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Well, I didn't think Violet was dead. It caught me by surprise. What also caught me by surprise was Ben getting owned by Tate after he got out of the shower. Ben is such a useless douche of a character. I know he and Vivien have been making dumb moves since the show started, but having him know his wife was raped in their house by an unknown, not captured assailant, yet still living in said house with your daughter? Really?
I wasn't pleased with Larry not framing Constance either, I thought that's where they were going with it. And I also loved how dumb Travis is to not be pissed with being dead. I hope to see more Krazy Hayden next week!!!!!

I hadn't guessed Violet was dead. Guess I'm not very observant.

Constance is a goddam monster, but damned if Jessica Lange is not making her so entertaining to watch, I don't even mind that Constance is a monster.

RE "Speaking of, where is the ghost of Hugo Langdon? Why has he yet to make an appearance?"

I was wondering the same thing.

Also, the murder house is getting kinda crowded, what with all the recent additions. They're gonna have to timeshare on the haunting or something. Make reservations so they don't get confused as to which one is supposed to torment whom at what time.

And, in case I haven't mentioned it before, Jessica Lange is still smoking hot. Even with the odd, '60s-era hairdo.

The woman is 62 years old, y'all.

Thanks Kilmo. Somehow I missed that.
And I agree about Ben and Vivian. My God those two have to be the worst parents in the history of television.

I wasn't confused by the Beau-in-the-attic thing, but I might be a little fuzzy on the timeline. What made you think that Beau was already dead when Constance and her kids moved into the Murder House?

Here's what I didn't get. You mention that Constance got very excited when she learned Tate was a ghost in Murder House. She already knew this. She angrily confronted ghost-Tate a couple weeks ago about impregnating Vivian. Was this a continuity error, or did she have a good reason to pretend not to know that Tate had died in Murder House (a detail that would have been all over the news in the wake of a school shooting, incidentally) in the conversation with Larry?

Ahhhhh I fucking love this show!

*First, the EXCELLENT reveal of Violet's fate. You knew it was coming, but it still packed such a punch because we got to see her actual reaction to it (and Ryan Murphy said Ms. Farmiga had not seen the Violet dummy before filming, so at least part of her reaction was 100% real). And my God, how delicious was the tension leading up to Tate revealing it to Vi? The creepy crawl space, the flies, those panicked "Oh my God!"s from the exterminator and his subsequent demise at Tate's hand (how terrifying was THAT, with Tate scrambling out of the darkness?), the slow burn of Tate leading Vi into the crawlspace and telling her "Just remember, everything's okay. And I love you." And then the flashlight playing over the rigor mortis contorted body. So gruesome, and heartbreaking, and strangely reminiscent of The Ring. Well done AHS, very well done indeed.

*The AMAZE-BALLS makeup/CG work on the burnt family (I mean, the smoke? The still glowing cinders on the edges of some of the burns? Brilliant!).

*And of course, Constance. My beautiful, psychotic, manipulative, broken Constance. The reveal of what she did with Hugo ("He means no more to me than dog shit."), her coldness to Larry in the prison...fuck me, I want Jessica Lange to be my crazy-ass stage mom.

@DarthCorleone:

Constance is excited Travis the hunky boy-toy died in the house.

DarthC, JoRo says Constance got excited that TRAVIS died in the house. Because of how she can now ghost-bone him.

Dammit...fumble fingers.

Anyway, I had no idea what that was about, mainly because I had forgotten what Hugo looked like. I thought maybe it was meant to indicate that Hayden was a crazy killer while still alive or something, but your explanation makes a LOT more sense.

And I also forgot to mention in my earlier comment...that fight scene between Ben and Tate was incredible. I hate Ben with a fiery passion, but for once I was cheering him on. I think I even yelled at my TV "Yeah Ben, fuck him up!" But man, Tate fights like some sort of berserker.

OH AND ALSO, how adorable was Travis with the little girls??

SO ADORABLE.

This ep was everything I wanted it to be and more. Jessica Lange is owning EVERYTHING and they gave her so much to be batshit awesome crazy with this week. Her absolute disgust towards Larry was just gorgeous. And I love the conversation between Larry and his still burning wife about breaking vows. Fantastic to have her turn his rage towards himself instead of Constance.

I loved the whole Violet/Tate everything of this week. I had a hot second where I thought I was wrong about her being dead, when he suggested killing themselves, but that explained itself. Their chemistry is just so good.

What I'm looking forward to is the moment where dear little so-in-love Violet finds out that her Romeo raped and impregnated her mother. I feel like that's going to be a rather big problem that will lead to a lot of undead sleeping on the ghost couch for Tate.

Here's the timeline confusion for me Darth.

For some reason, I thought the Langdons (Constance, Hugo, Tate, Beau and Addie) lived in the Murder House first. Constance kills Hugo and Moira and then, presumably, they have to leave. Money issues? Tate says "they lost the house."

Then Larry and his wife and girls move in. He takes up with Constance (who I assumed lived next door at that point, but that could be wrong) and his wife torches herself and the kids. Then Constance moves Tate and Addie back into the house to live with Larry. And that's where Tate dies after burning Larry and shooting up the school.

So when was Beau killed? He was killed in the house, this we know. And by Larry. But when?

And MM, ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, of course that was Hugo Langdon. Thank you.

