Pajiba

I haven't been able to say this in a very long time:

I really want to see this. But I really do not want to be alone when I do.

I'm with Deistbrawler. While the movie looks pretty interesting, I'd much rather see a documentary with these people in it explaining what happened to them. To me, that would give the stories the possibility of reality, rather than in a movie, where it is most definitely fiction.

stupid ass-raping aliens, don't they know alice will go all leeloo dallas multipass on their butts!

Aliens do not exist, here on earth or elsewhere. The idea that intelligent life is the natural conclusion to evolution in a given planetary system capable of supporting life is false. We are a happy accident, the result of the convergence of many random mutations, unlikely to happen again. Given the age of the universe, the likelyhood of aliens evolving in our neighborhood of the galaxy in the same time frame as us is almost zero. Also, the size of the universe makes space travel outside of originating solar systems nearly impossible, even for ultra-advanced species. And, no further advances in science will ever allow us to travel near or faster than light. Finally, humans are not very intelligent to begin with. 90% of everything we think and believe is false, and movies like this just add to public ignorance.

@Brahman: I would just like to point out that "unlikely to happen again" and "almost zero" are not the same as "never happen" and "zero". This is not to say that I believe in aliens; I'm just confused that you're invalidating your own argument. Obviously, the chance that humans would evolve was very, very, very slim - and yet we did!

@gp: "leeloo dallas multipass" makes me giggle. God, what a silly but fun movie.

We are a happy accident...

Speak for yourself. I'm miserable on purpose.

That's one of the silliest definitions of humanity I've ever read.

Well shit...

I'll say this. Horror/Slasher films do nothing for me. Oooh...violence...Ahhh Scary....I read the entire Animorph series as a kid, I was seriously freaked out by ET and Mars Attacks (I still refuse to watch either of them) and I do believe aliens exist.

Ergo, i will watch this movie and spend the next few days sleeping with one eye open.

I agree with Hitchcock. The terror created by suspense in the human mind obliterates actually showing the monster/gore.

I stated a few scientific facts about the nature of evolution, the distances and time spans between solar sytems, and the speed limit of the universe. Some called me arrogant, ignorant, and silly, one person suggested suicide, and one tried to knock me down with a quote from a science FICTION writer. Okay, let's consider the reality of aliens visiting earth.

Light speed isn't possible for anyone, and that's a fact, not my opinion. It's part of Einstein's theories of relativity, which aren't theories anymore, since they have been proven correct, time and time again. There is never going to be any workaround to this so get used to it. It's an inviolate law of the universe, not a lack of knowledge or technology.

Let's say a super-advanced civilization developed on a planet in a solar sytem 10 light years away and wanted to come straight here. The only way would be on a huge biosphere ship. The fastest speed such a ship could attain slingshotting around several large planets on it's way out of their solar sytem would be maybe 100,000 mph. The 10 light year journey at 100,000 mph would take 67,000 years to complete.

The ship would have to be constructed out of perfect materials that are hundreds of times stronger than anything we have, and would require some kind of perfect recycling power source, in addtion to a perfectly balanced biosphere environment capable of supporting up to 4000 occupants for 67,000 years, with perfect health care, perfect birth and death rates with militant style population control, perfect education for transfering the knowledge of how to operate and maintain the ship, as well as the nature of the mission, across 2600 generations of their species. Also, hopefully they wouldn't evolve into something out of synch with the tiny niche environment of the biosphere over the 67,000 year trip.

This civilization would need enough capital and resources to launch 20 space shuttle-size loads into orbit every day for 10 years in order to heft up enough material to build and stock such a biosphere ship. Then they would have to convince 2000 of their kind to leave their wonderful society and board this ship, never to be seen again, committing them and all their progeny to live and die in the emptiness of space on the journey to earth.

The trip would have to start with perfect navigation perfectly forcasting the position of our solar system 67,000 years in the future, as no expulsion of propellants could be used to change course once the ship gets going, for not a single molecule of the biospere can be wasted if it is to last so long. The journey would have to be perfectly hazzard and accident free.

Once in our solar system, the ship would need to slow down, maybe using a giant solar sail parachute the size of Alaska. The parachute would have to be invisible or we would see it coming for 20 years. The ship would then cruise to a stop behind the moon in perfect sync with the lunar orbit so as not to be detected.

At night, tiny cruisers would deploy from the mothership, quickly traveling the 250,000 miles to earth, kidnap you out of your bed, fly you 250,000 miles back to the mothership for an anal exam, return you to earth, and then return to the mothership again, all before morning.

So, just when homo sapiens were starting to migrate out of Africa, an advanced, alien civilization decided to come here, making a 67,000 year journey, across 2600 generations, with perfect everything, arriving at the exact moment in our evolutionary history when The X-Files appears on tv, all so they can stick a bioscanner up your ass, while hiding from every reporter and scientist on the planet. And you call me arrogant, ignorant, and silly? Give me a fucking break.

Brahman: The criticism that you are arrogant is based on your assertion that you are correct. Trying to disprove the existence of alien life to those who believe is going to go over about as well as an atheist listing arguments against the existence of God to a Christian. You can't win, don't try.

You believe aliens do not exist, cannot exist. Fine, go and live that way. But your theory is just as valid as my belief that in an infinite universe we cannot be the only ones out here. And the idea that we are alone, that THIS is the sum total of all intelligent life in the universe, is simply too depressing to properly comprehend.

ooo, Tarn, get me a Malibu and Coke.
never mind. i'll just come with you. it's getting a little full of itself around here.

He's probably just angry because he's going to Hell.

TylerDFC,

I don't know why it would be depressing to learn that we are unique in the universe. I'd think it would be astonishing and exhilarating (if unprovable). It's only depressing to think of how we're wasting our opportunity arguing over things like whether there are aliens out there.

I doubt we're alone in the universe, though I can't think of any good reason why a civilization advanced enough to travel here would want to. We don't really have that much to offer.

As for UFOs, I tend to agree with Hynek that there is something going on, but doubt it's aliens. It's probably something much weirder than that.

Well said, Mr. Wilson.

And for anyone curious about Clarke's laws and the man who coined them, see here: http://www.clarkefoundation.org/

Brahman,

you want PROOF, well, CLICK THIS!
http://www.freakingnews.com/Alien-Pictures-14320.asp

There is a large difference between the idea of aliens existing and aliens visiting Earth. How could we possibly say there is no life anywhere else? We have no way of knowing. Are they here? No
Damn you Pajiba with your Hulu items! Now I face the difficult task of finding the trailer elsewhere...
The owls are villians? Noooo!

This is why I use lead-based black paint on all my windows and inserted Faraday cage material in my walls and attic.

Next is claymores around the house with a deadman switch for when I get levitated off the bed.

guys aliens are all made up. just another way to be profitable from the industry and for Satan to provoke you to believe in that, which are demons. also to draw you away from gods and Jesus Christs worship.