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Box-Office Round-Up / Dustin Rowles

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Because this is the second week in a row there has been only one wide release, there’s not much point in rehashing the same films we’ve discussed in the last few weeks. Suffice it to say, the one wide release, The Golden Compass, achieved the top spot with a meager $26 million, mustering up an amount at the lower than expectations. It has virtually no chance of making back its $200 million production and marketing budget, at least not without a huge international grosses and a crapload of DVD sales, which means — of course — that Nicole Kidman has had only one unqualified box-office or critical success since she and Tom split up (2002’s The Hours). But then again, if you take out Moulin Rouge and, maybe, To Die For, has Kidman ever made a film that anyone can honestly say that had a real affection for? She really is an unnacceptably boring actress.

Anyway, that out of the way, let’s take this week and look and see how some of the smaller, well received (both here and elsewhere) films are right now. The biggest success, of course, is the Coen brothers’ No Country for Old Men, which has actually managed to work its way up the charts, finding itself at number six this week. In fact, with around $29 million so far, No Country is on track to be the biggest box-office draw of any Coen brothers film ever, surpassing O Brother, Where Are Thou?, which fetched $45 million. It’s depressing to think that no Coen film has made anymore than that, and that as of right now, their two worst films, Intolerable Cruelty and Ladykillers (good God I hated Ladykillers) are their second and third biggest films in terms of box-office (thanks to Clooney and Hanks, at their box-office peak, no doubt). Unbelievably, Lebowski only made $17 million, while Fargo only made $25 million, and I don’t know anyone who hasn’t seen those two films, while I don’t know a single soul (aside from poor JMW, who had to review it) who has seen Wild Hogs, which made $170 million. This, and a whole lot of other things, of course, is why Pajiba will never have millions of readers — we just aren’t in tune with the Wild Hogs crowd.

Mini-diversion: In your opinion, which is the best Coen brothers film? (My vote goes to Raising Arizona).

Among films that are finally getting to some of your small-town indie theaters, Ryan Gosling’s brilliant and heartbreaking Lars and the Real Girl has surpassed the $5 million mark, which is not bad considering that it’s a love story about a man and a blow-up doll. Unfortunately, without a big Oscar push, its chances of recouping its $12 million budget look slim. Elsewhere, Wes Anderson fatigue has clearly set in; The Darjeeling Limited, approaching the $13 million mark, looks to fall short of even where Rushmore landed ($17 million). Hopefully, his Roald Dahl animated feature, The Fantastic Mr. Fox will get him back on track in 2009. Anderson’s sometimes writing partner, Noah Baumbach, is faring even worse; after three weeks in release, Margot at the Wedding has barely even broken the $1 million mark, and things don’t look promising for expansion.

This weekend’s crowd-pleasing opener, Juno, buoyed by great reviews, award season buzz, and positive word of mouth, is killing, racking up a $60,000 per theater average on only seven screens, which is eight times more per theater than The Golden Compass. I suspect Juno, along with Waitress (which made nearly $20 million in theaters), will be the year’s biggest indies. God bless Fox Searchlight, which distributed both films and has to be the best of the indie outfits (inasmuch as you can call a Fox-owned studio an indie). Grace (I)s Gone, however, had a dismal opening, generating only $3,500 per screen, on four screens. C’mon, folks: It’s all right to cry; crying gets the sad out of you.

The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, which looks like a shoe-in for an Oscar nom in the foreign language category, is doing very well in very limited release; it racked up a $20,000 per theater average its first weekend, good for third in per screen average (our review will be up on Wednesday). Atonement, likewise, is riding solid buzz (our review of it will be up today) and put up impressive numbers in only 32 theaters this weekend, with an amazing $26,000 per theater.

