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Who's the Bigger Dick? Bruce Willis for Being One? Or Kevin Smith for Calling Him One?

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Trailers | Comments (54)



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This is not going to be another Kevin Smith rant. I don’t have the energy, and besides, the reason so many of us like the guy is because he’s talks shit about the people he’s worked with who deserved to be talked shit about. Although, at a certain point, it does start to feel like that friend of yours who has the worst luck with shitty roommates, and you begin to wonder if she was the shitty roommate all along.

But I give Smith more credit that that.

Anyway, here’s the story. Vince over at FilmDrunk was the first to pick up on an exchange between Kevin Smith and Marc Maron’s WTF Podcast. Smith was discussing the marketing for Cop Out when the conversation moved to Bruce Willis (although, Smith never actually names him).

Transcript excerpted from FilmDrunk:

SMITH: Look, I know the real story. One guy wouldn’t even sit for a fuckin’ poster shoot.”

MARON: “You don’t want to mention names all of a sudden?”

SMITH: “Everyone knows who it is. Put it this way, remember the really funny guy in the movie? It ain’t him. He’s a f__king dream. Tracy Morgan, I would lay down in traffic for. Were it not for Tracy, I might’ve killed myself or someone else in the making of that movie.”

MARON: “Honestly, you were given the gift of not having to tell your dad that Bruce Willis was a d_ck.”

SMITH: “I wish he could’ve just communicated it to me from the afterlife. It was difficult. I’ve never been involved in a situation like that where, one component is not in the box at all. It was fuckin soul crushing. I mean, a lot of people are gonna be like, ‘Oh, you’re just trying to blame the movie on him.’ No, but I had no fucking help from this dude whatsoever.”

MARON: “The sad part is, as a kid who grew up in New Jersey who loved Bruce Willis, and you get this big opportunity, and you get disappointed by your hero. And that’s probably something that you’re going to have to deal with again.”

SMITH: “No, but he changed everything for me though. Because now I’ll never meet anybody. That was it. I’d rather like people from a distance.”


It’s not the first that Smith has talked shit about Willis, either. There’s a couple of other clips posted over at FD where Smith alludes to a “‘passionless piece of sh*t’ who refused to stand on his mark and was ‘actively working against the production.’”

So, the take-home here? Bruce Willis is probably a dick. The other take home? Kevin Smith can’t keep his goddamn mouth shut. But that, folks, is why Kevin Smith can be so great. No one else in Hollywood has the balls to say that Bruce Willis is a “passionless piece of shit.”









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Comments

This makes me sad since my love for Bruce Willis borders on hero worship. I choose to ignore this article and go back and look at Rob Lowe some more.

Posted by: badkittyuno at January 19, 2011 12:07 PM

Or..oooor...Willis was being a twat in the hopes that the whole shitpile of a movie would get shitcanned before someone had to shit all over the shitty shit.

Posted by: admin at January 19, 2011 12:09 PM

Kevin Smith can’t keep his goddamn mouth shut.

I think I knew that already.

Posted by: mswas at January 19, 2011 12:11 PM

While I don't doubt the voracity of Kevin Smith's claims, I would probably be called "passionless" with regard to a lot of the work I have to do, esepcially when I think the work I am doing is pointless, ridiculous and a waste of time, i.e., the equivalent of having to make "Cop Out". While I don't get paid nearly as much Bruce Willis, I still get paid plenty fine, so I can sympathize with the man a bit.

That said, despite being passionless about what I do, I'm never outwardly difficult or obstructive (if I was, I'd likely get fired). So maybe the difference between Bruce and me is that I am just "passionless", while he's a "passionless piece of shit."

I like Kevin Smith well enough. I've enjoyed quite a few of his movies and, like him, love hockey and comic books, but I tend to find him kind of irritating. He's very whiny, insecure and has a large, incredibly fragile ego and wont shut up about it.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at January 19, 2011 12:11 PM

Sounds like Willis was paying Smith back for that horrible script. And I'm ok with that. I sat thru exactly 5 minutes of this movie before scrambling desperately for the remote.

