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"Game Of Thrones" - "The Wolf And The Lion"

By TK | Posted Under TV Reviews | Comments (52)



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For those of you who’ve been wondering when this show would start to pick up, when things would start to get nasty and violent, I give you “The Wolf And The Lion.” Episode five is where all of the machinations and scheming begins to come to a head, where all of the paths that our now-beloved characters have been set on, be it by choice, fate or plot, begin to be made clear. Their lives are now, finally, changed forever and the events that have been set in motion make us realize that the game truly is afoot.

Despite being one of the faster-paced episodes (which is saying something, since each week has left me pretty breathless), there’s a phenomenal amount of information that was passed along this week. New characters, such as Catelyn’s batty sister Lysa Arryn and Ser Loras Tyrell, known as “The Knight Of Flowers,” are introduced to add yet more layers of complexity to an already labyrinthine tangle of storylines. It’s also easily the most bloody and violent episode — the finale of the jousting tourney was a horror show, to put it kindly. Gregor Clegane is shown to not just be a terrifying brute, but also a likely psychotic who beheads his own horse when it fails him, and then tries to kill his own brother. The battle of Gregor and Sandor was pretty gripping stuff, a grinding, brutish clash between two armored giants. When Robert finally calls it off, it led to one of the best moments of the episode — Sandor, The Hound, ducking his brothers swipe and immediately dropping to a knee, sword plunged downward in supplication, all in one amazingly fluid motion. It’s a matter of seconds, but go back and watch it — it’s impressive.

As always, though, I find that some of my favorite vignettes are those quiet scenes with only two characters verbally sparring, and “The Wolf And The Lion” did not disappoint. Whether it was the scheming of Robert’s brother Renly and his lover Loras, the odd yet fascinating reminiscing between Cersei and Robert, or Ned and Ser Barristan Selmy recounting their days as respected adversaries, or the best of all, the silently seething, venomous repartee between Littlefinger and The Spider, the episode was replete with all the juicy, slickly written dialogue you could ask for.

But of course, fate is cruelest to Ned Stark and Tyrion Lannister. Tyrion finds himself in the clutches of Catelyn Stark, who despite his best cajolings, still believes him to be responsible for the assassination attempt on Bran. Things go from bad to worse for him as they take refuge at the home of Catelyn’s sister, the widowed Lysa, once married to the now-dead former Hand Jon Arryn. And I’ll say this — when it comes to faithfulness to the book, I wondered if HBO would pull their punch when it came to Lysa. They did not, and she is every inch as shrill, unstable and creepily maternal as she should be. Lysa’s onset of madness results in Tyrion being thrown into a sky cell, one of the more intense moments of the show. The depiction of the Vale and it’s terrifying, dizzying heights was gorgeously rendered — not perfectly, perhaps, but the art and form of the castle and its surroundings was remarkable and truly captured the scope of this lonely, grim abode.

As for poor Ned Stark, things went poorly to say the least. We now understand what happens when you know too much, and while the fight with Jaime Lannister (who continues to be brilliantly depicted) was intense and pretty well-done, when Ned is ultimately cut down, the mood of the show plummets into darkness. Rightfully so — it spells dark days for the Stark and Lannisters both, one must guess, as the Imp and the Hand are now both in grim straits.

“The Wolf And The Lion” began what felt like the culmination of events set in motion over the last four episodes. Its pace was breakneck and there was a ton that I didn’t even mention, most that I liked — the appearance of Bronn the sellsword who has a brief, clever conversation with Tyrion after the brutal raid that they survive. The small council meeting that Robert presides over, where Ned truly realizes that the friend he once had in the King is no more. Ned’s resignation as Hand felt so swift and had a sense of finality to it that it could only foreshadow the darker turn of events at the show’s conclusion. Theon Greyjoy continues to be a sinister delight. And as in the book, the death of Jory Cassel was truly sad.

There were missteps, though not many. The scene with Bran and Maester Luwin was boring and in some ways pointless. It was meant to show Bran’s childishness and how he misses his mother, but instead it just felt like a window into an otherwise dull moment. The two good things that came out of it were learning about some of the house mottos, or words, and the brief moment with Greyjoy. Otherwise, it felt like time wasted. And while I enjoyed the scene with Loras and Renly from a dialogue perspective (caution: book comparison alert!), their relationship is at best alluded to in the novels, and to bring it out so overtly and suddenly seemed to take some of the subtlety away.

