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Is It OK to Say "Fag Hag" If the Movie is About a Self-Described "Fag Hag"?

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Trailers | Comments (29)

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You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both, and there you have …. Violet Tendencies, the greatest movie about the “oldest living fag hag” starring “The Facts of Life’s” Mindy Cohn ever created (at least until the sequel).

Below, we have the trailer for Violet Tendencies (compliments of Craig), which is a … I think we’re going to call it an independent romantic comedy. It was directed by Casper Andreas, who you may know from his last film, Big Gay Musical or his debut film, Slutty Summer. In Violent Tendencies, Mindy Cohn is “the oldest living fag hag,” who can’t seem to find a man because, well, she’s surrounded by gay men (ummmm … you gotta play that Natalie Green card).

But then, she finds the male version of herself: A “fag stag.” (Does putting “fag” in quotes absolve me of political incorrectness, or am I allowed to use it anyway by virtue of having a father who boned men or because I have a man crush on Ryan Reynolds? These are my daily complications, people!) Will they live happily ever after? Or will the hag butt heads with the stag in a competition over all their gay friends?

Find out, in a theater near you (or, more likely, on Netflix in a few months). In the meantime, check out the trailer, if only for the riotous experience of seeing Mindy fucking Cohn in a movie of this ilk.


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Comments

"About to turn 40." Riiiiight.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at April 14, 2010 10:44 AM

This is about what again?

Posted by: , at April 14, 2010 10:50 AM

I'm confused. I've never heard the term "fag stag" before. Is it some kind of regional slang? Like "grinder" for a sub or "pop" for soda? Cause I'm certain I've never heard it before and I've grown up in greater NYC area theater. I thought I was hip to the jive but now I feel horribly out of touch.

Oh, the film? No way it's going wider than 2 theaters. That Ewan McGregor/Jim Carrey gay film can't even get a set wide release date. What chance does an indie film with a higher gay count have? Charming and irritating trailer, though. Though horribly flawed concept. I know fag hags much older than 40.

Posted by: Robert at April 14, 2010 10:51 AM

That looks very strange but the hot guy-on-guy action is appealing.

BTW, Mindy Cohn is only 43! She looks well into her 50s in that trailer.

Posted by: snapnhiss at April 14, 2010 10:59 AM

It's Natalie Green. I can't insult Natalie Green.

Posted by: Brie at April 14, 2010 11:05 AM

What chance does an indie film with a higher gay count have?

Well, as long as they don't show any ghey seks then the "gay count" don't matter. As long as it's all flamboyant preening and two snaps up in a circle and nobody has to think about assholes being breached, then it's all good.

Posted by: MM at April 14, 2010 11:06 AM

Actually, I found that rather entertaining. But Netflix, it is.

Posted by: BWeaves at April 14, 2010 11:23 AM

I'm pretty sure this exchange, "Do you want my eight-inches?" "Are you going to fuck me twice?" means the assholes breached barrier has been broken.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at April 14, 2010 11:24 AM

I ...kind of totally love this. Sort of.

Posted by: Anna von Murderpuppet at April 14, 2010 11:38 AM

Goddamn't Tracer I was going to make a comment on that you ass. That line was awesome!

Fine...plan B.

Was that a Tim Gunn clone at 1:54?

Posted by: DeistBrawler at April 14, 2010 11:48 AM

Yeah...I liked this movie when it was called "Okoge".


(sorry, just pretending to be one of those people for a moment)

Posted by: Jay at April 14, 2010 11:50 AM

Love the concept, unsure about how the execution looks.
There really isn't much said about women like that in movies and I think it's actually an interesting POV to explore. And it can be mined for comedy as it is above or even for drama. So at least there's that! Maybe I'll catch the movie on Netflix.

The term "faghag" is a tricky one. Taken as a sum of its parts ("fag" and "hag"), it's fairly awful. Taken as a term in the common lexicon, your mileage may vary. There are women who just seem to attract tons of gay men for one reason or another. Depending on how you view the term, "faghag" you can usually go one of a few ways about this:

1. Decide that "faghag" is awful and resort to any number of alternatives: fruit-fly, froot loop, flame dame, fairy godmother, etc. As the trailer mentions, there are male counterparts (they say, "fag-stag," but there's also "queer-steer.")

2. Decide that "faghag" is awesome and throw it around.

3. Decide that "faghag" describes a very certain kind of female friend. This would mean that not all women with lots of gay friends are "faghags." This also usually gives a negative connotation to the word. In other words, this would be deciding that faghags are more or the less the kind of women as shown in the trailer: isolating themselves from personal and direct contact with heterosexual men and instead experiencing romance and sex vicariously through their gay friends.

I'm sure there's more ways about this, but those are the most common in my experience.
And wow, I have gone on waaaaay too long, so I'm just going to stop and go eat lunch.

Posted by: St. Saturn at April 14, 2010 11:57 AM

I've never seen "Facts of Life" and I understand many of you harbour sweet memories of it, but seriously, I look at that woman and the personality she's portraying here and I listen to her grating voice and I think "reason she can't find a man is become she's surrounded by gay guys?" I think not.

