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The big news this week is that Guillermo Del Toro (Pan’s Labyrinth) is officially in negotiations to take over the director’s chair for the two (2) Hobbit films. And no: The second Hobbit film, as previously rumored, is not a sequel; the book itself (that little bitty children’s book that takes about two hours to read in its entirety) will be split into two so that Del Toro can capture all of the novel’s, er, complexities. I don’t have anything against The Hobbit (in fact, of the four novels, The Hobbit was the only one I enjoyed), but I don’t see any reason to split it into two but for the profit motive. And while Del Toro has excelled with Spanish language films, with apologies to Hellboy fans, his American films (Blade II, Mimic) aren’t exactly masterpieces. But, he’s a geek, and the other rumored choice (Sam Raimi) would not have satisfied Harry Knowles, who might have sicced his legions of Doritos-breathing followers on producer Peter Jackson if the out-of-favor Raimi had been chosen. And after Spiderman 3, it’s hard to blame him. No word on casting yet, but I’m gonna throw my lot behind Peter Dinklage as Bilbo (assuming they don’t go with Ian Holm again) cause Dinklage rocks.

Elsewhere, veteran television director, Darnell Martin, will write and direct Cadillac Records, a movie about the rise and fall of Leonard Chess, who founded Chess Records, the label responsible for launching the careers of Etta James, Muddy Waters, and Chuck Berry. The cast is falling into place now, and it’s a mixed bag: Adrian Brody has replaced Matt Dillon (scheduling conflicts) in the role of Leonard Chess; Cedric the Entertainer will play Chuck Barry; Jeffrey Wright (!) takes the role of Muddy Waters; and (freakin’) Beyonce will play Etta James, which is an odd choice considering the difference in both body shape and talent level. But, that’s Hollywood. I mentioned this casting decision to Mrs. Pajiba-hyphenate and, seemingly, apropos of nothing, she reminded me that Lauren Ambrose will be appearing soon in a sitcom with Parker Posey on Fox. Huh? The half-second thought process: Etta James -> Nina Simone -> “Feeling Good” -> “Six Feet Under” -> Lauren Ambrose -> bad sitcom.

God bless the human mind.

Mini diversion. Hypothetical: Hollywood wants to make a film about the 2008 Presidential election. You’re the casting director. Go.

A few years ago, when I first read the logline for Juno (“a coming-of-age story about an offbeat girl who makes a bizarre decision about her unborn child”), I thought: Well, that’s original, huh? It’s funny how little a logline could really tell you about a film, which is why I’m not concerned that the logline for Sam Mendes’ (American Beauty) next (untitled) film seems so lackluster: The movie “follows a couple, pregnant with their first child, as they travel America looking for the ideal place to settle down.” And while the logline isn’t in the least compelling, the screenwriters’ names are: Dave Eggers and his (stunning and talented) wife, Vendela Vida. The movie is even labeled as an American comedy, which is odd, because I was under the impression that Eggers’ had had his sense of humor surgically removed after the success of A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius. Unfortunately, the rumored casting isn’t exactly ideal: John Krasinski (who I’m still iffy on after License to Wed, “The Office” notwithstanding) and Maya Rudolph, which is a fucking head scratcher. Whatever: Sam Mendes, y’all.

I’m not keen on mentioning Heath Ledger, because I’m beginning to sense that the mood about his death in the mainstream press and the blogosphere is (sadly) starting to turn from reverential to slightly exploitative (with shades of Anna Nicole) and it makes me a little ill, but I should mention that the film he was in the middle of shooting, The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, is expected to go on, so says the director Terry Gilliam (who seriously has some kind of bad mojo). Apparently, the movie — about a Faustian bargain between Dr. Parnassus (Christopher Plummer) and the Devil (Tom Waits), in which Ledger played the magical interloper — is so odd and fanciful that it’s conceivable that the same role can be played by two different people (sounds positively Lynchian), and some are speculating the Johnny Depp will take over the part. Gilliam says he’ll dedicate the film to Ledger. And that’s all I’m going to say about that.

In casting news, Aaron Eckhart will play a widowed self-help author who rediscovers love and happiness after meeting a florist, who will be played by Jennifer Aniston. Martin Sheen will play Eckart’s father-in-law, while Dan Fogler will likely be cast in the role of human cum stain. Judy Greer, it goes without saying, will play the best friend. The movie, Traveling, sounds like another unfortunate sell-out role for Eckhart, so soon after the painfully bland No Reservations.

Out on DVD this week, a couple of gems: Rocket Science and The King of Kong: Fistful of Quarters. There’s also The Nines, Right at your Door and if you’re feeling abusive, Daddy Day Camp.

Finally, in the trailer watch, The Other Boleyn Girl features Scarlett Johansson (blah), Natalie Portman (!) and Eric Bana (!), and despite the cast and the solid source material, I’m still not feeling it. It’s hard to get too worked up about it when you know how it’s gonna end.


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Cedric the Entertainer as Chuck Berry?

Beyonce "why -isn't-my-fifteen-minutes-up-yet" as Etta James?

The fuck?!

The only thing I can possible think that might come good out of this is... who the fuck am I kidding? BEYONCE?!

However, Tom Waits as the devil? Friggin' brilliant!

BEYONCE?!!

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at January 29, 2008 12:56 PM

Erica Bana?

Just joshing with you...I know who you meant. Ok, so all the Phillipa Gregory novels are a guilty pleasure of mine. This is the first one of hers I read and I am super psyched for this movie, even though, yes, we all know how it's going to end.

