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What's Underneath All the Fake?

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Trailers | Comments (18)



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I’ve never had much interest in Joan Rivers, which is why — on two occasions — I’ve passed up the chance to see the documentary, Joan Rivers: A Piece of Work at two film festivals. The trailer, however, looks somewhat compelling, in that it puts Joan Rivers in a historical perspective (in the space between Phyllis Diller and Kathy Griffin) and it looks as though it might even try to humanize her, though it’s hard to imagine there’s still a human beneath all that plastic.

But that seems to be the point of the documentary: To explore Rivers’ place in the comedic world, her insecurities, and her relationship with age, plastic surgery, and the people who do like her. Joan Rivers has made a joke of her life, but it’s a joke that works for her, and that she’ll proudly keep telling. And there might just be something to respect about that.









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Comments

"And there might just be something to respect about that. "

I beg to differ, good sir.

Posted by: The Other Agent Johnson at May 14, 2010 11:41 AM

The documentary definitely looks interesting. And some of the praise that it's gotten makes it that much more compelling.

Posted by: tamatha at May 14, 2010 11:47 AM

Awww Joan Rivers makes me laugh. I've heard some of her old stand-up routines and loved her red carpet commentary (for me, the crazier and less ass-kissier the better). I think I'll definitely have to check this out, even if it does look like some of the more vulnerable parts may get me.

Posted by: Kayanne at May 14, 2010 12:01 PM

The fact that one of her joke categories is "Tony Danza" makes her awesome.

Posted by: Sofía at May 14, 2010 12:14 PM

I noticed that too, Sofia! How many jokes does she have about the man? I'm dying to know.

Posted by: stardust at May 14, 2010 12:42 PM

I've been a fan of Joan Rivers since being introduced to Muppets Take Manhattan as a young child. I like her stand-up. I appreciate her hustle. Much like how I'll only watch HSN for the Singer sewing demos (a machine always breaks and everyone freaks out), I only watch QVC for Joan Rivers inappropriately hawking her jewelry.

Has anyone seen her new infomercial for hair filling make-up? It's a hoot. It might be the most entertaining infomercial since the original Magic Bullet. It's a mix of Joan doing stand-up about going bald straight to camera and demonstrations of a product that can't possibly work for thirty minutes.

Posted by: Robert at May 14, 2010 1:04 PM

The problem that I have with her is that she seems to tell people (women especially) that they are ugly for being natural--aging, sagging, wrinkles, and the like. Personally, I find the extensive work that she has had done to be an abysmal failure. She is scary looking…like that creature in Splice.

Posted by: anikitty at May 14, 2010 2:06 PM

Rivers has become a hateful old hag (perhaps her true self all along) who spews more venom than one-liners nowadays. She has misinformed opinions and shoots off her mouth, she raised a bitch who couldn't aspire to be as nasty as she is and drove a long-suffering husband to suicide. She fucked over the most important man in show business, Johnny Carson, and still managed to fail miserably all by herself with her own late-night show. Even the Z-grade E! network couldn't tolerate her bullshit.

I hope she whines herself into an aneurysm.

Posted by: Edgar at May 14, 2010 3:16 PM

Every time I see IFC Films, I just think about Passing Strange, the best musical ever written. Lee filmed it just before it left broadway, and it made an amazing movie. Anyone else ever seen it?

That being said, I am completely indifferent to Joan Rivers.

Posted by: A-schaef at May 14, 2010 3:42 PM

A-schaef, I saw the stage show and the film. Lee took a highly experimental show with quite a few flaws and transformed it into something much more cohesive and revolutionary. The edge that drew me to the production more than once still existed, and the performances were the same, but Lee's hand knew where the focus needed to be in a very busy production. His vision complemented the musical perfectly. Anyone who wants to film a stage show for wide distribution should be required to study what he did with Passing Strange.

Posted by: Robert at May 14, 2010 5:06 PM

Say what you will about JR, that filing system of her jokes WILL BE WORTH A FORTUNE when she dies. I can hear the archival schwinging from here.

