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Comic Book Geekgasm Overkill?

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Trailers | Comments (42)



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Yes, the new trailer for Scott Pilgrim vs. The World looks great, if you’re into a certain kind of comic-book movie. Indeed, the newer trailer reveals just how comic-book geeky Edgar Wright’s follow-up to Hot Fuzz is going to be, and it’s really fucking comic-book-y. Good, bad? Depends on your affinity for comic books, I suppose. Personally, I kind of wish that Wright would’ve held back a little with the balloon words and the geeky pathetic-ness. It feels kind of like its rubbing our face in its geek cred, like Reality Bites did for slackers (granted, Reality Bites was fantastic). It’s just a little smug about it.

Also, Wright faces an uphill battle in revolving a movie around Michael Cera. Everybody else in this movie looks fantastic, especially Mary Elizabeth Winstead’s Ramona V. Flowers. But Cera’s mumbly obnoxiousness almost seems heightened here. And it’s the kind of movie where you’d kind of like to see the hero get his ass beat. A lot. And then the girl goes home with us.

The geek heavy sites are promoting this like it’s the second coming (but then again, it’s not like they ever came the first time — Hey O!), but I’m going to temper expectations a wee bit, if only because the movie looks narrowly tailored toward that fanboy audience. If you count yourself among that audience, then here’s a reason to celebrate. Own your geek and fly that fucking flag, dorks. Liberate your undergarments! Walk around the office today pants-less and if someone asks you why, you tell them that Scott Pilgrim said it was OK. Then quietly collect your belongings and make your way toward the unemployment line.









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Comments

In the words of Ice T: DAMN, that's HATEFUL!

Posted by: Jay at June 1, 2010 10:08 AM

Michael Cera playing a nebbishy hipster? Apparently Jason Statham and Tim Oliphant were busy. Somewhere sits a pile of scripts for nebbishy hipsters all waited for Cera to read through them and say "Well, mumble, mumble, mumble, maybe I'll do this one, mumble, mumble, mumble, if it's not a problem." It's not charming, it's not endearing, it just wants me angry! It angries up the blood! Someone fire up the Murdertank, and we'll leave a trail of satchels and soy lattes as bait.

Posted by: Mrcreosote at June 1, 2010 10:20 AM

Not saying this to be contrary but I think it looks like a load of wank.

Posted by: Alex the not so odd at June 1, 2010 10:22 AM

Hey. Be cool. Fanboys pay the bills.

Posted by: Sinestro at June 1, 2010 10:22 AM

I refuse to believe that she is true ginge until I see incontrovertible proof.

Posted by: admin at June 1, 2010 9:48 AM

Posted by: fashionclothes at June 1, 2010 10:27 AM

The best part? Mae Whitman (a.k.a., Ann Veal) is playing one of the exes that Michael Cera has to fight.

If there isn't at least one "Her?" in the script, bodies will hit the floor.

Posted by: Abe Froman at June 1, 2010 10:31 AM

I'm really confused on this whole hipster thing... What qualifies an individual as a hipster?

Posted by: Brian at June 1, 2010 10:32 AM

For once I'm with Doctor GeekHate above. The only reason I might give this movie the time of day is because it's coming from Edgar Wright. That's it.

It feels too full of itself, too cute and Michael Cera as the lead turns me away.

As for the geek sites creaming their pants, fear not Dustin: they all loved Kick-Ass and the rest of America proved them wrong. So you'll likely get to enjoy being in the right with the public again when this comes out and makes less than Jonah Hex.


You're probably right. But I actually really dug Kick Ass and was disappointed to be in the right, there. -- DR

Posted by: Fredo at June 1, 2010 10:32 AM

Wow, I am getting incredibly sick of nerd-gets-impossibly-hot-girl movies. And I don't even watch those movies. And I am a nerd.

Posted by: Todd at June 1, 2010 10:33 AM

Looks like Cera is really stepping out of his comfort zone on this one.

Posted by: Dangerous Dave at June 1, 2010 10:35 AM

As for the geek sites creaming their pants, fear not Dustin: they all loved Kick-Ass and the rest of America proved them wrong.

They also all loved "The Dark Knight", "Iron Man", "Spider-Man", and the LOTR movies and the rest of America (and the world) proved them right.

Just look at all those comic movies coming down the pipeline. Sure, there are bumps in the road and some of smaller, less well-known properties like Kick-Ass aren't going to make major bucks, but the well is deep and plentiful and there are no signs of slowing down.

So, stay on the Fear Train, "Cool Kiddos". This aint over by a damn sight.

I've said it once, I'll say it again: It's a Geek's world and you're all living in it.