Posted by: Helcat at January 29, 2008 1:02 PM

Yay, with Cloverfield out of the way it's time to cringe and poke warily at the new sci-fi/fantasy releases. Jumper and Hellboy II will hopefully not suck.

The Hobbit doesn't need to be two movies. And DelToro isn't bad (Blade II was not actually a bad movie) but I would love to see Raimi do a fantasy movie. Then again, they probably won't greenlight a fantasy movie that doesn't look like 'Pan's Labryinth' for the next decade or so.

Also, Gilliam has my eternal devotion for '12 Monkeys' but 'Brothers Grimm' was so bad. So very bad. So, like I said, cringe and be wary.

Posted by: twig at January 29, 2008 1:03 PM

That should be Chuck Berry, not Chuck Barry, Berry's less successful country singing brother.

Posted by: ScarletKnight at January 29, 2008 1:04 PM

Oh God! Another one of those "historical romance" films that a certain kind of woman will lap up and then think she knows English history. I just can't take it anymore.
Question: how come all these Madame Alexander doll-collecting royalty lovers adore Anne Bolelyn and hate Camilla Parker Bowles: didn't they both do the same thing?

Posted by: PaddyDog at January 29, 2008 1:04 PM

Huckabee played by Kevin Spacey, Hilary played by Jodie Foster(is there a more appropriate actress?), John Mccain played the late Jack Palance, Rudy played by Jason Robards, Barak played by Will Smith, John Edwards played by Sam Neil, and Mitt Romney played by Warren Beatty. I think I got em all.

Posted by: Pete at January 29, 2008 1:04 PM

Dave Eggers is writing a movie? And Sam Mendes is directing? Wow. Sweet!

The casting does sound bizarre though. Why all the TV people?

Posted by: Farfalina at January 29, 2008 1:17 PM

Pete, I like the list, though I'd switch Will Smith for Don Cheadle to play Barak. And an empty dog biscuit box will play George Bush.

I'm actually very excited about the Del Toro Hobbit - I think the guy has some serious talent. Pans Labyrinth and Devil's Backbone are beautiful, Hellboy is deliciously fun, Blade II was intentionally nothing more than an exercise in hyper-action, and Mimic - he gets a pass for using Charles Dutton, who is criminally under-used, and for having some inventive f/x.

Posted by: Whiskeybabyninjastar! at January 29, 2008 1:17 PM

Cadillac Records, however, looks like a complete shit show.

Posted by: Whiskeybabyninjastar! at January 29, 2008 1:18 PM

The Hobbit as two movies? Meh. The only thing they need to get right is the dragon. I mean, voice-wise he has to be spot on for me. Maybe Sean Connery-like without the smugness? I don't remember that other dragon movie he provided the voice for, but that's my overall impression of his work.

Yeah, Skittimus, I have to second, third AND fourth the whole BEYONCE disbelief. It's not like the actress would have to actually sing for the part...

Hollywood movie about Election 2008? Why, let's have Sam Jack as Obama, of course! No-one would believe Morgan Freeman as a Muslim - remember Robin Hood? Um, and Diane Lane as Hillary - she has that whole "talking makes my face hurt" look down pat.

Posted by: malikvlc at January 29, 2008 1:22 PM

Just a small qualifier: I would never direct this movie, but I know how Hollywood would cast it. So here I go...again?

How about John Travolta as Mitt Romney. Since he is a Mormon why not have a crazy ass Scientologist play him and completely demonize what is already a misunderstood religion. Or Tom Cruise could do it. Barack Obama would be played by Cedric the Entertainer or Eddie Murphy. He decides to cater to the BBW crowd and ends up in a fat suit. Jack Black plays John Edwards and cavorts for most of the film in a tutu whilst quoting Led Zeppelin lyrics. I think I'll stop there, cause God forbid, a Hollywood suit is getting rather aroused as I type this.

Posted by: ScarletKnight at January 29, 2008 1:22 PM

They can't seriously have Beyonce play Etta James? I mean, really. However, I'll watch Jeffrey Wright do anything-
I read The Other Boleyn Girl, and enjoy Gregory's novels. She wrote Anne as a selfish skank, so it'll be interesting to see how much sticks. Oh, what am I saying...

Posted by: demondoll at January 29, 2008 1:23 PM

Who's Chuck Barry? Did you mean Chuck Berry?

And Erica Bana in tights. Who knew? Well, the costumes might be worth a look.

Posted by: BWeaves at January 29, 2008 1:25 PM

"Mini diversion. Hypothetical: Hollywood wants to make a film about the 2008 Presidential election. You're the casting director. Go."

Giuliani = Brian Cox
Edwards = Dennis Quaid
Hillary Clinton = Emma Thompson (a cop-out seeing as she played a character based on her in Primary Colors)
Obama = Idris Elba
Romney = Aaron Eckhart (yeah I know they're both Mormons)
McCain = Robert Duvall

I don't really know about the others, Huckabee comes up empty when thinking of a guy that looks like him. Same with Ron Paul.

Posted by: vadmspartan at January 29, 2008 1:29 PM

"I'll stop there, cause God forbid, a Hollywood suit is getting rather aroused as I type this and reaching for his phone with his free hand."

I hate when I don't complete my own thoughts...

Posted by: ScarletKnight at January 29, 2008 1:30 PM

What's funny is just this morning when checking the "ticker" on CNN, I thought that Hollywood might make a movie about 2008 and then immediately thought, naw they're not THAT lame.

I should learn.