Yet despite the minor quibbles, the episode was another success overall. The writing continues to blister and crackle, with few wasted words or moments (other than the scene with Bran). Every action, every scene, every shot serves a critical purpose — it’s as if you don’t want to leave the room or even blink for fear of missing something. The episode was thick with moments of brutality and bloodshed, from the slaying of horse to the slaying of poor Jory Cassel. Yet interspersed with all of that blood was an episode that took the story into the next phase of its evolution. The dense, worldmaking buildup of the last few episodes has finally received its payoff, and it was well worth it. There are five episodes remaining in this first season, and while I dread the end of that tenth episode, I’m finding myself more and more excited to see how they storm through the final five.









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Comments

I lit'rally was just thinking, "I hope TK puts up the Game of Thrones review soon."

Well done, sir.

Off to read now.

Posted by: Riles at May 16, 2011 12:23 PM

I was holding my breath through pretty much the entire final 5 minutes. It was definitely intense!

Posted by: chad at May 16, 2011 12:23 PM

Hey, HBO! A little self-editing never hurt anyone! It sounded like Loras was duodenum-deep on a slurpy machine up in that bitch. His positioning was more than enough to understand what was happening, people. And all I could think about what how awful that shaving paste must've smelled. It looked like baby shit, pre-solid foods edition.

Lysa was all the crazy I expected, and they found a nutty-looking lady to fill her shoes. Good lord. And the looks on Catelyn's and Tyrion's faces were priceless.

Now, I liked the sky cell until they pulled away and showed it from afar. I expected it to be much smaller and more cramped, but the damned thing had an archway! And the bricks have more than enough space for an enterprising, desperate person to attempt to scale his way out . . . Eh, whatever. I'm quibbling over details because this was the best episode yet.

And another great review from TK, proving that you don't need a big penis to write well.

Posted by: Kballs at May 16, 2011 12:33 PM

I hope Lena Headey's detractors are a little more satisfied, that scene between Cersei and the King was excellent.

How freaky was that scene at the Vale, I'm still recovering from it.

I just received the first three books. As soon as I finish the book I'm currently reading I'm going to dive in them.

Posted by: John W at May 16, 2011 12:33 PM

"When Robert finally calls it off, it led to one of the best moments of the episode — Sandor, The Hound, ducking his brothers swipe and immediately dropping to a knee, sword plunged downward in supplication, all in one amazingly fluid motion. It’s a matter of seconds, but go back and watch it — it’s impressive."
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Watched it twice! That was truly awesome.

Posted by: Riles at May 16, 2011 12:36 PM

Kballs - seriously? With all the sex they have shown so far graphically (including in this episode Theon going at with Rose, otherwise known at the whore that everyone but Jon has slept with) you are going to complain about a heard but not seen blow job? Issues much?

TK - oddly the one thing I have missed in my four read through of the books was the physical part of Loras/Remly. Apparently, I was too concerned with all the beheadings and other physical going ons.

The tourney scene in the beginning really has set a standard for combat for the rest of the show. It was amazingly well done.

Posted by: sammy at May 16, 2011 12:41 PM

I thought the jousting death last week was pretty violent. It was nothing compared to The Mountain cutting off his horse's head, or Jory's death.

I'm glad I'm not losing my memory. I didn't remember Renly Lannister and Ser Loras being lovers from the book. I don't think it's a good addition. I don't see what it adds, except to make all the ladies squealing and sighing over the Knight of the Flowers that much more ridiculous. But I'm willing to be patient. The other changes they've made to the storyline have made sense after awhile.

I have to get confirmation on another point: is this the first time the opening sequence has contained a map of The Eyrie? Because I've never noticed it till this week.

Lysa was great, just perfect. It was a short scene, but you got a terrific feel for how off her rocker she is. And you can see that Catelyn is beginning to realize how badly she fucked up. That's what makes this story so engrossing. Our heros make mistakes. Understandable mistakes, sure, but they make them and they pay the consequences.