As for this particular movie... Edgar Wright has earned the benefit of the doubt. I am not as anti-Michael Cera as most, probably because I haven't really seen enough of this films to be sick of him. I likely wont see it in the theater, but it will be worth a rental.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at June 1, 2010 10:42 AM

Aw, that looks... cute.

/nerd-hot girl gentle let down rejection

You know, I think I might need to read the comic books. The movie could either be ballistic or ball sweat nasty. But I do love Edgar Wright. And Simon Pegg pimped this on his twitter.

FYI, Dustin ol' chap, I know you've mentioned how you generally don't like celebrity twitterers, but Simon Pegg's is generally fun and he's really adorable with Nick Frost. And then he chronicles the life of his imaginary character "Jet Bike Steve." It's all very fun.

Why am I so "Meh." and ambivalent about this movie? Maybe it's that girl's wig. Either go comic book terrible or actually make her dye it, but don't have a bad wig that's trying to look real. It's all very vexing.

Posted by: Kayanne at June 1, 2010 10:51 AM

I'm sorry. Since when was Kick-Ass, a rated R comic book film with a curse word in its name featuring a child murdering people with sweet abandon, supposed to be the biggest hit of the year at the box office? Did I miss the memo that an independently financed feature film was supposed to be the next Iron Man? The film did great for what it was: an uneven indie action film laden with dark humor and shock value. The title alone alienated a large portion of the potential audience, and all the "pray for their souls, a child is a murderer" articles and reviews knocked out another big chunk. I mean, really: who could look at the fire scene in that film and think this was a big budget feature meant to be a box office sensation?

Posted by: Robert at June 1, 2010 10:54 AM

I've seen the trailer three times now and I'm still full of I don't care. I'm sure the Tweens will love it.

Also, Kick-Ass was average. So very average.

Posted by: admin at June 1, 2010 10:59 AM

Also, Kick-Ass was average. So very average.

Posted by: admin at June 1, 2010 10:59 AM

I agree. Hit-Girl was awesome. Whenever she and/or Big Daddy were on screen the film was a lot of fun. When they weren't, not so much.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at June 1, 2010 11:04 AM

They also all loved "The Dark Knight", "Iron Man", "Spider-Man", and the LOTR movies and the rest of America (and the world) proved them right.

Batman & Spider-Man: two of the three great comic book characters of all time. Known the world over.

Iron Man: Robert Downey Jr delivering one of the best performances in a "comic book movie" ever.

Lord of the Rings: one of the greatest literary works of all time. The birthplace of modern fantasy lit.

These things are not the same as Kick-Ass (which I liked btw).

Look, I'm a card-carrying member of Geek Nation. I have no problem admitting to my proclivities.

That said, I do find it a bit disconcerting that studios have now had just over a decade to figure out how to market to geeks and have it down cold. They know how to mobilize that demographic to garner maximum interest -- no surprise that it took a million "Likes" on Facebook to release a trailer that was going to be out anyways.

Ultimately, all these movies that the fanboys can't stop raving about will be sitting on shelves and in hard drives. It'll be the things people walk past on their way to stand in line for Batman Reborn (starring Zac Efron and Dakota Fanning).

Posted by: Fredo at June 1, 2010 11:20 AM

Did I miss the memo that an independently financed feature film was supposed to be the next Iron Man?

And yet you'd be remiss into thinking that was the case if all you saw was Aint It Cool.

Posted by: Fredo at June 1, 2010 11:21 AM

Trying to throw out the word "Geekgasm" and then annoint a movie as a possible box-office surprise is merely hoping for something impossible. There's no way this movie does well. It is, by it's very nature, limited to a specific set of people who aren't going to suddenly push it over the $65m mark (at most).

This has the same trappings as Kick-Ass and, to a degree, Watchmen.

I applaud Edgar Wright's style from the trailers, but to think that a movie like this is going to bring in anyone outside a very limited demographic (online enthusiasts) is crazy. Does this movie have any sort of crossover appeal? Is it going to appear (to the average person) anything more than an LSD-infused Nick and Norah or Juno? Doubtful.

Posted by: D-Day at June 1, 2010 11:35 AM

So now the spambot is not only copying comments, it's copying them...ACROSS DIFFERENT POSTS.

We're doomed. DOOMED.

Oh, the trailer? Don't give a shit. Just wish people everywhere would shut up about it.

Posted by: figgy at June 1, 2010 11:38 AM

These things are not the same as Kick-Ass (which I liked btw).

Which is exactly the point I was making.

The main difference between, say, a movie like "Kick-Ass" and movies like LOTR, Batman, Spider-Man, X-Men, etc are: (1) popularity of the source material; (2) budget; and/or (3) stars.

So, really what you're saying is that films based on well known comic book characters that have large budgets and/or well-known actors are going to make more money than films based on less known comic characters that have smaller budgets and/or lesser known actors. Uh, yeah. I totally agree.

