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TR2N News Dump / Dustin Rowles

Trade News | January 9, 2009 | Comments (44)


I’ve been wholly reluctant to write about Tron 2.0, in part because I never saw the first one, and because it’s based on a game that kicked my ass when I was a kid, stealing my parent’s change, and hanging out at the Laundromat (Fun Fact: My parents actually called the cops on me after I stole all the quarters from their mint collections to play Tron and Galaga. I was in the second grade!) I’m also kind of perplexed as to why they’d make a sequel to a 26 year old movie that no one under the age of 30 has probably even seen. I get the feeling, too, that — Jeff Bridges, notwithstanding — they aren’t missing much (though I also gather that the original movie carries a lot of nostalgia for those over 30).

Anyway, they are making a sequel. It’s been in production for, like, ever. Steven Lisberger, who wrote and produced the original, is producing here, while Joseph Kosinski — whose claim to fame is directing a few commercials for Gears of War and Halo 3 — will be directing it. I had a difficult time deciding whether Tron 2.0 was going to be a decent film or a money grab, but the cast they are now assembling suggests the latter. Olivia Wilde (“The O.C.” “House”) was cast last year, as a siren, and Beau Garrett (Turistas), a former CosmoGirl, will play a programmer.

Then, this week, they hammered the nail in the coffin of Tron 2.0’s chances by casting Garrett Hedlund as the lead. That’s not a name you’ll probably recognize, but you may recognize his face. Let’s just say he’s not a particularly good actor and leave it at that. He’s kind of like a poor man’s Paul Walker, who himself is a poor man’s Mark Wahlberg (who is kind of a poor man’s Matt Damon, himself). In other words, Hedlund is financially four steps removed from Matt Damon, which is to say that he’s not even worthy of doing stand-in work on Bourne flicks, i.e., he’s on par with Ryan Phillipe. What is kind of confusing is that Hedlund apparently beat out Ryan Gosling and Chris Pine for the role, which suggests that Kosinski has set out to intentionally create a shitty film.

Not a lot has been revealed about the plot, except that it’s about a man who finds himself pulled into the world of a computer to retrace the steps of a character from the original movie named Kevin Flynn, which — again — doesn’t bode well, if the movie is seemingly relying on its target demographic having seen the original. But whatever.

Finally, I’m not sure what’s going on with this, since the principal filming hasn’t even begun on Tron 2.0, but a few months ago, Eep sent me a link to some test footage, which was unveiled at Comic Con last year. It’s blurry as hell, but the footage was clearly enough to excite the audience at Comic Con, not that it takes a lot (put a chili dog in a Princess Leia outfit and, within minutes, the floor would be viscous and sticky).

And, for shits and giggles, here’s the trailer for the original:









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Comments

I actually re-watched Tron recently and you know what? It still kinda works. Sure, some of it aged poorly, but nothing's really been done like it, or at least not effectively.

That said, I have zero faith in the sequel.


End of line.

Posted by: TK at January 9, 2009 9:06 AM

I'm also kind of perplexed as to why they'd make a sequel to a 26 year old movie that no one under the age of 30 has probably even seen.

Hmmm, good point. Sadly, my knowledge of Tron doesn't extend past a level they based on it in Kingdom Hearts 2. What? It was a good game!

Posted by: Jeremy Feist at January 9, 2009 9:09 AM

I played Tron on the Intellivision for hours on end. In hindsight, the game is terrible, but it didn't matter.

Godtopus, please make them make 2.0 good. C'mon I'm praying here!

Posted by: admin at January 9, 2009 9:17 AM

Which Tron on the Intellivision? There were like 3 or 4 of them. Tron Deadly Discs was clearly the best and a pretty good game, if a bit repetitive. Well, I guess that one would be the best, unless, of course, you consider Snafu to be a light ycle simulator. Then Sanfu may beat it out.

