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The Trouble with Dramedies / The TV Whore
January 16, 2007

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Recently, I received an e-mail from Kathie over at GiveMeMyRemote. She said that their forums had frequent debates over how television awards should deal with the growing category of dramedies, the hour-long dramas with a comedic backbone (said backbone typically being sarcastic and dark). In putting my thoughts together to respond to her, I found myself getting a little long-winded (as regular readers have surely figured out, the TV Whore basks in his long-windedness) and realized this would make for a good article to disseminate to the masses. Consider this that article.

So, what to do with dramedies? The problem, of course, is easy to identify — it’s a matter of categorization. These shows are often thrown willy-nilly into the drama or comedy category, and either classification is wrought with problems. In the drama category, these shows often face an uphill battle because they are not as heady or serious as their purely dramatic brethren. Of course, last night’s Golden Globes showed that this isn’t always the case, as “Grey’s Anatomy,” a quintessential dramedy, bested more “serious” and “worthy” competition (and for the record, “Big Love” was unquestionably the best of that nominated bunch). On the comedy side of things, dramedies get an advantage against the half-hour comedies, for the same reason they are disadvantaged in the drama category — they are more “serious” and “meaningful” than the half-hour laugh-fests. Again turning to last night’s Golden Globes, we can see this problem in the flesh — while I’m an big fan of “Ugly Betty,” the winner of the best comedy/musical award, there’s nobody who can convince me that it’s a better comedy than fellow nominees “Entourage,” “Weeds,” or “The Office.”

Now the upside of the problem being so easy to identify is that it’s also easy to pinpoint the only workable solution — a Best Dramedy category (or “Light Drama,” or “Drama, Now with Fewer Calories” … whatever you’d like). Just looking over the shows that were nominated for best drama and comedy last night, we already have three potential nominees for our new category: “Desperate Housewives,” “Betty,” and “Grey’s.” The advantage to this system would be twofold — it not only puts these shows on a more equal footing, it also creates more room in their former categories for shows that rightfully belong. For example, suddenly there’s room for “Scrubs” in the Best Comedy category or “Dexter” in the Best Drama category.

But wait, you might say. Should “Dexter” be considered a drama or a dramedy? After all, it’s wrought with sarcasm and black humor, which is what we said defined our dramedies. Well this is a valid point, and one that raises one of the problems with this approach. In our new Award Show World, how exactly do we classify the shows? This is particularly difficult because the “dramedy” tag encompasses an overall tone, attitude, and worldview, which is, of course, more complicated than simply saying a show must have sarcasm and/or black comedy. So in this new Award Show World, let’s take the easy out and avoid a formal definition altogether. I may be wrong in the specifics of this, but I believe that, for the Oscars at least, it’s up to the studios to decide certain categories. For example, a studio can decide if an actor’s role is more appropriate as lead or supporting, and can push for a nomination as such. So why not take that approach in our new Award Show World? Let the studios and networks decide and declare, before the nomination period, how they choose to define their hour-long shows. Let ABC say, “Well, we think ‘Ugly Betty’ is a dramedy, but we’re gonna stick with ‘Grey’s’ as a drama.”

But wait, you might be saying again, there are a ton of problems with this approach. And of course, you’re right again. First, is it true that movie studios actually push for a lead or supporting nomination because they think that’s what’s appropriate? Or, as a cynic might suggest, do they push for the category they think gives better odds of scoring a nomination and possibly a win? The truth probably rests in the murky middle between these two views, and this same muck would likely carry over to our new Award Show World. And this problem is actually made even murkier by the fact that, in our situation, it’s not just a matter of nominations/wins, but a matter of credibility. Just as “comedy” is (wrongly!) considered the bastard brother of “drama,” so too would “dramedy” likely get such second-son status. At least initially, the big guns would still get pushed into the drama category even when it’s more appropriate to consider them dramedy. After all, last night’s Golden Globes recognized “Grey’s” not just as a drama but as the best drama — why should ABC next year demote the show to dramedy status when it’s clearly, in the eyes of others, capable of playing with the big boys and thereby getting more credibility?

Now for shows that aren’t able to make the “drama” push, such as “Betty,” maybe the networks would be more willing to consider the dramedy category, under the rationale that a dramedy is more estimable than a mere comedy. Maybe not — the thinking of television executives is a fickle and unfathomable thing. But for the sake of this argument, let’s say that’s the case. This would help to quickly legitimize, at least somewhat, the category. And I would posit that, over the period of a couple of years, things would settle down relatively well, with networks pushing and supporting most of their dramedies in this new category rather than in the pure drama or comedy categories. Because, at the end of the day, this may give their shows a better chance to win, and a win is an opportunity for more puffing and self-congratulation, which is the very foundation Hollywood is built upon.