Into the Wild, which — after nearly three months of release — is probably just now hitting theaters in Sheboygan, has put up a fairly respectable gross of $16 million. Conversely, Richard Kelley’s Southland Tales is going nowhere fast. After a month’s release, it has virtually no hope of breaking the half-million dollar barrier. The Savages isn’t doing particularly well, either; after two weeks, it’s hit $400,000 and probably will end up around $1.5 million as a final tally. Given the hype, subject material, and star power involved in the Bob Dylan indie I’m Not There, the producers have to be fairly unhappy with its current gross — after three weeks in release, it’s only made $2.2 million. Finally, I’ll mention the Jude Law and Michael Caine movie Sleuth simply because it arrived locally this week. But, the Cinemopolis has to be feeling bad about its prospects of selling a lot of popcorn laced in Brewer’s yeast, as Sleuth doesn’t stand a chance of making more than $300,000 total.

And, on DVD this week, just in time for Christmas, both The Bourne Ultimatum and Harry Potter and the Order of Phoenix hit shelves tomorrow. I’d wait until the trilogy box set is released before buying the former, while I probably wouldn’t bother with the latter, unless you’re a Potter completist.

And I’ll leave you, today, with a television show worse than even “Cavemen.”


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Comments

So "I Am Legend" is going to own the box office if it's even halfway competent, and maybe even if it's not, simply for lack of competition?

Posted by: twig at December 10, 2007 9:28 AM

"heil honey, I'm home"

Seriously?

Posted by: spinningjenny at December 10, 2007 9:34 AM

Maybe the indie movies would fare better if they showed in more than 5 cities in the entire freaking country.

If every multiplex devoted only 1 screen to indie features, that would drive up the box office. As long as you do it strategically.

Posted by: Chris W at December 10, 2007 9:40 AM

Granted, it's been a few years since I saw it, but I thought Intolerable Cruelty was funny.

As for the mini-diversion: I didn't like Lebowski the first time I saw it. But then it became my younger brother's favourite movie of all time. He quotes it constantly, watches it all the time . . . slowly he suckered everyone else into the house into adoration. Sometimes it surprises me that no one else recognizes "NOT THAT LENNON!" or "You're out of your league, Donny!" or "It's not like he built the fucking railway" or "El Duderino, if you're not into the whole brevity thing" ... I could go on. It was simply ubiquitous growing up. I highly recommend the special edition with the Masterpiece Theatre-esque intro discussing "The Grand Lebowski."

Posted by: Sarah at December 10, 2007 9:51 AM

Wait wait.

Yes, "To Die For" was fantastic and "Moulin Rouge" was wonderful, but The Ice Queen is far from boring. I loved her as the loving yet fierce doctor in "Days of Thunder". "The Hours" is the bf's favorite movie, and I thought she was wonderful in that as well. "Eyes Wide Shut" wasn't my favorite, but I thought she was great in that as well. And she blew me away in "The Others" and "Cold Mountain".

Maybe she's not on the cover of all of the tabloids, and maybe she is really a rockhard bitch, and maybe she sacrifices children to maintain her perfect skin... BUT Nicole Kidman rocks my world. I thought she was wonderful in "The Golden Compass" and I'm disappointed it didn't do well.

In any event, I'd go see it again, and we're in a fight until you take back your comments in the first paragraph of your round-up.

Posted by: David at December 10, 2007 10:08 AM

"Mighy fine cereal flakes Mrs. McDonough."

OK...looking past the Hitler comic thing...those were the worst effing jokes in the history of man.

Posted by: PissBoy at December 10, 2007 10:16 AM

Mini diversion answer: The Big Lebowski.

I laugh every time I even imagine Julianne Moore as Maude Lebowski saying in her wonderfully affected (origin unknown) accent, "Do you like sex, Mr. Lebowski?". And the rest of the movie is great too.

Posted by: nipsy at December 10, 2007 10:20 AM

Mini diversion answer: Raising Arizona.

Posted by: JMW at December 10, 2007 10:39 AM

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Damn! Good question. They're all so good (okay, I haven't seen "The Lady Killers" because all I've heard about it is bad, but I actually enjoyed "Intolerable Cruelty," even if it's not their best work. I loves me some "Wheezy Joe"). Off the top of my head, I'll have to go with "The Man Who Wasn't There," but I can't really qualify that. I've simply loved just about everything they've ever done.

