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The More I See of Scott Pilgrim, the Less Interested I Become

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Trailers | Comments (35)



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I don’t want to be burned at the stake for saying this (and believe it or not, you guys are probably a lot more sympathetic to my perspective than many of the actual online movie critics, who have already decided to go gaga over Scott Pilgrim without having ever seen it), but the more I see of Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, the less interested in it that I become. It’s not that I don’t dig Edgar Wright — he’s made two of the best movies of the last decade in Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz. And it’s not some sort of anti-comic book bias, either. I don’t even think it’s a general apathy to Michael Cera (although, he doesn’t help).

It just feels like they’ve taken the whimsy and quirk from Juno (which I loved) and transplanted it onto a comic book movie. And I don’t like the combination. It feels Diablo-ized.

Also, will someone who has read the graphic novel explain to me, assuming it’s not spoilerish, how Scott Pilgrim has the ability to kick the seven ex-boyfriends’ asses? He’s not Forrest Gumping his way through these fights and inadvertently coming out the victor. From the scenes I’ve seen, he’s plain bloody kicking their asses. Did he get some sort of superpowers from his guitar when it was struck by electricity or something?


Anyway, here’s a clip, keeping in mind that when you show a full two-minute scene from a movie, you’re probably going to show one of the better ones. Does it make you any more or less inclined to see the movie?









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Comments

The SP comic books are basically Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind's poignancy/slight magical realism flavor meeting obsession with other comics, video games, and kung fu movies.

So Scott's fighting prowess is sort of just a genre touchstone. It's not really explained. And honestly, its one of the less weird things about the broader universe of the comics.

Posted by: Mexcillent at June 7, 2010 11:46 AM

I've read and enjoyed the five graphic novels currently available, and if they are like Diablo Cody it's not because she inspired them-- the first volume was out before Juno was ever released. It's probably more a reflection of a particular generation's artistic aspirations?

As for Scott's powers, it's not spoilery to say that the books (at least up to v.5) never explain it. They don't explain any of the characters' powers, at least not in the normal super hero origin sort of way. People, not everybody, can just do super things in this world. That's really all there is to it.

But, yeah, I agree with you that more I see about the movie, and the more people talk about it, the less interest I have. Which sucks, because it's coming out on my birthday and I had been looking forward to seeing it then. Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Edgar Wright may still be enough to get my butt in the seat, though...

Posted by: RobP at June 7, 2010 11:49 AM

Scott's life is basically a video game. He can duck through portals in space-time, get 1ups when necessary, and wantonly kick all the asses. It's basically a perfect storm of early 21st century geekery; an indie rock musician whose life is somehow where "kung-fu video game badassery" meets "whimsiquirkilicious." It's not for everybody, because not everybody likes awesome things.

He is also a Canuck, for what it's worth, and in my experience, both the citizenry of Canada and the nation as a whole have mysterious, unexplained powers.

Posted by: Kyle at June 7, 2010 11:50 AM

I agree with everything Dustin said...but how can your heart not flutter a bit with the total cuteness that is that pic up there?

Posted by: Fredo at June 7, 2010 11:51 AM

To continue Mexcillent's point, the comics are very manga-inspired. They're even pritned by American manga publisher Oni Press. The manganess of it is probably important to get a full understanding of what the books (and, hopefully the movie) are trying to do.

Posted by: RobP at June 7, 2010 11:52 AM

(psst. oni is an indie comic publisher)

What's interesting is how this is shaping up to be a deeply divisive movie.

Posted by: Mexcillent at June 7, 2010 11:58 AM

I'm still pretty psyched, but I don't really get ELATED about movies anymore, so I'm not going to die if it isn't amazing or something. I thought that clip was pretty fun though. And the comic book-style punching onomatopoeia are pretty amusing.

Posted by: Nat Kittyface at June 7, 2010 12:05 PM

He is also a Canuck, for what it's worth, and in my experience, both the citizenry of Canada and the nation as a whole have mysterious, unexplained powers.

*adds Kyle to list of people that must die for divulging national secrets*

I'm thinking that I'll be one of either extreme on this one. I'll either love it, or hate it with a mapley passion. That's how our passions are here. Sticky and sweet.

Posted by: admin at June 7, 2010 12:09 PM

Mexcillent, I thought Oni was focusing solely on manga-type books now? That's all I ever see of their stuff at Borders.

Posted by: RobP at June 7, 2010 12:13 PM

As far as I know Oni doesn't do much manga reprints. They usually publish creator-owned stuff.

But this is all nerd marginalia.

