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George Lucas: Hero or Heretic?

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Trailers | Comments (41)



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Below are a couple of trailers for movies debuting at this year’s SXSW festival, the first of which is The People vs. George Lucas, a documentary that essentially pits Lucas’ fans against those who loathe him for how he apparently ruined the Star Wars franchise. I don’t really have a dog in this fight (because I think the original Star Wars trilogy is overrated), but I know that there’s one name that will likely appeal to many of you: Neil Gaiman is one of those providing testimony (on which side, I don’t know), as well as Darth Vader himself (Dave Prowse) and Dave Pollock, Lucas’ biographer.

Despite my lack of real interest in Star Wars, I am fascinated when someone feels this passionate about any movie, really. We are in the movie reviewing business, and though we love to piss and moan and bitch and complain, even that comes from a passionate place.

Anyway, here’s the teaser trailer:



The other trailer is for Le Donk & Scor-Zay-Zee, which is something akin to Borat crossed with a British sense of humor, with one huge difference: Paddy Considine instead of Sacha Baron Cohen. And by God, Paddy Considine is one of my favorite actors on the planet, so I’m more than a little excited about this movie. It’s about roadie who loses his girlfriend and everything else, but decides to try and make a star out of his sidekick, Scorz, which he attempts to do with the help of the Arctic Monkeys.

Check out the trailer:









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Comments

Okay. I know I am being super over-sensitive about this one, but I wish people would stop using the term "have a dog in this fight". It makes it seem so acceptable. It hits me in the same place as when my mother says "I've been working like a black today" and I can't make her see why that's offensive. She's not at all racist, trust me. She used to bring us on anti-apartheid marches on Sunday afternoons when other mothers were baking roast beef. She just doesn't see why it's offensive. So I'm not suggesting people who use the phrase are pro dog-fighting. I just wish it would not be used.

Posted by: PaddyDog at February 5, 2010 2:17 PM

says PaddyDog

ha ha ha

Sorry Paddy. Btw, this is the first time I've heard or seen the phrase.

Posted by: dene at February 5, 2010 2:31 PM

I never felt all that passionately about it until I saw this series of videos describing how the Star Wars prequels sucked harder than pretty much anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI&feature=PlayList&p=7B2BAC553FD1D934&index=7

I watched every one of them. I think there are 7 or so. And actually, as an English teacher, he has a lot of really good points about characterization, story arcs and coherence.

Posted by: Snuggiepants the Deathbringer at February 5, 2010 2:38 PM

meh
and meh'er.

Posted by: gem at February 5, 2010 2:52 PM

You wrote, "...which is something akin to Borat crossed with a British sense of humor."

Dude, isn't Sasha Baron Cohen a Brit? Isn't Borat ALREADY the British sense of humor?

Posted by: superasente at February 5, 2010 2:58 PM

I expected to be able to really get behind The People vs. George Lucas. That trailer was underwhelming at best. And the guy at the end creeps my fucking shit. Bad.

Le Donk, however, looks awesome.

Posted by: Smokin at February 5, 2010 2:59 PM

Paddy, I sort of agree, which is why I switched to using "have a horse in this race."

That or "have a black in this cottonfield," but I learned that from your mom.

TOTALLY KIDDING.

Posted by: Skewicide Blonde at February 5, 2010 2:59 PM

Wow, that sounds as annoyingly boring and repetitive as the same old political shitfight as ever that busted out yesterday. These people need to get someone new to bitch about already. I'm sure many of them also say "Hey, don't tag me as ______!"

Posted by: Jay at February 5, 2010 3:00 PM

(because I think the original Star Wars trilogy is overrated)

Fine, asshole, here are some other things that are overrated:

Arcade Fire: Funeral
The Pixies: Doolittle
Anything with Wes Anderson, (seriously, just look at this ninny)

And in case you were wondering, yes, I'm the only person on the earth who's a bigger asshole than Dustin.

Posted by: George at February 5, 2010 3:03 PM

Skewicide Blonde:

Hilarious! Thanks for not screaming at me for being hyper-PC.

BTW, if you did know my mother you wouldn't be blithely posting. You'd be cowering in a corner wondering who ever let that woman reproduce....5 TIMES!

Posted by: PaddyDog at February 5, 2010 3:07 PM

For those wondering, right now I'm just waiting for Lucas to die so I can witness the earth shattering hypocrasy of his most hated detractors mourning the loss of a god, kind of like Michael Jackson, except Lucas didn't fuck any kids*.