Posted by: Wednesday at May 16, 2011 12:41 PM

sammy,

I don't give a shit if it's a man or a woman going down there. That sound crawls up and down my spine and drives me crazy. So yes, I have an issue with disgusting, over-the-top slurping noises. And excessive, ummm, air expulsion during sex. Not a dealbreaker, but it ain't gettin' me up in the morning, if you catch my drift.

Nice assumption, though. Hey, maybe I don't like guys with beards either, since there was a guy with a beard in the scene! Or long hair! FUCK LONG HAIR!!!!!

Posted by: Kballs at May 16, 2011 12:47 PM

Wednesday,

Putting Loras in a relationship with Renly makes sense. I'll say no more to avoid spoilers, but I can see where they could take it.

Posted by: Kballs at May 16, 2011 12:49 PM

Wednesday, making Renly and Loras lovers it's not an addition of ths show. It's taken directly from the books.

Yes, they definitely HBO-ized it with the shaving scene and bj, but make no mistake, in the books Renly and Loras are gay lovers. It's hinted at over and over again by various characters. However, because we never had a Renly or Loras perspective chapter, or actually see them in the act, it's never confirmed 100%. That said, I've known lots of people who never made that connection.

The openly physical nature of that scene aside, I think was very well done. It did a good job of setting up the Renly character, which was needed, and it was also the first time we ever heard of Stanis.

It wasn't until well after the episode ended that I realized that there were no scenes at the Wall or across the Narrow Sea, so no Jon or Dany "chapters" in this episode, if you will.

I thought everything about the Eyrie was pretty much spot on. They did a good job of making Bronn look like a bad ass during the fight. Dinklage continued to be outstanding and it was good to see him get into the action. Both Lysa Arryn and Sweet Robin were fantastic. Irritating, weird and annoying as they have always been.

I enjoyed the small council scene. I thought they played it perfectly with everyone hitting the right notes.

The scene between Robert and Cersei was the best of the bunch of the wholly new additional scenes. It was outstanding. I think it did wonders for both characters. I was really impressed with it.

I didn't mind the change the whole Ned/Jamie scene at all. They needed to make it a little more dramatic and they had been building up the Ned/Jamie rivalry quite a bit up til that point. I always feel bad for Jory though. I like Jory. He fought pretty well up until he ran into the Kingslayer. I really like the guy playing Jamie. I wasn't convinced at first, but I feel as if he's nailed it.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at May 16, 2011 12:49 PM

Dammit HBO, I look forward to Sundays, but dread Monday morning, since I am so wound up after the Sunday night show that I can't fall asleep! I am going to have to start waiting until Monday afternoon to watch this or heavily sedate myself on Sunday.

Posted by: MRod at May 16, 2011 12:52 PM

I'd love to see someone like Tarantino direct one of these dialogue-intense episodes. It'd be interesting to see him film something like Varys v Baelish or the Cersei-Robert scene.

There was so much to love here: Varys, Cersei-Robert, the duel between the Cleganes, the Sky Cells (loved that look down), Bronn, the looks on Cat's and Tyrion's face at the spectacle of Lysa and Little Lord Robert Arryn made at the Eyrie and, of course, the long-a-coming duel between Ned & Jaime.

I liked how scenes between Loras & Renly, Theon and Roz (the aforementioned "Roz with the great big...") and Cersei & Robert seem like preludes to something bigger for each of those characters. Makes it appear that what comes next isn't so random but plots that had been laid way back when by other players no one knew where in the game.

I didn't even miss Jon or Dany at all this week. This felt natural. Felt like this is the way the story should flow and that's key. With so many threads, the show creators need to be able to not have a major character in a show for one episode and know that the audience isn't going to be confused/disappointed if that character isn't there.

Top, top marks (even if we got penis when we didn't want it).

Posted by: Fredo at May 16, 2011 12:52 PM

"to bring it out so overtly and suddenly seemed to take some of the subtlety away."

All I'm gonna say is, sexual subtlety was right properly defenestrated with the rather audible slapping of Leonidas McBarbarianMongol thrusting behind his underage bride.

Nevertheless, good form TK.