Posted by: Armando at December 10, 2007 10:44 AM

Have to go with The Big Lebowski, for reasons similar to Sarah. If you live with someone who loves it, you will end up loving it too! Either that or you will want to kill yourself, so it's best to go with the flow.
And watching Lebowski on the big screen with a few hundred fans in robes, drinking White Russians, who are quoting and cheering throughout the movie is pretty fun.

Posted by: Kt at December 10, 2007 10:46 AM

The Big Lebowski, with Fargo a close second. It pains me that my mom doesn't like The Big Lebowski, but I'm going to make her watch it again this Christmas because she hasn't seen it in years.

I don't think the Golden Compass will have too much trouble meeting the $200 million mark, at least not with DVD sales.

Posted by: The Stew at December 10, 2007 10:46 AM

The Big Lebowski isn't just my favourite Coen bros. film, it might be my favourite of all time (toss up between it and M*A*S*H).

Posted by: causaubon at December 10, 2007 10:49 AM

Mini-diversion: It's a toss-up between Raising Arizona and Big Lebowski. I can't decide what's a more brilliant moment: The robbery for the diapers, or the destruction of the car at the hands of Walter.

Also, I'm glad you've found that video to show us. I heard abotu that sitcom recently, and have wanted to see a glimpse of it for a while. What a shitty theme song, though.

Posted by: jonr at December 10, 2007 10:49 AM

Mini-Diversion: How come no one ever mentions Hudsucker Proxy as a good Coen film? It may not be as good as Lebowski or Fargo, but it's definitely up there.

Posted by: chad at December 10, 2007 10:56 AM

I agree with Chris W, I'd be seeing Southland Tales if they'd FREAKING RELEASE IT IN MIAMI!!! Ahem. You can't tell me that wouldn't be a success, it has the Rock in it. Everyone loves the Rock! I watched part of The Rundown and Walking Tall for that man. And I'm planning to see Juno provided I can find it within an hour of me.

Coen Brothers Film: Fargo, but I'm feeling down on humanity at the moment.

Posted by: Rusty at December 10, 2007 10:59 AM

My favorite Coen Bros. film would be MILLER'S CROSSING.

I don't understand all the hate for THE LADYKILLERS. It's an infinitely more entertaining version than the original, which starred Alec Guiness and a young Peter Sellers. Tom Hanks takes on a role that seems slightly outside the dramatic comfort zone he has established for himself, and he does a fine job with the role - harder work and more payoff, really, than roles he's gotten Oscar noms for, quite frankly...

It's got plenty of slapstick and physical comedy, hearkening back to RAISING ARIZONA in that regard. It has a great cast all around, and the Coen Brothers take what is essentially a comedy of errors, and infuses all those shenanigans with ideas regarding faith, trust, devotion, sin, redemption, tradition vs. modernism, good manners, etc. The film may play off as some sort of throwaway comedy, but offers quite a bit of serious food for thought, and that's not easy to pull off, even for the Coen Bros.

I may be an apologist for them, but at this point I don't think the Coens are capable of making a bad film. I'm not even sure they're capable of making an average film.

Posted by: Mohaski at December 10, 2007 11:07 AM

I made it to the pet names in that piss poor tv show and had to stop. Clearly this will be a midseason replacement for Fox if the strike continues.
I love Raising Arizona, but I love O Brother too and probably quote it a lot more often. Dammit, Fargo rules too. Please, don't make me choose! I can't do it!

Posted by: Dangle McGee at December 10, 2007 11:13 AM

Mini-diversion answer: Fargo. No contest (though, I have a feeling that No Country... could be just as good).

What about most overrated Coens movie? The Big Lebowski (Seriously. It's just not that funny. I'd rate Hudsucker as waaaay above this).

Posted by: Boogs at December 10, 2007 11:16 AM

It looks like The Golden Compass pulled in $55 million overseas, which isn't bad!

Hopefully it'll do well enough internationally and on DVD that we get those sequels made. Better sequels, hopefully.

Posted by: Gordon at December 10, 2007 11:17 AM

I have to choose: Raising Arizona...on account of somethin' wrong with my semen..

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at December 10, 2007 11:31 AM

So while the Ladykillers was overall so-so, I was laughing with tears during the whole "You brought your bitch to the Waffle Hut" scene.

