and go to Oxford University to meet Daniel and tell him to “set the device to 2.342 … and it must be oscillating at 11 Hz.” Daniel tells Desmond to say that he knows about Eloise, whoever that is, as a shibboleth when he gets to Oxford. Keamy and Omar break in to stop the call, but Desmond jumps before they reach him.

He awakes to find himself trapped in the past, facing mirror images that are not his own sitting in the phone booth he’d used to call Penny. He looks immediately at his hand, where he’d written the numbers Daniel gave him to remember, and they’re not there. This is important because it establishes what Daniel will explain in a few minutes anyway. (“Lost” is nothing if not devoted to its periodic habit of showing something and then explaining it in great detail as if the showing had never happened.) Anyway, the missing ink — coupled with the earlier sight of Fisher slipping in and out of a coma — affirms that Desmond’s consciousness, and not his body, is what’s making the leap from one time period to another; he can’t change his appearance or take anything with him beyond what’s in his head. He stands up and a few seconds later is striding across the lawn at Oxford, which is admittedly one of the episode’s concessions to the suspension of disbelief; Desmond (literally) doesn’t have the time to wonder what’s going on, and he needs to meet up with Daniel anyway, so he goes. He finds an even more Dahmerish version of Daniel and tells him about his time traveling issues. Daniel thinks it’s a set-up from colleagues, and his brush-off is a nice meta-nod to the episode as a whole: “Don’t you think my esteemed colleagues could have come up with something a little more original? What kind of prank is that? A time paradox.” He shuffles away, but Desmond mentions the numbers and that he knows about the flux capacitorEloise, which totally works.

They head off to Daniel’s office to try and fix things. Daniel asks if his future self remembered their 1996 meeting, and Desmond says no. Desmond asks if what they’re doing is changing the future, to which Daniel responds, “You can’t change the future.” He puts on a lead apron to safeguard against radiation and plucks a rat named Eloise from its cage and places it at the beginning of a large maze on his table. He fires up a machine hanging overhead and enters the numbers Desmond gave him, then blasts Eloise with a ray of pink radiation designed to “unstick (her) in time,” which made me regret using up all my Tralfamadorian references a couple recaps ago. Eloise looks dazed, and Daniel says, “She’s not back yet,” but she eventually comes to. Daniel opens the door to the maze and lets Eloise out, and she runs the thing flawlessly in just a few seconds. “It worked!” he yells, but Desmond doesn’t see the point. Daniel replies that he’s not going to teach Eloise how to run the maze for another hour, thus (apparently) confirming her jump forward in time and safe return. Of course, let’s hope Daniel remembers to actually teach her the course in the future so she can run it in the past. Daniel starts to explain to Desmond the whole only-your-consciousness-is-jumping thing, but Desmond starts getting testy and wants to know how this will help him. Daniel asks why he came back and came to Oxford, but Desmond says he doesn’t know, and adds that in the future Daniel is on an island. Daniel asks why he’d ever go to an island when Desmond jumps back to the ship, where the alarm is still going off.

Desmond and Sayid get locked in the sickbay, and Desmond grabs the doctor’s penlight and starts flashing it in his eyes, trying to self-induce another jump. At the mention of Desmond’s name, the man on the bed picks up his head and identifies himself as George Minkowski, the communications officer. Minkowski says that before he went Section 8 and got strapped to the bed, he was responsible for all calls to and from the ship, and he reveals that he occasionally received calls from Desmond’s ex, Penelope Widmore, but he was under orders never to answer them. So Penny knew about the boat somehow? She told Charlie she didn’t, and he even died communicating that message. So why was she calling them?

Desmond’s next jump happens during the commercial break: He wakes up back in Daniel’s Oxford office, where Daniel is working the chalkboard like a madman trying to figure everything out. Desmond says he was in the future again for maybe five minutes, and Daniel said he was out cold for 75. Daniel says that Desmond’s jumps are exponential, meaning it’s going to be harder for his consciousness to keep making the leaps. Desmond notices that Eloise is dead now, and Daniel shrugs it off and says it was probably a brain aneurysm. Daniel’s pretty cavalier about the whole life/death thing, but then again, he’s also pretty cozy with the idea of time travel, so maybe it’s just tough to shake him. Daniel hypothesizes that Eloise’s brain “short-circuited” because her consciousness lost the ability to distinguish which time period was its home. He says she needed an anchor, a constant, a familiar object or presence in both time periods that could hold her steady. Daniel says Desmond has no constant, and until he gets one, he won’t be able to control the jumps or settle down. Desmond figures out that the only thing similar in both eras is Penny, but when he tries to call her, he gets a message that her number is disconnected. He takes off down the stairwell in the hall, presumably to find her, but he passes out against the wall and jumps back to the ship.

Back in the present/future, Desmond tells Sayid that he needs to call Penny so that he can have a constant for his past/present. Minkowski, who’s now bleeding from the nose and looking awfully close to a messy end, tells Desmond and Sayid that somebody destroyed the radio equipment two days earlier, severing all ties with the mainland. “I probably could have fixed it,” Minkowski says, “but then I went nuts.” At least he’s forthcoming. Sayid and Desmond start to free Minkowski, but Sayid wonders how they’re going to get out and make their way to the busted communications room. Minkowski points to the door, which is now open a few inches, saying, “It looks like you guys have a friend on this boat.” Is this Ben’s inside man, or just another guy who wants to see Sayid and Desmond break out?

The three are about to leave when Desmond jumps back to the Oxford stairwell, and it’s another wonderfully jarring moment; Sayid is cut off in mid-sentence, and Michael Giacchino’s score halts in mid-swell. After four seasons of flashbacks or flashforwards that announce themselves with that growing roar of a rising tide, it’s nice to see the series getting more creative and immediate with the transitions, if only for an episode. Desmond staggers to his feet and gets moving, but then there’s another cut that’s just as beautifully stunning. It’s a painting of a ship, the Black Rock, and an auctioneer is describing its history to a room of swanky-looking people who are eagerly eyeing the glass case that contains Lot #2342, a journal of the Black Rock’s first mate. The ship supposedly set sail on March 22, 1845, but was lost at sea, and the journal was discovered seven years later on an island near Madagascar. And as if the further use of the magic numbers and the left-field craziness of the Black Rock wasn’t enough to turn your crank, the seller is none other than Tovard Hanso, who we can pretty reasonably assume is tied to the Hanso Foundation, which financed the Dharma Initiative. Just … what the hell. Start cooking up your theories.

