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"Lost: Follow the Leader" (S5/E15) Recap / Daniel Carlson

TV Reviews | May 11, 2009 | Comments (55)


“Follow the Leader” was a rock-solid episode of “Lost” that built momentum and set up the impending two-hour finale. Written by Paul Zbyszewski and Elizabeth Sarnoff and directed by Stephen Williams, the episode didn’t focus on character flashbacks per se but expertly shifted between the 1977 and 2008 story lines, often using Richard Alpert as the springboard from one to the other. But it’s important to remember right up front that the dual stories aren’t happening in different places at the same time; they’re happening in different times in the same place. Jack et al. are hanging out 30 years before the events involving Locke, Sun, Ben, and that group. So yes, the moment when Richard tells Sun that he saw Jack and the rest of their friends die is a good shock, but really, they’re either dead or in their 60s somewhere. It’s like that stupid moment in Back to the Future: Part III when Marty freaks out seeing Doc’s grave, even though Doc had gone back 70 years and was already old. Of course he’d be dead by 1955! It’s the same on “Lost.” Jack and Kate aren’t stranded on the far side of the island; they are living in the past, and if they don’t find a way to skip forward, they’ll either be dead or old by 2008. No two ways about it.

The episode opens in 1977, a few moments before the end of “The Variable,” with Daniel holding a gun on Richard while Jack and Kate watch from the bushes. Jack tells Kate this could be their one chance to fix things, but that’s when Daniel gets shot. They try to flee but are stopped by Charles Widmore, who comes galloping in on horseback and clocks Jack with the butt of his rifle. He and another Hostile drag Kate and a bloodied Jack down the hill into the camp, where Eloise is frantically flipping through the pages of Daniel’s journal looking for clues. She finds the inscription at the front and is stunned to see her own handwriting. When Widmore arrives with his prisoners, Eloise asks if they came with Daniel, and Jack says yes. Eloise orders them taken to her tent, overriding Widmore’s warnings about a DHARMA infiltration by telling him the captives aren’t part of DHARMA at all.

Back in 2008, Richard is in his tent at the Others’ beach camp, building a ship in a bottle, when a woman walks in and says, “He’s here.” Richard emerges to see John Locke strolling up the beach with a dead boar on his back. “I brought dinner,” Locke says, tossing the carcass to the sand. Richard asks where John has been for three years, but Locke says he’ll explain on their way to run an errand. Richard examines Locke for a moment and says there’s “something different” about him, and Locke grins a bit and says, “I have a purpose now.” This is like the 18th purpose Locke has had, but hey, it works for him. Richard looks down the beach to see Sun and a horribly beaten Ben approaching, and Locke says that Ben helped him return to the island. In their own conversation, Ben identifies Richard to Sun as “a kind of advisor” for the Others, adding, “He has had that job for a very, very long time.” This is all Sun needs to hear. She hustles up to Richard, pulling the old DHARMA recruitment photo from her backpack and asking him if he was on the island in 1977 and knew Jack, Hurley, Kate, and/or Jin. Richard says that he was there 30 years earlier and does indeed remember the people Sun is asking about, but it’s because he “watched them all die.” Sun pulls a Marty McFly and just gapes at him.

A little later, Sun is sitting on the beach, forlornly looking at Jin’s ring in her hands, when Locke approaches and tells her that there’s a purpose to the journey they’re making. Locke turns and asks Richard if he still has the compass Locke gave him a long time ago, and Richard pulls it from his pocket. Locke calls out to Ben, sitting a little ways away, and asks him to come on the trip, too. Ben snidely asks if Locke is afraid he’ll stage a coup if left to his own devices, but Locke shakes his head and says, “I’m not afraid of anything you can do anymore, Ben.” Getting murdered has a way of realigning your priorities. Ben reluctantly agrees to come, and Sun stays behind while Locke and the other two men head off into the jungle.

Back in 1977, Jack and Kate are getting the Gitmo treatment from a particularly hostile Hostile, who knocks Kate to the ground before kicking Jack across the face. When the guy leaves, Jack says he thinks Daniel was onto something with his idea to pre-empt the explosion at the Swan that would lead to the creation of the hatch and the eventual crash of Oceanic 815, and that if they carry out his plan, all their friends will still be alive. Kate, who is fickle and emotionally manipulative and not at all to be trusted in the ways of love, gets a little petulant when she asks Jack if they’re just supposed to reset their lives like they never met. Jack, spitting blood, says, “All the misery that we’ve been through, we’d just wipe it clean.” Kate says it wasn’t all misery, but Jack, who has grown up a lot this season and is probably thinking about how Kate hopped in his bed for a hate-screw just a few days earlier, replies, “Enough of it was.” Good man, Jack. Eloise comes in and tells Jack that the man she just shot is the same man she met when she was 17, who told her to bury the bomb shortly before he disappeared into thin air. She’s beginning to break a little as she realizes she killed the son she hasn’t conceived yet, telling Jack she’ll believe his explanation of the situation. Jack persuades Eloise that Daniel was trying to prevent an accident that could still be stopped — which would in turn spare Daniel’s life — and she agrees to take them to the bomb. There’s just one catch: It was buried under what is now the Barracks. Eloise says that Jack and Kate should be able to get at it no problem because they’ve been passing as DHARMA members, unaware of the firefight and chaos that broke out before Jack and Kate escaped. Jack hits the perfect mix of commitment and fatigue when he says, “It might be a little more complicated than that.”