Posted by: Mexcillent at June 7, 2010 12:20 PM

The wanton ass kickery and video game over-the-topitude of these previews are similar in style to some of the most awesome dreams I've ever had, but whenever I try to explain to someone the sheer magnitude of how awesome my dream was, it comes out sounding like a fifth grader on acid. So I hope this movie doesn't suffer from a similar hiccup in translation.

Posted by: Ulterior Motive Girl at June 7, 2010 12:20 PM

Ulterior Motive Girl - I think that's probably gonna be the most divisive part of this movie. Generation is also going to be a factor.

Posted by: Mexcillent at June 7, 2010 12:30 PM

I get the feeling that Edgar Wright might not want to put one of the best scenes in. This is just a little taste. An appetizer. He's not looking to spoil.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at June 7, 2010 12:32 PM

I didn't think I could be less interested than I already was but...hey! I can!

Posted by: figgy at June 7, 2010 12:42 PM

As someone who makes a feeble attempt at writing my own film blog, I previously thought I was on an island in my thoughts on Scott Pilgrim. The nerds be buzzin' about this film all over the internets. I didn't read the graphic novel -- I guess that means I'm not part of the club. Both trailers and this "fight" scene do nothing for me. And I have a cinematic man crush on Edgar Wright.

Thanks for speaking the truth, Dustin!

Crikey.

Posted by: Corey at June 7, 2010 12:44 PM

Damn! I was all "WOOO!" and now I'm all "meh."

I like being "WOOO!".* This stupid clip combined with the also "meh" Deathly Hallows trailer combined with the fact that I really have to pee but don't want to stand up has put a definite damper on my morning.

*Also, does anyone know the appropriate way to punctuate this situation?

Posted by: esme at June 7, 2010 1:00 PM

We may be running into a "it's not for you" moment.

I'm not even sure how to explain it. Something about it simply makes me happy. It's sort of like the weirder strips of the webcomic Questionable Content dialed up to 11. The whole thing is very meta. It's a world where the mundane conflicts like living up to the standards set by your partner's ex-boyfriends, instead of being a largely mental exercise, are played out as epic conflicts. A series of choreographed metaphors, if you will.

Leastways, that's the feeling I get off it.

Posted by: ZombieScientist at June 7, 2010 1:12 PM

I had convinced myself from trailers and preview scenes that Zombieland was going to be this awful, hipsterized destruction of my beloved horror-comedy genre. Part of that was the cast, and part of it was the decision to include all those text pop-ups in the film. It looked annoying and I really wasn't going to see it. After being goaded by many people, Dustin included, I put down my matinee fee and sat in delight for the running time at how amazing the film was. It was pure joy with a side of Bill Murray, and it doesn't get much better than that.

I'm predicting a similar fate to Scott Pilgrim, except I'm already excited about it. It looks good. Enjoyable. Maybe not great, but that's ok. I've slowly learned to have no expectations going into comic book adaptations, especially ones with lots of action, lest I depress myself with my vision of what the film could, nay, should have been.

Posted by: Robert at June 7, 2010 1:20 PM

Also, nerd hate for anything that remotely smells like Broken Social Scene or the New Pornographers.

It's gonna be a dilly of a day on Pajiba c. August 13.

Posted by: Mexcillent at June 7, 2010 1:31 PM

Nerds hate the New Pornographers?

Posted by: Jay at June 7, 2010 1:37 PM

"Hipster" as pejorative for media nerds don't like could well lead you to that conclusion.

Posted by: Mexcillent at June 7, 2010 1:41 PM

This did not alter my disinterest bordering on disdain much at all. To be honest I have a lot less disdain for Michael Cera than you seem to but I kind of think I would hate him in this movie. I also hate the whole POW, BANG, BOOM thing they have accompanying the action. On the plus side though I liked the evil-ex enough to hope he would win and go to town on the girlfriend while Cera cried.

Posted by: matt at June 7, 2010 2:01 PM

I think the powers of the characters (or at least for Scott) are implied to be learned in school (K-12). Maybe. He references regretting not taking a skateboard proficiency back in "grade 5".

Posted by: JapJay at June 7, 2010 3:01 PM

esme, I think "WOOO!" covers the puncuation just fine, but I like the touch of adding the period after the quotation mark. It let's us all know you're speaking normally and just dramatizing the excitement factor. The period tells us you aren't exisiting in ALL CAPS at that moment. Which is, as we all know, how you get scabies.

Woo.

Posted by: RobP at June 7, 2010 3:23 PM

Also, nerd hate for anything that remotely smells like Broken Social Scene or the New Pornographers.