Posted by: D-Day at May 16, 2011 12:54 PM

Well, after complaining that Gregor didn't look big or menacing enough last week, I look like a fool. He certainly looked like a freakin' monster this week. Although Loras doesn't exactly look like he could support a suit of armor, let alone be one of the best knights of the realm. I was concerned that my copy of the book was missing a chapter, or I'd skipped something with the Loras/Renly scene. And for a show with a limited budget, they did a good job with the Eyrie. All in all this was a hell of an episode. Even without the water dancer.

Posted by: Mrcreosote at May 16, 2011 12:57 PM

Kballs, it's not new. They did the same thing when Roz was fellating Tyrion in the first episode (when he's introduced). That'd lead me to believe that it's something they've decided to include by choice.

Wednesday, as everyone says, it's in the books but only hinted at. (Two words: Margaery Tyrell?) I liked the scene because it makes the decisions that Renly takes later on feel appropriate and not rushed.

Posted by: Fredo at May 16, 2011 12:58 PM

Also, this show doesn't have the luxury of the amount of subtlety contained in the books. There is too much going on and too many families, characters and plots to get subtle with anything. A look or suggestion or side comment would get lost in the larger moments, so they're streamlining some shit to avoid bogging the show down in supposition. Or so I suppose.

Posted by: Kballs at May 16, 2011 1:01 PM

Word, Fredo. That was fucking gross. I forgot about that because I was drizzzzzznunk for the premiere.

Posted by: Kballs at May 16, 2011 1:03 PM

I didn't pay much attention to Renly/Loras when I first read the books years ago, but it was obvious during a reread before the show started.

Tower of the Hand has a spoiler-heavy essay documenting it: http://www.towerofthehand.com/essays/chrisholden/loras_and_renly_gay.html

Posted by: Jeremy at May 16, 2011 1:03 PM

I haven't read the books, and I'll admit that I started watching this show as something to tide me over till True Blood started again. I had very low expectations, just because the subject matter isn't really my thing (or so I thought). After watching last night's episode, I said out loud, "Shit's getting GOOD!!!" This is currently my favorite show on television.

I have to agree with kballs, though, that the noises during the BJ were distracting. All I thought was, "What the hell is he DOING to his dick to make such sounds?"

Posted by: jimbob at May 16, 2011 1:05 PM

This was easily the best episode from a bunch of great episodes. The performances are very good across the board, but it's becoming clear that Peter Dinklage is in another stratosphere. He is KILLING IT is Tyrion, and it's a joy to watch. I wish he had more screen time, but at least this way I greet his scenes with eager anticipation.

I agree that the sky cell was a disappointment. Really, each cell gets an arch and a keystone? Although it does speak to aristocratic vanity. Imagine their delight at the number of masons who tumbled to their deaths during cell construction.

Also, the Loras/Renly slurpfest wasn't a fail because it crossed some line of decorum; it was a fail because the sound effect sounded like it was imported from a third-rate episode of "Red Shoe Diaries." This show is better than that.

Posted by: Joel at May 16, 2011 1:08 PM

I wonder if people got so distracted at the gay relationship between Loras/Renly and the unnecessary and odd suckling sounds below, that they missed all of the pretty important dialogue in that scene. A lot of what was said in there was pretty important for the Renly character and what is to come (and when I say "come", I don't mean Renly in Loras' mouth).

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at May 16, 2011 1:09 PM

I was surprised by Jory's death, but since this is the first pseudo-major character to get killed I think it was the "no one is safe" moment on the show. I may, or may not, have gasped out loud when he was killed. The entire fight between Ned and Jamie had me cringing waiting for Ned to get killed. At this stage I'm just assuming Ned will be killed before the season is out. He's way too good a man to survive the number of daggers pointed at him from all sides.

Arya was fantastic. I loved her confrontation with the city guards and her protestations of "I'm a GIRL!" always crack me up because she gets so frustrated.

I'm confused by who is working with how at this point. It seems that Valerys is playing on at least 2 different sides, I don't get what the point was of giving Ned information about the poison.

I think we need an episode discussion column for those of us who haven't read the books because theorizing here is, I know, largely pointless for many of you.