Over at the Barracks, Sawyer and Juliet are cuffed in chairs in the security bunker, surrounded by Radzinsky, Horace, Phil, and a couple others. Radzinsky fires up the incriminating tape and asks Sawyer where Kate is. “Call my lawyer,” he jokes, but that just makes Radzinsky beat him repeatedly. Horace tries to call him off, but Radzinsky says he’s “getting answers” and tells Horace he isn’t in charge anymore because he doesn’t have the stomach to do what needs to be done to protect DHARMA and its work. Horace slowly steps aside, apparently ceding decisions to a wartime consigliere who is quantifiably insane, while Radzinsky has Phil shove Sawyer against the monitor bank. “Okay, Jim, last chance,” Radzinsky says. “You tell me where she is, or so help me God, I will kill you.” I believe him. He keeps wailing on Sawyer, while Juliet cries out for him to stop. Radzinsky eventually punches Sawyer so hard across the face that his chair topples over, and Juliet begs again for him to quit. He wheels on her and demands to know what happened to Baby Ben, but Juliet attempts to play to his diminished humanity, reminding Radzinsky that she’s know him for three years and has no desire to hurt him. From the floor, Sawyer tells her not to waste her breath, since they won’t believe her and whatever she says will only wind up getting more people in trouble. Horace picks up Sawyer and votes to stop the torture, but Phil says he can make Sawyer talk. He steps forward as if to attack Sawyer, but instead that dick turns around and slaps Juliet across the face. Even Radzinsky looks shocked, which means you know you’ve gone too far. Sawyer shouts and struggles to get out of the chair, promising to kill Phil, who smugly looks back at Sawyer as if daring him to try. Bad idea, Phil. That will probably catch up to you later. Just then, a DHARMA member named Mitch runs in with the sub manifest and info about the escapees, saying that though there’s still no sign of Miles or Jin, he’s noticed that Hugo Reyes was a late-minute addition to the sub like Jack and Kate and must therefore be working with them. Radzinsky asks, “Who the hell is Hugo Reyes?” Phil replies, “He’s the fat guy.”

I was going to get a little upset at Phil for being callous, but the next shot is one of Hurley eagerly dumping food into his backpack as he prepares to make his escape, which is just sad deep down. Stocked up on vanilla cookies, Hurley tries his best make a surreptitious run for the jungle, as if hunching his head down is going to make him invisible. He doesn’t see that he’s being followed by Dr. Chang. Just outside the Barracks, Hurley meets up with Jin and Miles, who scoffs at the idea of a rescue and says they need to retreat to the beach. Chang catches up to them, and Miles and Jin raise their rifles at the doctor. Chang wants to know if Daniel was telling the truth about their being from the future, and Hurley steps in quickly to tell him the idea is ridiculous. Bad move, Hugo. Chang quizzes Hurley about his date of birth and who the president is in 1977, which bumfuzzles the big man, who also thinks Chang is inventing the Korean War. I’m no scholar, but come on, Hurley, how did you get out of high school? Miles caves and admits that yes, they’re all from the future. Chang moves a little closer and says, “It’s true, then? You are my son?” Miles admits to that as well, and it’s a nice moment that’s not overdone. Chang reveals that Daniel wanted him to evacuate the island because of a “massive accident” about to happen, and though Miles doesn’t seem to know what Daniel meant, he admits that “he’s been right about everything so far.” Chang accepts the idea and looks committed to the evacuation.

Back in 1977, Widmore kneels over the corpse of Daniel Faraday and says the man looks familiar; he doesn’t remember meeting him 23 years earlier. Eloise approaches and tells Widmore that he and Erik — the guy who was beating up Jack and Kate — are going to accompany her and the captives on a mission to the bomb, and she then orders Jack and Kate to have their hand-ties removed. She takes a tender moment to close her dead son’s eyes, then stands and gets into a quiet but heated argument with Widmore about her plan. One of the things Widmore mutters is, “Not in your condition,” and as he says it he lightly places a hand on Eloise’s stomach; looks like she’s already conceived the man she just shot. A few yards away, Richard tells Jack that the man talking to Eloise is Charles Widmore, and when he attempts to define Widmore and Eloise’s relationship, he gives up and says, “Love can be complicated.” Jack and Kate absorb the news but mainly project it onto their own situation; Kate really doesn’t look like she wanted to be reminded about the pitfalls of romance. Eloise and Widmore end their conversation, and Eloise tells her group it’s time to move out.

In 2008, night has fallen as Locke, Ben, and Richard move through the jungle, carrying torches to light the way. Richard asks again where Locke has been in the three years since Ben turned the frozen wheel, and Locke is surprised that Richard really doesn’t know the answer. Locke tells him that Richard is about to see where Locke disappeared to, and that after that Locke wants to go see Jacob. That announcement stops Richard and Ben in their tracks. Richard can’t even come up with a response, and Ben cautiously says, “That’s not how it works, John.” Locke, who apparently watched Glengarry Glen Ross a few times back in the States, steps up to Richard and asks if that’s true and if it will be a problem. Richard tries to tell him there’s no rush to see Jacob since Locke just returned, but Locke cuts him off and reminds him that he’s now the leader of the Others, and he wants to see Jacob. Period. Locke turns back to the path and tells them to keep moving since they’re “almost to the plane.” Ben has no idea what plane Locke is talking about, but they soon come to a small clearing where Locke points out the rotted fuselage of the drug smugglers’ Beechcraft. Locke turns to Richard and tells him to listen up, adding, “You’re only gonna have about three minutes to get this right.” Locke begins telling Richard that a man who’s been shot in the leg is about to emerge from the jungle near the plane, and it’s an amazing moment where the series’ greater story doubles back on itself. Locke hands Richard a pack with a first aid kit and says he’ll need to remove the injured man’s bullet, and that Richard has to tell the man that “he has to bring everyone who left back to the island. And when he asks how to do that, you tell him he’s gonna have to die.” Sure enough, at that moment the wounded Locke comes into view, limping from being shot by Ethan during his skips through time. Ben, unable to process what he’s seeing, asks Locke who the man is. Locke, who is clearly enjoying every minute of this, says simply, “Me.”

So the bleeding and frightened Locke gets patched up by Richard, whose dialogue in the exchange now has a wonderful added weight to it, especially the uneasy way he tells the hurt Locke that he’ll tell Richard about the injury in an unspecified future. From their hidden vantage point, Ben and Locke watch Richard do what needs to be done. Ben comment on Locke’s impeccable timing and asks how it was done, and Locke says the island told him when and where to be. “Didn’t it ever tell you things?” he asks, but Ben says no it hasn’t, adding that he doesn’t think it’s actually told Locke anything or else he wouldn’t need Richard’s help to find Jacob. Locke guesses that Ben has never seen Jacob himself, and Ben doesn’t come out and deny it. There’s a popping sound as the air rushes in to the space the time-traveling Locke just vacated, and Locke says his other self just went to give Richard his compass back. Richard returns to the two men and holds up the bullet he just extracted, asking if Locke wants to keep it, but Locke says no. Richard says the other Locke seemed convinced by Richard’s testimony, especially the part about dying, and Richard says he’s glad that didn’t come to fruition. Casting a damning glance at Ben, Locke says, “Actually, Richard, it did.” Ben looks like a kid who just got called into the principal’s office as they set off for camp.