*allegedly

Posted by: George at February 5, 2010 3:14 PM


Well, I have a friend who is absolutely nuts for Stars War, so I've had to deal with this. I had as much affection for the original movies as anyone (being old enough to have seen them in the theatre is a big part of that), and I was pretty excited when the sequel/prequels were announced. I even saw the first one on the first day (there was no line, so I what the helled it).

Long story short -- the second three films were so bad, I had to go back and re-evaluate my response to the first three (totally not helped by Lucas reworking them) and after peeling back the veil of nostalgia, I have to admit -- They aren't that good either.

Maybe it would have been better if Lucas had got hit by a bus (maybe even before the ewok movie).


Posted by: Kosmic Koyote at February 5, 2010 3:16 PM

When did George become the teenaged B-Slim? Did I miss a meeting?

Posted by: Skewicide Blonde at February 5, 2010 3:21 PM


OH
and as for the dog in the fight thing

How bought we get some Star Trek wonks and throw them in a pit with some Star War wonks, fill the pit with cheaply made, yet insanely expensive, Klingon Katanas and Sandman Bullysticks and have them fight to the death for the prize of some obscure unreleased DVD set (or the right to see a real boobie for one minute). We can throw the whole thing on pay per view and use the proceeds to fund PSAs explaining why Michael Vick is an asshole.

sound good?

Posted by: Kosmic Koyote at February 5, 2010 3:25 PM

Shut up, George.

Posted by: Snuggiepants the Deathbringer at February 5, 2010 3:29 PM

You forgot to mention a basement, Ms. or Mr. Koyote.

Posted by: Jay at February 5, 2010 3:32 PM

But, who knows? I might get lucky and there'll be some moaning about Michael Bay today too.

Posted by: Jay at February 5, 2010 3:35 PM

How bought we get some Star Trek wonks and throw them in a pit with some Star War wonks, fill the pit with cheaply made, yet insanely expensive, Klingon Katanas and Sandman Bullysticks and have them fight to the death for the prize of some obscure unreleased DVD set (or the right to see a real boobie for one minute).

Posted by: Kosmic Koyote at February 5, 2010 3:25 PM

So then can we start saying "have a geek in this fight?"

Also Skewicide Blonde is the tits.

Posted by: Katers at February 5, 2010 3:39 PM

I couldn't take that series of videos about The Phantom Menace. The guy's delivery was grating and pedantic. (And I didn't agree with him.)

The original trilogy rocks. George is deluded and mad with creative power, but I will forever be grateful to him.

I sleep with an Ewok.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at February 5, 2010 3:59 PM

I think the guy who did the video clips totally agrees that the original trilogy rocks. That's his point. They are SO good, and the prequels are SO bad.

Posted by: Snuggiepants the Deathbringer at February 5, 2010 4:04 PM

For Lucas to have ruined "Star Wars", the films need to have been watchable in the first place. The second series and his inability to not ruin what little was like about the originals through shitty re-releases, just further prove the points that A) he honestly has no clue what it takes to be a decent director, writer, or talent scout B) the average fan of his movies are just as fucking clueless as him, and that C) he will shit on his fanbase and whore his creation out for the least bit of money. The only difference between him and Uwe Boll is that at least everyone acknowledges that Uwe is a fucking hack.

Posted by: Diablo at February 5, 2010 4:27 PM

What is hypocrasy? Is that the European spelling of hypocrazy? Is it that point just below crazy where you haven't actually started talking to inanimate objects, but you're preparing your arguments and should probably consult a physician about taking crazy pills to get you to the healthy level of crazy you need so you can finally put the toaster in his place about who's the best Power Ranger? That's what I'm wondering about.

Posted by: jM at February 5, 2010 4:49 PM

These are the things that keep jM awake at night.

Well, that and panda-raping.

Posted by: Skewicide Blonde at February 5, 2010 4:51 PM

Diablo
I'm not the biggest fan of Star Wars,they're just some movies to me*, and yeah I do think Star Wars fans are a wee bit too unwilling to take off their pink shades when it comes to the original Trilogy; but saying the originals are as bad as Boll's bowel movements? Harsh.

*I think it's a timing thing seeing/reading the Heroic Journey at the right time. Before Star Wars it was Lord Of The Rings, after, it was Harry Potter. I'm closet to the Harry Potter generation, I read the books, but was too old to be really obsessed by it.