Anyway, Desmond shows up at the auction just as the journal is bought by bidder 755, who turns out to be Penny’s father, Charles. (For the really detail-oriented kids out there, 75/5 is the apparent ratio from Desmond’s recent jump of time in 1996 comatose — 75 minutes — versus time on the ship — 5 minutes. There’s nothing the interwebs can’t teach us.) Charles and Desmond go to the bathroom to talk, as men apparently do in England, and Desmond pleads for a way to get in touch with Penny. Charles decides to make things tougher for Desmond and gives him Penny’s address but not her number, and he leaves without turning off the faucet in the sink, which seems like nothing more than a gimmick trigger Desmond’s next jump back to the ship. Sure enough, as soon as Desmond turns the knob, he’s back in the grimy sickbay.

As Sayid and Desmond make their way down the hall with Minkowski, the injured man uses his waning energy on some helpful exposition. He tells Desmond that the jumps will come quicker now and will be harder to make. Minkowski relates how he and another crewmember, Brandon, were bored out their minds while the ship was anchored off the island, so they decided to set off for shore in a small boat. “We just wanted to see the island,” he says, “but Brandon started acting crazy, so we had to turn around.” Brandon died not long after. They make it to the radio room, at which point Minkowski passes out for his last jump. Sayid asks Desmond for Penny’s number, but he doesn’t remember it because he hasn’t learned it yet. Desmond sees a wall calendar and realizes it’s 2004, and Sayid says that it’s almost Christmas. Minkowski suddenly has a fit and eventually gurgles, “I can’t get back,” before dying in Desmond’s arms. I feel a little bad for Fisher Stevens; guy gets hired for voice work and acts in one episode, then he’s murdered by the space-time continuum.

Another commercial break, another journey through time: Desmond wakes up on the floor of the bathroom at the auction house, with the water still running. He makes his way to Penny’s house, banging on the door until she opens up. Penny tells him to leave because she’s been trying to make a clean break, but Desmond won’t be ignored. She eventually lets him in, at which point he does his best to explain that he needs her phone number so he can call her in eight years — December 24, 2004. “If there’s any part of you that believes in us” you’ll give me the number, he tells her. Penny, on the verge of tears and deeply confused, gives Desmond the number and kicks him out. Desmond then pounds on her door and says that he’s not crazy, which has got to be in some book of things an ex shouldn’t do, but he jumps back to the ship before it’s a problem.

When he comes to, Desmond gives the number to Sayid, who’s rigged a temporary fix on the ship’s phone with the kind of blanket skills he has whenever the writers need him to repair something techy. The phone starts to dial, the piano kicks in, and damn if I don’t bite down hard on the emotional homecoming the show’s been selling for the entire episode, and in fact since Desmond was introduced. Penny picks up, and they finally talk after eight years. “You answered, Penny.” They both start crying as Desmond explains that he’s been on a boat, and on an island, signaling the return of his memory and his realignment in time. “You believed me. You still care about me,” he says. “I’ve been looking for you for the past three years. I know about the island,” she tells him. The signal goes in and out, but she mentions Charlie before the static gets even worse. The panic in Desmond’s eyes as he almost loses the call, and the relief when it lasts for just a few more seconds, is one of the series’ most resonant moments. There’s an almost casual power in the quick cutting and overlapping professions of love during the final moments of their conversation, and the entire sequence is a sweet catharsis.

Desmond thanks Sayid by name, and is pretty much back to normal. “I’m perfect,” he says. Back on Hell Island, Daniel is flipping through the notebook from which he’d culled the data to have Desmond feed his past self. He’s looking at the pages with a touch of bewilderment, as if he might not remember writing all of it. He eventually comes to a page where he reads the words: “If anything goes wrong, Desmond Hume will be my constant.” But that’s only half the kicker: The other is the look on Daniel’s face, the one that seems to say, “Oh, of course. How could I have forgotten?” Daniel clearly has memory problems: Charlotte was testing him a couple episodes ago with a deck of cards, seeing which ones he could remember, so maybe his radiation exposure and trip to the island have loosened his grip on the timestream, which would be why he didn’t remember meting Desmond. But really, pondering it too long is making my brain into a pretzel, so I’d be more than happy to hear theories. In the end, though, “The Constant” was a prime example of what can happen when “Lost” is on its game. If the rest of the show plays out with as much attention to storytelling as this season has, we’ve got nothing to worry about.

Daniel Carlson is the managing editor of Pajiba and a low-level employee at a Hollywood industry magazine. You can visit his blog, Slowly Going Bald.


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Comments

This was by far the best episode I've seen in a very long time. Henry Ian Cusick is amazing as Desmond, and I was holding my breath for much of the episode, and gasped when his nose began to bleed. That phonecall was one fo the most beautiful moments on television that I've ever seen, and I cried like a baby.

There are three characters whose deaths would make me quit this show, and they are Sayid, Sawyer and Desmond. I need them to have happy endings.

Posted by: Kolby at March 3, 2008 1:06 PM

Beautifully done recap to a beautifully done episode. What can I say, in the entire run of the show the only romance I ever really gave a damn about was Desmond and Penny, and man was that phone call not the perfect climax.
And nice of them to throw in enough references to "Slaughterhouse Five" without actually ever referencing it by name or showing the book. (With the exception of "unstuck in time" which is just a perfect phrase anyway and does not get enough use in the world.)

Posted by: _cG at March 3, 2008 1:12 PM

This episode made me remember just why it was I got hooked in the first place.

Beautiful description of the best moments, and great explanation as to why it worked so well.

Team Desmond all the way!

Posted by: west at March 3, 2008 1:16 PM

Does anyone here think that their friend on the boat (Ben's man) might be Michael? Something to think about.

Posted by: RAT at March 3, 2008 1:23 PM

Desmond as a character used to bore me; but as he's obviously become a key piece of the puzzle, now I can't seem to get enough of his scenes.

The fact that he's played by Cusick doesn't hurt a bit, either. I've never seen this actor in anything before, and he's phenomenal. The cast of LOST mostly work at A-level, but Cusick is a standout even in that company.

LOST makes me so frickin' happy...I look forward to Thursday nights the way I used to look forward to my birthdays as a kid.

Posted by: Jerce at March 3, 2008 1:25 PM

fabulous recap/review of an amazing episode. my brain does the pretzel thing every time i try to sort out my thoughts/questions about the space/time continuum issues in this episode (and the hints they have dropped in past episodes). the island(s) exist disconnected in space & time, which explains why no one can find it and partially explans the whole button/hatch scenario. i need to know the how & why. right. frakkin. now.

i have been trying to avoid becoming an obsessed Lost fan--spending hours on the internet trying to gather clues to the various mysteries--but this episode was so good i'm tempted to give in to temptation. i have a ton of work--that i'm getting paid for--to do though, so my transformation will have to wait.

Kolby i totally agree about Desmond and Sayid--Sawyer is very hot, but also a little annoying--this show has excellent man candy.

Posted by: pq at March 3, 2008 1:26 PM

um, the auctioneer said that the Black Rock's journal was found in Madagascar seven years later, not one week.

Posted by: jay at March 3, 2008 1:29 PM

The little man in the boat is most likely Michael. Harold Perrineau's name keeps popping up in the credits each week, and he has yet to make an appearance.