Back in 1977, Chang heads down the stairs to the security station and is already announcing his evacuation plan when he stops and sees Sawyer and Juliet still tied up and the whole crazy scene still in play. Radzinsky, who is now the douchiest douche on the whole island, douchily douches at Chang that the scientist should be at the Swan station preparing for the next day’s groundbreaking. Chang tells him that the drilling is what’s going to cause the accident, but Radzinsky tells him to stick to the schedule. Chang attempts to appeal to Horace, but Radzinsky again asserts his own authority and says the plan will continue. Sawyer, battered and bloody, speaks up and tells them to put him and Juliet on the sub with the other evacuees, at which point he’ll tell them whatever they want to know. “You okay with that, sweetheart?” he asks Juliet, who’s crying a little. “Absolutely,” she says. Radzinsky hands Sawyer a notebook and pencil and says he only gets on the sub if he draws a map of the Hostiles’ location.

Out in the jungle, Eloise, Jack, Kate, Richard, and Erik arrive at a creek. Kate wants to go around, but Eloise says they have to go underwater to reach “the tunnels.” This is apparently the last straw for Kate, who says she’s not going and turns to leave. “I can’t go any further with you, Jack,” she says. Jack reminds her that the DHARMA people tried to kill them, but she replies, “And what are you trying to do?” She seems to think that (a) Jack’s plan can only end in disaster, which means somehow that (b) it’s safe to return to the Barracks. Kate no good plan make. She moves to leave, causing Erik to raise his rifle and tell her to halt. Jack tells him that’s not necessary, but Eloise says the Hostiles don’t let strangers in on their secrets and then just walk away. Kate keeps walking, Jack keeps shouting, and it looks like Erik is going to go through with it. A shot rings out, and in a parallel with Daniel’s death, the victim turns out to be the gunman. Erik takes two in the chest and falls to the ground as Sayid (!!) emerges from the trees and raises his pistol at Eloise and Richard. Best comeback ever.

Moments later, Richard checks Erik’s pulse and confirms the kill. There have been a lot of bodies dropping in Hostileville this week. He’s confused that Eloise seems unconcerned that one of her people just got killed, but she tells him that if the newcomers are right, it won’t matter. A short distance away, Jack is catching Sayid up on his intent to carry out Daniel’s plan, saying they can change things. Sayid says that changing the future is impossible since he killed Ben Linus and nothing happened, which dude: How can an assassin leave a target without making a head shot just in case? Kate says Baby Ben survived being shot by Sayid, and that she and Sawyer took him to the Others so he’d live. Sayid, showing admirable restraint, quietly asks why Kate did that, but she gets all preachy about not killing kids and blah blah knock it off. Jack says the three of them got raptured off Ajira 316 and into the year 1977 to change things, and that this is their density destiny. Kate accuses Jack of sounding like Locke, though she doesn’t say his name, adding, “He was crazy, too. You said so yourself.” Jack pulls his own Crazy Ivan and admits, “Well, maybe I was wrong.” Maybe Jack really does think he was wrong to doubt Locke; whatever the case, he’s fired up at the idea of having a purpose now, and he won’t back down. Kate says she’s going back to the Barracks to find the rest of their people to see if they can stop Jack, since she obviously can’t. Burn!

Down by the pier, Miles, Jin, and Hurley are hiding out and watching people load onto the sub. A van pulls up and unloads the young Charlotte and her mother, followed by Chang, Chang’s wife, Lara, and the infant Miles. Chang raises his voice and commands his wife to leave, and Miles suddenly understands everything: Chang didn’t abandon his family, he did what he had to do to get them to leave and survive. Just then a jeep pulls up bearing Sawyer and Juliet, still cuffed, and as they’re lead out of the car and toward the sub, Hurley reasons that everything will work out because Sawyer always has a plan. Walking toward the sub, Sawyer tells Juliet that they’ll be okay; they can invest in Microsoft and bet on the Dallas Cowboys in the 1978 Super Bowl. He grows serious and apologizes for not letting her get on the sub three years earlier, but she looks at him and says, “I’m glad you talked me out of it.” That’s sweet, which makes me think something bad is going to happen. Juliet boards the sub, and Sawyer follows. Before he’s inside, he takes one last look at the island, growls a good riddance, and descends into the submarine.

In the jungle, Richard plunges into the creek and begins swimming for the tunnels. Jack, standing near the bank, turns and tells Sayid he’ll understand if he doesn’t want to follow. He takes a deep breath and dives, following Richard to the opening in the bottom of the rocks at the far side. He moves through a narrow underwater passage before emerging in a pool inside a room whose walls and pillars are adorned with hieroglyphs: It’s just like the underground chamber where Ben visited the smoke monster, and could very well be connected to it. Jack asks if they’re going to get the bomb out through the pool, and Richard, getting understandably testy from the day he’s having, says, “It’s a 12-foot long, 40,000-pound hydrogen bomb. No, not through the pool.” Eloise emerges from the pool, taking a torch from Richard as she walks out, and Sayid appears right behind her. Tying his soaked man-locks behind his head, Sayid tells Jack he came because if the plan works, everything will be fine, and if it doesn’t, “at least you’ll put us all out of our misery.” Following Richard, they head off into the tunnels.

In 2008, Richard, Ben, and Locke return to the Others’ camp. Richard tells Locke they’ll get a tent ready for him, but he says he wants to leave immediately to go see Jacob. Richard, torn between deferring to Locke’s role as leader and following the rules of the island he’s been keeping for who knows how long, tells Locke they can do whatever he wants but it might be good to talk about it first. Locke cuts him off and asks if the group in the camp includes all the Others, and Richard says some are still at the Temple, but Locke says this group will work for now. He asks to speak to them, and Richard has no choice but to say, “Be my guest.” Locke even takes a moment to stare down Ben before turning and addressing the crowd. He tells the assembled that though they’ve been taking orders from Jacob, no one has ever apparently seen him. He says that there are probably “very good reasons why his existence and whereabouts are secret,” but he doesn’t know what they are. He even shoots a screw-you look at Richard! Sun, like a kid in an elementary school Christmas play, steps forward and again recites her line about wanting to find her husband, and Locke tells her Jacob can reveal how to bring Jin and the rest of the Oceanic people back to the right time. Locke tells the crowd that he and Richard are going to go see Jacob and that they are all invited to come along. They all nod, and a couple particularly adventurous extras even pat his arm as he makes his way into the crowd, but Richard and Ben are not at all pleased with the turn this has taken. In a fantastic moment that mirrors Jack’s own doubts about following Locke at the end of the first season, Richard says to Ben, “I’m starting to think John Locke is gonna be trouble.” Ben’s matter-of-fact reply is awesome: “Why do you think I tried to kill him?”