Is my thinking correct? Would the networks and studios latch onto and embrace this new category? Who knows? Remember, network execs = fickle and unfathomable. However, even if I am right, we’re not done yet. There’s a whole other problem in this new Award Show World that can’t be so readily dismissed — the problem of award show bloat. I can’t imagine there’s a man, woman, or child outside of Hollywood who would disagree with the statement that every single awards show is too … bloody … long. And now we’re talking about adding more categories? To make room, we could certainly get rid of the unnecessary fluff and circumstance that virtually every show has, but we all know that’s not going to happen (because, as you’ll recall, Hollywood = puffing and self-congratulation). So the only way to avoid more bloat would be to either take away other categories (no way in hell is that happening in this new Award Show World or any other world) or to simply limit the number of new dramedy awards.

But is limiting the number of new awards a viable fix? Probably not, as it would simply serve to belittle those that don’t get a home in this new category. Why should shows get a Best Dramedy award, and why should actors and actress get a chance in this fancy new category but not, say, writers or directors or guest stars, etc.? It almost has to be an all-or-nothing proposition. The “nothing” approach means that we’re still in the status quo and the “all” approach means that the award shows become six-hour mega-telecasts. Balls to that.

So where does that leave us? Well, I think my solution has failed because of this bloat problem, if nothing else, meaning the new Award Show World will remain undiscovered, and we’ll continue to simply be mired in the status quo. And you know what? I am totally OK with this. Because there’s an underlying truth that we don’t like to admit to ourselves, let alone to each other, about these award shows. They. Just. Don’t. Fucking. Matter.

Lookit: The true critical darlings that often deserve the most recognition are also the ones that are oftentimes ignored entirely. For every surprise when the awards committees get it right (e.g., the Best Comedy Emmy to “Arrested Development” back in 2004), there are countless places where the awards continually get it wrong (e.g., why in hell is “The Wire” or “Battlestar Galactica” excluded, year in and year out, from the playground?). And even many of the really popular shows (according to the Nielsens, at least) often find themselves left out. So these award shows, more times than not, fail to recognize the critical or popular favorites, which leaves the whole process feeling rather arbitrary. Which, of course, it is.

Just look at last year’s Emmy Awards. They were supposed to be the ones that got things right. The voting process was New and Improved, and it was the dawning of a new day. But then the nominations came out, and we saw it was pretty much as broken as ever.

So can’t we all just agree that these award shows are nothing more than a meaningless side-entertainment? Nothing more than a couple hours of mindless televised pomp and circumstance? Nothing more than a chance to look at some good outfits and, more entertainingly, some awful and gaudy outfits? Nothing more than a chance to listen to long and overwrought speeches in the hopes that one or two will be funny, poignant, and/or the least bit memorable? Nothing more than a chance to see how stupid the voters are and to discuss how much they fucked up this time, with the occasional surprising moment when they actually get it “right?”

Anyone with me? Anyone?

Yeah, I know that these things will forever be given way more weight than they deserve. But a girl can dream, can’t she?


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Seth Freilich is Pajiba’s television columnist. He’s still trying to wake his brain up from the coma last night’s Golden Globes put it in.


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Comments

In the second paragraph, is "Ugly Better" some sort of pun I'm not getting or a typo?

It's the result, perhaps, of having one too many cups of coffee while writing/editing. -- Seth

Posted by: BlackWolf at January 16, 2007 3:27 PM

The irony of this all is that instead of creating a new, meaningful, hybrid category like "dramedy", we're still stuck with the ridiculously non-sensical pairing of "musical" and "comedy" into one extremely exclusionary category.

And just how many TV musicals are you Tivo'ing these days?

Posted by: Perl at January 16, 2007 3:59 PM

Not to mention Dreamgirls, which by all accounts is a musical-drama, hijacking awards in a category that most of the public just thinks of as the "comedy" category.

Posted by: DinnerForPavs at January 16, 2007 4:27 PM

You still have not answered the 2 biggest questions about the Golden Globes:
1. Assuming we need award shows (now there's an assumption making an ass of both of us) why do we need 1 for TV (Emmys), 1 for Movies (Oscars) & one for some weird combinantion voted on by the Hollywood Foreign Press - the Globes?
2. Why were you watching this crap and not 24? TIVOing 24 is not a valid answer since TIVOing one show to watch another assumes the one you are watching is worth the time.