Great episode. GoT is one of the very few shows I look forward to watching "live".

Posted by: TylerDFC at May 16, 2011 1:13 PM

Could you imagine if hearing a horribly-performed BJ caused short-term amnesia, forbiddendonut? Roommates of hypersexual college students would flunk the fuck out.

Posted by: Kballs at May 16, 2011 1:20 PM

Tyler, probably right that you need that discussion since for those that have read the books, we know how things connect.

In any case, on Varys: two things to keep in mind. 1) He has no official power in the Seven Kingdoms. He's not noble-born. He has no great house behind him. He gets by on the word of his "birds" and his own head. He's learned to survive in King's Landing by being deceitful.

2) He does genuinely care for the Kingdoms. Being one of the few low-born characters in high places, he does have an appreciation for what the nobles do to the poor. So his actions do come from a place of good intentions. But he's not about to serve his own head by being forthright and honest a la Ned Stark.

Posted by: Fredo at May 16, 2011 1:27 PM

That would be problematice to say the least, Kballs.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at May 16, 2011 1:27 PM

Hooray for male, full-frontal nudity! Reminds me of the good old days of OZ!

Also, I love how they are portraying Loras & Renly - it was WAY too subtle in the books. Last night's episode went by so fast it seemed like mere minutes.

One more thing: the sky cell's floor was not slanted enough!!!

Posted by: SCG at May 16, 2011 1:31 PM

I've been refreshing Pajiba all morning waiting for this review and it did not disappoint. I agree with everyone who complained about the sound effects problems (in every situation it's been used thus far - seriously, what are you doing for that horrible slurping noise to occur??) and I feel like Renly/Loras was handled poorly. I get that it needed to be less subtle for TV, and how incredibly useful the dialogue was there, but I think it could have been a little less direct and still been effective. I got that they were lovers from the joust dialogue, I didn't need to watch Loras shave Renly, kthnx. The dialogue there was great, though.

Everything else about this episode was really fantastic. The Eyrie is lovely (and no, it was not in the title sequences before - they are adding locations each week dependent on where the characters are) and Lysa and her son are terrific in their weirdness. The Robert/Cersei and Varys/Littlefinger scenes were fantastic. And the violence in this was SPOT ON. I've studied stage combat, and so I have an extra special place in my heart for a good fight sequence. I even knew how they would end and found myself gasping at the right moments and terrified of what would happen. Beautifully executed (especially the aforementioned Battle of the Clegane's)!

I am terrified to watch some of the really hard stuff to come after seeing Jory's death. I was upset by that sequence in the book, of course, but it was so much harder to WATCH it happen! Oof, this show is gonna break me into a million pieces as we go on...so good!

Posted by: KatSings at May 16, 2011 1:33 PM

is this the first time the opening sequence has contained a map of The Eyrie

I read somewhere that the opening sequence is planned to not spoil locations so The map will change as the episodes travel to different areas.

Posted by: Paultera at May 16, 2011 1:43 PM

Mondays are actually bearable with Doctor Who and Game Of Thrones threads to visit here!

I'd weigh in more on Renly and Loras, but y'all covered it. Forbiddendonut's comment about a lack of perspective chapter was the main point I was going to make. I thought the scene played like something Martin would have written. Loras and Renly are underwritten if anything in the books, and I like this additional Macbeth-esque spin on the dynamic in their relationship.

The only thing that did bother me a little about Loras is that I pictured him more physically imposing. He is supposedly one of the premier hotshot fighters in the realm; I realize Gregor caught him unaware (and that plays exactly more or less as it did in the book), but it looks to me like Gregor could have stepped on him and killed him. I suppose a wide chest and tall stature is not required for fencing skill, as Syrio might remind us.

I dug the Cersei-Robert scene, and I liked that this episode rounded Robert out a bit more after I complained last week that the television show was portraying him shallower than I thought he was.

Another quibble for book loyalists: Ned should not be that much of a match for the Kingslayer. I understand Ned and Jaime are our two main antagonizing forces, so I appreciate what they were doing there, paying off their earlier trash-talking. It was a cool battle scene, so I guess I forgive it. I might have liked it even more, though, if Jaime had beheaded that guy that stabbed Ned in the leg.