Back in 1977, Sawyer and Juliet are handcuffed to tables in what appears to be the galley, because when you’re in a submarine, it’s always a good idea to be chained to something. Safety first! Juliet asks what Sawyer plans to do when the ship reaches Ann Arbor, and he tells her they don’t have to worry. The DHARMA Initiative doesn’t have legal control over them, so once they dock, wherever that is, they can be free. (This plan seems kind of vague, but it might not ever be realized anyway.) He takes her hand and says once more that whatever happens, he’s got her back. “I love you,” she says, and Sawyer smiles and says, “I love you back.” Oh man, something really bad is going to happen. Just then, Phil comes down the ladder with one more prisoner who was caught coming back into town. Shortly thereafter, Kate climbs down into the submarine, and she’s seated near Juliet and chained to the same table. Sawyer looks worried, and Juliet looks annoyed that Kate intruded on her moment. The sub pulls away from the dock and dives, headed for the mainland.

Down in the tunnels, Sayid has Jack hang back from Eloise and Richard and tells him that Eloise’s motivation for following Jack’s plan could be to annihilate the DHARMA Initiative. Jack says he thought of that but still trusts her because she’s the one who will tell them how to get back to the island in 30 years. Sayid calls shenanigans on Jack’s logic, and they enter a much larger room with a sheet-covered hulk at its center. Eloise removes the cover to reveal Jughead, still cracked and leaking, resting on its side on a wheeled palette. “Well,” she says, “now what?” Jack just furrows his brow and starts planning.

Up in 2008, morning has come by the time Locke and the rest of the Others are setting out to see Jacob. Locke shoots the breeze with Ben about the weather like he’s not a resurrected and possibly supernatural manifestation of a smoke-filled spirit, but Ben tells him that Richard has expressed concern about whether Locke knows what he’s doing. Locke, in the same quasi-corporate tone, grins and says, “I appreciate you bringing this to my attention, Ben.” Ben starts in on a whole new line of groveling, telling Locke he’ll help him reunite his people any way he can, but Locke says he’s not interested in getting back to the Oceanic Six. Ben, confused, says that’s what Locke told Sun, but Locke says that’s not why he’s going to Jacob. The real purpose of Locke’s trip is much simpler: He wants to kill Jacob. Ben doesn’t even respond, he just stops walking and stares as Locke and the Others walk by.

And that’s the episode. Overall it was a strong one, and there’s no doubt the next episode — the season finale — will be a big one. Once again, Jack and Locke are on crusades to save their people or the island, and that dynamic has done as much to define the series as anything else. What’s more, how will Jack get the bomb out of the tunnels, and how was it even taken down there to begin with? How old is Richard, and how much power does he have over the island and its events? I’m also nervous about the captives on the sub; “Lost” is fond of sacrifice and watery graves, and it wouldn’t surprise me if there was an accident on the sub and Sawyer had to choose between Kate or Juliet’s survival. And just how did Jack and the others supposedly die, and when did Richard see this happen? Could he have meant the Purge, the accident, or something else altogether? In what manner does the island talk to Locke, and why does he want to kill Jacob? Now more than ever, Locke is tied to the island; isn’t Jacob just as tightly bound to it? Also, I can’t wait for Radzinsky to go nuts and be put in the Swan to push the button. I’m getting tired of that guy.

Daniel Carlson is the managing editor of Pajiba and a TV critic for The Hollywood Reporter. You can visit his blog, Slowly Going Bald.


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Comments

How do we know Richard is telling the truth about having watched them die?

The exchange between Richard and Ben about Locke becoming trouble vis a vis Jacob tells me that Richard and Ben are equally treacherous, and that Richard has motive to lie about everything, including Jacob -- and this business about having watched the survivors die.

Nothing -- NOTHING -- is as it seems. Including Richard being this stand-up, righteous guy.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at May 11, 2009 2:07 PM

Jack and Kate aren’t stranded on the far side of the island; they are living in the past, and if they don’t find a way to skip forward, they’ll either be dead or old by 2008.

While this is technically true I think you're underselling its importance. Unless we get into another unstuck in time plotline, Jack et al will die back before the original Oceanic crash. When is the "war" coming? It was equally possible that the war could be in the past or the present. Now it is exceedingly likely that the war will be in the past and that many of the cast will not survive it. Unless we have a course correction that wipes out past history, the Lost endgame may be darker than I thought.

Posted by: ed newman at May 11, 2009 2:23 PM

Haven't read it yet but I just wanted to say:

Kolby will be very happy with that header pic.

Posted by: figgy at May 11, 2009 2:28 PM

Great, awesome episode. The exchanges between Locke and Ben were better than ever. Beaten-down Ben, trying to regain a little of his smarmy control, consistently verbally back-handed by Locke-on-a-mission. Jack also seems to have regained some testicles. Good to see.

Umm, Sawyer, seriously, if you have to choose, CHOOSE JULIET!!! Kate is annoying the living shit out of me!! And, the Sun we saw on the docks with a gun is NOT the wimpy Sun we are seeing now.

Finally, can we feature Hurley WITHOUT referencing food or fat?????

Posted by: dammitjanet at May 11, 2009 2:34 PM

As soon as Hurley, Jack and Kate joined the DHARMA crew, one of the first thing Hurley asked was who was currently president. When Sawyer blew him off, I was CERTAIN that it would eventually be his downfall. It wasnt as dramatic as that, but when Chang asked, I felt very smug and satisfied.
Tiny victories.

Posted by: Patty O'Green at May 11, 2009 2:37 PM

I think I always had this idea that Jack and Kate and company would make it back to their own time. So hearing Richard say he watched them all die was kind of horrible.