Posted by: Chickaboom at January 19, 2011 12:12 PM

Well, it's also probably why he'll never be a popular director with the masses.

We may love honesty, but as we saw with Gervais this weekend, people get all fucking offended when someone dares to tell the truth about their favorite celebrities. So people just won't want to work with Smith because who knows what he'll say, and people won't watch his movies.

Posted by: Figgy at January 19, 2011 12:12 PM

Never trust a talking baby.

Posted by: sars at January 19, 2011 12:14 PM

He thought that Tracy Morgan was funny? The man ruined the movie. I don't know what kevin Smith is on but it should be banned

Posted by: Yesplease at January 19, 2011 12:15 PM

Damn...I love both Kevin Smith and Bruce Willis and detest Tracy Morgan's over-exposed, ultra-excessive ass.

So, I choose to believe that Kevin is actually color-blind, and MEANT to say Tracy was an ass and Bruce was awesome.

Moonlighting forever!

Posted by: dammitjanet at January 19, 2011 12:20 PM

There is enough Big Dick to go around here. Why do we need to choose?

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at January 19, 2011 12:26 PM

Divas have no place on a set. That includes shit-talking directors. Keep your mouth shut, play nice with the press, and take the blame for anything you could have fixed yourself. If I'm working with an actor/singer who isn't doing the right thing, it's my own damn fault for not directing him to sing the part right or not taking his concerns into consideration. If the actor still won't do the right thing, he should be replaced. Dumping on the performer is a cop out (ZING!).

Posted by: Robert at January 19, 2011 12:26 PM

Bruce Willis a dick. Wow. That's breaking news.


Pajiba also says: Water = WET!

Posted by: logan at January 19, 2011 12:28 PM

You know, as a mere slip of a girl at 15, at my very first job, I learned that you don't talk shit about co-workers. Not like that.

Actually, come to think of it, I learned that much, MUCH earlier in the form of, "If you don't have something nice to say, then don't say anything." Which i realize is the absolute polar opposite of most people here, but look at it this way: I love Bruce Willis, and now I'm sad that he's a dick. I probably would never have met the man and found this out, and would've lived my life happily seeing his movies and thinking he was awesome, but my illusions have been shattered anyway. And it's because someone else had to talk shit. And, P.S., we can't all like everybody.

What a *whiner* that kid is.

Posted by: Anna von Beav at January 19, 2011 12:31 PM

I'd have more time for Kevin Smith if he'd strictly ration the amount of times he bitches about everything. Sadly as it is, he is just the beardiest, somnolent misery merchant in the business and Bruce Willis isn't.

Posted by: peanut at January 19, 2011 12:32 PM

Pajiba also says: Water = WET!

Wrong, wrong, wrong!

Water = Deliciously Moist

Posted by: admin at January 19, 2011 12:34 PM

I thought m***t was banned?

Posted by: logan at January 19, 2011 12:36 PM

*sigh*

Kevin Smith, why do you feel like you also need to be a celebrity? Why can't you just have a private life outside of your movie making work like so many others in Hollywood? It's not like the papparizzi is chasing you around the Jersey shore trying to snap pictures of your privates (just threw up in my mouth a little). Seriously. Write your movies. Film your movies. Make us laugh. Those are things you're good at; everything else just makes you look like a tubby, insecure, know-it-all dick.

Posted by: superasente at January 19, 2011 12:42 PM

Smith had already "met" Willis doing Live Free or Die Hard, and he's talked at length about how Willis hit him up badgering him to work together. He's bullshitting now or he was bullshitting then, probably both.