When I was a kid, I once watched Tron all day. We rented it from the local video store and I just sat in the livingroom watching it, re-winding it, watching it again, re-winding it, etc. I think I watched it like 5 times in a row, maybe 6.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at January 9, 2009 9:22 AM

I actually saw Tron a few months ago, and it hasn't aged too terribly. I usually hate 80s movies (sorry, but I grew up in the 90s and I'm opinionated), but that one was fun, and seeing the documentaries on how it was made was fascinating. That said, I'm going to agree with TK--zero faith in the sequel. Since when have rehashed nostalgia trips worked for Hollywood, really? The closest we've come to success is Transformers, and...yeesh. No thanks.

Posted by: kalexal at January 9, 2009 9:32 AM

It was Deadly Discs Forbiddendonut. The zzzzzz sound the discs made was awesome and then the big friggin machine comes out after you kill so many guys, those were the days. In my opinion, Snafu doesn't even come close.

Posted by: admin at January 9, 2009 9:35 AM

it's based on a game that kicked my ass when I was a kid, stealing my parent's change, and hanging out at the Laundromat

I didn't make it past this sentence. I had to reread it like eight times before I realized that Tron wasn't stealing your parent's change and hanging out at the laundromat (presumably to do laundry with the stolen change).

I have absolutely nothing else to contribute.

Posted by: HB at January 9, 2009 9:40 AM

I loved me some Sanfu. The only drawback was that it was pretty easy.

Tron Deadly Discs got a lot tougher as the game went on. I totally agreedm admin, that soft zzzzz sound was so incredibly rewarding. That and when you were able to pull off the behind-the-back diaganol block with your disc. Simply a thing of beauty. That big red machine thing was no joke. Those were, indded, the days...

I burned through quite a few Intellivisions in my day. The new games were the highlight of many a Christmas back when I was just a wee little Forbiddendounthole.

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at January 9, 2009 9:43 AM

Team Dustin's parents: they certainly made their point, didn't they? ;-) Obviously, the lesson was effective because a) you're not posting this from prison (as far as we know) and b) you still remember it!

Tron was pretty good for it's time, but I haven't seen it in years. I'm not sure about the idea of a sequel, though....

Posted by: Tarn at January 9, 2009 9:45 AM

tron, like ione skye, has mainly retained its cultural relevance through its frequent appearance as a solution in crossword puzzles.

Posted by: celery at January 9, 2009 9:46 AM

Blah, blah, blah, Generation Douchebag and anyone in their 20's probably haven't seen Tron, etc, etc, etc.

I think that we at the kiddie table are actually in a unique position. I've seen Tron countless times, and while I like it very much, I'm not so tied to the original that I abhor this remake idea. Yes, it will most likely be sub-par, but we at least get to see an interesting new twist to the CGI, which so far amounts to bikes that don't travel in straight lines.

There's a 68.71% chance I'm right.

Posted by: branded at January 9, 2009 9:46 AM

I love Tron, I'm guessing they are re-imagining it for the younger, grungier, more sophisticated kids of today...

But isn't that kind of what the Matrix movies did?

I'm guessing there'll be bullet-time and wire work in this.

I see they've updated the frisbee design to be more like the modern ring shaped frisbees, just so the kids can run around braining eachother with the toys like I did when I was a kid. Of course back in my day, those frisbees had enough weight to draw blood.

Young Rory never really spoke again without the drooling slur after I beaned him behinnd the ear with my "data disk".

Ah, good times.

Posted by: Bane at January 9, 2009 9:49 AM

Hey, I'm 23 and I grew up on Tron. It was AWESOME.

Posted by: gatesong at January 9, 2009 9:49 AM

Dustin, you've never seen the glory that is Tron?! But... it's got Boxleitner! And Londo Mollari! And 1982's finest special effects!!!

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at January 9, 2009 9:50 AM

Well.....the blacklight world's fun to look at, so that clip works pretty well. Also, the lightcycle that you revved up with a ripcord was a damn good sturdy little toy (much like the A-wing fighter). But what's taking the place of the David Warner gold here? That's the important question.

And seriously, does anyone know what's suddenly appeared in the Pajiba pages that's confusing IE? I'm as curious as annoyed by now, as I do like a baffling puzzle.