Poor Jory. I guess eying that breast got you a knife in the eye.

Overall, I think the show is still doing great. It does feel rushed and constrained by the budget in scope, but with these performances this is about as good as I think we could hope.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at May 16, 2011 1:50 PM

Joel >> Really, each cell gets an arch and a keystone? Although it does speak to aristocratic vanity. Imagine their delight at the number of masons who tumbled to their deaths during cell construction.

Well done.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at May 16, 2011 1:53 PM

Another quibble for book loyalists: Ned should not be that much of a match for the Kingslayer. I understand Ned and Jaime are our two main antagonizing forces, so I appreciate what they were doing there, paying off their earlier trash-talking. It was a cool battle scene, so I guess I forgive it. I might have liked it even more, though, if Jaime had beheaded that guy that stabbed Ned in the leg.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at May 16, 2011 1:50 PM

Yeah, this is something that they have consciously changed in the show from the books. They really built up the Ned/Jamie rivalry, which is logical given the Stark/Lannister rivalry and made Ned more of a "bad ass".

I read a draft of the pilot episode a year or so ago (found it on-line somwheres) and the little verbal sparing between Ned and Jamie at Winterfell, which survived, was the first thing that struck me as odd. It was the first change that I wasn't really on board with. Ned was a great leader, but not a great fighter. He understood that battle was necessary, but wasn't a warrior in the way that Robert, Jamie, Selmy and others are. It was part of his duty and honor.

I agree, the book-version of Ned wouldn't have stood much a chance, but they changed him a bit in that regard. It is a minor thing, but I guess I had a lot of time to get used to the idea of it.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at May 16, 2011 2:00 PM

Recorded it! Still haven;t seen it! NANANANANANANA not listening!

Posted by: logan at May 16, 2011 2:09 PM

Forbiddendonut >> I agree it is a minor thing that changes nothing fundamental. I guess the reason it irks me a little is that Martin built up the Kingslayer so much as a near unbeatable warrior that I actually felt dread for his opponents whenever he entered the battlefield, which was a cool and effective device for a universe that has so much grounding to it.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at May 16, 2011 2:53 PM

I really really like the interactions between characters that we would not have seen in the books, since each chapter in the book is written from the perspective of each of the main characters (Dany, Ned, Cat, Tyrion, Bran, Arya, and Jon, did I miss anybody?). In particular the sparring between Robert and Cersei, and also Littlefinger and Varys. These moments really help flesh out a totally ginormous cast.

This was definitely the best episode of the bunch, and the fight scene at the end of the episode I actually said aloud: "Shit just got real, ya'll!"

Posted by: FrontierP at May 16, 2011 3:41 PM

Also: wrt Ned being portrayed as a bigger badass swordsman in the television show than in the books. Flashback to the fight at the Tower of Joy with Ser Arthur Dayne, who was supposed to be the biggest badass like ever Ned walked away from that one alive, and Arthur did not.

Posted by: FrontierP at May 16, 2011 3:46 PM

As someone who hasn't read the books, I took the Kingslayer to be somewhat of a coward. They referenced him killing the King by stabbing him in the back, right?

Interesting that (per the books) he should have overpowered Ned, because I've been getting the exact opposite impression from the show.

Posted by: Riles at May 16, 2011 3:57 PM

Since I haven't read the books, I always interpreted Jamie Lannister's skills more boastful than actually any good. He and Ned were always taking potshots at each other over jousting and dueling, and I just assumed that Jamie was more about boasting how good he was than how good he actually was.

Posted by: cpw at May 16, 2011 4:00 PM

FrontierP

It was never my impression that Ned walked away from that fight because he was a bad ass swordsman. If I recall, it was 7 vs. 3 and only 2 of the seven survived.

If Ned could have gone up against Arthur Dayne one-on-one that would have left two 3-on-1's and, arguably, that would have been easy pickens.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at May 16, 2011 4:03 PM

cpw - great minds...

Posted by: Riles at May 16, 2011 4:03 PM

Forbiddendonut: Yeah that is true. And Ned told Bran that he would have been killed if not for Howland Reed, the frog-eater. I take back my reading of Ned as uber bad-ass.