Posted by: Brian at January 16, 2007 4:55 PM

They seem to have gotten rid of some of the bloat from the Golden Globes by not hiring a host or even having any segue instigators.
That was weird. I kept thinking, Who's in control of this? We're going to hit the wall!

BTW, wasn't Maria Menounos a BITCH to the adorabe America Ferrera? Sack her, I say.

Posted by: Loob at January 16, 2007 5:35 PM

i personally think the answer to the awards show dilemma is less screentime for tom hanks, beyonce and steven spielberg, and less alcohol for warren windbag.

then add a lot more joan rivers, dustin hoffman, and perhaps a tribute to joan collins.

Posted by: dfox at January 16, 2007 5:39 PM

i agree that maria menounos was a hohrror to america ferrera, but ferrera needs to learn that she needs not to thank every.single.person. involved in her show twice.

Posted by: dfox at January 16, 2007 5:42 PM

Now, dfox, the girl was overcome with emotion...cut her some slack, I say!

And Seth, I am SO with you, although this does not absolve my guilt in actually watching the whole damn thing.

Posted by: bonnie at January 16, 2007 5:52 PM

Somebody mentioned "assuming that award shows were necessary," excellent. I cannot think of a more vomit inducing sight than a room full of these rich self-important douchebags patting themselves on the back as if they somehow mattered.
Here's an idea, film your crap (mostly) get paid (too much) and go home and shut the fuck up. The world doesn't need twenty award shows every year.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 16, 2007 5:52 PM

Nothing more than a chance to look at some good outfits and, more entertainingly, some awful and gaudy outfits?

And that right there is the only reason that I would ever watch an award show. What can I say, I eat up bad celebrity fashion like its going out of style! (Bad pun...RUN!!)

Posted by: ScarletKnight at January 16, 2007 10:15 PM

Frakkin' A, barbadoslim. Self congratulatory industry (be it acting, or dentistry) circle jerks are studiously ignored in our house.

I wanna see the nobel prize get this sort of coverage.

Posted by: Meh at January 17, 2007 6:24 AM

Barbado, don't forget the $10,000 gift bags they get for being so important.

They could add the Dramedy category with all the fixins so to speak and then just knock a few off awards off the telecast and present them before the show.

Posted by: The Stew at January 17, 2007 8:56 AM

When, and how, did the Golden Globes get so damned important?

Twenty years ago (and probably more recently), the Globes were a complete joke. Whoever showed the best time to the Foreign Press Association--laid out the best food, drinks, drugs and whores--could buy themselves an award. (Anyone remember Pia Zadora?)

How the hell did we get from that situation to the Globes' being a bellwether for the Oscars?

Posted by: Jerce at January 17, 2007 9:06 AM

I, too remember when the Golden Globes were a complete joke. In fact, it still seems weird to me that every single one of the big-name stars shows up nowadays. It almost makes me feel sorry for them, in a weird way. I mean, they are basically a low-rent Oscar and everyone seems to know that but all these accolade-starved people. The funniest moment of the show, every year, is when they have some person from the GG committee up on stage, and it is ALWAYS some kind of old, freaky-looking dude, like the guy this year, and sometimes they show shots of the stars looking really uncomfortable.

Posted by: R at January 17, 2007 10:17 AM

I agree that these awards shows take themselves too seriously, but a lot of people love the red carpet pre-shows and want to see their favorite people and shows recognized. I've always looked at these broadcasts as a yin to a sports fan's yang, meaning people who don't like sports have a televised competition in which they can have a rooting interest. So along those lines, the Oscars are the Super Bowl, the Emmys are the World Series, the Golden Globes are the NBA Finals, and the rest of the shows (SAG, People's Choice, MTV award shows, etc.) are college athletics like the Final Four and the football BCS Bowls. And of course, the red carpet interviews are the pre-game shows that get you pumped up for the Big Show.

Posted by: Kballs at January 17, 2007 11:39 AM

I have to admit, while the GG's are self-indulgent crap, they're better than the Oscars, a bloated orgy of flashing lights and cleavage, coupled with horrific teleprompter readings and celebrity dick-sucking. And it's certainly better than the Grammys (Fuck, I'd rather watch the Tony's than the Grammys).