Posted by: Jay at January 9, 2009 9:52 AM

Like H.B., I got stuck on that sentence for several minutes. You shoud offer it to the people at Princeton who put together the SATs and such. They could use it as one of the sentences students shoose from to show that they do or don't know good structure. It could come just after:
"Standing on the edge of the brook, one foot in the water and his antlers glistening in the sun, the photographer watched the stag as the sun set".

Posted by: PaddyDog at January 9, 2009 10:07 AM

Like H.B., I got stuck on that sentence for several minutes. You shoud offer it to the people at Princeton who put together the SATs and such. They could use it as one of the sentences students choose from to show that they do or don't know good structure. It could come just after:
"Standing on the edge of the brook, one foot in the water and his antlers glistening in the sun, the photographer watched the stag as the sun set".

Posted by: PaddyDog at January 9, 2009 10:07 AM

I love you, Jeremy Feist. KH2 ruled my world when I played it. And sadly, no one else here will have any idea what we're talking about, more than likely.

Posted by: Snath at January 9, 2009 10:13 AM

Fuck me I'm getting old. When's the new Lawnmower Man coming out?

Posted by: Xtreme at January 9, 2009 10:20 AM

I have to politely disagree...Garret Hedlund can act when required, he just gets....questionable roles. He was sort of awesome in Four Brothers, IMO, he just apparently has a terrible, terrible agent who keeps getting him sucky second rate or supporting roles in usually les than quality cinematic fair


I'm holding out until i see it before i decide if it'll suck or not, i could never understand the first one but i know enough to be excited about That Cameo so we'll see....we'll see

Posted by: nadine at January 9, 2009 10:21 AM

Apologies for double-post. Not working on my own computer this morning.

Posted by: PaddyDog at January 9, 2009 10:24 AM

Snath: True true. Although it did have some pretty cringe-worthy moments. Who the fuck decided that another trip to Atlantica was necessary? And you don't, you know, FIGHT at all, you just spend an hour SINGING.

And don't even get me started on that annoying little goat thing that kept screaming at me to "GET ON THE HYDRA'S BACK!"

Posted by: Jeremy Feist at January 9, 2009 10:26 AM

I do recall that being a fun fight besides that little satyr guy.

Posted by: Snath at January 9, 2009 10:29 AM

Dustin, you've never seen the glory that is Tron?! But... it's got Boxleitner! And Londo Mollari!

What? Now Anna von Beaverplatz is just making up nonsense words. Are those games? People? Designer drugs?

Posted by: marya at January 9, 2009 10:38 AM

I kind of think the boy is pretty, at least in this picture.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at January 9, 2009 10:39 AM

I think he looks like a spotted dick.

Posted by: Snath at January 9, 2009 10:41 AM

In second grade? That is pretty freakin' harsh, bro. My parents called the cops on me, too. But I was 16 and stealing their car.

You know, this explains a lot.

Posted by: boo at January 9, 2009 10:59 AM

Hey, weirdo big letters are gone! Obviously I intimidated that shit right out of existence. Still wanna know what did it. Flummox and vex the Sagittarian, why don't you!

Is marya saying she don't know Boxleitner though? Well you're in for a TREAT! Hey, is Tales of the Gold Monkey on dvd yet?

Posted by: Jay at January 9, 2009 11:12 AM

... lightcycles don't work like that.

Posted by: twig at January 9, 2009 11:36 AM

I love you, Jeremy Feist. KH2 ruled my world when I played it. And sadly, no one else here will have any idea what we're talking about, more than likely.

Such. little. faith.

It breaks my heart(less).

I shall immediately enter Final Form and dual-Keyblade you both until litte bits of munny come out.

Posted by: Vermillion at January 9, 2009 12:26 PM

What I've heard of the TRON sequel drifting around over the past few years has made me very eager to see it. It's supposedly a "Heart of Darkness"-type story. Flynn has gone so far into the computer world that he's lost touch with reality. Flynn is basically the villain, and I love that. (Jeff Bridges mentioned a couple years back that he'd heard about it and was excited to do it without ever seeing the script, based solely on the concept.)