From the previews, though, it looked like Sawyer and Juliet make it off the sub and back to the island somehow; Juliet whines about how Sawyer "looked" at Kate, so I don't think we have to worry about a watery demise. Unfortunately. This love quadrangle thing is the only part of Lost I find truly tiresome.

I'm a wee bit annoyed at how many times our heroes are rescued by someone popping up in the jungle in the nick of time to throw a stone or shoot someone. But since the alternative is a bunch of weary trekkers wandering alone in the brush, their paths never crossing, I'm willing to let it go. Like how the Enterprise always ran into something in the vastness of space without ever looking for it.

And how stupid was Kate for trying to storm off while they were aiming guns at her and screaming for her to stop? What did she hope to accomplish? I loved the moment when she gets chained to the same table as Sawyer and Juliet. Awkward doesn't begin to describe it.

I'm also a little underwhelmed by Locke's new group. He refers to them as "his people", to the crashies as "our people"--enough already. It's another group of faceless extras, who could be super evil for all we know, and who also are apparently so dumb that none of them thought it weird to be taking orders from an invisible man until Locke pointed it out to them.

Posted by: DeadBessie at May 11, 2009 2:53 PM

Yes, thank you, damnitjanet--just 'cause the guy's fat doesn't make it his sole characteristic. Hurley's fat, Locke's old, Kate's hot, Daniel's nuts, Miles is a douche--let's move on already.

Posted by: DeadBessie at May 11, 2009 2:56 PM

Back in the Jughead episode Faraday told the Hostiles/Others to repair the cracked casing and bury the bomb under concrete. 1) So much for listening to the expert and 2) do you think they bothered to fix the crack?

I think Richard was telling the truth about seeing the Losties die. It is rare that anyone on this show outright lies and isn't exposed in the same episode.

And I love that Jack isn't buying into Kate's shit anymore.

Posted by: ed newman at May 11, 2009 2:59 PM

great episode, great review. i agree with damnitjanet-choose juliet! i was honestly disappointed when sayid killed the hostile and not kate. also...i keep wondering when we're going to see claire again? perhaps when they go to jacob? ooo-wednesday can't get here quickly enough!

Posted by: gem at May 11, 2009 3:07 PM

I sort of wanted to see Jack smack Kate after Sayid saved her and yell "Idiot! You would have got shot if it weren't for our mystery friend in the bushes! Dumbass!" As for Hurley, much funnier this week, when he tried on the fly to guess what year he was born and failed horribly. Probably would have been smarter to have memorized some key backstory elements from the get-go though--there was a good chance during processing that someone would have asked date of birth, etc.

Posted by: Bd at May 11, 2009 3:08 PM

Two Back to the Future references? nice.

Also, just a heads up for everyone, as ABC drove this into my skull whilst watching the NBA playoffs:

They said that the season finale starts at 8, and is indeed three hours long, but in fact from 8-9 is the oceanic 6 recap thingy, and the actual finale is from 9-11. And since I can't help myself and I read the spoilers, believe me when I saw its gonna be good.

Posted by: aidan at May 11, 2009 3:11 PM

It's soooooooo tempting to read spoilers for the season finale, but I'm going to restrain myself and pass. It will be all the better on Wednesday. Even the weekly 'sneak peeks' seem a little like cheating, but I do allow myself those.

I thought it was pretty common knowledge that we wouldn't be seeing Claire until season 6. But it wouldn't surprise me if she popped up in the next episode to set the scene for her reappearance.

I don't have a lot more to add for this week that hasn't been or won't be said. But I was pretty surprised by Locke's revelation at the end. Why would he want to kill Jacob? Is it in response to Jacob asking him for help in the cabin?

The finale comes with such mixed feelings. On the one hand it's going to kick ass, as usual, but on the other, the long winter is about to begin.

Posted by: katy at May 11, 2009 3:22 PM

Why would they seek out Kate yet put her on the sub when she wanders in? What did she tell them and wouldn't Radzinsky have opposed this?

Posted by: Fuel at May 11, 2009 3:24 PM

Didn't watch next weeks preview, but it looks like Kate bought her way off the island by selling Jack out? I'm guessing she tells Sawyer what she did and he makes the sub turnaround.

Posted by: L.O.V.E. at May 11, 2009 3:28 PM

and good point about Sun. You can't ask her where the bathroom is without her asking if you think Jin might be there.

Posted by: Fuel at May 11, 2009 3:28 PM

Is the actor who plays Dickhead Phil the same guy who played Bobby the Asshole Comic on Mad Men?

I actually felt sorry for Juliet when Kate showed up on the sub. That's a real turnaround. I used to hate Juliet. This show has warped my fragile little mind.

Posted by: shelleyh at May 11, 2009 3:43 PM

To me that whole 'I saw them die' doesn't mean much. I bet there's a big explosion or whatever, but I bet Richard never saw any corpses! Maybe they'll all get throw back into the future by the 'incident'.

who knocks Kate to the ground before kicking Jack across the face.

I watched that like 4 times in a row and cackled.

Someone needs to count the times that poor Sawyer has been beat to a pulp, and the times he's been shot. Dude seriously needs some good karma to come his way.

Please. Please. PLEASE. Someone kill Kate. Just...now. I don't think I can watch her longer. She just fills me with so much RAGE. I actually CHEERED when I thought she'd been shot. First and only time I've sorta disliked Sayid. But I'm so glad he's back. But you know that mega idiot slut Kate is going to get either Sawyer or Juliet hurt in some massive, unspeakable way. YOU JUST KNOW.

“I’m starting to think John Locke is gonna be trouble.”
All I could think of after that was "but he's just so damn talented"

And to end: no other show on TV does season finales like Lost. Every single one of them has been amazing and I can't WAIT for this one.

Great recap, Dan!

Posted by: figgy at May 11, 2009 3:46 PM

shelleyh: yep, that's him. He's really good at playing douches, isn't he?

Posted by: figgy at May 11, 2009 3:46 PM

I think Richard was telling the truth about seeing the Losties die. It is rare that anyone on this show outright lies and isn't exposed in the same episode.

I agree. Richard never lies - think about it. He may not have seen them die, but he sure as hell thinks he did.

I am thinking Locke thinks Jacob wants him to kill him, to put him out of his misery, hence the "Help me" at the cabin. Locke has only resorted to violence when he felt it was in the best interest of the island. Since we don't know who Jacob is (although I think we're going to find out soon), we don't know if he's dead or alive or Smokey. OR, "killing him" may just mean exposing Jacob as a myth created to control people.