I like the casting choices above but Laura Linney would be my choice for Hillary and I agree with Cheadle or even Ejiafor for Obama (but of course, Denzel would get it). Peter Greenwood (I think is his name) as Romney. Mickey Rooney as John McCain. Fred Thompson as Rudy Giuliani. Huckabee could be played by Foghorn Leghorn and I nominate Elijah Wood as Dennis Kucinich.

Posted by: Siddhartha at January 29, 2008 1:38 PM

Hillary - Meryl Streep. Did no one see Manchurian Candidate, the remake?

Bush - Will Ferrel.

Etta James deserves so much better than frickin' Beyonce.

I read somewhere that Crash is being made into a miniseries or an actual series? Anyone else see this?

I am barred from ever mentioning that movie on the site again, Melody, but that doesn't stop me from kvetching about it elsewhere -- DR.

Posted by: Melody at January 29, 2008 1:38 PM

John Edwards: The guy who plays Kenneth on 30 Rock
Barack Obama: Rob Lowe in black face (I'd want a more ethnic actor but Rob Lowe did a deal with the devil to secure every role that portrays a trendy eager politico)
Hillary Clinton: John Travolta in drag
Rudy Giuliani: The Crypt Keeper
Mike Huckabee: Alec Baldwin because he is so good at mining the humor in right wing types
Mitt Romney: Fabio
John McCain: Judi Dench(what? aren't you sick of people telling you how versatile she is?)
Dennis Kucinich: ALF from the 80s sitcom
And of course,
Ted Kennedy (in the scene where he endorses Obama): Martin Sheen (you just don't make a movie featuring Kennedys without him)

Posted by: PaddyDog at January 29, 2008 1:39 PM

Bored. Here goes...

Giuliani = Crispin Glover Slathered in Latex
Edwards = Lube Coated "Fist of Addonis"
Clinton = Kick-Start Vibrator With Attitude
Obama = Chain-Smoking Albino
Romney = Damp Stack of Kiddie Porn
McCain = Drunk Six-Year Old With a Lazy Eye

That's pretty good, right?

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at January 29, 2008 1:46 PM

Apparently, the 2 Hobbit movies won't split the book up. Movie 1 would be an adaptation of The Hobbit. Movie 2 would be a brand-new piece bridging the years from The Hobbit to Lord of the Rings.

Is it necessary? Probably not. Will it make money? Like a drug dealer in Hollywood. Oh and just go and get Martin Freeman (Arthur in Hitchhiker's Guide) to play Bilbo.

Now as for the casting:
Reps
Rudy Giuliani - Billy Bob Thornton
Mike Huckabee - Kevin Spacey
John McCain - Donald Sutherland
Mitt Romney - JK Simmons
Fred Thompson - Fred Thompson (typecast)

Dems
Hillary Clinton - Helen Mirren
John Edwards - Robert Downey Jr.
Barrack Obama - Lance Reddick (Daniels from the Wire)

Posted by: BFFredo at January 29, 2008 1:46 PM

Movie 2 would be a brand-new piece bridging the years from The Hobbit to Lord of the Rings.

o god no stop. stop he's dead let him rest there are a thousand other shinier fandoms to plunder. Let it go, Indiana.

Posted by: twig at January 29, 2008 1:53 PM

Beyonce as Etta James? Really? Talk about desperate.
I can take it or leave it regarding The Other Boleyn Girl. I like all three leads, but Natalie Portman's accent is awful. And like Dustin mentioned, the ending is obvious.

Posted by: Brie at January 29, 2008 1:57 PM

Whiskeybabyninjastar!, didn't I see you on a season of the Real World? I thought you looked familiar.

I don't think it matters if The Other Boleyn Girl is a good movie or not, because the crappy trailer will pretty much guarantee total floppage.

Posted by: Kolby at January 29, 2008 2:00 PM

Gregory Itzin (President Logan in "24") as Huckabee. The resemblance is kind of creepy. Kind of really creepy.

Posted by: Abe Froman at January 29, 2008 2:06 PM

I too count Phillipa Gregory novels among my guilty pleasures.... and while Natalie Portman was an excellent choice I have my doubts as to Scarlett Johanssen.

Aaron Eckhardt is a Mormon?!! Done and done.

Posted by: Finn at January 29, 2008 2:21 PM

Follow up thought:

Natalie Potman, love her or hate her -- I don't think anyone can really deny her talent. She may have fallen into the indie wank-fest trap every once in a while (I am looking at you Garden State) and blockbuster crap-fests (Star Wars) but all one needs to do is watch the scene in The Professional where she is standing outside Jean Reno's door and see her for the force that she is.

Posted by: Finn at January 29, 2008 2:27 PM

Pajiba 2008 Killing Spree t-shirt update! i am settling in to a design that I really like. i should likely finish it this evening and then get around to making the screen sometime between now and the weekend.

I'd be nervous walking around with that one in these delicate times, PB, but if anyone ever presses an "OMG Nom Nom Nom" or "Whiskeybabyninjastar!" tee, I'm so in. --RR

Posted by: PissBoy at January 29, 2008 2:32 PM

Abe: Gregory Itzin as Huckabee is pretty genius, they do look a LOT alike.

For me...

Clinton: Joan Allen
Obama: Mos Def
McCain: The late and beloved John Spencer
Guiliani: Armin Shimermann
Huckabee: A rabid possum

Posted by: Julie at January 29, 2008 2:33 PM

Hillary Clinton - Meryl Streep
Barack Obama - Will Smith
John Edwards - Tom Cruise (I dunno...I get that creepy smiley vibe off Edwards for some reason)
John McCain - Clint Eastwood
Mitt Romney - John Travolta (again...creepiness works for me here)
Mike Huckabee - John Goodman

Posted by: s. pisaster at January 29, 2008 2:34 PM

Err..."solid source material"? Philippa Gregory? Seriously? I have a mile-wide soft spot for historical romances and that book still left me with a "blech" taste in my mouth. It's incredibly soapy, and it kind of made me cringe on both the historical-accuracy and literary-quality levels.