This is NOT to defend Tate or try to make him out to be some tragic hero. HOWEVER. In each instance of bad behavior Tate's motive is always pretty clear:
He deceived Vivian into having sex because Mrs. Montgomery was grieving so hard for a baby, and he wanted to comfort her. (Motive, remember, not absolution.)
He murdered the gay couple because they had abandoned their plans to have a baby, and again, poor sad Mrs. Montgomery wants a baby. (That business with the poker, however...I ain't defending that at all.)
During last week's opening scene around the dinner table he shouted at Addie that Lawrence had killed their brother. Don't ask me how he knew that.
He killed the exterminator guy to prevent Violet's death from being discovered.

I don't like any of the characters on this show, living or dead. I think that makes it better because there is no one I'm particularly rooting for. I'm just rooting for as much batshit crazy as my TV can hold during approx. 44 min. of runtime.

I'm pretty sure Larry killed Beau after his family killed themselves and Constance moved her family back in. It's definitely a wonky timeline though.

Where was Moira?

Simone515: Are you serious, or is this some kind of weird troll?

Moira appears as a young sexy thang with garters to males (or possibly just to people who can't "see things as they truly are," whatever that means) and she appears as a harmless middle-aged frump, sometimes with a bad eye and sometimes with two good eyes, to women and/or people who can see things etc. etc.

I realize some people have jumped into the series w/o seeing the earlier episodes but sheesh. God gave you Hulu; put it to use.

I think the point Simone was making, Jerce (and I could be wrong) is that Moira's moral compass appearance nonwithstanding, none of the other ghosts seem to be able to change their form at will. Or maybe they do. e.g. THAT TATE THING IN THE BASEMENT. Or was that Beau?

Some of them appear to be able to leave the house. Hayden made it to the police station before disappearing from the car and Tate and Violet made it down to the beach...

Can someone clarify for me how Hayden died? I am getting totally mixed up on that. Ben killed her and buriend her under the Gazebo? No? Lawrence killed her? She died on the table getting an abortion? Did I miss an episode or is it still unclear?

I'd have to go back and watch those year headers before the scenes, and I'm not that invested in the details of this show to give them too much scrutiny. Was it established that Larry was still with his wife when he killed Beau? That does sound familiar to me, in which case Constance would have to have moved out, back in, and then out of the house. If that was the case, though, what was Beau doing in the attic of a house where he didn't live in the first place? Or was Constance still living there at that point and Larry moved in with his wife after she moved out? Now I'm confused. It makes more sense for Beau to have been killed by Larry after Larry's family was already dead.

All the ghosts (Moira, Hayden, Chad, Patrick, Tate) were able to leave on Halloween only, as "the dead may roam the earth". Violet wasn't dead at that point, so she and Tate went to the beach. Moira went to visit her mother.

At the very end of that episode, it showed every ghost walking slowly down the street at sunrise, coming back to the house. Hayden was magically spirited from the back of the police car to the house, hence the security guard in the next episode saying, "She must have jumped out at a stop sign..."

"I’m starting to think I would tune in each week just to hear her read the phone book."

But the phone book is organized.

Still, I wouldn't miss a minute.

Re Violet Is Dead: Credit to Mr Wong (the writer of this episode, not you, manic Ryan Murphy) for making the twist be /Violet's/ discovery of her being dead. The writing (with the running through the kitchen etc.) gave the audience credit for knowing already.

She's dead? Already?
I think this is the reason why I checked out of this show after a couple episodes. Feels like they've already shot their creative load.

Claire - Larry clonked her on the head with a shovel then buried her under the gazebo.

"Speaking of, where is the ghost of Hugo Langdon? Why has he yet to make an appearance?"

Joanna, he did make a brief appearance. Hayden took out some of her ghostly frustrations by having sex with his ghost and stabbing him "to death," only to have him immediately "revive" and go in search of a sandwich.

As far as I can tell, Constance lived in the MH when she killed Hugo and Moira, then had to move out presumably due to money issues. She seduced Larry so she could get back in the house, whereupon she seduced Larry into killing Beau. Larry hit the skids and lost the house after being 'gaslighted' by Tate, hence Constance had to move back next door. The confusion comes from the flashbacks being out of order.
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I don't want to believe, because I am a fan-girl for Tate but I think he has some ulterior motives here. In all the interviews that I have read, it always says that Tate is the real monster of the show. I can understand his whole 'solutions' towards Nora and her baby-problem, protecting Violet. I can honestly see it from both sides quite frankly. I can justify Tate very easily, and I can not justify him.

Why I can justify him: He protected Violet from the very beginning because she truly did love him. Typical stereotype of the unwanted, unloved, dysfunctional child. He wanted love and didn't get any from his mom or his dad. No one at school noticed him (refer back to the meeting in the library - quiet kid etc.) Plus, he seems to have some real mommy issues (pardon the cliche there) and that could justify the school shootings. As for the whole impregnation, Nora wants a baby. Tate promised her a baby. Thus, his baby will now be hers.

Why I can't justify him: He seems manipulative of Violet's feelings because she is sort of 'innocent' I guess towards the whole new boyfriend experience. He always says I love you towards her and even gets her to lie to the police about sending her mother away. He has this adorable, lovable expression about him but you can never be too trusting of this. He could literally be playing everyone and we would never know because of his adorableness. I just think that from the scenes that I have watched, Tate could easily be the whole mastermind behind the Harmon's moving there. If you watch singular scenes, you'll see that he plans the whole psychiatrist visit.

Like I said, I REALLY don't want to believe that Tate is the evil one here. But ... I think he is hiding more than he knows, and these last two episodes will probably bring nothing positive towards his reputation.

:( It's a sad truth.