I wasn't crazy about the time bouncing. But then again, I really hated the forward flashes, and that's been used to excellent effect. So, what the hell do I know.

Posted by: insertclevernamehere at March 3, 2008 1:31 PM

I was totally thinking Kurt Vonnegut the whole episode, too. Desmond has to be one of my favorite characters, but I'm just waiting for Michael to come back. He's in the credits every week. I mean, it was a little annoying that half of his lines were him screaming "WAAAAALT!" but I thought he was the most normal character on the show with the most dramatic transformation into a murderer. I don't know. Can't wait to see him again. Maybe he's the friend on the boat?

Posted by: kelsy at March 3, 2008 1:32 PM

If anything goes wrong, TK will be my constant.

Posted by: Kevin Longrie at March 3, 2008 1:33 PM

Jerce...are you a fan of Dead like Me? A straight to DVD film is being made currently as a follow-up to the series. Cusick will be taking over the lead reaper role that was previously played by Mandy Patkin.

Posted by: Hello at March 3, 2008 1:39 PM

This was one of the top episodes of Lost - and a great recap.

About Penny calling the boat...I don't think she knew exactly where she was calling - she was trying to reach anyone who might know about Desmond. My guess is the boat belongs to Daddy (Widmore) and that somehow Penny is slowly figuring out his connection to the island. Whatever Widmore's position is (financial backer? nefarious overlord?), I think the island just became a convenient way for Widmore to rid Penny of Desmond when Daddy figured out they couldn't seem to stay apart.

OK, I'm just way too involved in this show.

Posted by: Cindy at March 3, 2008 1:40 PM

This was one of the top episodes of Lost - and a great recap.

About Penny calling the boat...I don't think she knew exactly where she was calling - she was trying to reach anyone who might know about Desmond. My guess is the boat belongs to Daddy (Widmore) and that somehow Penny is slowly figuring out his connection to the island. Whatever Widmore's position is (financial backer? nefarious overlord?), I think the island just became a convenient way for Widmore to rid Penny of Desmond when Daddy figured out they couldn't seem to stay apart.

OK, I'm just way too involved in this show.

Oh, and how can short-haired Desmond be even hotter than long-haired Desmond? Between Des and Sayid, I can barely breathe.

Posted by: Cindy at March 3, 2008 1:41 PM

"Cusick will be taking over the lead reaper role that was previously played by Mandy Patkin."

WHAT?! I love Cusick, but that is just blasphemy. I'm re-watching season 1 of DLM right now and am blown away yet again by how affecting and hilarious Mandy Patinkin is as Rube. Oh man. I didn't know he wouldn't be back, that sucks goat ass.

Posted by: Julie at March 3, 2008 1:42 PM

Sorry for the double - thought I was editing.

Posted by: Cindy at March 3, 2008 1:43 PM

This was one of the best episodes of a television show I've seen. Ever. Truly great TV.

I wish I could pontificate on what could be going on with Daniel's own perception of time, and whether or not he himself is jumping, but my brain also gets all twisted up and starts blithering like an idiot. I look forward to hearing from those who are more astute.

Also, does anyone know who the actor is that played the doctor on the ship? I recognized him from somewhere and it drove me crazy that I couldn't remember.

Posted by: katy at March 3, 2008 1:44 PM

After watching this episode, the only thing my brother and I could do was turn to each other and quote John Locke ala Season 2:

"We're going to have to watch that again."

Posted by: Faye at March 3, 2008 1:45 PM

I look forward to Thursday nights the way I used to look forward to my birthdays as a kid.

I hear you Jerce. It's going to make it all the more sad when May comes and the long winter begins.

Posted by: katy at March 3, 2008 1:49 PM

Cindy you are not alone. I LOVE short haired Desmond...
And is it weird that the whole time he was jumping back in forth I was thinking, which one is the wig? Did they film this when his hair was short and then when his hair was long?? Remember the awful wig that Jack had last season?? This ep rocked and confused the crap out of me.

Posted by: lyricalcatt at March 3, 2008 1:52 PM

Cusick will be taking over the lead reaper role that was previously played by Mandy Patkin.

I was never much into Dead Like Me but I liked the premise. I might have to check that out.

Oh, and how can short-haired Desmond be even hotter than long-haired Desmond?

Too bloody right.

does anyone know who the actor is that played the doctor on the ship? I recognized him from somewhere and it drove me crazy

It drove me crazy too, for about ten minutes; then I remembered that the same actor plays that douchebag supervisor of the "Day Shift" on CSI--the one who broke up the team. On that series he has hair, which helped me not recognize him.

...The actor's name is Marc Vann. Thanks, IMDB!

Posted by: Jerce at March 3, 2008 1:55 PM

The phone reunion scene with Desmond and Penny is what makes Lost so much more than a very interesting sci-fi drama. Such a quality, well-executed scene, bringing out the human side in all of the uberdrama. The Rose/Bernard reunion was, for me, just as powerful, and both scenes are reminders of why Lost is by far the best show on non-cable TV.

Posted by: eddie walker at March 3, 2008 1:55 PM

One of my favorite episodes EVER. An entire episode of Sayid and Desmond with minimal to zero Kate. This was gripping for the entire 40 minutes, and yes, I did cry at the end. Desmond is quickly becoming my favorite character on the show, and he and Penny are really the only romance that matters to me. (Sorry Sun & Jin and Rose & Bernard.)

Posted by: HJ at March 3, 2008 1:59 PM

Anyone else beginning to suspect that Penny's dad is the "economist" that Sayid was supposed to kill?

I think her dad has known about the island for some time (he bought that log book in 1997, right?) and made sure Desmond ended up on it to keep him away from Penny.

Posted by: Anyon at March 3, 2008 2:05 PM

This episode really confused me.

For example, Eloise is able to run the maze and Dan says that he teaches her the course in the future, but we know that Eloise dies. So how does Daniel teach her the maze?

Also, when Desmond was traveling back and forth in time, he was confused and had no idea what was going on. However, Minkowski is totally cognizant of what is happening to him, and even remembers his old job post and where the radio room is.

So, we know that exposure to electromagnetism and radiation plus coming to/leaving from the island causes the time travel. So, do you think this may have anything to do with the Oceanic 6? If you remember, when Desmond turned the failsafe key, the entire island was engulfed in that pink light. However, Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Sawyer (and Michael and Walt) were all on the Others island at the time, and Sun, Jin, and Sayid were on that boat checking out the four toed statue and trying to find the Others island. Sawyer wants to stay on the island, so let's take him out of the equation. If we are under the assumption that Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sun, Jin, and Sayid are the Oceanic 6 (which I am), could it possibly be that they are the only ones who are able to leave the island? They are the only ones who have not been exposed to the electromagnetism. Aaron has known Kate his entire life, so she would be his constant and he would be "stuck" in time again (and I'm not including him in the 6 because he was not on the flight manifest).