However, the character of Mary Boleyn was boring as hell, so it shouldn't tax ScarJo's (negligble) acting skills too heavily, and as a previous poster mentionned, Anne is a (much more compelling) "selfish skank" in the book, so it might be interesting to see the normally-cutesy Portman tackle it. Meh. I'll probably see it for the costumes. I'm much more excited about "The Duchess," though.

Posted by: MissMaddie at January 29, 2008 2:42 PM

Pajiba 2008 Scathing Spree? K*lling Spree? Could also do Pajiba 2008 Bus Tour. I kinda like that one or Bus(ted) tour. ANyone???? Suggestions?

Posted by: PissBoy at January 29, 2008 2:52 PM

Yay, Pissboy! Where should I send the money?

Posted by: Kolby at January 29, 2008 2:52 PM

The money thing is gonna be up in the air. I think I'll just charge a minimal amount to cover cost of the shirt, shipping, and minor production costs...likely rounded up and then total issued to a charity. Dun wanna profit from a name and image not mine own ya know.

Posted by: PissBoy at January 29, 2008 2:56 PM

Pajiba 2008 Shitlist Scavenger Hunt

How's that? Not as blunt as "killing spree" but "hunt" gets the point across.

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at January 29, 2008 3:01 PM

I'm pretty partial to the Bus(ted) Tour one. That sums us up pretty nicely.

And I agree that "OMG Nom Nom Nom" and "whiskeybabynijastar" deserve their own shirts. I'm sure there have been other tasty bon mots tossed about these parts worthy of slapping on a shirt.

Look out Glarkware and threadless.

Posted by: Alabamapink at January 29, 2008 3:04 PM

And dammit, I know how to spell "ninja".

Typing with band-aids all over my hand is tricky.

Posted by: Alabamapink at January 29, 2008 3:06 PM

I can not wait to see these t-shirts.

Rainbow Killing Spree? :p

Posted by: Julie at January 29, 2008 3:07 PM

The Tudors,

Again. *** HUGE, HUGE RANT ALERT!!!!***

I love, love, love and adore British history, and briefly flirted with the idea of doing my Masters in it (before choosing something else), but COME ON! Is this all that you nose-pokers can think of?

I won't even broach the topic of doing a study (an honest-to-God study is due, the real events are no less compelling than the clap-trap these films invent)of a non-British topic, (Ottoman, Russia, Capetians, Merovingians, Byzantine, Carolinians, Bourbons, Moors, Ostrogoths, fuck! ANYTHING!) since this apparently isn't allowed. But Sweet Crockpot Abraham, this Tudor obsession is crossing over into the pathological! He got married, he got divorced. Live with it.

The Tudors have fast become the Three Tenors of the aughts. Even though I'm negating my whole point about being sick of them, I still think that if the powers that be are going to keep foisting them on us, can we look at a subject that doesn't concern Henry's cum-dumping escapades? What about Edward the VI's reign? Very fraught, lots of family drama, very overlooked.

I'm loathe to suggest Mary Tudor,

A: because filmmakers as a rule decided that the public is too stupid to be able to distinguish between more than one person of the same first name, so she'd probably end up as some muddled pastiche of several historical figures,

B: Hollywood has no problem showing people get burned to death in meticulous, fetishistic detail. And being Empress of The Wussy Wet Blankets, I'd never watch it. You can't get around that part of her reign, but the entertainment industry is having a real problem with distinguishing between feathers and chickens, so Booke of the Martyrs it would be. Still, two phantom pregnancies, come on!

Non-western rulers or time periods...ah. More difficulties, I know. But I think the biggest one is that no one seems to care about making that series or film.

At any rate, I think a lot of us are done with the Henry-Anne-Elizabeth fixation that's so prevalent. How about a series called The Angevins? That was come CRAZY shit! Or if you're still jonsing for Henry, for goodness' sakes, do Margaret Pole. That story's got 'tragicomedy' written all over it. Speaking of which, Beckett would've known what to do with that. He always knew what to do.

I know this way too long and self-righteous, and yes, I read about things because it's no one's responsibility to put it in front of my eyes. And seeing as how it would almost surely be botched, it's probably a blessing in disguise. But this seems to me that this sort of thing is part of the problem of the way history (generally speaking) is taught/presented. It always focuses on the same events and people from the same viewpoint. Given, a lot of stuff bears repeating, also, you're not going to find any serf-written documentation of the travails of daily life. AND Henry's reign is proof-positive of the fact that a lot of history is shaped by the whims of the powerful, but geez!

I don't even know what to think. If they do the Hanoverian era, it'll all be porphyria and Revolutionary War (don't scream at me American patriots, it's not a slight against your war, but you know what I mean.) But what about George IV's disastrous marriage to Caroline of Brunswick, (they only slept together three times) or his general ineptitude/peckerheaded-ness? Dude had over six hundred thousand pounds of gambling debt that was paid off for him at coronation--in 1820! How did he show his appreciation? By spending almost a million pounds on his coronation (not pictured: Mrs. George IV). He also slept with over 7 000 women. Discuss. George I/Handel's old boss had his wife locked up for decades, preventing her from seeing her children--because he was mad at her.