Posted by: PaddyDog at April 14, 2010 12:10 PM

Shit! Shit! The song somehow wasn't in my head but it is NOW! I'm blaming Paddy.

Posted by: Jay at April 14, 2010 12:18 PM

I've seen more shitty low-budget gay movies than I would care to admit to most people, and this installment looks pretty average. I understand that "gay" movies typically have to be low budget (because no one will watch them and they don't get released anywhere) but can't we get something better?

Here's how they go: Just enough sexy boys on the cover to get you interested, but inevitably disappointing on that front (could have watched a porn). Sappy plot that involves at least one of the following (new gay struggles with sexuality; catty gay gives sassy advice; prude gay learns to let loose). Stereotypes galore! Finally, acting that will make you cringe on at least two occasions.

What's a fag to do, though? I try to connect to my people through cinema, but I'm always left unsatisfied.

Posted by: Vince Noir at April 14, 2010 12:39 PM

@ Paddydog:

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Also, an indie rom-com is still a rom-com, even if it features a lot of cliché gays, a hag as the lead, and her boring hetero love interest.

Posted by: FabMax at April 14, 2010 12:45 PM

I was told when I worked at a porn store in the West Village that served predominantly gay men that many of them (the older crowd at least) hated the "fag hag" term, because (this was what I was told) it made them seem like an novelty or a showpiece instead of a person. This was when Will and Grace was huge and a lot of girls thought having a gay best friend was like having a fairy or wizard or something.

Posted by: scorzi at April 14, 2010 12:48 PM

@ Vince Noir

Truth! Rare is the time that Our People don't come across in obnoxious stereotypes in their own movies. Or that good acting/writing isn't sacrificed for attractive faces and hard bodies.

Sometimes, despite the archetypes, the movie manages to be good anyway (like Broken Hearts Club), but that doesn't happen terribly often.
The lack of quality seems to have lowered everyone's standards because most of the time, when a movie is being touted by the LGBT community as totally awesome, I'm just underwhelmed. Were the World Mine? Broken Sky? Sugar? We can do better, people!

Posted by: St. Saturn at April 14, 2010 1:02 PM

I'm with AvB. And Vince Noir a big "I hear ya." Had very similar experience when it came to the lesbian film genre.

Posted by: tamatha at April 14, 2010 1:38 PM

What exactly is a Fag Stag?

Is it a man who likes lesbians?

Posted by: BWeaves at April 14, 2010 1:41 PM

Mea maxima culpa, I did not actually watch the trailer. So this is not in the "Will and Grace" mode of completely NOT making you think about actual gay sex, just about the "fabulousness" of the gay best friend?

Posted by: MM at April 14, 2010 1:51 PM

MM:

You can't do that. There are rules. You can't break protocol and go straight to the triple dog dare and you can't jump over mea culpa and go straight to mea maxima culpa either. We can't just break the rules whenever it suits us.

Posted by: PaddyDog at April 14, 2010 2:30 PM

OK, but now that I have two things to apologize for, is it mea maxima culpa?

And will you be putting my Pajiba membership on double super-secret probation? Without first putting it on single secret probation?

Posted by: MM at April 14, 2010 2:37 PM

The atonement police will visit you when you least expect it and appropriate measures will be taken to ensure you pay your debt to the Pajibaverse.

Posted by: PaddyDog at April 14, 2010 2:49 PM

Lesbian films just tend to suck. Especially Go Fish. But the gay film genre all around has earned a resounding "meh" from me. And I've tried to like them. Things should be better.

Posted by: MyySharona at April 14, 2010 7:50 PM

Paddy, bless you for using the correct "ensure" as opposed to "insure".

Posted by: MM at April 14, 2010 8:58 PM

I think from the context, a "fag stag" is a straight guy who mostly hangs out with gay men.

I'm sure my love of Natalie Green is coloring my judgment here, but I kind of love that Mindy Cohn is doing this movie ("I'm right here. Behind the shrub"), especially given how her former costar Lisa Whelchel has gone the Kirk Cameron route of being a right wing fringe mouthpiece.

It looks frothy and harmless and brainless, and I'll take that type of gay cinema any day over the dramas of the early 90's where everydamnbody was dying. Seriously, I came out around that time, and those movies made it seem like contracting HIV was inevitable.

Posted by: Craig at April 15, 2010 1:06 AM

Mindy Cohn is so funny in this movie - so sweet - and so real. I thought the whole thing was hilarious. The subplots were all well done, and the writing is very funny, but Cohn is the best reason to see this. She is a fantastic comedienne. The perfect choice for "Violet." (And I disagree about the Netflix thing ... this is precisely the kind of movie you'll want to see in a roomful of homosexuals!)

Posted by: guypaul at June 25, 2010 12:55 PM

Nothing against MC, she was a sport to star in this. It just all looks a little awkward. This sort of thing was done brilliantly by Debra & Co on the Will & Grace TV series. The thing is, this concept could have made a very moving film in the right context and with the proper gravitas.

Posted by: WD at July 14, 2010 11:21 PM