Posted by: cockroach at February 5, 2010 5:06 PM

*closest

Damnitt

Posted by: cockroach at February 5, 2010 5:07 PM

This is completely off topic, but has anyone else noticed that fat dude off of The Biggest Loser (redundant I know) looks EXACTLY like George Lucas?

Posted by: Dave at February 5, 2010 5:35 PM

I love the George Lucas hateful deconstruction. It's hilarious because a) every one of the fans who hate the prequels are completely justified in feeling robbed and cheated.

But is also beyond funny because b) George Lucas gives no shit to what anyone thinks because he's filthy rich, leaving all the whiny poo-poo-ing irrelevant because the target that everyone's aiming at has bulletproof-isized himself from reality. You HAVE to give George Lucas a LITTLE credit for not getting two shits about what you think creatively. It's a talent.

However, I can only help but look at the over-arching concept that Lucas himself has no idea why his creation is so beloved. There are four reasons why people love movies 4-5-6:

1) You like Luke Skywalker, who represents the coming-of-age ideal on a save-the-world scale.
2) You like the Empire. You like Vader's ability to scare the shit out of you without ever showing face, and the sterile stormtroopers with shiny white body armor.
3) You like The Force, with its' obvious Eastern Philosophy roots, inoffensive lack of a central figure of worship, and the fact that you can concentrate and levitate shit.
4) Han Solo. Can you imagine these movies without Han? No you can't. Because he outright takes over the movie when he's on screen. Plus he brings Chewie, Lando, Boba Fett, and Jobba with him. I dare anyone to tell me who the "cool" good guy is in the prequels. It's not Sam Jackson, because the only reason he's cool is because it's Sam Jack, not the character.

George Lucas, however, thought for some reason you liked his movies for completely different reasons, so he built movies 1-2-3 based on:

1)CGI.
2)More CGI.
3)Lame, generic, daytard comic relief.
4)Robots.
5)And throw some CGI on top.

This is like Tolkien writing books about metallurgy and carpentry for 3 books, or Tarantino releasing a Pulp Fiction prequel following Bruce Willis' girlfriend and using a score recorded by a 3rd grade orchestra of recorders and xylophones. But wait, they don't do that because they're not batshit retarded.

Posted by: D-Day at February 5, 2010 6:05 PM

D-Day: You forgot reason #5 to like the original Star Wars trilogy:

Princess Leia kicks ass, shoots a weapon, stands up to Darth Vader and makes sassy quips like, "Aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?" and "Will someone get this walking carpet out of my way?"

Posted by: MM at February 5, 2010 6:14 PM

It's "Dale" Pollock.

Posted by: HappyGobo at February 5, 2010 7:19 PM

The first Star Wars was so great because it was the first of its kind to do what it did. No one in Hollywood had any idea what the script was about or even cared enough to get the merchandising rights. Alien came out 2 years later and 2010: A Space Odyssey wasn't until 7 years later. Face it, at the time, Lucas gave us something we had never seen before and it blew are minds. What he neglected to remember with the prequels was that he wasn't giving us anything we didn't already know and he certainly wasn't giving us something new. The technology was there and being used to a much greater capacity than Lucas was able to bring us. He wasn't first and that was the only real thing he had going for himself in 1977.

Posted by: Peanut_Butter_And_James at February 5, 2010 7:24 PM

My husband and I were just the right age to be completely mesmerized by the first set of Star Wars movies (we were in older childhood through early adolescence as the three came out). Mr. Snuggie stood in line in Phoenix, Arizona forever just to see Star Wars. He's never lost his love for the three movies and I loved them and still love them, too. This is totally nerdy, but on our second date I quoted something from Star Wars, can't even remember what now and years later he told me that was the moment he knew I was right for him. Ha! Dweebs in love!

But the only reason we love them is very simple: it's just a good story.

The prequels? Suck in every conceivable way, except for the fact that I could look at Ewan McGregor. Looking at him is never ever bad. But that's it. All I can say about those three flicks.

Posted by: Snuggiepants the Deathbringer at February 5, 2010 7:52 PM

Actually, MM, we are both off on that.

Reason #5 people like Star Wars;

http://asnailpace.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/princess-leia-slave-uniform.jpg

Easily copied, never duplicated.