And I think Smokey carried Jughead into the tunnels.

Oh, one last thing: Richard. Sigh.

Posted by: Kolby at May 11, 2009 4:07 PM

I like your theory about the Losties "dying", figgy. Certainly possible.

Posted by: ed newman at May 11, 2009 4:35 PM

figgy: He is quite good at being the professional douche. That will make it all the sweeter when a Sawyer asswhupping is delivered on him.

Posted by: shelleyh at May 11, 2009 4:39 PM

Kolby, I wanted to let you know (if you don't already) that the producers confirmed that the Chang/Daniel video was non-canon. Apparently they had some other plan that didn't work out time-wise, so it was dropped.

I liked a lot about this episode as a whole, even if so many individual things disturbed me. I loved the idea of the audience trying to figure out, along with the characters, which leader to follow. At this point, I feel like Jack is being foolish and insane to believe that with no real plan, he can reset events and time, but who knows? In the end, whatever he's attempting to do may be a catalyst for something unpredictable. Meanwhile, my feeling right now is that he and Sayid will actually be the cause of "The Incident".

I'll be so bummed if Richard turns out to be a bad guy, when all this time I've thought of him as the one good dude we could count on. But that little exchange with Ben seems ominous.

Ben was a riot with his bad puppy look after Locke revealed his misdeed.

Doc Jensen over at EW speculates that Sawyer, Juliet and Kate will get back to the island via a stopover at The Looking Glass Station - which sounds sensible to me. Of course that probably means it won't happen that way.

I can't get down with the Kate hate right now, because to me, she made the sensible choice not going with Jack. And of course that also likely means I'm wrong. But really, Jack has no coherent plan, and I can't imagine that Daniel left such specific instructions in his journal as to how to cause the un-crash. But whatever happens, I can't see an un-crash because I don't think that would be audience-friendly.

I've no idea about the whole Locke's going to kill Jacob thing. Would he really assume that death is the answer to a "Help me"? Far fetched even for Locke, no? But I love the unbalanced and out of control Ben.

Posted by: Cindy at May 11, 2009 5:02 PM

Is that the mayor of Gotham City from Dark Knight? I've never seen Lost so I have no idea. Does he always look like he's wearing eyeliner?

Posted by: Snath at May 11, 2009 5:08 PM

I've always liked Juliet for some reason...

Isn't it funny how we saw yet another *potential* Kate-offing this week? Almost as if the writer are teasing us... Giving us hope that someday, someone will get it right ;)

Guy who plays Phil was also in Mulholland Dr. - the earnest neurotic Dan at the Winkie's diner with his shrink.

Posted by: oskar667 at May 11, 2009 5:23 PM

@Snath: Yes and yes. :-)

Posted by: AMT at May 11, 2009 5:57 PM

DeadBessie -- Maybe Kate wants to die.

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at May 11, 2009 6:11 PM

Hmm, thoughts. I know by now that there is no real concept of good and evil on the Island, dammit if I didn't think that Richard Alpert, with his dashing guyliner and silky voice was the exception. I will be very disappointed if Richard and Ben join forces against Locke. Also, I'm kind of confused about the Locke/Richard timeline. We know that Richard met Locke when the latter was a boy; does this mean that Richard left the Island to find Locke and then went back? Was it before Richard came to the Island in the first place? If you believe that the Island sent Richard to find Locke, then I would have to guess that the former is true. That's one plot point that I would really like to see clarified.

As always, shut UP, Kate. I found Kate's being handcuffed between Sawyer and Juliet a tad anvillicious. Sayid showing back up made me squee - I believe the exact words I spoke to my TV were "Hey there, sexy man. How you doin'?" In my mind, Sayid is like Statham: he makes everything better. I love the evolving Eloise/Widmore relationship and want to see that explored further.

I'm equally intrigued by the location of the other Losties. Rose and Bernard, where art thou? I'm going to be patient to see what unfolds along the lines of Richard watching "them all die," but not for much longer. And how will Des and Penny play into the resolution of the show?

By the way, whatever happened to Kate telling Jack "I've always been with you"? Fickle bitch.

Because it just can't be said enough: Richard, yum.

Posted by: Nicole at May 11, 2009 7:42 PM

Maryscott - I don't believe Kate wants to die. She's too effing selfish for that.

I will admit under pain of death that I still want a Jack/Kate happy ending. Shut up, I'm a sucker. It's the same reason I want a House/Cuddy relationship - I like sexy/pretty people getting it on.

Posted by: Nicole at May 11, 2009 7:45 PM

okay ... why does pajiba insist on using quotes from The Wire as titles to reviews for Lost? aren't there quotes in Lost that would be more suitable as titles for a review about Lost?

now don't get me wrong, I love The Wire ... every now and then I just have to rob drug dealers and give away the product for free because that's how much Omar Little meant to me ... and yes, I love quoting the Wire ... I love going on and on and on and on and on about my favourite scenes with friends ... but that's when we're talking about The Wire, not Lost. well ... we never talk about Lost, but you get my drift ...

Posted by: lelnguye at May 11, 2009 8:02 PM

Nicole, the other thing that bugs me about Richard is the times when he didn't recognize Locke (when Locke time traveled). Since Richard knows so much about the island and he knew Locke since John was a boy, I feel like he must know more about time travel (and subsequent events) than he's letting on. For that matter, more about everything. There have been many times when Richard answered a question and I felt there was much more he was not saying than what he was.

Posted by: Cindy at May 11, 2009 8:09 PM

If Kate does die, all this Kate-hatred and wishing for it are going to diminish the drama of the moment. I don't think they're killing her off; they've set up her quest to find Claire as an important and sympathetic thread. Compared to some of Kate's earlier dramas, I actually think that's one that is worthy of the show.

Meanwhile, Jack is batshit insane. I think I asked this here last week, but what exactly does he expect to happen when he detonates this bomb, and why the hell are Richard and Ellie so willing to go along with this plan? Just because someone is from the future, does that mean a plan to detonate a nuclear bomb makes sense? I get that they buy Jack and Daniel are actually from the future, but shouldn't some very basic logic apply? Does he think his consciousness will be magically transported to 2004? Would have memories of the experience in that case? Or does he expect to die and content to set things right for his past/future/alternate universe self? Does that really make sense? Is the Island speaking to him?