Do you know what kind of nut-cluster-fucking goodness could come out of Edward II's reign? The poker thing almost certainly didn't happen, but still! Dude brought his new wife home from their wedding only to have his gay lover greet them, decked out in the jewels that her father gave her a wedding present. Juicy! And still you continuously trudge on with another re-hash of the one where two sisters feud over some gut's diseased old wang?

Nothing about Victoria-Albert though. She was, and is the only person that gave two damp shits when he kicked off, oh and blaming your son for his father's death? Classy.

You know, it's all a moot point because I don't have a tv, and after moving to Toronto, I've found myself hemmorhaeging so much money, that I really can't afford to skip off to the cinema to scowl with a misguided sense of self-importance about something that isn't very important at all.

Sorry for that, but sometimes Hollywood just twists my dreads. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before Jessica Alba IS Mary Tudor. Because she's 100 per cent white, right? Because that's the best thing ever! And everytime she loses her shit at someone who suggests otherwise, it makes her look a lot less like a self-loathing, misinformed bag of guano. Whatever.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama" Besser at January 29, 2008 3:11 PM

Band-aids pink? Are you a cutter?

So far we have:
Pajiba 2008 Bus Tour
Pajiba 2008 Bus(ted) Tour
Pajiba 2008 Shitlist Hunt
Pajiba 2008 Shitlist Scavenger Hunt

as options to replace 'Killing Spree' since the whole Killing thing might cause trouble.

What about 'Pajiba 2008 Hollywood Hunt' or 'Hollywood Spree' anything?

Posted by: PissBoy at January 29, 2008 3:15 PM

Alright, my last suggestion:

Pajiba 2008 Hollywood (S)Hit List

I think it's a doozy...

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at January 29, 2008 3:21 PM

My favorite so far is Bus(ted) Tour.

Posted by: Julie at January 29, 2008 3:23 PM

Meh, Sam Raimi's overrated ass wasn't right for ANYTHING 'Ring related anyway.

As for Hobbit, I refuse to watch it until the 5th SuperDuperMegaUltimate Director's Double Extended Special Edition.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 29, 2008 3:32 PM

John Edwards: The guy who plays Kenneth on 30 Rock
Mitt Romney - JK Simmons

I love these, but only if Simmons wears the eye-patch from OZ

Rocket Science shipped from Netflix today. Looking forward

Ohh, Beyonce as Eta James? Wouldn't the American Idol girl who was in Dreamgirls make more sense? Or Eddie Murphy in drag again?

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2008 3:45 PM

I don't have a problem with killing spree, although I am partial to Vermillion's suggestion of "Pajiba Media Murderfest '08."

If we had to change I like Pajiba Bus(ted) Tour '08!

Posted by: Kolby at January 29, 2008 3:53 PM

"I don't think it matters if The Other Boleyn Girl is a good movie or not, because the crappy trailer will pretty much guarantee total floppage."
Posted by: Kolby

I'm not so sure. The fans of the Gregory's books will certainly go, and I have a feeling that there's a vast pool of post adolescent males that will go just to drool over ScarJo and NatPo in low cut period dresses. Just look for the guys ordering extra buttery popcorn.

Posted by: Dave at January 29, 2008 3:58 PM

Throw in my vote for Bus(ted)Tour

Nine different levels of awesomeness. And yeah, I'd so be in for an OMG! Nom Nom Nom tee as well as a Whiskeybabyninjastar! one, it would be so much fun to confuse hipsters by convincing them that there's a pretentious and possibly ironic band they haven't heard of. Oh the delicious fun I could have!

Posted by: Alex the Odd at January 29, 2008 3:59 PM

oooo....Vermillion might have done it. I completely forgot about that one. Thanks Kolb. I'll do a couple designs and then post a weblink to the images here tomorrow or Thursday and then people can tell me. Popular vote wins.

Posted by: PissBoy at January 29, 2008 4:01 PM

Jo "Mama' Besser: I hear you, but how about ignoring all the inbred, gout-ridden, illegitimate "rulers" of Europe and elsewhere and give us some coverage of the brave folk who recognized that they had a right as people to not have to bow down before anyone and started revolutions against these wankers? I'm not suggesting France 1789 (although I can watch guillotine scenes with manic zealot women knitting all day long). Guy Fawkes? Garibaldi? Robert Emmett? Anyone? Despite his eventual slide into turd-dom, Mel Gibson did one of the few really enjoyable historical-ish films that actually showed how menacing and oppressive these people were and yet all we're ever shown is the House of Tudor playing merry madrigals and hopping in and out of bed with each other.

Posted by: PaddyDog at January 29, 2008 4:01 PM

I wouldn't call The Other Boleyn Girl "solid" source material so much as "cheesy, soft-core porny". So if the movie at least can do that much, it should be fun.

Posted by: Claire at January 29, 2008 4:02 PM

How about Pajiba Killooza and Oddities Cavalcade '08?

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 29, 2008 4:04 PM

Pajiba 2008 Bus(ted) Tour

I second the nomination (eventhough I lose royalties if we don't use the Spree one). I do think we need to work WHISKEYBABYNINJASTAR into it. How about:

The WHISKEYBABYNINJASTAR & Pajiba 2008 Bus(ted) Tour

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2008 4:04 PM

Or this one...