Posted by: Jefferson Robbins at January 19, 2011 12:45 PM

Considering Smith talks about how cool it was to work with Willis in Live Free or Die Hard on the last Evening with Kevin Smith DVD and told a story about Bruce calling him up and saying they needed to work together on something I can see him being bummed out if the experience was less than great. However, Bruce has a rep for taking charge of productions and badmouthing people on set he doesn't think are up to snuff. He's a 30 year veteran of Hollywood, most of those guys and gals have enormous egos.

What I don't get is what made Willis sign on for Cop Out in the first place. Was the script really that good because the previews (no, I won't watch it) make the movie look unfunny and horrible.

Posted by: TylerDFC at January 19, 2011 12:46 PM

You know, I don't mind that he said what he thought about Bruce Willis, if it was true.

If Bruce was indeed behaving like a dick, he should be called so. It's a nice change from the verbal fellating that usually goes on in interviews about famous people. However, if Smith was only being an ass because the movie flopped and he was trying to pin blame somewhere, that isn't cool and he should be beaten mercilessly with a flip-flop.

Posted by: ZombieNurse at January 19, 2011 12:54 PM

I don't give a shit if Bruce Willis is a dick or not. He's been in enough great movies and enough bad ones to know a bit about the direction it's heading during production. It's quite possible he saw this turning into a real pile of shit or maybe Smith wasn't what Bruce thought he was either. They both decided to work together and obviously came out the other end regretting it.

Also, if Smith wants to talk so much shit about the people he makes movies with then he needs to at least have the humility to admit that he's made a few shitty films. He thinks he's made only masterpieces and any bad criticism must be people not "getting it".

I like most of his stuff and I've been mostly on his side until recently. I think I'm done after this. Willis was a dick on set. Smith was just an unprofessional douche and is only capable of burning bridges apparently.

Posted by: Paultera at January 19, 2011 1:10 PM

My husband has actually met Bruce Willis and Demi Moore and unless he's substantially changed since then, I'm going to have to give Bruce Willis the benefit of the doubt. He committed to this movie pre-script (right?) and was probably hoping for something along the lines of early Kevin Smith instead of crappy Kevin Smith.

Kevin Smith seems like a sincere guy but not everyone has great working chemistry.

Because in the words of my husband, Bruce Willis and Demi Moore were the nicest sober celebrities he's ever met.

(In case you're wondering, the nicest NON-sober celebrity was Liza Minelli.)

Posted by: Hayden Tompkins at January 19, 2011 1:28 PM

Smith is shooting himself in the foot here. If you are an A-list actor are you going to work with Smith when you know he's capable of doing a 30 city tour bad mouthing you?

Posted by: L.O.V.E. at January 19, 2011 1:52 PM

I would think that if Bruce really was a dick, in general, then we'd have heard about it from others who have worked with him, and I ain't heard jack shit along those lines, except from Smith.
I have no problem believing Bruce could be difficult to get along with if he was unhappy with the way things were going on a project, but I've heard nothing but praise for the man from cast-mates and crew members on his other projects (RED being the most recent from which I've seen interviews with multiple members of the cast), so it seems to me that there was something about Cop Out that just didn't agree with him.
And judging by its success, it didn't agree with a lot of people.

Posted by: Rykker at January 19, 2011 2:58 PM

I could give a fat wet rat's ass. Just entertain me. That's all you are: an entertainer. I don't care if you guys got along or if you booby-trapped each other's trailers with yellow cake (although that would make a good story, I admit). Just do your job -- like I have to do mine -- and entertain me. It's what I pay you for.

STFU and stop with the flaccid, fourth-grade-girl gossip (apologies to fourth graders).

Posted by: klingonfree at January 19, 2011 2:58 PM

Don't think it's been mentioned yet but Kevin Smith didn't write the script. He only directed it. It was the first (and so far only) movie that Kevin Smith ever directed that he didn't write. Furthermore, people saying "He had to make a shitty movie so of course he didn't show any passion" or whatever. Here's a thought: don't take the movie. It's not like Willis didn't read the script beforehand. He didn't HAVE to do anything. If you think the movie sucks and you're just going through the motions, maybe you should pass on it and pick a different movie to do. Instead he just accepts whatever bullshit gets tossed his way (he's been in a LOT of bullshit movies) and goes through the motions. I think "passionless" sums that up perfectly. This isn't the first time he's been called a dick on movie sets either.

