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Why I Drink, Stone Angel Edition: Making a Doctor Who Film Unconnected to Series

By Steven Lloyd Wilson | Posted Under Trade News | Comments (26)



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Don’t blink? More like, don’t watch.

David Yates, director of the final four Harry Potter films and also with some credits on the fantastic “State of Play”, has decided that it’s time for “Doctor Who” to get the feature film treatment. This is wonderfully exciting, a director with the clout to actually make the project happen, and enough talent that it might actually work. Of course, he then spends the balance of his interview issuing statements that seem like they should be in an Onion article, if the Onion specialized not in humor but in hatefully jabbing at your soul.

He starts out with the good news: “We’re looking at writers now. We’re going to spend two to three years to get it right,”

And that’s a fair and encouraging statement. It’s always bad news when a director says “we need to get this to screen in the next six months before the investors demand their money back.”

Yates then drops this one:

“It needs quite a radical transformation to take it into the bigger arena.”

Well, no. I can’t agree with that, sir.

“We want a British sensibility, but having said that, Steve Kloves wrote the Potter films and captured that British sensibility perfectly, so we are looking at American writers too,”

I don’t want to be anti-American, because self-hating gives my immense ego hives, but I seem to recall there being a fair number of British writers from this British series that might make a contribution. I mean, what about getting Davies and Moffat involved?

“Russell T. Davies and then Steven Moffat have done their own transformations, which were fantastic, but we have to put that aside and start from scratch,”

Ah, the point in the movie where the record would scratch. Oh no, no, that successful series that is the justification for us being able to make a movie, oh we’re not going to use any of that material, we’re just going to use the name, the concept, and the fan base to make our own damned story.

Look, I came late to “Doctor Who,” having never seen an episode until the Davies series started up. But a massive part of what makes the series work is the recognition of the body of work that came before. The Doctor as a character is linked regeneration by regeneration through hundreds of stories. To just rip the character out of that stream, to invent him again on an island, is to demonstrate a complete misunderstanding of the core of the character.

If you want to do your own thing, call it “Inspector Spacetime,” I hear you can get the two leads for that in a couple of months.

(source: Variety)









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Comments

Did they not learn their lesson with the failed American made for T.V. movie? *sigh* This is why we can't have nice things.

Posted by: Bob Frapples at November 15, 2011 10:13 AM

"To just rip the character out of that stream, to invent him again on an island, is to demonstrate a complete misunderstanding of the core of the character."

I couldn't agree more.

Posted by: Bionicdildo at November 15, 2011 10:18 AM

So it's a reboot of an active series made more palatable for an international audience that quite actively embraced the active series? Who is the target audience if not the people who actively watch the show or used to watch another version of the show? I'm so confused.

Posted by: Robert at November 15, 2011 10:21 AM

I would watch the shit out of an Inspector Spacetime movie.

Posted by: Charlie Kelly at November 15, 2011 10:23 AM

I'm sure they'll give it a big budget with glossy special effects and CGI, have a boorish sidekick who never helps and calls him "Doc." Steep it in a gritty, dark atmosphere and portray the Doctor as a wandering vigilante, killing the lawless wherever he goes in his bright red time-traveling Aston Martin.

You know, in keeping with the spirit of the show and all.

Posted by: Jast at November 15, 2011 10:51 AM

If you want to do your own thing, call it “Inspector Spacetime,” I hear you can get the two leads for that in a couple of months.

Too soon!! Too soon. Still grieving.

Posted by: Sbrown at November 15, 2011 11:03 AM

Ooohh oohhh...Shia LaBore as the Doctor...Meagan Foxxx as random skank #2....there, casting done.

Posted by: NateS1973 at November 15, 2011 11:31 AM

If you want to do your own thing, call it “Inspector Spacetime,” I hear you can get the two leads for that in a couple of months.

Seriously. Way to break my heart with 2 pieces of news this morning more than the break up I am going through.

I might have to rage-quite life.

Posted by: Luis at November 15, 2011 11:43 AM

This isn't the first time this has been done. Back in 1965, there was a film release called "Dr. Who and the Daleks" with Peter Cushing playing a human scientist named Doctor Who. It was written by many of the writers of the serial show, which was in its third series with William Hartnell. The films (there is a sequel to it) isn't canon and took major liberties with the story line and characters that had already been established.

There is precedent for Yate's vision. I don't think I'd see it myself but that doesn't mean that he should be disallowed from creating it.

Posted by: bignick at November 15, 2011 11:51 AM

If they do it without the Daleks and/or the Master I will be extremely disappointed. All this "radical transformation" and "start from scratch" talk doesn't give me much hope for that.

Posted by: Socrates_Johnson at November 15, 2011 12:23 PM

When I first saw this story pop up online yesterday I was hoping it meant that the BBC was going to commemorate the 50th anniversary in 2013 with a huge balls to the wall film. Possibly with some past Doctor cameos.

But instead something not connected to the current series? I call B.S.

Posted by: Travis at November 15, 2011 12:31 PM

NO NO NO! This should not happen. Rewriting British shows for American TV or film never works. Something is always lost in the translation.