Posted by: D-Day at February 5, 2010 8:18 PM

Oh, D-Day, you're so cute. The point I was making is that you listed four (+ 1 with photo) = five very BOY-centric reasons to like Star Wars. I was trying to throw in a little girl perspective.

Posted by: MM at February 5, 2010 8:28 PM

You're damn right I'm cute.

Although I do apologize for the chauvinistic perspective.

However, I did mention Han Solo. I mean I'm straight, but c'mon...it's Han Solo.

Posted by: D-Day at February 5, 2010 8:36 PM

Cockroach...you are correct. My equating of Uwe Boll to George Lucas is unfair...Uwe actually uses talented actors (abet horridly but at least he recognizes the talent he wastes) where as Lucas not only can't recognize talent, but his films are so godawful that he kills more careers than he has ever helped.

Has anyone ever said "Michael Madsen...His career is over...he was in "Blood Rayne". Even the 12 people that saw that shitfest recognize that it was a straight money job. But my god...Lucas killed Mark Renton. I can't even watch "Trainspotting" anymore after seeing Ewan McGregor get completely wasted in three straight films.

Uwe Boll sucks...but he is harmless. His damage is left on the screen. Lucas destroys careers and turns great actors into whores.

I hope he makes the next three movies just so I can see how far he is willing to shit on his fan base to make money.

Posted by: Diablo at February 5, 2010 8:42 PM

And in case you were wondering, yes, I'm the only person on the earth who's a bigger asshole than Dustin.
Not caring for hipster douchebaggery makes you an asshole? Color me brown and puckered.

Posted by: The Kilted Yaksman at February 5, 2010 10:35 PM

Also Skewicide Blonde is the tits.

Posted by: Katers at February 5, 2010 3:39 PM
---
Okay. I know I am being super over-sensitive about this one, but I wish people would stop using the term "is the tits". It makes it seem so acceptable.

Plese substitute the phrase "Show me your tits."

Thank you.

Posted by: , at February 5, 2010 11:26 PM

For those wondering, right now I'm just waiting for Lucas to die so I can witness the earth shattering hypocrasy of his most hated detractors mourning the loss of a god, kind of like Michael Jackson, except Lucas didn't fuck any kids*.

When was this? I believe there was quite the party where plenty of people were whizzing away on MJ's grave, some doing it particularly as a F.U. to sappy coverage. Lucas is hardly going to get it any lighter. Hell, why do you think Roddenberry had his ashes launched into space?

As far as Lucas vs. Boll in the career-killing arena, Diablo: sure, Lucas has a higher body count. But I would argue that it is due more to the long-lasting fandom ad subsequent type-casting than any real merit on Boll's part. An actor in a Uwe Boll film has nothing to worry about because hardly anybody is going to see an Uwe Boll film. You get in a Lucas film, you may not get any better work, but fuck, you play it right, and you are set for life. Besides, just about every cult classic kills its stars. Seriously, beyond Shatner and Nimoy (and those are pushing it), who survived Star Trek: TOS with their saleability intact? Even Patrick Stewart, arguably the best straight-up actor out of any of the ST canon, had to run away to another fandom.

Said it before, say it again: Lucas was good at worldbuilding, especially with pastiches. He took the concept of "standing on the shoulders of giants" to the next level. And he managed to build one hell of a fictional universe along with it. And like the modern day incarnations or not, we wouldn't have Star Wars or Indiana Jones in the pop culture lexicon without him.

He may not be a good director or writer, but dammit, Lucas IS one of the best producers around. And quite frankly, I totally understand why he doesn't give a shit about the fans. Have you seen them? They are FUCKING NUTS! If he tried to satisfy even a percentage of their whims, he would go insane! He had to go all zen and "I don't give a fuck" on people, just to save his soul.

So good on ya, George. Keep fucking that chicken.

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Posted by: Patty at February 6, 2010 10:57 AM

I hate the abomination that was the prequals, but even more than that I am deeply concerned with the way he shaves his beard/scruff/thing to prefectly accentuate his magnificent jowls. When ever I see him its the only thing I can look at or think about.

Posted by: JR at February 6, 2010 11:24 AM

Yeah I don't have a dog in that fight either...ohh err, I mean I don't have a hanger in that uterus, I really don't care for anything Lucas has done. Although starwars fans have written some interesting fiction.

Posted by: Robb at February 8, 2010 11:14 AM


















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