But giving the drama series award to Grey's Anatomy was fucking tragic. Just horrible. Schmaltzy tear-jerking set to quiet, oh-so-thoughtful pseudo-indie music does NOT make it a drama. Christ. Seeing shows like BSG and The Wire (WHY ARE PEOPLE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE WIRE? WHY WHY WHY) get ignored for Grey's pretty much invalidated what little respect I'd had for the Globes until that point.

Posted by: TK at January 17, 2007 12:41 PM

And Little Miss Sunshine getting completely overlooked shows that movies falling under the "Dramedy" umbrella get soaked just as bad as do the dramedic TV shows. Travesty. I guess I would care more if, like The Whore says, these awards shows fucking mattered. I don't watch movies/programs based upon what some award commitee thinks. I watch based on what Pajibans tell me.

Posted by: gobigred at January 17, 2007 1:01 PM

Why do you need an award as a pre-cursor to an award? Do you give out crack as a pre-cursor to heroin? Do you lop off a toe as a pre-cursor to full-leg amputation? If you're going to give out an award, do it. What's the point of all this noodling, accolade-driven elimination round stuff? Is a GG a consolation prize if you don't win the Oscar, or is a reason to rant and rave when you don't win, because it built your hopes up?

Whatever

Posted by: M at January 17, 2007 1:15 PM

But wait, you might be saying again, there are a ton of problems with this approach. And of course, you're right again. First, is it true that movie studios actually push for a lead or supporting nomination because they think that's what's appropriate? Or, as a cynic might suggest, do they push for the category they think gives better odds of scoring a nomination and possibly a win? The truth probably rests in the murky middle between these two views, and this same muck would likely carry over to our new Award Show World.

I hate to burst your bubble here, but I do believe that networks already classify their own shows as drama or comedy. That was the whole brouhaha over Desperate Housewives a few years ago--ABC classified it as a comedy because they felt that it was a shoe-in to win over all the other potential nominations. The networks actually already play the same game as the studios in pushing how they think it will win. So, in other words, you're kind of already right--network execs are fickle and unpredictable.

Posted by: sally at January 17, 2007 1:35 PM

I haven't been able to take awards shows--or Nicholas Cage, for that matter--seriously ever since watching that 90s-era documentary, "The Envelop Please" (which mysteriously is failing to appear on IMDb--do I have the title wrong?).

That said--they overlooked BSG? WTF? I guess the SF channel doesn't do sycophantry.

Posted by: ranylt at January 17, 2007 2:21 PM

As with most of these types of things that people seem to get so irate about, there's a simple solution: if you don't like it, don't watch it!

The only reason the Golden Globes have become so popular is the booze. It's like the prom versus graduation ceremony (GG vs Oscars).

Posted by: Karina at January 17, 2007 4:02 PM

maybe "envelop" is spelled envelope?

Posted by: aimster at January 17, 2007 4:33 PM

Thanks, aimster, I'd tried both (as a Canadian, it's a habit). Neither shows. As it happens, it is spelled with an 'e', though.

Interestingly it doesn't even show under the director's stats in IMDb (Josh Freed). Funny, because IMDb lists plenty of one-hour tv works, but maybe not consistently.

I did find this on the director's website, if anyone cares:
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The Envelope Please
CBC (1996)

One-hour film about the secret politics behind the Academy Awards. Broadcast in the U.S. (Bravo) , Israel, Australia, Denmark, and other European countries. Director\writer.
____________________

I've seen it for rent on video, too, but again that may only be in Canada. I recommend it to anyone who can get their hands on it. Not so much for the dirt on how Oscar noms/wins come about (old news, a decade later), but on how Freed reveals a lot of celebs' hypocrisy and hubris with his handy-dandy camera.

Posted by: ranylt at January 17, 2007 5:00 PM

I'm still miffed that Buffy and Angel got passed over. I mean, come on. Seven/five seasons, people.

What drives me nuts about the Golden Globes is the Supporting actor category. TV movies, Miniseries and Comedy Series? Doesn't seem fair.

Posted by: Mara at January 18, 2007 9:05 AM

What I like about the GGs is the coliding universes of television and film.

Everyone is so tolerant, but you can hear the film people thinking "we're more important", and the tv people thinking "we're more relevant". They applaud for each other so mock-enthusiastically.

That, and the booze. And the prospect of someone tripping and falling betwen the tables.

Posted by: Janis at January 20, 2007 12:45 AM

Menounos is a no-talent hack. Everytime Menudos opens her mouth, its worse than dog farts.

Posted by: El Grande at January 24, 2007 8:50 PM

Peace people
We love you

Posted by: HelloWorld at April 5, 2007 12:12 PM