Posted by: Faye at December 10, 2007 11:45 AM

I also think Big Lebowski is overall a little overrated, although it has great individual scenes. I also couldn't choose a favorite Coen Brothers movie, but definitely wouldn't be Ladykillers. I really wanted to like that movie because I, like all Americans and old people, like Tom Hanks, but it just wasn't good at all.

So many movies mentioned here that I need/want to see. DVD rentals should be great in about 4-6 months.

Posted by: katy at December 10, 2007 11:46 AM

Diversion - Raising Arizona ties with O Brother Where Art Thou? but really, The Coens don't make bad movies and I love damn near all of them.

A good Nicole Kidman movie other than the ones listed: Dead Calm. Probably Billy Zane and Sam Neil's best movie too.

The Golden Compass suffered from crap marketing. Just because the ads are everywhere doesn't mean you are marketing the flick correctly. The trailer is vague and it's damn hard to figure out what is going on besides the talking polar bears and what appears to be a trip to the arctic. At least the trailer for Prince Caspian is smart enough to mimic shots from Return of the King's final battle scene.

Posted by: Rob at December 10, 2007 11:53 AM

While there are a few gaps in my Coen brothers DVD collection (I've still yet to see Raising Arizona, O Brother Where Art Though and Intolerable Cruelty), I think I can say with some confidence that none of them will be toppling Miller's Crossing as my personal fave Coen flick anytime soon.

Re: Kidman - how about The Interpreter? I quite enjoyed that one, and thought she was pretty good in it.

Posted by: Dill The Devil at December 10, 2007 11:56 AM

i am actually a big fan of BLOOD SIMPLE. it is just SO well done, and tells you so much about fear and love and sex whilst still being darkly funny. the imaginative use of sound, editing and lighting always stuns me. i think also, other Coens' bros stuff gets tainted by stoners endlessly quoting it at you in a oneupCoenship way that just makes me want to pretend I have never seen any of it and consider Robin Williams high comedy. Just to piss them off. So BLOOD SIMPLE gets my vote.
as for that clip-i am a Brit and reruns of this used to be on all the live-long day. It brings back a really unpleasant, depressing Sunday night Tv sort of feeling.yuck.

Posted by: cheast at December 10, 2007 12:00 PM

Mind you don't cut yourself, Morticai.

If you're asking for their best? No Country, no contest.

But my favorite? Uh.. Which ever one I'm watching at the moment. Probably Raising Arizona, or Lebowski or Hudsucker. You know, for the kids!

Side note, I read the script for Intolerable and woke my room mate with how hard I was laughing. Funniest script I've ever read. I have no idea what happened to the movie.

Posted by: Beckylooo at December 10, 2007 12:10 PM

Favorite Coen Brothers movie: The Hudsucker Proxy. Because Bruce Campbell is in it. There are many other reasons, but there you go.

Posted by: insertclevernamehere at December 10, 2007 12:16 PM

Fargo easily, nice and black. But I haven't seen No country... yet.
Also I agree that even a bad Coen Brothers film is still a good film, so Intolerable Cruelty, is definitely not a guilty pleasure.
I have to say I never got The Big Lebowski, I guess I should see it again. Maybe I'll put it on my Christmas wish list.

Posted by: ChrisD at December 10, 2007 12:31 PM

This is a hard question, it's difficult to be subjective and differentiate between the best and the most-loved.
I hold The Big Lebowski dearest, simply for nostalgic pangs of belonging to a gang-of-four who watched it about once a fortnight over 2 years before we all grew up and grew apart. The obsession just made it funnier, though as has already been aptly commented, the memory has been tainted by over-quoting young stoners (haven't had the heart to watch it in a few years)

Nostalgia aside, Fargo. i think.

Posted by: tiggyT at December 10, 2007 12:39 PM

PS - that was a good diversion from the awfulness of Heil Honey I'm Home making my eyes/ears bleed. No residual effects, nice save!

Posted by: tiggyT at December 10, 2007 12:43 PM

Had the question been asked before I'd seen No Country For Old Men I would have said Fargo, no question, but No Country... left me speechless.