That being said, Daniel said that this effect could happen leaving or coming to the island. Doesn't Rose have cancer? Shouldn't she have been exposed to radiation? Why hasn't she experienced this time travel when the plane crashed? Or possibly she has, and had Bernard as her constant, and that is why she was so confident that Bernard was alive when the plane first crashed.

Oh! One other small thing - the courtyard right outside of Daniel's laboratory at Oxford has been seen in the show before. The photograph of Ms. Hawking and Brother Campbell that was on Brother Campbell's desk in season 3 was taken right in that courtyard!
Also, we know that Charlotte went to Oxford. Possibly they all know each other (Charlotte and Daniel do seem closer to each other than the other freighters).

Posted by: Stephanie at March 3, 2008 2:12 PM

Episodes like this remind me of three irrefutable facts:

1) Lost is the best thing to happen to Network Television since color.

2) Desmond and Penny are interesting, compelling, charismatic characters due to wonderful chemistry, writing and performances.

3) Charlie, Claire, and Ana Lucia will not be missed in the grand scheme of things, if only for the fact that such characters fail on every level to make me give a damn like Desmond and Penny do.

This is how you make great characters that we care about. Great writing. Great acting.

Great show. This episode cracks the top five for me.

Posted by: Drew at March 3, 2008 2:14 PM

Why are you guys all talking this episode up so much? I lost interest halfway through when I realized it was not going to be an episode that would actually have an impact on anything in the future; it was just a filler episode designed to screw with your head and not accomplish anything. It is like how that Libby character at the end of one of Hurley's episodes is seen in the mental institution. It was all mysterious and ultimately came to nothing. Desmond is freaking out? What is new. He is the Britney Spears of Lost - lots of promise, strong fan base, great voice, yet ends up blowing a fuse and merely becoming a sobbing nuisance in the end. I'd rather see Sayid steal some of that liquor from the pilot and jihad all over the bitches on the boat while getting some answers, than this tip-toeing around that is going on right now.

Posted by: FourKings at March 3, 2008 2:20 PM

FourKings, did we watch the same episode? I feel like I learned so much re: where the story is headed and perhaps how it's going to get there. I thought it was great, and even if you take out all the questions and plot development, this was a well-written, superbly-acted episode.

Posted by: Kolby at March 3, 2008 2:29 PM

Why are you guys all talking this episode up so much? I lost interest halfway through when I realized it was not going to be an episode that would actually have an impact on anything in the future; it was just a filler episode designed to screw with your head and not accomplish anything.

Well, FourKings, if all you're interested in are things that have an immediate or future "impact", might I suggest any of the half dozen Laws and Orders or CSIs. I am pretty sure that everything that happens in those shows has a direct impact within that very episode. You really don't have to worry yourself about pesky things like character development, long, drawn out plots, twists that may be far off in the future, or any of that.

That was a pretty sweet episode. Easily one of the best. I loved it.

Posted by: ajax19 at March 3, 2008 2:33 PM

[i]lyricalcatt[/i], I'll be damned if I can figure out the wig. I was too lost in the hotness.

[i]Anyon[/i] - Absolutely. I've been thinking Widmore is the Economist as well.

Posted by: Cindy at March 3, 2008 2:43 PM

Dammit, why do I have to keep making an ass of myself?

Posted by: Cindy at March 3, 2008 2:44 PM

Don't jump all over FourKings like that.

I disagree with him about this ep--strongly--but what he says is true: As fascinating as it was to me, the actual story did not advance much.

FourKings isn't like some troll who doesn't watch the show and just posts to piss off the fans. He is clearly following the show and paying attention. He gets to have an opinion without getting trashed.

That said, FourKings' opinion about this ep is totally wrong.

Posted by: Jerce at March 3, 2008 2:45 PM

Cindy, use the little arrow-shapped thingies above the comma & period to open & close your tags.

Posted by: Kolby at March 3, 2008 2:48 PM

Thanks Kolby.

Posted by: Cindy at March 3, 2008 2:51 PM

I agree in part with FourKings. The whole time-travel thing, at least in regards to Desmond, felt a little cheap.

It's introduced at the beginning of the episode, we find out it's potentially fatal, OMG HIS NOSE IS BLEEDING, and then we're let down softly. Desmond has apparently learned to control this thing and it doesn't seem like he will ever be afflicted with it again (unless they need another filler episode). Apparently once you figure out how to keep yourself sane as you jump between time periods you eliminate the occurrence of it altogether! I'll have to remember that in case I'm ever afflicted.

Unlike the Hurley episode, though, I feel that we were given a lot of new information. But the method chosen and the fact it was all crammed into one episode seemed cheap.

Posted by: Anyon at March 3, 2008 2:56 PM

Always thought that Daddy Widmore has something to do with the Hanso Foundation, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered getting Alan Dale.

Another crazy thing about that auction be that the Black Rock is the ship the losties procure the dynamite from for shenanigans. And Sawyer killed Locke's dad there.

I think Faraday explains the (convoluted) reason Eloise can run the maze even though she dies: you can't change the future. Therefore Eloise would have learned the maze in the future (1996 + 1 hour) in which she was not shot with radiation so she was therefore able to do the maze in the present (past/1996). So Eloise learned her maze in her alternate living future but changed the past by doing so, and died as a result.

I don't know if I explained that well, but I also think that explains why Faraday's notebook changed; the notebook was written in the past so it could be changed in the past sans complications.

Fuck, I dunno. Damn good show though.

Posted by: The Stew at March 3, 2008 3:10 PM

I love your explanation of Eloise and the maze Stew.

Posted by: Cindy at March 3, 2008 3:24 PM

Daniel's memory scramble, I think, has to do with the part where Desmond asks about past-Dan's protective apron and then says "What do you use for your head?" Past-Dan just looked sort of confused by that (as if his mop of grad student hair would protect him?!?) Past-Dan shortly before or after asks "Why would I forget meeting you?" (paraphrase). Ummm, maybe because you've scrambled and fried your brains, Dan?! I'm not sure how much it has to do with the island. But I could be wrong.

Also, the wig on Desmond was the short hair and though it was VERY good, you could tell that the hair stuck out in the back, at the nape of Cusick's hot hot neck, in an unnatural way.

That's all I got. Fan-freaking-tastic episode.

Posted by: coveredinbees at March 3, 2008 3:26 PM

Four Kings: Britney Spears has a great voice?!?! That alone makes you totally wrong for life.

Desmond makes my heart moist.

Posted by: PJ Pants at March 3, 2008 3:30 PM

The Stew just made me remember Desmond's odd prophetic visions that he was getting after the Hatch blew up. I suppose this in-out of time thing explains Desmond's visions, then? Makes sense with the not being able to change the future (Charlie's gonna die no matter what), but then does it change the past (Faraday's book, which I completely missed [do believe I might have teared up a bit] but are you sure it changed or did he just flip to a different page [also, my tv screen is smaller than my laptop screen]) and oh no I've gone cross-eyed...