Pajiba's imagine unicorns dancing on rainbows, while fairies riding kittens sing songs about sunshine and candy and then big, pink fluffy clouds come in and start raining gumdrops and lemonade and we all dance around with umbrellas made out of fruit roll-ups and Santa comes roller-skating down a candy cane road with a big bag of soft and cuddly toys and we go down to the hot chocolate river and take turns jumping on a trampoline and the higher we jump the more the fuzzy stars tickle our noses and tell us that we're truly special. Then a hundred musical hot-air balloons come floating down from the disco ball sky, each carrying a chick who digs other chicks, but not in a real life chick who digs other chicks way, more like in a movie way. An adult movie way. And then Queensryche shows up and rocks out on a giant stage fulla pythons and tigers and wicked-ass stuff like that and explosions rain fire down on all unfortunate enough to be within earshot of the rockin' tunage and elephants (no, wait - wooly mammoths!) wrapped in barbed wire with flaming tusks shoot poisoned arrows out of their snouts and then Some wicked black-metal band or Gwar just start rocking out but in like a really fast way that makes everyone's head explode except for mine. And the ladies who like other ladies. Then the rockin' begins... Tour 2008?

I likes it.

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at January 29, 2008 4:08 PM

I'd buy a whiskeybabyninjastar! shirt in less than a heartbeat. Just sayin'. Or at the least a bumper sticker.

Posted by: Whiskeybabyninjastar! at January 29, 2008 4:12 PM

If we are asking for some non-House of Tudor period dramas (which the Elizabeth stuff is the ending of, right?) how about something from the Crusades - not Robin Hood, but a HBO series following the 4th crusdae and the sack of Constantinople (actually reading about it now).

If you want Revolutionary War era, HBO has a John Adams miniseries that should be starting soon - I know, US not Europe.

Skittimus Can we swap Slayer for Gwar? And we'll need a Stonehenge replica as well?

Posted by: Brian at January 29, 2008 4:21 PM

Ah Queensryche that's a name I haven't heard in a loooong time, since before the dark times, before the Emp....err *cough* *cough* Ah, in a long time.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 29, 2008 4:21 PM

B-Slim... ok, I'm gonna sound like a complete loser here, but was that a reference to the actual Queensryche album "Empire", or a Star Wars reference?

Fuck, I'm such a dork.

Whatever, Operation: Mindcrime fucking rocked.

Posted by: TK at January 29, 2008 4:29 PM

It was a actually a reference to both :)

Operation:Mindcrime was a total mind fuck . I think I'm gonna go and download that shit right now.

"All alone now, 'cept for the memories..."

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 29, 2008 4:33 PM

Paddydog--back in the day the people hated Anne (the whore) Boleyn as much as they hate Camilla Parker-Bowles. At least Anne (the whore) Boleyn was reportedly beautiful and mysterious. Whereas Camilla Parker-Bowles looks like JoJo The Dogface Boy.

Posted by: wsapnin at January 29, 2008 4:46 PM

Thankfully all that hate for aforementioned whore is all left in the past...right?

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 29, 2008 4:49 PM

I believe the 2008 election movie can only be appropriately told with puppet theater.

Mindcrime! I still have the cassette...not that I'm proud of that or anything, it's just full disclosure.

Posted by: Gib at January 29, 2008 4:49 PM

a) I like the idea of a shirt featuring the word "oddities" as believe it is a reference to myself and I am incredibly vain

b) I would buy the shirt Skittimus Maximus suggested but I fear giving the male population any more reason than usual to stare at my rack for an extended time. Wordy shirts tend to inspire that reaction

c) Whiskeybabyninjastar!

Posted by: Alex the Odd at January 29, 2008 4:50 PM

Alex: that's why I tend to wear my "Please Touch My Monkey" shirt only to bed, donning it in public only invites chaos. And groping.

...

I need to start wearing it more.

Posted by: Julie at January 29, 2008 4:54 PM

Pissboy: Nope, not a cutter. Sunday, I was attacked by my mother-in-law's pet squirrel. True story!

No swapping out for GWAR! They are hometown boys, and I am proud to say that I've been covered in GWAR blood at least once in my life.

wsapnin: JoJo The Dogface Boy is the best descriptor of CPB that I have ever seen.

Okay, now is all this talk of t-shirts going to dissolve into nothingness like the chatterings of PajibaCon a few weeks back? Or will I get to sport some seriously obscure tee to wow all the art school geeks downtown?

Posted by: Alabamapink at January 29, 2008 5:01 PM

For the sake of your sanity please don't go there Julie. I worked the entire Nintendo DS launch week wearing a T-Shirt that said "TOUCH ME" right across the bust. In a room packed with frustrated geeks. My God. I barely got out of ther without a criminal conviction for aggravated assault.

Posted by: Alex the Odd at January 29, 2008 5:01 PM

I would definitely get a tshirt if only for the reasons that Alex posted. Confusing indie kids is one of my favourite past times. I think incorporating Whiskeybabyninjastar! somehow would be for the best as well.

Posted by: IamKateness at January 29, 2008 5:03 PM

Sweet Moses, Gib? Cassette? I've heard of those things...

Actually, I saw the Mindcrime tour (or at least a small sampling of it) when they opened for Metallica on the "And Justice For All..." tour.

Dear Christ, I'm old as the hills. OLD I TELLS YA!

Sorry Alex, wasn't looking to draw unwanted attention to your chest - just wanted to provide something that would prove challenging to the screenprinter. And to rant. Oh yes, I love to rant.