Mini diversion diversion; my favorite Coen brothers film is O' Brother Where Art Thou?

Posted by: Dave at December 10, 2007 12:49 PM

I have to agree with Beckylooo on the mini-diversion: But my favorite? Uh.. Which ever one I'm watching at the moment. The Coens can do no wrong; even Ladykillers and Intolerable are better than most of the stuff out there.

Posted by: Rebecca at December 10, 2007 12:55 PM

Not to steal Pajiba's thunder (really enjoy the work done here), but if anyone's morbid curiousity was piqued by the YouTube clip, Cracked did a feature on some of the worst television shows ever to air last month, and I believe this show got the top spot. I also believe that most, if not all of the shows featured have clips to accompany them as well. If you're interested, I found it pretty funny. Um, thanks for jogging my memory?

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at December 10, 2007 12:57 PM

I saw No Country for Old Men last night, and I'm still disturbed. God damn. But my favourite Coen brother film has got to be the Lebowski. Hudsucker was a revelation at the time, but has not sustained the level of intensity. Fargo, brilliant, but my own personal taste seeks relief in comedy rather than gore, so while brilliant I don't want to see it over and over again. Unlike the Dude.

"We are nihilists. We believe in nothing!"

Posted by: Farfalina at December 10, 2007 1:15 PM

Having recently seen No Country and had my breath taken away, I decided to rewatch a few of my Coen Bro's favorites. I've come to the conclusion its almost impossible to chose between Fargo, The Big L, and now No Country. Gun to my head its Fargo put slightly ahead by what I feel is one of the most finely acted movies I've ever seen. Like others have mentioned, they just don't make bad films.

Posted by: pete at December 10, 2007 1:20 PM

I don't think I can choose between Raising Arizona and the Big Lebowski. How do you judge which is better between scenes like the crazy Germans baseball-batting the answering machine and Hi longingly driving past convenience stores that "weren't even on the way home"?

Posted by: Rahel at December 10, 2007 1:27 PM

After pondering on the mini-diversion, I've decided that the brothers Coen are my favorite filmmakers. With a couple of exceptions (Like "Hudsucker"), I love everything they do.

There is a very special place in my heart for "O Brother". It's so damn goofy and funny. George Clooney's nutty, all-in performance completely knocked the legs out from underneath his suave leading man persona and earned him a little more respect in my book. The soundtrack brought old time country and bluegrass music (and Ralph Stanley!) a lot of national attention. And when I saw it in the theater, it was one of the few times I'd seen my normally reticent uncle (God rest his soul) belly laugh.

Or course, It's infinitely quotable.

"Say, any of you boys smithies? Or, if not smithies per se, were you otherwise trained in the metallurgic arts before strained circumstances forced you into a life of aimless wanderin'?"

Posted by: Alabamapink at December 10, 2007 1:30 PM

I can feel a Coen brothers festival coming up as entertainment during our cold winter. Thanks for putting the thought in my head, Dustin.
I'm not happy that it will be months and months before we can see No Country For Old Men or Juno.
So it goes.

Posted by: DJO at December 10, 2007 1:39 PM

It may be just a rumor, but I figure if anyone would know it'd be the Pajibberooskis.

I heard that Miller's Crossing was written in iambic pentameter. Take away the fact that it's one of the finest gangster films ever put on screen, but to pull that off. Damn.

Posted by: insertclevernamehere at December 10, 2007 1:51 PM

Well I don't know if this is their best movie, but it's certainly my favorite Coen Brothers movie: The Hudsucker Proxy

And of course, a close second is The Big Lebowski.

Posted by: citizen_cris at December 10, 2007 2:06 PM

"I don't think I can choose between Raising Arizona and the Big Lebowski. How do you judge which is better between scenes like the crazy Germans baseball-batting the answering machine and Hi longingly driving past convenience stores that "weren't even on the way home"?"


Exactly.

I like "fun" a little more than I appreciate "good", so it's their comedies that win for me.