Posted by: Kate the Great at March 3, 2008 3:32 PM

I like that you're writing about "Lost," but can the reviews be a touch more insightful, discussing potential allusions, etc.? These are long recaps. Your site is usually so insightful, but these recaps are merely just recountings of the plot.

Please let us know what you think and what you read into these episodes, like Jeff Jensen's reviews.

Posted by: matt at March 3, 2008 3:33 PM

PJ Pants - Ok; great voice not so much. But for both of them it is a largely identifying feature. I still don't like this episode; people are making good points about how Lost is about the process of discovery over multiple episodes... yet... this one didn't seem relate to anything at all. Just... Desmond is full of tomfoolery apparently, and I don't see it relating to anything else soon. The other guy who had it died; Desmond is back to normal; and Daniel is so inept why should I care if he loses his memory?

Posted by: FourKings at March 3, 2008 3:39 PM

"does anyone know who the actor is that played the doctor on the ship? I recognized him from somewhere and it drove me crazy

...The actor's name is Marc Vann. Thanks, IMDB"

He also played the doctor who 'upgraded' Charles Gunn (and other Wolfram & Hart employees) in 'Angel'. I guess he's good at the anti-bedside-manner...

I really enjoyed this episode, though my head, it still spins - talk about supplying food for thought!
Seconding everyone who's said Cusick rocked. He really is very, very good.

Posted by: Tarn at March 3, 2008 3:47 PM

YES! i can stop crying "where was desmond?"! my favorite episode of lost...ever. i agree with Kolby, i would quit watching if anything happened to those three. i almost quit last year with the lame-o death of mr. eko, but i hung in there due to the greatness of michael emerson.

Posted by: kelley at March 3, 2008 3:47 PM

yes. A sublime episode. As a science/theoretical physicist/dilettante the plotting was great and the phone call emotional resonance reminded me of the best episodes where there was nothing but music and the casual everyday wanderings of the Losties. The show is so well done, and it's a shame it loses ratings to the likes of Dance Party Nutjobs and other Deal or No Deal. This is filet mignon on an average day, and people are content shoveling 2 fer 1 cheeseburgers down. A shame.

Posted by: Mike at March 3, 2008 3:58 PM

Great review Dan, I thought it would be an almost impossible review to write but you pulled it off and explained the episode very well.

I even discovered, not surprisingly, that I missed some info like Hanso at the auction house.

I was pretty much out of breath after last week's episode finished, it was incredible. Lost is really bringing it back this season which absolutely kills me because it isn't a full season. I imagine the writers were extremely stoned when they wrote this episode and had just finished reading Slaughterhouse Five, but it was wonderful.

Posted by: citizen_cris at March 3, 2008 4:11 PM

FourKings, I kind of agree with you with comparing this last episode to the episode with Libby at the institution.
We ddin't really find out anything new about the island, except for a more in-depth explanation about the timeline inconsistencies, but i found it so complex and entertaining. And, unlike the episode before it, I found nothing predictable in the least.

Getting back to this Libby issue, will we EVER find out with the hell was up with that? Hands down, that has been my biggest Lost frustration.

Posted by: citizen_cris at March 3, 2008 4:16 PM

i love reading these comments, i come up with so many new ideas and questions. was Desmond's flashback with future-sight set before the 1996 mind travel in this episode?

if you change the past then you would change the present, so either Faraday doesn't know what he's talking about--which is possible, especially with his swiss cheese brain--or Desmond didn't change anything and he couldn't remember meeting Faraday because of the temporal rift. also, Desmond did change the future of his visions, so if this is all connected then you can change some aspects of the future, but not others? or were his visions just possible futures?

i really need to quit posting at work because the space-time brain pretzel is bad enough when i'm not trying to do 10 things at the same time.

Posted by: pq at March 3, 2008 4:22 PM

"The episode opens without a "previously on" recap, which is rare and maybe unprecedented for the series. (Somebody look that up for me.)"

It's not unprecedented, it has happened before a number of times, usually when the episode before it consists of a completely different storyline that has nothing to do with what we're about to cover(the episode before this one had to do with kate's future and locke's struggle with being in control, a way different rabbit hole from the time travel one). since this season has been completely void til now of desmond, there really was nothing to recap with him, since all we really needed to know was that he jumped on the helicopter at the last minute.

Posted by: sarah at March 3, 2008 4:37 PM

Getting back to this Libby issue, will we EVER find out with the hell was up with that? Hands down, that has been my biggest Lost frustration.

According to several of the spoiler sites, the actress who plays Libby (I forget her name) has either shot scenes for the show or is scheduled to shoot scenes very soon. Everyone (fans, that is) assumes that she will appear in other characters' flashback scenes (Desmond, Hurley). Of course, that is no guarantee that anything will be explained.

Posted by: Jerce at March 3, 2008 4:43 PM

to Drew

are you assuming Claire dies or am i missing something:

"3) Charlie, Claire, and Ana Lucia will not be missed in the grand scheme of things, if only for the fact that such characters fail on every level to make me give a damn like Desmond and Penny do."

Posted by: emiilee at March 3, 2008 4:55 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if we see Libby again. I've wondered her part in the grand scheme of things as well. Her appearing in Hurley's flashback wasn't her only time. Does anyone recall her being the one to offer Desmond the boat he used to (attempt to) sail around the world. I believe she gave him the boat because it was her husbands and he had recently passed away or left her. I'm thinking Libby is going to be shown in flashbacks somewhere and she isn't going to be the good person we thought she was. I'm thinking she was put on flight 815 by someone...I wonder if Desmond even noticed she was on the island before she was shot. Any thoughts?

Posted by: Hello at March 3, 2008 4:59 PM

I'm on board with michael being ben's inside man. it's the kind of total mindf**k lost would throw at us.

Posted by: shyestviolet at March 3, 2008 5:01 PM

Hello - Was Libby one of the Tailies? If so, she showed up after Desmond tried to leave the island on his boat, and died before he came back. He would never have known she was on the island.

Posted by: Kolby at March 3, 2008 5:06 PM

I dunno about shame, since i almost stopped watching this show on numerous occasions (one time at season 2 and basically after every episode of season 3, the last 6 or so not counting).

I'm glad i didn't, but my girl-friend stopped and a very good friend of mine too, and i can't really blame them.

The only reason why i am still watching is because they basically got rid of these fucking flashback episodes, and to be honest, if i have to suffer through one of those one more time...

The last episodes have been so great, because they somehow broke the old pattern with flash-forwards or this "time-travel"-thingie right now, it's exciting again.

I don't need to sit through 20 minutes of flashback scenes each episode to learn the motivation behind every single fucking thing Jack or Kate (or the annoying Saywer for that matter) is doing on the island.