May I be the first American to apologize to Pajiba's British readers for the suckhole of dreck that this will be if American writers get their hands on it. I'm so sorry, I've watched Doctor Who sinfor many years and I love this series both old and new. American writers will not be able to capture the heart and soul of this series. They will only dumb it down for the U.S. market. Yates should know better.

Posted by: LB at November 15, 2011 12:31 PM

I'm not entirely sold on Yates' idea, but I don't have a problem in principle with the film acting as a standalone piece. To me the show is fundamentally about a mad man in a blue box having adventures across time and space. Look at the current series and you'll see that Davies' era and Moffatt's era are buffered from one another in many ways and have their own cast and crews as well as a different feel.

And there's no reason why "The Doctor" in the film would't necessarily be the thirteenth, fourteenth, etc. incarnation of the Doctor.

I do agree strongly though that the film should not be Americanised. Torchwood should be warning enough on that front.

Posted by: csb at November 15, 2011 12:47 PM

Sigh. I'm torn.

On the one hand, ok, I often deride Hollywood for its lack of creativity, and its tendency to take the same old stories and retell them again. So, ok, from that perspective, change is good. That's how we got the superior Battlestar Galactica remake, after all.

On the other hand, look, the whole draw of this property lies in its continuity and its characterization. If you don't retain that, in what sense is this "Doctor Who"? And generally speaking, these re-imaginings and reworkings... well, they suck. For every Battlestar Galactica we receive, there are a hundred Highlander 2s.

Posted by: foolsage at November 15, 2011 12:59 PM

Jesus Christ. I just hauled my arse out of bed, after a night of pretending to sleep, too hear this bloody news? Remember Torchwood. Ugh.

Posted by: hippyherb at November 15, 2011 1:19 PM

Watch them cast Nicholas Cage. Just watch them.

Posted by: cinekat at November 15, 2011 2:08 PM

There are some things where having multiple retellings of the same stories can work really well, every telling bringing something new to the characters or plot e.g. Sherlock Holmes. But I'm having trouble thinking about this for Doctor Who. Sometimes a TV series is enough.

Posted by: TS at November 15, 2011 3:26 PM

CSB -

I believe that a time lord's life span is 12 regenerations....Matt Smith is the 11th. I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time....I'll go geek out somewhere else now.

Posted by: LB at November 15, 2011 3:37 PM

They could make the movie-Doctor the 9th Doctor (in between McGann and Eccleston). We never saw that regeneration. So they could tell endless stories... On the other hand: Remember the Buffy-Reboot without Joss Whedon and all the uproar one year ago? Just saying.

Posted by: justus_jonas at November 15, 2011 4:27 PM

I wouldn't mind if this was a stand alone story, but fit in with the Doctor's history. Or even if they decided to redo the origins story IN COLOR with someone old playing the first Doctor (Bill Nighy, please please please). Or even if they redid the Peter Cushing movies, which were really fucked up William Hartnell stories, but if they did them right as the first Dalek stories. Heck, they could even bring back Wilf. He was in the 2nd Peter Cushing movie.

Posted by: BWeaves at November 15, 2011 5:18 PM

NOOOOOOOOO!

Just no.

Posted by: Candee at November 15, 2011 6:21 PM

"Did they not learn their lesson with the failed American made for T.V. movie?"

The failed made-for-TV movie was canon, and a prequel to the successful series reboot.

"They could make the movie-Doctor the 9th Doctor (in between McGann and Eccleston). We never saw that regeneration."

Eccleston WAS the ninth Doctor. McGann was the eighth. The only undocumented Doctor is the future 12th incarnation.

Posted by: Craig at November 15, 2011 6:42 PM

“It needs quite a radical transformation to take it into the bigger arena.”

...on account of how there have never been Dr Who films bef- wait.

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Posted by: iPhone 4 review at November 17, 2011 10:25 AM

"I believe that a time lord's life span is 12 regenerations....Matt Smith is the 11th. I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time....I'll go geek out somewhere else now." - LB

A Time Lord regenerates 12 times, meaning that he has 13 lives/personalities, counting the one he was born with. But there are theories that the Doctor had this reset as part of his participation in the Time War.

The Master, for example, used up his regenerations ages ago. Somewhere around the Doctor's fourth regeneration and much of the series covers him cheating that system, usually by possessing other beings like humans, or using magic like rituals of necromantic technology to keep his dying vessels alive.

But in the new series, the Master had all his regenerations restored as part of his service in the Time War, but more likely for his eventual covert purpose given to him by Rassilon.

Posted by: DarthBrookes at November 19, 2011 9:38 PM

Their both good games Skyrim is more story? based. Dark Souls is just to piss you off but also get rewarded for beating/doing the pissing off boss/locations. Locations i mean as in random A.I trying to kill you. Also the random people invading you if you're human x). Want a good story buy Skyrim, want a challenge that you may break a controller buy DarkSouls!

Posted by: Singer Denim at December 29, 2011 8:39 AM