Having a Landmark theater in Atlanta helps a lot in countering Atlanta's third rung or worse standing with limited releases, since Landmark seems to distribute the same to all of their markets, ie. "Fay Grim" and "Control" recently. But they don't get everything. You can *read* about every single movie coming out, the reviews appear and you see "STARTS TODAY!". Oh, cool, maybe I'll go see that......Oh....fuckin LANY!!!! Is there a release date for my city? Who knows?? This three theater exhibition counts as the "Release Date" and we won't bother to inform you further. The worst was trying to track "A Hard Day's Night" in 2000. Took a good five months before it suddenly appeared at Christmas.

I understand there's risk and cost in wide release, but yeah, adding another handful of cities, at LEAST, just might get those curious, excited people out in no man's land to give you some money.

Yeah, it's more like condescension sometimes.

Posted by: Jay at December 10, 2007 2:09 PM

This site's got flies...

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at December 10, 2007 2:24 PM

raising arizona! "son, you got a panty on your head."

Posted by: kelley at December 10, 2007 2:29 PM

Mini-Diversion: Raising Arizona. That scene in the car when she slaps the unholy bajeebus outta Nick just floors me everytime.

It's the small women, folks, you gotta watch out for.

"I've said my piece, and counted to three." (I know it's a different movie, but she still rocks.)

Posted by: that bees chick at December 10, 2007 2:46 PM

Mini-diversion: I just don't think I can choose. I loved Lebowski, but Fargo edges it, I think, for the combination of dark humor and dramatic power. But Raising Arizona has been one of my favorite movies for as long as I can remember, and I truly believe Miller's Crossing is on the same level as The Godfather and Goodfellas.

"What heart?"

Posted by: Todd at December 10, 2007 3:09 PM

Apart from Raising Arizona being my fave. Lebowski is so good, SO. GOOD....


It made Tara Reid look good.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at December 10, 2007 3:13 PM

[quote]Favorite Coen Brothers movie: The Hudsucker Proxy. Because Bruce Campbell is in it. There are many other reasons, but there you go.[/quote]

Word for word my comment.

Posted by: Seth L at December 10, 2007 3:34 PM

I agree with everyone here that the Coen brothers do not put out a bad movie. Thus, choosing my favorite will prove quite difficult. I think I enjoy O Brother Where Art Thou? and The Big Lebowski the most. I honestly could not choose which one is my most favorite since both are pretty special to me for some sentimental reasons (I attach memories to movies and music).

It seems as though I need to see No Country for Old Men; however, my local indie movie theater isn't showing it. However, they are showing Awake. Very promising.

Posted by: Gigi Worthington at December 10, 2007 3:37 PM

Uh, Bruce Campbell was in Fargo, too.

Posted by: Todd at December 10, 2007 4:03 PM

I can admit it, I did like Nicole Kidman in Cold Mountain. She was her usual boring self, but the story carried her performance. I'm partial to O Brother Where Art Thou because the music is so good.

Posted by: Agente Provocatrice at December 10, 2007 4:28 PM

Afternoon Comment Diversion: Fargo

And who's idea was it to make a sitcom about Hitler??? That part I still don't get.

Posted by: Ben at December 10, 2007 4:37 PM

Cohen Diversion - First to Worst, Sports Guy Sytle

The Marching to 19-0 Division
Fargo (1996)

The They Can't All Be Fargo Division
Miller's Crossing (1990)
O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000)
Blood Simple (1984)
Barton Fink (1991)
The Big Lebowski (1998)
Raising Arizona (1987)

The You're Pretty Good When Your Worst A'nt half Bad Division
The Man Who Wasn't There (2001)
Intolerable Cruelty (2003)

The Haven't Seen and Can't Explain Why Division
The Hudsucker Proxy (1994)
No Country for Old Men (2007)

The Haven't Seen but I Might One of These Days Division
The Ladykillers (2004)

Posted by: Brian at December 10, 2007 4:51 PM

I've only seen three of their movies, "Raising Arizona", "Fargo", and "No Country For Old Men". I love them all, but my favorite of the three is "Raising Arizona".

I love Holly Hunter's face as she cradles that recently stolen baby in her hands, and looks over at Nick Cage, balling "I love him sooo-oo-oo much!"