And it got really depressingly dull and stupid in season 2 and 3. So as great as the show is at the moment, i can totally understand why they lost so many viewers.

But don't get me wrong, all of this is no reason to watch Deal or No Deal.

Posted by: colfari at March 3, 2008 5:19 PM

This episode also gives us an insight into why Faraday would have been crying when we first meet him (watching news footage of the discovery of flight 815). Remember, the unseen woman asks him why he's crying and he says "I don't know". I bet it has something to do with his memory issues.
I loved this episode! I even got goosebumps during a couple of scenes.

Posted by: canology at March 3, 2008 5:22 PM

Oh and Mr. Carlson re: the "previously on" recap; every single episode has it on the DVDs, but I can't tell you about the network airings. Thank god they aren't like 24 recaps though. 2 fucking minutes of recap is ludicrous.

And to emiilee:
I believe Drew would assume Claire dies because Kate ends up with Aaron. Or Claire has to remain on the island and will be plucked off later (as future drunk bearded Jack's ramblings are not the end of the timeline).

Posted by: The Stew at March 3, 2008 5:37 PM

I thought it was funny how for the 1996 scenes, they took the wig off Desmond and put it on Faraday.

Posted by: Alcing Functionholic at March 3, 2008 5:38 PM

I haven't read the above comments, so I hope I'm the first to give this theory about Lost:

Aaron is going to be an evil child because of Kate. Remember, the psychic said that if anyone but Claire raised him there'd be hell to pay.

Ok I'm done.

Posted by: Dre at March 3, 2008 5:54 PM

The whole time I kept thinking that it must suck to be Sayid. He's trying to get stuff done and these 2 guys keep blanking out on him.

Dre, thank you for that theory. It make me go "Ooohh." I also heard that the "sickness" that Rousseau's(sp?) group got was actually the dementia/brain aneurysm that Desmond experienced.

Posted by: maria at March 3, 2008 6:10 PM

That phonecall was one fo the most beautiful moments on television that I've ever seen, and I cried like a baby.

I've watched that scene 3 times now and each time I just bawl.
The Hubby had quit watching last season and swore he would never come back....he has watched the last 3 eps and is back watching Lost.

Posted by: Jules at March 3, 2008 6:12 PM

another random thought. i'm not sure why none of the Oceanic bunch didn't have the mental breakdown associated with the time anomaly when they first crashed, but maybe that's what happened with Rousseau's people. she said they lost their minds right, so maybe that's why it happened?

Stephanie, i like that Oceanic 6 theory. depending on the length of the time shift (they said that it varies widely) it would make sense for some people to stay behind in case they couldn't find a constant in the time they are shifting to--although Jack's insistence on going back to save them must mean that he thinks he can overcome that problem.

Posted by: pq at March 3, 2008 6:17 PM

I'm really enjoying these recaps and the comments that follow. I don't watch with as much attention to detail as some other viewers, so the recaps/comments help to round out my understanding of the episodes.

Has anyone been watching the "enhanced" versions which come on immediately before the new episodes? I know, they are just repeats from the previous week with captions/comments added. Are the enhancements helpful, or just a distraction? I figure they will go away as ABC gets some more original programming to fill the time slot.

Posted by: rlr260 at March 3, 2008 6:21 PM

Maria, i should really refresh before i post! i am at work--and actually working--but i love reading the comments and listening to everyone's theories. i can't bring myself to look all over the internet for information, and i don't want any spoilers.

Posted by: pq at March 3, 2008 7:04 PM

So, I haven't been watching; where is this island located? Why are all these people on it?

...

OK, sorry Dan. I know I don't comment regularly enough to have access to the sarcastic font tags, but I loved the bit about this on your site last week.

Anyway, seriously now, this episode was absolutely fantastic. A lady that I work with is my Lost discussion buddy on Fridays; on the day of this episode, I asked if she was looking forward to that night. "It's a Desmond episode," I said, to which she replied, "Aww, I don't really care for him. He's boring." (ladies, please, calm down; I was shocked, too). Anyway, first thing Friday morning, I said, "Well?" She changed her mind about Desmond after that. This was great stuff all the way through. I totally agree with you about the cuts. I spent the majority of this episode thinking, "I wonder when he'll jump neHOLY SHIT."

Posted by: Cody at March 3, 2008 7:37 PM

I don't know if this was already said up top, but the fact that Penny's calls were being intercepted probably had something to do with The Looking Glass, ya know, that big submarine thingy that Charlie died in. Its purpose was to make sure that messages didn't get in or out of the Island. How the boat was intercepting the messages will probably get as much attention as McManlocks' miraculous technical abilities. The important thing is that Penny was trying.

Posted by: Alex McQ at March 3, 2008 10:53 PM

Yeah. I kind of used up all my Billy Pilgrim references in the last Desmon Episode. Either way, slowly becoming better episodes than Hurley Episodes...

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Posted by: Bernard at March 3, 2008 11:51 PM

Finally Fisher Stevens gets some screen time and then they kill him off. That was a drag.

That been said, great episode.

Some recap (dunno where exactly) alluded that the true center of the series would be Desmond & Penny, like Tim & Dawn were in The Office UK. I'd appreciate that, but only if there's Yazoo kissage.

Posted by: Adere at March 4, 2008 2:33 AM

Here's what is going to happen next on LOST.

We have already seen exposition on one major element of the island, namely, time irregularities. Most people however interpret this as time travel/displacement. The show is telling us otherwise. This is CONSCIOUSNESS DISPLACEMENT. Now, with that card on the table, so to speak, I think the LOST writers must tackle the next big question regarding enigmatic developments on the island - the next BIG THEME. Of course the next theme will tie into this latest theme of Consciousness Displacement. The next THEME to undergo exposition on LOST is the long-incubated theme of regeneration/immortality.

"Nothing buried on this island stays buried"

Supposition
If you die on the island, depending on the state of your consciousness when you died, you may not stay dead.

I think the dead are going to start walking on LOST (like they haven't already been) but in a BIG way.

We will start to see it with Naomi, who so obviously is not going to stay dead. She is the first corpse to travel through the electromagnetic anomoly surrounding the island (if only momentarily as the chopper went off course briefly).

Of all the chopper occupants, only Desmond's consciousness was effected by the anomoly. This is because he had previously been exposed to "high levels of radioactivity or electromagnetism." when the hatch blew. Sayid's consciousness wasn't effected because he wasn't PRE-DOSED by the hatch-blow electromagnetic incident (he was on a sailboat on the other side of the island). Everyone else in the chopper wasn't electromagnetically predosed because they weren't around when the hatch blew either.