Posted by: Ranylt at May 15, 2010 11:40 AM

I'm going to see this, if only for the insight into the show biz world. I'd never want to be a part of it, but to see a glimpse into it is fascinating to me. I mean, who has joke drawers? Who has so many jokes they need their own room for storage? JR, that's who.

Posted by: Stella at May 15, 2010 12:06 PM

Whether you like her personality and sense of humor or not, Joan Rivers was a pioneer for women in comedy. She stood toe to toe with the prominent male comedians of her day, and swung for the fences with the big boys.
I respect the hell out of her, regardless of how I feel about her stand-up.

Posted by: Lindsey with an 'e' at May 15, 2010 1:36 PM

I watched a little bit of the Celebrity Apprentice cycle that had Joan Rivers as a competitor. She had to be a consierge in a hotel. She worked her ass off and was always talking about giving superior customer service and she recognized the egos flying around the room. I thought she had an incredible work ethic and a lot of humility.

And I second her and Phyllis Diller being brave and trail-blazing for standing toe to toe on stage with sexist men who didn't think women should be comedians. Good on her.

Posted by: Viking at May 16, 2010 7:34 AM

she would've been fine, if she hadn't screwed over johnny carson.
her abysmal career is nobody's fault but her own.

Posted by: felix at May 16, 2010 2:16 PM

I love Joan Rivers. My parents hate her. They think she’s too shocking. My parents have no sense of humor. They watch America’s Funniest Home videos FOR FUN. FOR FUN!!!!

Posted by: amoody07 at May 28, 2010 4:41 PM

I love Joan Rivers. My parents hate her. They think she’s too shocking. My parents have no sense of humor. They watch America’s Funniest Home videos FOR FUN. FOR FUN!!!!

Posted by: amoody07 at May 28, 2010 4:41 PM

Yes, Joan can be as acid mouthed as they come and yes, the surgery has gone wayyyyyyyyyyy over the top but this is a little lady who has "chutzpah" - she is feisty, hard as nails, and is a survivor. I can relate to her on a certain level; she's been through a lot yet she keeps on keeping on - professional and acid tounged and stylish, always. In that sense, she is inspiring to women to put their best feet forward, no matter how crappy things become. That would be her motto. She is who she is - outrageous, nasty yet soft as mush inside. I like her crazy, no holds barred sense of humour; she reminds me of nasty Don Rickles on the one hand and the adorable, tart/chic little Jewish babba every girl would love to have on the other hand. I could see myself confiding in her and sobbing of all of my love travails and secrets while she has tears forming, the heavy mascara dripping down her so tight face as she says "now, now...okay, okay" and pats my arm nonchalantly.
Her jewellery line is probably the best quality line of fashion pieces I've seen; I have several pieces, earrings, bracelet, cocktail ring, more earrings - each and every item is beautifully presented, elegant, and very well made with top quality finishing. Several people at events asked if the pieces were real. I'd easily offer her pieces as gifts, and they are pretty enough to be sold in top-tier department stores as high-end fashion jewellery pieces. As such, I can speak of her name being equated to quality, which is far nore than can be said of some celebrity jewellery lines. (Are you reading this Melania? I would not buy your pieces, but I've heard about the cheap aesthetic and finishing.)
I do not like Joan's daughter - to me she is riding upon her mother's success and proved herself to be nasty, spoiled and unprofessional Jewish Princess on The Apprentice; her mother's role was naturally played up for the cameras, we knew Joan would win all along. But Melissa was disappointing; there was a great lack of class there for a woman I believe to be intelligent. I also suggest she looked far better pre surgery; she was once "cute" but that has disappeared into fat lip/cat eyed/long taut faced oblivion.
My late Aunt loved Joan, she would joke about "that Jewess" but she I knew she was always eager to see Joan on tv and to enjoy the acidic, sarcastic humour and to laugh.
Long Live Joan - stylish, elegant but with the mouth of a construction worker - we'd have her no other way, and I wish I could adopt her as a little Jewish babba all my own!

Posted by: Barbara Jane Sowak at June 10, 2010 3:53 AM