I don't know what this means, but I will END YOUR FACE. I be the biggest nerd EVAR, and BSS and the new pornos are two of my favorites. Don't make me cry in a corner because someone on the internet insulted my taste in music.

Posted by: the_wakeful at June 7, 2010 3:42 PM

Just to claify, what Scott has is less comic book inspired super powers and more manga influenced martial arts skills. A fair share of the mangas that I've read center around each area having a designated martial arts champion BMOC sort of person and Scott Pilgrim is that person in his hometown. This is mentioned in his fight against the first evil ex.

Of course, this is promptly forgotten in the source material and he has to weenie his way through some of the fights before he remembers his skills two to three fights later. Kind of the same way that Superman forgets all his long distance powers and winds up flying in and slugging most baddies. "Oh no! Kryptonite! Why do I always have to get so close?" He then remembers his powers eight issues later.

The fight in the clip is a good example. There was no fight. He pulled some stupid "trick" out to defeat the movie star, completely forgetting his powers of kickassery. The clip took what I thought was kind of weak and made it actually potentially entertaining.

Thankfully the movie seems to have played up the video game aspects and avoided the harder to relate to (and far more hipster) manga influences. At least, to me it's "thankfully." I found the original to be borderline hard to read. I got all the references and influences. I just thought it was poorly written and treading away from geek joy and into ironic hipster pseudo-enjoyment. The movie looks like Kill Bill meets Donkey Kong: scenery chewing, bubble gum, gleeful fun.

Posted by: Harborwolf at June 7, 2010 6:16 PM

I play video games and I think layering VG tropes into a movie is a weird mix. Cera grabbing a "1UP" icon and quipping he's getting a life just ain't funny.

Posted by: stryker1121 at June 7, 2010 7:44 PM

I was about to bring up The Broken Rosetta Porn myself, but someone beat me.

The secret of Canadians is the unadulted goodness of our biological makeup. It can't be replicated, as the fiasco of yore called ichor presumed to attempt. Pig swill, it was. And it is absolutely sticky and sweet. What do you think they put in butter tarts? We need that study, thick blood to steel us against the bracing winters (Though Toronto is downright mild compared my hometown), perpetually touring indie collectives, roll our eyes at Margaret Atwood and move to America.

God Bless Our Snow-mo-globins

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at June 7, 2010 7:56 PM

This is just one scene, what's in it that feels so dissaopinting? why should Scott's "powers" annoy anyone? Is someone actually waiting this movie to be a teen drama for hipsters? That's just part of what makes Scott Pilgrim awesome; if you don't like it, please don't say it's "Diablo-ized", just say it's not your taste, that's something we can all agree on.

Posted by: Radlum at June 7, 2010 8:00 PM

I don't particularly care that it's been Diablo-ized -- I liked Candy Girl, Juno, I actually own Jennifer's Body of my own free will, and "The United States of Tara" has grown into a seriously enjoyable show in its second season. I just hate Scott Pilgrim because it looks fucking awful. Go ahead and burn me, Internet.

Posted by: Erin B. at June 7, 2010 11:43 PM

The whole "Yeah nerds, I am professing to dislike something that you do. FUCKING FIGHT ME" trope is getting old.

Posted by: Arran at June 8, 2010 5:42 AM

I am a terrible poster on the internet. Nerds are the only possible audience for things I dislike. Also, hipsters.

I am neither!

Posted by: Mexcillent at June 8, 2010 2:15 PM

Personally, I just never liked the Western take on manga/japanese-style video games... The whole "me-too!" style tribute never worked for me. That and Michael Cera is... Michael Cera in all movies.

Posted by: Are at August 4, 2010 6:26 PM

Actually they do explain in in the beginning of the book when he fights the first evil ex the drummer says oh man this guys gonna get his ass kicked doesnt he know scotts the best fighter in toronto. As for kicking all of there ass's that's not to be said yet they mayy have changed it in the movie but in the comic you could say he got very lucky in a lot of the fights not to mention this is a world based from comics and video games hence he can get 1-ups also things like drinks have things like plus 2 to speed if your looking for realism this will not be your cup of tea if you dont care however i think most people would thoroughly enjoy the series and possibly the movie.

Posted by: Tofu98 at August 8, 2010 8:09 PM

Actually, Tofu98, Scott's the best fighter in Ontario. That's right--in all of Ontario. To quote the comics (and movie): "So yeah."

Posted by: MichelleZB at August 15, 2010 1:39 AM