The only other people who were predosed when they passed through the anomoly were of course Desmond, the doomed radio operator who was predosed electromagnetically by virtue of his job, the densely electromagnetic nest of a radio communications room (and the headphones he wore constantly). And also Naomi, who engaged in the ultimate electromagnetic predosing prior to passage through the anomoly. She died on the island. Death is an electromagnetic event. Death is determined by the lack of the two electromagnetic signatures, a heart beat (electrical) and brainwaves (also electrical) Death can be interpreted as an electromagnetic event. Rest assured that Naomi was predosed.

Also, conception, by the same token, is an electromagnetic event. I propose that any concepetion on the island, the being hence concieved will be predosing all through it's gestation period. "Predosing" can be understood as "building up a charge," like when you rub a balloon so it will stick to a wall, or like dead batteries in a battery charger.

Anything predosed with island energy, especially those who die and those who are conceived will undergo a radically different process than what is understood as a "normal death" or a "normal maturation."

This is why pregnant women don't come full term on the island without dying. The amplified electromagnetic event in their womb fatally stresses their system.

This is why Walt is so special. Maybe the only island occupant going through puberty. Which is probably a more potant time with regard to charging up with island energy than conception. gestation and death. Unlike conception, gestation or Death, puberty is a high-charge time concurrent with an active consciousness.

Remember Patchy (can't rememeber his name) the Russian Other who kept dying (and who killed Charlie). I guarentee you that he has a Patch because he's a Buccaneer from the Black Rock. He's old, old, and he'll be back. Remember Miss Klugh, the Other sister that Patchy so oddly killed? She's a Black Rocker too and she'll be back. Patchy "so oddly killed her" because he knew that he wasn't really. It was more like "See ya later then Hon."

Right now, these, and other dead people, (probably only Black Rockers) ae going to spring up and reassert themselves. Just you watch.

Naomi, who accidentally underwent the correct proceedure for reanimation, will surprise everyone.

Note: It may not be reanimation (people rising from graves) that occurs, but possibly a form of doubling/doppleganger (rabbit number fifteen) manifestation that rehouses a floating consciousness.

What else.... oh yeah, clearly this series will end when Desmond and his gal are reunited on the island. It will be found that Desmond cannot leave the island for long without dying. So Penny will romantically give up her life in the world and come to live with Desmond on the island.

The only people that do leave the island are the only ones who can: All those who were well away from the hatch when it imploded. Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sawyer, Sayid, Jin and Sun. Sun will die earlier than her third trimester because she concieved so close to the hatch blow. Sun is doomed. Jin won't die. He is also working for Ben killing Dharma people post-island. Sawyer is going to sacrifice his life to save Kate from something. That won't be until the last season. It is going to get to the point that we all know that Sawyer died (from flash forwards) and they are going to build on the suspense of us all knowing it's coming but not how.

Let's not forget about that hatch implosion. There were four people IN the hatch when it seemingly disappeared, Desmond, Locke, Eco and Charlie. The whole "what happened to those guys at the point of implosion' thingy is very murky. They all proceeded to rapid evolution. In essence they all became angels to the island with Eco either being rejected, or offered as a blood sacrifice to the demon smoke monster.

The demon smoke monster may be the collective psychic energy of everyone who has died on the island. The smoke monster is therefore mostly the ghost of Dharma, or the collective ghosts of Dharma manifesting (everyone Ben killed who lays in the bone pit.. Black Rockers know how to free themselves from the smoke community of souls once they have died.That's what the whispers are too. The smoke monster is repelled by the electro-fence. Patchy is killed (?) by it. They are trying to tell you they are the same. Ben knows exactly what the smoke monster is. He probably also knows where it is at all times. The smoke monster probably moves aboout the island as predictably as weather. It follows dowsing lines - electromagnetics. It is as helpless as a cloud with regard to where it can be at any given time. That is why Ben can walk about without fear of sudden attack.

Look for Locke to have a toe cut off. he will have four toes and we will be left to chew on that for a while.

Jacob is going to turn out to be Daniel Farraday. The fact that he didn't wear head protection during his experiments with Eloise gave him a massive predose. Danial farraday is doomed. The granules surrounding Daniel/Jacob's cabin repel the smoke monster. The smoke monster's nature will be fully revealed in the episode that show's Daniel's final conversion to Jacob (and then time/displaced), The smoke monster will be the instrument of this conversion. When Jacob says "help me" he means help me from the smoke monster. Jacob himself is a smoke monster consisting of one soul: Daniel Farraday.

Mark my words.

Posted by: Mont at March 4, 2008 3:36 AM

Mont...WtF!

I really like some of your theories. The stuff with Patchy and Miss Klugh is crazy, and I love it.

There are only two things I differ from with your ideas. I think either Sawyer or Locke will die somehow. I assume it will be Locke (I will weep) and Sawyer will be left to care for those that remain on the island. He will do a great job.

Also, I think that the Smoke Monster is Jacob. Jacob is confined to the cabin when he assumes human form (forms of those whose dead bodies are on the island) and free to roam the island in smoke form.

Mont and everyone: I love, love, love to read theories. Cody, I have Lost buddies at work too!

Posted by: Hello at March 4, 2008 10:12 AM

So if Mont's theory turns out to be true:

>clearly this series will end when Desmond and his gal are reunited on the island. It will be found that Desmond cannot leave the island for long without dying. So Penny will romantically give up her life in the world and come to live with Desmond on the island.


Then the male and female skeletons Jack found in Season 1 will turn out to be Desmond and Penny!

Posted by: Zhao at March 4, 2008 11:23 AM

I was disappointed with "Eggtown", but sure enough, Lost was back this week.

Posted by: S. A. Bonasi at March 4, 2008 12:59 PM

Aaron is Jack's constant. If he visits Aaron, plays with Aaron, or develops any memories regarding Aaron, then Jack will never be able to return to the island. Or something. Whatever it is, Jack's apprehension about seeing Aaron (in flash forwards) has got something to do with CONSTANTS and time/consciousness displacement.

Right now on LOST we are waiting for Daniel to remember why he is there and what he is supposed to do once getting there.

The reason the hatches are underground and secure is protection from the smoke monster. The hatches are all about Dharma study of the smoke monster. The sonic fence is the same tech as the hatches. Dharma hardware is all about study in security of the smoke monster. The info canisters that emerge in the middle of a fields by way of some pneumatic system of tubes is not a mind game for hatch residents but a com node to the smoke monster. The canisters are info/input for the smoke monster's consumption all toward a scheme to try to figure out what it is. In killing Dharma, Ben was working for the smoke monster which is a psychic manifestation that the Black Rockers can inhabit and manipulate.

The hatches are meant to be occupied by people who are doppelgangers of themselves. One hatch is filled with a crew. Another hatch contains the SAME crew from a different timeline - and so on. The hatchers are supposed to be studying themselves and possibly trying to psychically effect their actions through a time/consciousness barrier. Dharma/Hanso understands that the smoke monster is a derivative of this process and engages in it to this end. It is also possible that the smoke monster is the result of time/consciousness displacement experiments that went all wrong in an "incident."