Posted by: DarthCorleone at May 11, 2009 8:13 PM

Rather, "Would he have memories..." and "...is content..."

Posted by: DarthCorleone at May 11, 2009 8:17 PM

Nicole, I think when Locke was in the Others' camp in 1954 he told Richard that he would be born in 3 years (?) and to come see him. That's why Richard showed up at the hospital and leered through the nursery window. And then he came back to Locke when he was in foster care and did that test to see if he was "ready".

Posted by: Rachel at May 11, 2009 8:23 PM

I don't understand that at all either, Darth. Why did he just take what Daniel said at complete face value? Why does he trust Eloise--yes, she told them how to get back, but what in his time there has shown him that they really NEEDED to get back? Why does he buy everything everybody tells him? I can't help but feel that just having him believe everything Daniel told him is a cheap way out of having to explain anything. It bugs me when things seem so lazy.

Of course it could just be that Jack is an enormous moron who'll do anything to try and be heroic.

Posted by: figgy at May 11, 2009 8:28 PM

Best comeback ever.
Indeed.

And can I admit that I always secretly want Locke to crash and burn? When have his plans ever worked out? What is he working toward? He always just seems to spread despair whenever he follows what the island is telling him to do, starting with Boone's death. Remember pretty boy Boone? Yet another reason to un-crash.

Posted by: kelsy at May 11, 2009 8:39 PM

figgy>> I think the possibility is there for Jack to evolve as he has, but it feels like the limited number of episodes to tell the story - initially a blessing to cut down the filler and guarantee that we get a complete story on network television that actually has a conclusion - is now working against them. So to me it has less to do with laziness and more to do with space constraints. They're brushing over details of characterization to satisfy plot points and rush to the season finale, and resonance and believability of the story are suffering as a result.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at May 11, 2009 8:47 PM

Nicole

Richard's visit to Locke was already explained, Locke met Richard in 1954 ('jughead') and gave him the compass, after which Richard went and witnessed John being born in 1956, and tested him with the compass a few years later - so yes Richard was on the island prior to meeting John, probably a looong time before

---

Some things I picked up on: there is no way Daniel could be born in 1978 (maybe late 77) - that would make him only 18 or 19 in 1996, already well into his research, and considering his fully-formed beard when he received his doctorate it seems unlikely he was a teenager

You would think the writers were well aware of this and had no need to put the bit with Charles remarking on Ellie's stomach - it could be Penny, but she is also too old (having met Desmond in 94), so I don't know - but I think last week's scene with Ellie crying and stopping Daniel playing the piano was close to when she shot the adult daniel, so I think the pregnant thing may be a red herring

I also don't think Sawyer, Juliet and Kate get very far - if they were let out into the 70s surely they would've become billionaires and would've tried to impact on the island in some way? You can't rule it out, but I think it's unlikely

Also, thinking back, was the island easier to find in the 50s? The military were testing nukes on it, maybe the incident is what gave it it's protection?

Anyway, next week should be interesting - I think we'll see 'the incident' (not a spoiler, I'm just guessing) and I reckon it's why babies can't be born on the island in the future

Posted by: Tarquin at May 11, 2009 8:56 PM

I'm with Tarqin - I doubt Eloise was pregnant with Daniel if she was indeed pregnant in 1977. Perhaps she was pregnant with someone else, someone we already know.

And next week's episode title is "The Incident," so yeah, we're probably going to figure out what it is. I'm a little bit doubtful that Jughead detonating will be the incident - seems too easy to go that route, and Lost is all about shocking us into keeping the fires lit for the nine months until season six.

Cindy - I'm pissed about the Booth video. That's not the first time they've had to backtrack. Ugh.

And I don't think Richard is bad or good - he's whatever the island needs him to be. So I don't think his little aside to Ben was foreshadowing him as evil. Rather I think he was just confiding in someone he's been close with for decades, someone who never questioned his, or the island's, motives. Locke's immediately going againts tradition probably troubled him, and he expressed his reservations to Ben.

Oh, last thing - Kate is endgame, so no matter how much people hate her, she's not going anywhere any time soon. I've never had a problem with her, and Lilly has gotten so good at playing the character. I don't like the shitty ass love quadrangle, but it's small potatoes compared to the rest of the show, which has been awesome pretty much all season.

Posted by: Kolby at May 11, 2009 9:50 PM

My thoughts:
1. I think Richard is some sort of historian/grounds-keeper Willie of the island. He records what transpires and does Jacob's bidding, but he's rarely allowed to get involved.
2. Ben is totally fucking with Locke. No way he's never seen Jacob, he's just letting Locke do what he does best - suck at life.
3. Jacob's tired. He wants Locke to kill him and take over his duties of being the island master or whatever. That time Hurley found the cabin and the creepy eye looked back at him? Looks totally like Locke and could be some kind of time-jumping moment.
4. Why the hell isn't Kate looking for Claire yet? Seriously, for someone who came there with a purpose she seems really intent on just hanging around all guys (Ben's dad??) and annoying the fuck out of Juliet.
5. I need it to be Wednesday.

Posted by: Peepants at May 11, 2009 11:26 PM

"Kate hatred" -- hmm. I don't hate Kate. Why DO people hate Kate?

Her giving up Claire's son was the most painful thing I could imagine doing, ever. She raised that boy from infancy. Giving up a son you've raised from infancy? AGONY. For that act alone, I have nothing but compassion for Kate.

Good question -- why HASN't she started looking for Claire? Is this a flaw in the writing, or is it for a reason?

Posted by: Maryscott O'Connor at May 12, 2009 12:20 AM

I think Kate hasn't been looking for Claire because as far as she knows, Claire is in the present-day. As simple as the explanation seems, how would Kate look for her in 1977? If Jack won't ask some very logical and basic questions about the space-time continuum, I don't expect Kate will either.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at May 12, 2009 2:06 AM

As I said before, I don't hate Kate either. Especially now that she gave up Aaron and now that it has been revealed she came back to the island to find his mom, Claire--AND she didn't go along with Jack's idiotic plan. I did really dislike the way she came onto the sub though: she didn't even glance at Juliet, she just kept staring at Sawyer. God knows I HATE that love quadrangle.