Posted by: kayla at December 10, 2007 5:32 PM

I've only seen three of their movies, "Raising Arizona", "Fargo", and "No Country For Old Men". I love them all, but my favorite of the three is "Raising Arizona".

I love Holly Hunter's face as she cradles that recently stolen baby in her hands, and looks over at Nick Cage, balling "I love him sooo-oo-oo much!"

Posted by: kayla at December 10, 2007 5:41 PM

My fave is The Hudsucker Proxy.


What gives?!

Posted by: greer at December 10, 2007 6:00 PM

actually, i think Bruce Campbell might be in more Coen bros. films (or films the Coens have worked on) than Buscemi, Goodman, Turturro or McDormand. he's in Hudsucker, Fargo, Intolerable, and Ladykillers and Crimewave was co-written by the Coens. it may have something to do with the fact that the Coens and Sam Raimi are old friends- Joel worked on Evil Dead and i also read somewhere that the Coens lived in Raimi's apartment while working on Blood Simple.

Posted by: causaubon at December 10, 2007 6:04 PM

ok, i just checked, if you count E.D. as a film that involves the Coens (at least one) then Bruce has been in six, Goodman has been in five.

Posted by: causaubon at December 10, 2007 6:09 PM

Yes. All true. All great points, sir. But he's actually IN The Hudsucker Proxy. Not as a voice. Not as an Uncredited Soap Opera Star. Nope. He's onscreen. As a character.

Posted by: insertclevernamehere at December 10, 2007 6:13 PM

I've seen Raising Arizona, Blood Simple, The Big Lebowski, The Hudsucker Proxy, Oh Brother Where Art Thou, Fargo, and now No Country For Old Men, and No Country just blew everything out of the water for me. Blood Simple was my favorite up until then.

Posted by: Rob at December 10, 2007 6:30 PM

fine, insertclevernamehere, be a knitpicker, but i think he is also onscreen in Ladykillers.

Posted by: causaubon at December 10, 2007 6:38 PM

They're friends with Sam Raimi? That REALLY explains A Simple Plan. Watching NCfOM last night, I was really struck by some of the resemblances to A SImple PLan. Anyone with me on that?


And how could I have forgotten Barton Fink!!?!

Posted by: Farfalina at December 10, 2007 6:45 PM

Aw, causaubon, I'm not picking a fight. I'm just saying, I really like that Bruce Campbell gets into the mix with the other characters in Hudsucker Proxy. I like all of the characters. The bizarre machine speak. It's why I like the movie. I'm agreeing with you, he's in a lot of their movies. But he actually gets to shine on screen, and with Jennifer Jason Leigh and John Mahoney. That's in particular why I like it.

Posted by: insertclevernamehere at December 10, 2007 7:03 PM

sorry, insertclevernamehere, i wasn't insinuating that you were picking a fight, just picking knits (although here's me, pot, calling you black).

Posted by: causaubon at December 10, 2007 8:00 PM

mini-diversion:

i'm not sure of a filmmaker outside of kubrick who has pleased me more with a consecutive trio like miller's crossing/barton fink/the hudsucker proxy.

so i'm not cheating, of those three, i'll vote miller's crossing as the masterpiece!

Posted by: matt at December 10, 2007 11:05 PM

My favourite is Lebowski. I love so many of the characters and I definitely seem to quote it more than other films.
I sleep in a purple shirt with "The Dude Abides" and a very cute picture of Jeffrey on it. But that's neither here nor there, I mean it's Jeff Bridges after all!
I also love Fargo and The Hudsucker Proxy. You get more square footage of Bruce Campbell in Hudsucker, so that's a big plus. In Fargo I think he only shows up on the tv a character is watching.

Posted by: Loob at December 10, 2007 11:32 PM

Heh! I just noticed everyone also talking about Bruce Campbell! Sorry, I didn't read the comments before I jumped in. But it's good to feel the love out there for Bruce! :)

Posted by: Loob at December 10, 2007 11:39 PM

Sarah:

I agree with you about the Lebowski love, but as a former annoying stoner Lebowski quoter, I have to point out that all your quotations are wrong except for your "Ed Duderino." Sorry, but if you're going to be obnoxius (as am I) and quote a movie, you have to get it exactly right. It's a pet peeve of mine.