The "incident" was Locke smashing the computer terminal and making inevitable, the time meltdown. The smoke monster is Locke. The smoke monster is the anomoly that was created when Locke imploded with the hatch. It/he was then dispersed throughout time. Locke was looking at himself as he gazed at the smoke monster. That is why it was beautiful to a narcisist like Locke. When the hatch imploded, it, in a backwards way, created the four-toed statue, the Black Rockers, the smoke monster, all of the number tomfoolery and even Dharma/Hanso itself. Like the rat that ran the maze because it had learned it in a past which it had skipped, so to did the entire LOST universe come into existance with a past that it had skipped (throughout time) when the hatch blew.

Posted by: Mont at March 4, 2008 2:23 PM

Like an essence of Locke was attached to Locke's father as his stolen kidney... so too does Locke attach the essence of others to his new body. If Locke is the smoke monster, then the souls of those who die on the island likewise attach themselves (or are attached) to the Locke essence (the smoke monster). When Locke died/transformed in the hatch-explosion, he became an "extra-temporal soul magnet" otherwise known as the smoke monster.

The hatch implosion created a temporal rift (in the Universe) that created a new past instantly to inhabit a now newly constructed (because of the rift) present. All of the flashbacks that we have been seeing through the years are merely incidents in an imposed TIME WAR. One faction, Dharma, is trying to correct the rift using Time Agents dispersed throughout the NEW PAST. These are people like Libby who are Time Agent Warriors whose mission is to travel into the NEW PAST (the flashbacks) to set up the conditions on the island (in the NEW PRESENT, our LOST viewing present) necessary to correct the time rift... that is - conduct the war.

It is all quite simple in a cock-eyed way.

Ben is leading the other faction in the TIME WAR. These are the people who stand to lose if the Time Rift is corrected. That means anyone who is on the island will cease to exist if Dharma has it's way. That is why, after a few revelations, it is easy to understand why Sayid appears to be killing for Ben. He isn't. He and Ben both have a vested interest in eliminating Dharma from their present Timeline. All actions in the upcoming flash forwards will be in service of the above described TIMEWAR which is centered around the hatch-imploded Locke anomoly.

Why did Widmore give Desmond Penny's address? For the same reason that he left the water running. For the same reason that he sent his agent Libby in to provide Desmond with a means of getting to the island. Widmore is a TIMEWAR general, if not Commander in Chief. he uses mind control subjects as his front-line warrioirs.

Mind control subjects are often recruited from mental institutions and prisons.

Widmore is a Timelord
Ben is a Timelord
Locke is a Time God. Locke is the CONSTANT for the entire anomoly. He was made so by being at the center of the implosion. Charlie and Eco were on the edge of it, Desmond had the key (and turned it with LOVE) so he was only going to be bitch slapped by time. It's Locke that shouldered the implosion unprotected and he was scattered throughout the univerese and all time. Everything instantly became BECAUSE of him, even if he, and we, don't know it yet. They will find the head of the four-toed statue. It will be Locke's stone head.

Jacob is Danial as a Time Casualty
Miles is going to find himself in one of the other hatches.
Charlotte is a Timelord who knew Ben would shoot her so she wore a bulletproof vest.
Widmore's agent Libby got Widmore's other (unwitting) agent Desmond to the island. Widmore's agent Libby also was a connective presence to Hurley both before and after the crash. It is quite possible that Hurley is Libby's constant... or rather, Hurley is the constant that Libby engineered for herself. She needed to be on the island as a Time Warrior (as Widmore's agent) so it was arranged (by Timelord Widmore) for a hapless Hurley to be on the island at the same time as Libby.

All of the 815ers presences were engineered in advance (by all involved parties) to be on the plane which would deliver to the island all the components of the oddly paradoxical TimeWar... a TimeWar that came into being instantly and for all time when Locke got caught in the center of the time cyclone. a TimeWar that is perpetuated by the very existance of the smoke monster - which is a time-displaced Locke acting as fly paper to any consciousness-displaced soul on the island.

In the end there will be a truce because Penny will cross through the anomoly and get to the island to reunite with Des. Widmore will understand that to close the rift will mean that his daughter will now also cease to exist. He will stop his part of the Timewar against Ben.

A timelord is someone who has mastered the art of being unstuck in Time. This means that a Timelord can live their life non-linearly (like Billy Pilgrim of Slaughterhouse Five) but that they can also FEEDBACK and inform their past self with their future self and constantly modify the game. Being a Timelord means you already know what is going to happen to you. But you can change it, but you will also already know what will happen when you do that.
Being a TimeGod means that you are the constant to the entire anomoly that gives the Timelords their ability.

You see, simple. LOST is a story of TimeLords conducting a Timewar with hapless victims being used as TimeFodder.
Cross your eyes and think of Time and Consciousness as roughly the same thing (Consciousness is the thing that experiences and processes time) and there you have it.

Posted by: Mont at March 4, 2008 6:23 PM

i definitely think penn's daddy is behind the freighter/crew mission. they are looking for ben remb? ok, so could be that penn's daddy was an investor in the orig dharma proj or is a rival of hanso? trying to get at whatever the proj uncovered.. for amassing more power and money. thru the timeshift aspects while thwarting dez and monitoring penn's contact.

Posted by: kikz at March 5, 2008 10:19 AM

Mont: I don't know what you're taking, but it's the good stuff man, and I want some.

Posted by: frobme at March 5, 2008 11:18 AM

Mont: that totally makes sense. and that kind of scares me.

Posted by: pq at March 5, 2008 1:09 PM

Late to this thread but loved last week's episode and the pay off at the end with Penny & Des on the phone was great. It seemed more theatrical/play-like than TV in the way it was written and delivered which I loved. Beautiful, beautiful scene.

I've been thinking for a while that Penny's dad is involved in all of this but this episode sealed the deal for me.

Mont, I love your ideas and look forward to seeing how the coming episodes play out. I am SO hooked on this show it is scary.

Posted by: prairiegirl at March 5, 2008 6:19 PM

the scene before where daniel was crying when he saw the crash of flight 815 -- could he be crying because it isn't supposed to happen? that the team screwed up on their mission and the future that is... isn't now? so they have to fix it.

Posted by: somuchlove at March 7, 2008 5:15 PM

Sun the last of the Oceanic 6 and Jin dies.

Posted by: SPLR at March 9, 2008 12:44 PM

Holy crap,

Mont, you are so doped up on goofballs it is unbelievable. Your thoghts are off the wall and completely full of baffoonery.


Yet where can I get what drug you're doing, and how much will it set me back to do it on a daily basis.

Posted by: FourKings at March 10, 2008 6:59 AM

The image of a huge stone Locke head is so awesome. Awesome and scary. But mostly awesome.

Posted by: Claire at March 10, 2008 11:22 PM








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