#TeamKevinSmith

Posted by: D.P. at January 19, 2011 3:01 PM

Actually, come to think of it, I learned that much, MUCH earlier in the form of, "If you don't have something nice to say, then don't say anything."

Posted by: Anna von Beav at January 19, 2011 12:31 PM

Or as I learned it, "if you can't say something nice, say something really fucking mean".

That being said, after watching approximately 7 minutes of of Cop Out, I'm surprised Bruce didn't punch Kevin Smith in the fucking throat. Maybe the show got better; I wouldn't know. After the opening 'interrogation' scene I cut my losses and turned it off. I'm not a masochist, contrary to popular belief.

Posted by: Xtreme at January 19, 2011 3:11 PM

Have to see I'm pretty disappointed in Willis' attitude. Just in general, he seems like the most miserable motherfucker in the world these days.

Posted by: elzupasmonkey at January 19, 2011 3:17 PM

While I don't doubt the voracity of Kevin Smith's claims,
Posted by: Forbiddendonut at January 19, 2011 12:11 PM

Or his appetite. Zing!

Posted by: Odnon. at January 19, 2011 3:19 PM

This basically confirms (from Smith's perspective, at least) what I'd suspected for a while - a large part of the reason why Cop Out sucked (in my opinion) was Bruce being Bruce... and Kevin being unwilling or unable to direct him to be otherwise.

Smith previously talked about how Willis would show up at the beginning of a day and throw out multiple pages, deeming them filler, and Smith would just go along with it because he's Bruce Willis. I wonder if a lot of the humour of Cop Out was located in wacky tangents we never got to see. It can't have been less funny than what made it (outside of Seann William Scott's character).

It's hard to find any real truth here, and Smith himself would probably have a ten minute rant about me trying to, but that's my interpretation. That, and the Cop Out script was probably pretty weak from the get go.

Oh, and by the way, Smith also makes sure to point out that he got a lot of positives out of Cop Out, largely in terms of pre- and post-production elements such as marketing. So at least he has something to show for a film that even he is getting close to admitting wasn't great.

- Steve, a guy who listens to four of Smith's podcasts on a weekly basis and absolutely can't wait for Red State.

Posted by: Steve at January 19, 2011 3:21 PM

First of all, everybody bitches about coworkers. True, when Hollywood people bitch publicly, that's different from behind-the-scenes bitching, but I guarantee you, if Bruce Willis was a giant dick during filming and held up production in any way, other people besides Kevin Smith were bitching about it, just to each other, not on TV. Kevin Smith is probably the only person who could bitch about it publicly and still be able to keep his job. I'm guessing if Joe the lighting guy went public with complaints about Bruce Willis, he might find it difficult to get hired on any other Bruce Willis movie, at least.

Second, if you act like a dick, expect someone to gripe about it, and they might gripe about it publicly and embarrass you. The solution to this conundrum is to NOT act like a colossal dick and make everybody else's job harder.

Kevin Smith does gripe a lot, but at least he's pretty entertaining when he does it. I can listen to bitching if someone makes the effort to do it with style.

Posted by: Slash at January 19, 2011 3:22 PM

Rowles I swear, when it comes to Smitty your hypocrisy is without equal. So this guy makes a shitty movie which is becoming the norm for him, and he lashes out at Bruce Willis all because Willis refuses to do a dopey poster and you think Smitty is one hip cat. Let me tell you something pilgrim, Willis was a star when this guy Smitty was just discovering the joys of masturbation. Willis was making his bones when this fat hump was in elementary school looking up skirts. And long after Smitty has done his second stint in celebrity rehab, Willis will still be making movies. So I tell you what Rowles, keep thinking that the sun rises and sets on Smitty’s ample ass.