And also: I think that there is something else going on in that particular fight. I'm surprised that particular flashback is not in the television series (maybe it is later?) because it seems so integral to the first book.

I will shut up now because there are SERIOUS SPOILERS in that whole scene.

Posted by: FrontierP at May 16, 2011 4:08 PM

FrontierP >> I'm going to avoid spoilers related to that incident, but I've read at least one interesting theory about how Ned emerged from that alive. In any given battle - much like any given Sunday - I suppose any warrior can get lucky, particularly in the madness of group combat. I don't think there's any dispute, though, that the television series is implying that the fencing prowess of Ned is on a level playing field with that of Jaime, and the book certainly does not do that.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at May 16, 2011 4:21 PM

FrontierP & Forbiddendonut >> Ah, you covered it in the refresh interim. Anyway, I thought we have yet to receive the precise details on what transpired there beyond what you have already described.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at May 16, 2011 4:23 PM

DarthCorleone: Martin has not explicitly spelled out what happened in that flashback, but reading between the lines, it is not too hard to piece together. Like Renly and Loras being totally gay for each other.

Posted by: FrontierP at May 16, 2011 4:35 PM

So, right when Loras knocked Gregor out of the saddle, HBO decided I would like a surprise cut to that romantic comedy with Common and Queen Latifah. It was less funny than you might think, although the wife begs to differ.

Posted by: Matty at May 16, 2011 4:58 PM

Wonderful episode, and what I am really enjoying about the series is that it works as a companion to the book.

For those that aren't familiar with the books, each chapter is written from a specific character's point of view, so the reader isn't privy to the "off-screen" goings on of all the characters.

To me, it's an incredible treat to see private conversations between non-POV characters like Littlefinger & Varys, Cersei & Robert and Renly & Loras. Not only does this flesh out (no pun intended) characters that can seem one-dimensional on the page, it gives book readers a refreshing, sometimes surprising take on what could have been a predictable rehash.

Posted by: TL at May 16, 2011 6:53 PM

I know this has been posted on Pajiba before, but for those wondering about showing new locations during the title sequence, there is a lot of information in this interview (along with beautifully detailed photos):

http://www.artofthetitle.com/

Posted by: Scully at May 16, 2011 6:54 PM

I hadn't seen that interview before, Scully.
Thanks!

Posted by: Rykker at May 16, 2011 7:02 PM

Well done TK!

Posted by: Vee at May 16, 2011 10:39 PM

I still don't know anyone's name --I call them the blondes, the albinos, Boromir's peeps, and the Knight's Tale guy-- except Drogo (unf!), but gorram it this show has me riveted.

Posted by: ceejeemcbeegee at May 17, 2011 2:32 AM

The series is really picking up. While I'm watching it and each episode nears the 50 minute mark I dread the screen fading to black and having to wait until next week to see more.

Posted by: Muteki at May 17, 2011 5:19 AM

Well I like the full-frontal male nudity, and the ass slapping/dick slurping sounds. They are designed to strip out that fake romance-y-ness
that hollywood sex scenes are usually required to show. Sex in this world is ass-slappy and slurpy, like in real life, gritty like everything else in the seven kingdoms, where life is cheap, nasty, brutish and short. But, then, unlike some here, I'm not trying to deny any buried homophobic tendencies.

I will say that if they wanted to carry it further into gritty reality, and make it even better, I could do with less of the orgasmic eye-fluttering in the faces of the various fellated men the very second we're meant to believe a mouth has touched their cock. I mean, it feels good, sure, but you don't almost pass out the moment anyone STARTS to go down on you.

Posted by: John G. at May 17, 2011 8:39 AM

Hey, John G., I like boys getting it on. That's dead sexy. But as the veteran giver of many blowjobs, I can honestly say that the slurping thing portrayed as common is really not. That's a sound folks make somewhere along the line because they think it might be exciting for the receiver (and sometimes it is), but it's not the sound all bjs make every time. Unless that's a feature of this particular fantasy world. I don't think the objections are due to homophobia, but rather that we think a big audio arrow pointing to what's going on is unnecessary, especially when it has been made quite obvious.

Posted by: RebaSays at May 17, 2011 1:11 PM