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at January 29, 2008 5:06 PM

The more I learn about history the more painful it becomes when "historical fiction" based on actual true events kills the truth. Movies make things seem so real, so when they are mixed with a tiny bit of fact, and a lot of bullshit, they seem more real than actual history. But they are NOT history! Grrrrrrrrrr

Posted by: Haystacks at January 29, 2008 5:07 PM

Oh ALEX. That's even more misguided than me wearing my t-shirt out to a bar in Manayunk, an area of Philly I used to live that may as well be named Obnoxiousfratboysreallylovecheapbeerandtheirstripedbuttondownshirts,don'tthey Land.

Posted by: Julie at January 29, 2008 5:11 PM

Believe me I had no choice in the matter Julie. A launch required promo clothing to be worn, they had to pry the punisher shirt from my desperately clasping hands but it was to no avail: the touch screen function had to be highlighted through the means of printed cotton.

Stupid innovative technology.

I had looooong before learnt the perils of wearing anything even remotely enticing to work after one particular customer sidled up to me and invited me to a LAN party. Only this wasn't an ordinary LAN party, oh no. It was themed.

The theme? Was hentai.

Yeah.

Posted by: Alex the Odd at January 29, 2008 5:20 PM

Wow, that made me puke a little bit.

Actually, it was more of a puke-burp, followed by a slow esophagus burn.

Hentai, huh? Nice.

Wow, I did it again....

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at January 29, 2008 5:28 PM

I almost hate to ask...what is hentai? I'm assuming something cornea-scarring horrific, otherwise I would Google it at work.

Posted by: Julie at January 29, 2008 5:31 PM

Hentai LAN Party you say? Hmmmmm

Hey I think I know tha....err Uh.. that was...gross, people are fuuuuuucked, up.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 29, 2008 5:31 PM

Julie - I use to live in a suburb of that town, called Smalltowndouchesonthehuntforhookingupmakemeappearasiamonewiththemdespitethelackofabercrombieandhattiltagesoimightaswellgohomealoneandflipthroughbasiccableuntilifindsomethingrelativelyarrousingformyhandtofallasleeptoasiattemptofondlemyselftosleep. Good times...

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at January 29, 2008 5:33 PM

hentai? i had never heard of that until now either julie, so i just googled it. please excuse me while i try to erase those visuals from my memory and hope that i don't get fired for looking that up at work. gee thanks alex.

Posted by: legib at January 29, 2008 5:46 PM

Dems:
Hillary Clinton: Joan Allen
John Edwards: Jason Bateman
Mike Gravel: the old man muppet who sits to the left in the balcony on the MuppetShow
Dennis Kucinish: the Chucky doll
Barack Obama: Harry J. Lennix
Bill Richardson: Oliver Platt
I worked long and hard on this one. I humbly submit that this casting suggestion is damn near flawless.

GOP:
Rudy Giuliani: Robert Duvall
Mike Huckabee: Michael Madsen
John McCaine: an older Ed Harris
Ron Paul: John Mahoney
Mitt Romney: a younger James Brolin / Alec Baldwin
Fred Thompson: Kelsey Grammer

Posted by: Gabrielle at January 29, 2008 6:04 PM

Man, I hadn't really been thinking much at all about The Other Boleyn Girl, what with Scarjo and all, but damn it if that historical melodrama doesn't look like fun. Plus, Natalie is always awesome.

Posted by: Rahel at January 29, 2008 6:15 PM

that's funny about the lauren ambrose/parker posey thing. my immediate thought was jeffrey wright -> basquiat -> parker posey -> weird news about sitcom with lauren ambrose.

Posted by: kb at January 29, 2008 6:23 PM

Want a shirt! Like Bus(ted) idea.

Beyonce - YUK. Really? Who thought of this brilliant idea?

Phillipa Gregory pisses me off. I don't know why she feels the need to dress that shit up in historical clothing. Her stuff is just your run-of-the-mill trashy romance crap with a dab of history included so people don't feel so embarassed reading it in public.

Posted by: tt_marie at January 29, 2008 6:47 PM

Ah, Manayunk. Julie, I used to live in Roxborough (Mrs. TK's fam still lives there), and whoo boy. Talk about meathead central. Manayunk on a Friday night was like a shitty cologne convention.

CJ & Ecks was the only bar for me even close to that neighborhood, and even then it was only on weekdays.

WHISKEYBABYNINJASTAR!

Posted by: TK at January 29, 2008 7:03 PM

Pink - the Pajiba Convention is alive and well in my brain. I'm just waiting for Dustin to tell us where & when.

I really can't wait to see what these shirts look like. We should rent a kickass van for our murder spree, one with a naked lady airbrushed on the side and a giant eagle on the hood. Bitchin'.

Posted by: Kolby at January 29, 2008 7:07 PM

Regarding the two Hobbit movies:

A. Thank goodness Raimi's out & Del Toro's in!

B. Jackson said a long time ago that movie one will be the book, movie two will be mostly new material that covers the 60 or so years that separate the events between the Hobbit & LoTR.

You mentioned the difference in body types as applies to Beyucky & Etta James, did it not occur to you that Cedrick the Entertainer is a portly oaf?

Posted by: seth at January 29, 2008 7:12 PM

We should rent a kickass van for our murder spree, one with a naked lady airbrushed on the side and a giant eagle on the hood. Bitchin'.