Posted by: Pookie at January 19, 2011 3:24 PM

Also, Smith is in no way a dick for speaking honestly. I love how candid he is, and I don't think anyone should be looked down on for telling things the way they see them. I wish more people would do it, rather than play the political game, which is sadly a necessity for most. Good for Smith for being free of that.

Posted by: Steve at January 19, 2011 3:25 PM

Steve, you really think that Smith don’t play the political game? Oh please, if anything he don’t play it because he’s been exposed as a hack director and not because he‘s above playing games. Believe you me, if he could play the game he would. Last time I checked he has calling up the hotels near Cannes to book a room so he would have a place to suck the cock of any studio head that would give him the time of day.

Posted by: Pookie at January 19, 2011 3:35 PM

I very much enjoyed klingonfree's take on the situation.

Rant to your spouse about your co-workers while making dinner. It's what the simple folk do.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at January 19, 2011 3:45 PM

I think the real question is - does Kevin Smith do anything but bitch? And eat? And make shitty movies?

Posted by: Case at January 19, 2011 4:01 PM

"Rant to your spouse about your co-workers while making dinner. It's what the simple folk do."

I'm as simple as they come. Of course I do this. I just don't send out a damned press release about it.

Posted by: klingonfree at January 19, 2011 4:13 PM

It occurs to me in my red haze of umbrage I may have misread Mrs. J's comment.

Oddly enough, I haven't been drinking.

Posted by: klingonfree at January 19, 2011 4:15 PM

Oh, come on - not one comment about the brilliance that is Marc Maron's WTF? I love that podcast and Marc manages to get the best out of his subjects. As to Smith, I'm not a fan of his movies but I respect anybody who will take the risk of calling an A-lister out on his or her nonsense.

"You know, as a mere slip of a girl at 15, at my very first job, I learned that you don't talk shit about co-workers. Not like that."

Oh, come ON. Some people deserve to be complained about. Their reigns of terror will never end if nobody says anything about it.

Posted by: samantha t at January 19, 2011 4:20 PM

To be honest I’ve never heard of Bruce Willis being a dick on any movie he’s ever done, conversely you can’t go a week without hearing about Smith and some poor airport worker that Smith seems to have problems with. Maybe I’m looking at the situation all wrong, maybe it’s okay for Smith to call out Bruce Willis. But I seem to remember when Heigl called out some people on the set of “Knocked Up,” and ALL of you guys bitched and moaned about Heigl being a dick.

Posted by: Pookie at January 19, 2011 4:39 PM

My umbrage is ecru klingonfree

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at January 19, 2011 4:44 PM

I really would like to hear Joe the Lighting Guy's take on things.

Posted by: TWoP_Fan at January 19, 2011 4:47 PM

I would like to know what Carla Gugino's breasts think of all this.

(Puts ear to screen)

Well, the breasts have it. Kevin Smith is a pussy. And Bruce Willis is a prick. You two, go fuck each other.

Posted by: L.O.V.E. at January 19, 2011 5:18 PM

Both likely are at fault -- as is usually the case in life. But Kevin should also have the good sense to let that sleeping dog lie. Just say "Tracy was a dream and I learned a lot about working a studio pic." Period.

Unfortunately, this is why Kevin will continue to be an indie flavor. He either has no capacity to work with the big egos or he's carrying a big ego himself.

Posted by: Fredo at January 19, 2011 5:44 PM

So we have an entitled fatman bitching about an entitled bald 50 year old who shouldn't be making action movies anymore.

Where's the fucking story here?

Posted by: bignick at January 19, 2011 5:51 PM

My umbrage is ecru, klingonfree.

Hey! Just like my ennui!

Posted by: AlwaysConfused at January 19, 2011 6:44 PM

Bruce Willis is awesome. And I will ignore any number of facts that say otherwise.