The whole "fan boy"/ainitcoolnews thing is no great revalation or stricly limited to "geeks". Wasn't this lessen learned when "Snakes On A Plane" was released? Crazy internet buzz does not equal commercial success in a theater. The same holds true for TV shows as well.

I check out Ainitcoolnews occasionally. I skim some of the reviews (but never glance at those horrendous comment sections) and understand it for what it is.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at June 1, 2010 11:47 AM

What I'm seeing from the trailer is a true attempt to adapt the visual style of the source material which in terms of doing something interesting with cinema could really be something to see - and be really worth seeing IN a cinema.
Its less the Nolan Batman films and more Sin City looked to do but with a more rounded plot and less slavish aesthetic.

I've always feared Cera will be the weak link in the chain as regards this project as a film and an adaptation. Nothing in the trailers have shown him to have the unwise spunk and energy that Scott has as a hero in the books which is a real shame as most of the truly epic laughs come from Scott's deflation after somehow managing to overcome his insecurities but always always pushing it too far.

All of the suck in Kick-Ass seemed to stem from the moments where the whole production wussed-out of what made the comicbook so awesome, particularly the resolution of the romantic sub-plot which required MTV reality-show levels of retarded credulity from its audience even from within the context of the on-screen narrative.
I could see how such a hard-fought and hard-won production would make those compromises to a more studio friendly take on the story - but it was still a gods damnable shame.

The last volume of the tale comes out just before the film and Bryan Lee O'Malley has said they have different endings.
My innner Aristotle-sense tingles in the direction of the film getting the happy ending whereas the book will get the bittersweet life-lesson ending, a la The Wackness.

If the film sticks true to the best of what the story within Scott Pilgrim has to offer in terms of dynamism, wit, self-awareness, and tragi-comic truth of falling utterly head-first into early 20s love with a pretty girl you have convinced yourself is too cool/hot/good for you it really could be an epic of epic epicness.
The potential to fall into epic fail is also huge but would certainly make the result a more interesting film than one where the talent on screen is somehow ill-used and let down into a merely meh product.

Scott Pilgrim is also very far from a fanboy product as far as comics go. It has a built in irony and humour that it took RDJ to inject into the Marvel canon.
Its a true geek book, its market will span fanpeople, smart teen girls who treat Twilight as their guilty pleasure (and certainly don't describe themselves as team anything), people who like Mr Wright, culture-geeks, and gamers - but all those are ultimately meaningless marketing wank.

Posted by: PyD at June 1, 2010 11:48 AM

I'm so sick of hearing about this fucking movie I'm going to read an article about it, read all the comments regarding aforementioned article, and leave a comment of my own... *hhmmpphhh*

Posted by: just me at June 1, 2010 11:50 AM

Aubrey Plaza. Anyway, was that Ann from Arrested Development I see there?

Posted by: arrrghzi at June 1, 2010 12:07 PM

Also, when this movie is released and doesn't fair all that well commercially and everyone (well, DR at least), starts proclaiming how geeks have no pull at the box office, remember two things:

1) How did the last few Cera films perform?

2) How did the last few Edgar Wright films perform?

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at June 1, 2010 12:25 PM


The whole "fan boy"/ainitcoolnews thing is no great revalation or stricly limited to "geeks". Wasn't this lessen learned when "Snakes On A Plane" was released? Crazy internet buzz does not equal commercial success in a theater. The same holds true for TV shows as well.

Forbiddendonut, don't forget that "Snakes" was profitable, so plenty of Hollywood types probably feel fine with "internet buzz".

Posted by: morganew at June 1, 2010 12:29 PM

I really liked the first trailer, and I love the style of this one (I feel like the comic book word pop-ups are actually well used and interesting), and I love that Jason Schwartzman is getting more screentime here.

All that said, this one makes me significantly more nervous. The dialogue is...kinda painful. And as someone who still enjoys Michael Cera's shtick, and knowing reliable sources who assure me that the character is basically exactly like Michael Cera in the books, this may be the movie that pushes me over the line. I hope not, but it's possible.

Posted by: ChristianH at June 1, 2010 12:31 PM

Also, reading the comments, MAN do some of you have Cera hate. I mean, holy shit, calm down! Did he rape you? If he did, call the authorities. See a professional. But fucking christ, he's not out to murder you in your dreams; he doesn't need to be destroyed in order for your survival. Just chill. You don't want to see the movie, you don't have to. RELAX.

Posted by: ChristianH at June 1, 2010 12:39 PM

I mean, holy shit, calm down! Did he rape you? If he did, call the authorities. See a professional.