Dan: either I'm missing something about the "seeing them die" thing, or you are. If Richard is speaking the truth and he did see them die, and the past really cannot be changed (and so far we've had no reason to think it can), then that means Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Juliet, Jin, Miles and Hurley never found a way back to their own time, probably never got off the island, and never grew very old at all. Which would suck.

Can't wait for Thursday, when I'll be able to download the finale eps. :)

Posted by: Thijs at May 12, 2009 3:52 AM

"Kate hatred" -- hmm. I don't hate Kate. Why DO people hate Kate?

Oh God, so many reasons. Mainly because she seems so selfish. She blows up her stepdad because she finds out he's her real dad and he's been leering at her--creepy and sad, yes, but not enough reason for murder, and she pretends like she's doing it for her mom. She gets her old boyfriend killed when trying to outrun the cops. She marries a swell guy and then leaves him because things are too perfect. She jumps in the sack with Sawyer only to keep leaving him for Jack whenever Sawyer pisses her off. She makes out with Jack in the jungle and then runs off. She jumps in the sack with Jack to distract herself from losing Aaron, giving Jack false hope. She keeps inserting herself into Sawyer and Juliet's relationship. Basically, she brings misery wherever she goes.

I don't have a problem with the actress. I think she does a great job, particularly in the scene where she tells Aaron goodbye. It's maybe the one time she doesn't act like it's all about her. But overall she seems extremely self-centered, and so I can't like her character. She also seems to be getting dumber every episode.

As for finding Claire, I had forgotten all about it, because Kate only mentioned it once, to the grandmother, and nothing she's done so far indicates that Kate is even trying. I didn't even really believe her when she told Claire's mom that she was going to find her daughter. I figure she'll go back and make a lame ass attempt; when that fails, she'll feel justified in keeping Aaron.

Posted by: DeadBessie at May 12, 2009 7:53 AM

Kolby, I agree with your disappointment at the video, it was rather enticing to just be dropped.

I don't necessarily think the bomb itself is The Incident, but I think either the group trying to set it off or the group trying to stop it being set off will cause it. Of course, I have absolutely no theory as to what "it" is.

I'm not sure why all the Kate hate is out there either. Her character has been deeply flawed in her past, but so have a good many of the characters. The hate really seemed to flame with the arrival of Juliet - so I think people just have a preference for Juliet as a love interest (apparently for both Jack and Sawyer). Me, I can't stand Juliet. I'm not impressed with the actress, and I've never come to fully trust the character.

As for Kate not searching for Claire as yet, I think it's a matter of not having the time to do anything but react to situations since her arrival. I don't think she's felt safe or secure for a moment - and until she can really get her bearings, she won't be able to think about Claire. Never mind that they aren't in the same time period as when Claire disappeared.

Posted by: Cindy at May 12, 2009 8:36 AM

So if Locke gave Richard the compass in 1954 and Richard gave it back to him in 1977, where did it come from originally?

DUN DUN DUNNNNN

Posted by: Craig at May 12, 2009 8:50 AM

Despite my earlier comment I don't hate Kate either. I think she leads both Sawyer and Jack around by their noses, and won't make a choice, and I hate that. And I'm glad Jack is calling her on all that.

As for her failure to find Kate, well as Darth said, she's in a different time. And she's only been back about a week. She's been pretty busy flirting with Roger, kidnapping Ben and bringing him to Richard, participating in an uprising against Dharma, spying on the Others, getting captured, whining about "misery", trying to dissuade Jack from his insane plan, almost getting her ass shot for no good reason, and shoehorning herself between Sawyer and Juliet. Maybe she'll have some time to look for Claire next week.

Posted by: ed newman at May 12, 2009 9:12 AM

*failure to find Claire*

Posted by: ed newman at May 12, 2009 9:14 AM

DeadBessie: if my memory serves, Kate's step-father was also beating the crap out of her mom but the mom wouldn't leave him.

But she is really selfish and I agree she is getting dumber each episode.

Posted by: Rachel at May 12, 2009 2:00 PM

Why wouldn't Claire be in 1977? all the other 815ers are presumably there. We don't have evidence she is dead? Why wouldn't she jump with the rest of them if she's still alive?

Posted by: AdamO at May 12, 2009 3:37 PM

AdamO>> Good point. I'll echo what Cindy said about Kate's finding her bearings and not really having an opportunity to search as of yet. And if she were to find Claire in 1977, there would still be the matter of getting her back to the present to be with her mother and Aaron. Kate really has two major tasks to tackle instead of just the one now. Given the opportunity, I don't think she would return to 2007 without first investigating the potential presence of Claire in 1977 - or at least she shouldn't if the writers are paying attention.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at May 12, 2009 5:22 PM

I was basically assuming that "ghost" Claire (or whatever she is) is with "ghost" Christian, which - while it might be true - is not necessarily something the 815ers would know or would be able to assume, so that was an improper assumption.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at May 12, 2009 5:23 PM

Shoot--i found this episode quite dull..I don't give shit one about the Kate/Sawyer/Juliet subplot. But I'm looking forward to the finale. The last two season finales have been awesome...I'm hoping this one brings the pain, too.

Posted by: stryker1121 at May 12, 2009 6:32 PM

I also think Claire is ghost-Claire now and is with Christian somewhere.

Posted by: Cindy at May 12, 2009 9:58 PM

ditto Cindy and Darth.

Posted by: Rachel at May 13, 2009 12:36 AM

Rachel--I too remember that Kate's stepfather was beating her mother, but the mother was too pathetic to leave him. But Kate didn't seem to feel compelled to kill him until right after she found out her stepfather was also her biological father. I firmly believe Kate killed him solely for that reason, but tried to pass it off as something she did for dear old mum. Who is a grown woman and can make her own decisions and if she wants to stay with an abuser, that's her problem, not Kate's.

But I digress. I hate her character now, but I know she's not going anywhere, so I just grit my teeth and endure her. I'm not a big Juliet fan either, but mainly because the actress doesn't seem to have any expression beyond a smug smile. Really hate that smile.

I agree with stryker that this episode was kind of dull and didn't seem to go anywhere. The whole point seemed to be just getting people physically where they needed to be--John at Jacob's cabin, Sawyer and co. on the sub, Jack and co. with the bomb. But it's been a stellar season so I can live with a few subpar episodes.

Posted by: DeadBessie at May 13, 2009 9:30 AM












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