So it's probably pretty obvious as to which movie is my favorite. Although I haven't seen No Country yet.

I really hated Intolerable Cruelty and The Ladykillers, but after reading everyone's comments, I realize a good point has been made. Had I not gone into those films expecting the greatness of the Coens, I might've like them just fine.

Posted by: tinmo at December 11, 2007 1:18 AM

Fargo, and then No Country for Old Men (and then Blood Simple). I guess I like my comedy best when it's eked out of bleakness.

Also, a Public Service Announcement: it's "shoo-in" and "nitpick." The spam filter doesn't let me link to the reference materials, so just trust me: I looked it up, and I'm right.

Carry on.

Posted by: be right back at December 11, 2007 2:45 AM

I'm sure NCFOM will be my favorite once I've seen it, but in the meantime Blood Simple and Fargo are, to me, cinematic perfections. I try to pretend that Ladykillers and Intollerable Cruelty were made by someone else and that I never saw them.

Posted by: Lauren at December 11, 2007 3:09 AM

At any given time my favourite Coens film - with the exception of Ladykillers and O Brother - is the one I've watched most recently. I really like Intolerable Cruelty and Hudsucker Proxy which often get overlooked; though I'm not an expert, I think they're almost as effective in the films they invoke as Blood Simple was.

I don't dislike The Ladykillers, but then I don't have much love for the original. The remake made me guffaw aloud on a couple of occasions, while I was more thinking 'that's a great bit of acting' or 'that's a good line' without actually laughing when watching the original. I guess therein lies the difference between "better" and "more enjoyable".

Posted by: Craig at December 11, 2007 4:08 AM

I'm going to have to go with The Big Lebowski as my favorite Coen movie with No Country edging in at #2. TBL also happens to be my favorite movie of all time. I even have a podcast dedicated to it.

I wasn't a huge fan of Intolerable Cruelty or Lady Killers, but they weren't awful movies. I think the Coens do well at everything they do, I just don't always appreciate it as much as their other works.

Posted by: Chalupa at December 11, 2007 10:57 AM

I haven't seen all The Coen Brothers Films, but I can't imagine any of them to be as strong as "No Country." It was right in my wheelhouse and I loved every minute of it.

Posted by: Erik at December 11, 2007 11:55 AM

So hard.

Will have to agree with Raising Arizona though. It's so different from the others like Fargo or even Lebowski. Looking forward to No Country in a big, big way.

Posted by: GinKirk at December 11, 2007 1:29 PM

The Big Lebowski and O Brother, Where Art Thou? are my favorite Coen films, both equally fantastic and able to hold up to repeat viewings. I'm watching Lebowski right this moment, as a matter of fact.

Posted by: Jen at December 11, 2007 7:01 PM

Fargo, followed closely by Raising Arizona, followed closely by Lebowski.

Nicole Kidman was in The Peacekeeper, which is one of my favorite "oh look what's on Encore, I have to watch it now" films, but I love it because of The Clooney, not Nicole.

Now for the tie-in: I despise O Brother, Where Art Thou, despite the Coens AND despite Clooney.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at December 11, 2007 9:27 PM

i don't really have strong feelings either way about Nicole Kidman, but everything about 'Dogville' was absolutely flawless, including her performance. seriously, most underappreciated gem EVER.

Posted by: mex at December 14, 2007 11:21 AM

Big Lebowski. I have seem just about all their movies and I love this one best, not just as a Cohen Bros. movie, but as one of my all time favorites.

One time, my sister was shopping around in Canada and she found something called Nihilist Gum. It had no addatives, no flavor, no sugars, nothing. It was just the basic ingredients of gum and that's it. Because apperently, nihilists believe in nothing. Anyways, she saw this gum and immediately thought of me and my love for this movie. So that was what she bought for me on her trip to Canada.

Posted by: CarpePancakes! at December 16, 2007 9:23 PM