Disney floated a trial balloon a couple years ago with a video game called TRON 2.0, which was very underrated. It had great humor and a neat take on the advancement of computers, the web, and so on in the context of the fantasy computer world. A portion of the game took place inside somebody's PDA, which seemed very restrictive and cramped until you had to go back into one of the old mainframes from 82 to find TRON himself. "This system has six hundred and forty kilobytes of RAM and ten megabytes of storage space, sonny! It's a monster!"

This footage, I have to say, may raise my hopes too high. I love the nods to the original and the conscious changes, like the Light Cycles moving in graceful curves. Computers have changed, drastically, and the computer world would have changed as well.

Posted by: RudeMorgue at January 9, 2009 12:35 PM

Well of course you would know, Vermillion. I never doubted that, actually.

That's a compliment, by the way. You are my Geek Idol.

Posted by: Snath at January 9, 2009 12:43 PM

"and then you gotta do the CHORES to get the MUNNY to get a TICKET to get on the dope-ass Disney Train and get to the fun fucking part of the game.

... bullshit!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b8G8delDlk

Posted by: twig at January 9, 2009 1:11 PM

Dustin - you know how your soul died a little when you found out that many Pajibans actually like I Can Has Cheezburger? Well, not seeing Tron is not quite that bad, but I am disappointed in you. And I suspect that now it's too late for you to truly understand its awesomeness. I saw that baby in the theatres when it came out originally.

Oh, and I am 100% against the sequel. Let them prove me wrong

Posted by: tamatha at January 9, 2009 1:31 PM

twig: I lol'd.

Posted by: Snath at January 9, 2009 1:44 PM

Vivi: Oh will you know? Well this hear Ultima Keyblade says your going down like Donald and Goofy. Over, and over, and over...Why can't you assholes stay alive for like ten minutes?

twig: I just rofled in my pants.

Posted by: Jeremy Feist at January 9, 2009 2:15 PM

Let me just say that any game that allows me to fight Sephiroth is pretty much 100% fantastic. Dissidia can't get here fast enough.

Posted by: Snath at January 9, 2009 2:29 PM

We watched Tron in my 9th grade Computer class (the class was required at my school). The teacher would run out of stuff for us to do, since almost all of us knew just as much, if not more, about computers than she did. We also competed against the 4th level Computer class (my brother was in that one) in the same period in the game "Chip's Challenge". Anyone else play that? We got stuck on something like level 52 (an ice level) before both classes gave up. That game, for all its simplicity, was effin hard. I blame Bill Gates.

Posted by: Nadha at January 9, 2009 3:43 PM

KH2 has a TRON level?! Shit. Maybe I should pick that one up again. I stopped playing at the annoying Under the Sea level.

And this movie will be visually stunning and fucking horrible at the same time. Just like 95% of the summer movies out there.

Posted by: TylerDFC at January 9, 2009 5:33 PM

You'd be surprised to know that many people under the age of 30 know what Tron is because there are still geeks under the age of 30 who care. I'm slightly over 30 so I think I watched maybe half of the movie when I was 5 or 6 and forgot what the point was by the middle of it. I thought the flashy cars were very pretty though, I'm sure.

Posted by: ph at January 9, 2009 7:51 PM

Is it wrong that I had more fun constructing ships and playing the space levels?

Posted by: Snath at January 9, 2009 9:08 PM

Vivi: Oh will you know? Well this hear Ultima Keyblade says your going down like Donald and Goofy. Over, and over, and over...Why can't you assholes stay alive for like ten minutes?

1) Your Donald and Goofy were punk bitches. Mine were hard core military in this bitch.

2) Don't make me break out an Oblivion on a mothafucka.

Is it wrong that I had more fun constructing ships and playing the space levels?

Yes. Go home. NOW.

Posted by: Vermillion at January 9, 2009 9:29 PM

MEOW!

Posted by: admin at January 9, 2009 11:29 PM

"Hedlund apparently beat out Ryan Gosling and Chris Pine for the role"
Putting Ryan Gosling and Chris Pine in the same sentence is just... wrong...

Posted by: Irina at January 12, 2009 12:36 AM


















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