Posted by: camytaru at January 19, 2011 7:42 PM

Since we are talking colors...my umbrage has faded to horizon-at-sunset orange/peach (it's a California thang) but I so appreciate the restraint symbolized by the Jane-Austen-esque ecru.

But I think at this hour I am moving on to Rowan-and-Martin black-light green for what's left of my umbrage.

Nothin left of my umbrage here. Nothin to see....

Posted by: klingonfree at January 19, 2011 11:10 PM

Pookie: "Steve, you really think that Smith don’t play the political game? Oh please, if anything he don’t play it because he’s been exposed as a hack director and not because he‘s above playing games. Believe you me, if he could play the game he would. Last time I checked he has calling up the hotels near Cannes to book a room so he would have a place to suck the cock of any studio head that would give him the time of day."


I meant more the fact that he won't say nothing but good things simply because it's the thing to do. You hear the same exact "everyone was a joy to work with" spiel on every press tour, but Smith is content to make cool little flicks that turn a small profit, so he doesn't have to tow that line.

Samantha is also 100% correct. Marc Maron's WTF Podcast is fucking awesome.

On the podcast, Maron also brings up the Southwest business. That's one thing I still disagree with Smith on. He's convinced that they picked on him because some staff member didn't like him, but his own story makes it clear that's bullshit. Smith bought two seats, they only had one, so they (incorrectly) assumed that a fat motherfucker was just saying "no no, I'm fine in one seat". And who the fuck wouldn't assume that when a pretty damn big guy buys two seats because "he likes the room and doesn't like sitting next to people". Big guy buys two seats, I assume he needs them. Big guy gets one seat and assures me he doesn't need to second one, I assume he doesn't want to be embarrassed and admit he needs two. Granted, Southwest still should have shut up once he WAS seated comfortably, but out of the entire issue, the only thing I can't stand is Smith's belief that one guy just wanted to fuck with him that day.

Posted by: Steve at January 19, 2011 11:48 PM

Newsflash: People in the public eye are often not like the image they portray.

Posted by: Shane at January 19, 2011 11:58 PM

I'm with you D.P.. #TEAM KEVIN SMITH

Bruce Willis is obviously a dick. What great movies has he done that everyone's talking about? I liked him in Pulp Fiction and .... what else did he do? Surely you're not talking about Die Hard?

Posted by: John G. at January 20, 2011 2:48 AM

Steve, I don't believe that it was just one guy that wanted to fuck with Kevin when he got on the plane either. However, as he mentioned on his own podcast there were other fat people on the plane who didn't have to buy two seats and they weren't kicked off. It sounded like they were being inconsistent with their policy and Smith was randomly singled out.

To get back on topic, as entertaining as Kevin's anecdotes about famous people being assholes can be, he does make assumptions about people he's never worked with as well. I think it'd be wise if he kept some of that shit to himself, but clearly a lot of his fans enjoy it. I can't say any of this changes my perception of Willis. I wouldn't doubt that he can be difficult for some people to work with and a dream for others. He sure was a good sport on Between Two Ferns.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, they're both a couple of dicks.

Posted by: Uda at January 20, 2011 5:03 AM

'Kevin Smith can’t keep his goddamn mouth shut'

Though he does sometimes plug it with a doughnut.

Ba-dum-tshh.

Fuck you, I'm hungover.

Also,

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'I would like to know what Carla Gugino's breasts think of all this.

(Puts ear to screen)

Well, the breasts have it. Kevin Smith is a pussy. And Bruce Willis is a prick. You two, go fuck each other.

Posted by: L.O.V.E. at January 19, 2011 5:18 PM'

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Agreed. The breasts have spoken.

Posted by: zeke the pig at January 20, 2011 5:49 AM

There is enough Big Dick to go around here. Why do we need to choose?

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at January 19, 2011 12:26 PM
---
*Looks in pants*

Maybe at YOUR house

*sigh*

Well, like I always say: If you're going to call me a dick, at least call me a big dick.

Posted by: , at January 20, 2011 10:59 AM