ChristianH, I think you're one of the dudes that bemoans my beloved Chuck, but because of that shit right there, all is forgiven. I applaud you. Also, be forewarned, Katherine Heigl's PR Team will probably be in contact with you shortly.

Posted by: Kayanne at June 1, 2010 12:52 PM

C'mon Pajiba, just admit you liked the trailer and stop bitching at it for once its tiring. Sometimes you're like a Time Period Film.

I was actually surprised by the annunciation and non-mumbliness of Michael Cera in this movie and it made me really happy. Although he's still a bit sammy, he's a bit different and you know it. I can tell your completely commenting on his past character roles.

Posted by: Theseus at June 1, 2010 12:53 PM

Reality Bites was herpes-infected ass on a dirty stick.

Oh, and what's Cera supposed to do? Turn down scripts? That's a great strategy for a working actor.

Posted by: apocalipstick at June 1, 2010 1:31 PM

It may look a bit annoying, but at least it's different. I really don't need another explodey/war Iron Man-style comic-book movie.

Posted by: Brenton at June 1, 2010 1:38 PM

I am confused at what exactly is "comic-booky" about the trailer.

I mean, I know it is based on one, but all of the graphics and special effects I see in it evoke more 80s-90s style video games than comic books.

Am I missing something?

Posted by: Vermillion at June 1, 2010 2:24 PM

Fredo - You know, with the way Hollywood runs now, your last sentence actually probably has a pretty fair chance of coming true. And when it does, I will cry and cry and cry and then never step in a movie theatre again.

Vermillion - nah, you're not missing anything. The actual Scott Pilgrim comic is drawn with those exact "80s-90s video game" flourishes so this is kind of like Sin City wherein there's a lot of direct panel-to-screen translation. The "K-O!!!" call (which doesn't really make an appearance in this trailer) makes that a little clearer, I think. Even though this whole movie is based on a comic...based in a video-gamey land. Hmmm!

Posted by: kiyo-chan at June 1, 2010 2:45 PM

What Vermillion said. I've never looked at this as a comic-book movie. Ever since I saw the original trailer I thought it was a shout out to video game nerds.

For fucksakes, he punched a guy and you hear "K...O..." in the background. Before a fight starts a "VS" symbol pops up in-between them.

Posted by: DeistBrawler at June 1, 2010 2:48 PM

There is no way it's going to be mediocre. Either it will be horrible and impossible to sit through or some kind of sublime joyful crossbreed of Crank, Sin City and Kill Bill Vol. 1. Those are the movies that come to mind for me.

Posted by: TylerDFC at June 1, 2010 4:19 PM

as someone with no firsthand knowlege of the source material, I gotta say...that looks fuckin' dope. been looking forward to it since the first teaser came out.

Posted by: HappyGobo at June 1, 2010 5:32 PM

Geeky as I am, I've never read the comic book and was entirely unaware of it's existence. I'll look it up later.

As for the trailer, I like it. Style-wise it goes from standard issue mumble mouthed nebbish rom-com to something approaching Kill Bill levels of gleeful violence minus the high pressure blood sprays. In short, it's old school fun and cartoonish video game violence.

And as far as Michael Cera goes, I hate him sooooo much. But this movie seems to have fixed that. It looks like they've turned his mumbling into a mere character trait instead of his defining character trait. Think of Jesse (Cera 2.0) Eisenberg in Zombieland. Sure he was a geek, but he could take care of himself for the most part. In this movie, Cera doesn't look like some bumbling mumbler. He can handle a flaming sword of death, work a mean combo, and play in a band.

I'll go see it.

Posted by: Harborwolf at June 1, 2010 6:42 PM

I don't know if I can agree with the argument that this is tailored to nerds. My wife hates comic books (and even the stately graphic novel) universally, but she's very excited about this. I think what you're taking as overt attempts to appease fanboys will be taken by others as cute head-nods to the source material or (more likely) just fun comic book-y things. All that said, I am a total fanboy and also think this looks fucking rad, so my judgement might be clouded.

Posted by: Gore Motel at June 1, 2010 7:35 PM

it got my geek up

Posted by: idleprimate at June 1, 2010 9:33 PM

Oh, hey, that guy's in this! He was great in Napoleon Dynamite, and Kick-Ass, and Zombieland, too! He really works a lot!

. . .

Waddaya mean he's not the same guy? FOUR different guys, you say? Nah!

Still looks like fun, and she's a cutie - I'd fight a bunch of supervillains for her.

Posted by: Meander at June 2, 2010 12:19 AM

This trailer looks awesome, but I'm not sure how this will translate into a full-length movie.

Posted by: AmbroseKalifornia at June 2, 2010 10:32 PM

As someone who has read the books (and loves them), I think this trailer looks awesome.

Posted by: Corntree at June 3, 2010 12:51 AM