Th line to drive said van forms up behind Slim. I'm also in charge of all customization. The van will be a 1978 Dodge Tradesman with special factory "Street Van" package, it will be black, with multiple psychedelic paint themes, and maybe, a flying unicorn crossing a rainbow.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 29, 2008 7:23 PM

I wasn't reading too carefully, but I didn't see anyone recommend Queen Latifah to play Etta James. Am I a casting genius, or am I missing some key detail that would disqualify her? And also, Gabrielle, Jason Bateman would make a terrible John Edwards; that role is made for Tom Cruise or some other substance-less pretty boy that always has that creepy/idiotic grin bolted onto his face.
Not that Edwards is himself substanceless, but he tries very hard to look it. And that accent! Makes me crazy, in a bad way.
Scratch Cruise, then; has he ever even attempted an accent?
Bateman would, however, be a good choice to play a behind-the-scenes-fixer-type character whose central trait is cynicism.

Posted by: Pen Dragon at January 29, 2008 7:57 PM

I'm with you Slim, I'm feeling the vision. Just one suggestion - can we replace the unicorn with the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

Posted by: general rhubarb at January 29, 2008 8:07 PM

To those who suggested other historical drama ideas, I'd watch any of those. The mention of the Crusdades made me think of Saladin--which would be awesome.

I think looking at the aftermath of the Black Plague would be very interesting. You've got the decline of feudalism, the Worker's Revolt, the Hundred Years War, it's yours to explore. But the thing that find with a lot of these dramas, and I guess bio-pics too, is that they try to cover waaaaay too much, and nothing gets its due. So all of the output just becomes an exercise in glossing over.

Someone also mentioned no Robin Hood, which FULLY gets my support. Since he would have fallen into the time of the Angevins, I honestly think that a faithful study of the actual events of that period is more interesting. I don't want to give off the impression that I hate fiction, because that's 30 miles away from the truth. I have an English Lit degree that's stuffed in a suitcase at my mother's house to prove it. I really adore Shakespeare's histories, but please do not take them as historical, because...ahhh, yeah. You have to do what you have to do to make a good story, whilst not getting your head surgically removed from your body for the act. So I guess maybe it is just a matter of execution.

To wit, we got The Tudors in October-December in Canada. I had no interest in watching it, but I caught a really nasty flu, and since the amount of streaming video for non-Americans is much, much more limited, I watched it off of the CBC site. I watched it over a weekend, and it still dragged on. Bad acting and chest thumping aside, I think it was Monsieur Whore who said that it was too wrapped up in being 'Henry: Portrait of a Dishy Sport-Fucker'. Also, that series was a joint Canadian-Irish production. Why did the States get it six months before we did?

Anyway, the Crusades--any of the first four in my opinion, would be great watching. If for no other reason than because there are so many misconceptions about that time. They blew my mind when I learned that they were in fact, fallacious. I remember when I first learned about the 'real' Richard I, and being shocked that he was such a far cry from the legend of Lioncoeur. He was a brilliant military man, and that's something that seems to raise a ruler in the public's esteem (as far as posterity goes).

But he was also:
-A bad king
-A bad father
-A bad husband
-A bad son

John Lackland gets a lot of (deserved) flack, that there is an example of the apple that didn't rot far from the tree. Inbred maniacs, but ferociously compelling history.

I know that I just keep going on and on, but I can't stop myself. The Normans were also a mess that deserve the film treatment. Henry I had both of his granddaughters' eyes gouged out as a matter of business. Or what about the reign of his older brother (and alleged bum-troubler) William Rufus? William the Conquerer's freaking body exploded all over the brand-spanking new Westminster Abbey at his funeral, why aren't you filming this!?

Okay, can you tell that I'm avoiding homework?

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at January 29, 2008 8:54 PM

Ooh, I need me some Del Toro!
And if Eric Bana just jumped in and sang "Henry the Eighth" by Herman's Hermits, I would respect the movie a bit more.

Posted by: Kamakazi Feminist at January 29, 2008 9:45 PM

I am way late to the game on this one, but whiskeybabyninjastar is brilliant, and I too would buy that t-shirt in a second. I would get no end of teasing from the Mr. ('And you call me a geek!?') if I wore a shirt that said Pajiba somewhere on it, but that one is cool enough that it would probably get a pass. Not saying that I wouldn't get the bus(ted) shirt too, but I probably wouldn't wear it as much.

Posted by: katy at January 29, 2008 10:17 PM

All those 2008 presidential casting responses, and yet not a single person mentioned Bill...

He is chin-deep in the shit of things as well, my friends.

Chin-deep.

Posted by: Some Guy at January 29, 2008 10:44 PM

Heee!!! Sorry for all those I made google the word Hentai at work. If it's any conciliation I'm laughing so hard I can barely type at the horror you must have felt... and your IT departments' reactions to your search history.

Again: Sorry.

(Heh.)

Now we know what the word means (for all those with the foresight not to enter it into a search engine while at work it's anime style porn usually involving girls who look about eleven' large amounts of force/pain, oh and some tentacle fucking) imagine my horror when the huge, sweaty Greek guy we all knew as "Bloodrayne guy" (because every single time he came in he would ask about the sequel to Bloodrayne. Seriously. Sometimes it was twice per day. And in all honesty, he really would have known before we did) suggested it.

I'll give you a minute to let that mental image sink in.

None of you were eating were you?

Posted by: Alex the Odd at January 30, 2008 4:37 AM

I would buy anything that had 'pajiba' 'whiskeybabyninjastar' or 'OMG NOM NOM NOM' on it. Like, in a second.

Jo 'Mama" Besser - I don't like Anne Boleyn either but Elizabeth's cool in my book. They should do one of the Stuarts - everything you need for a good movie.

Posted by: N at January 30, 2008 5:33 AM

Christ almighty, I have to actually work yesterday, and look at everything I miss out on!?!?! I want a tee shirt (Whiskeybabyninjastar!) too. I like the (S)Hit list idea.

Alex, I am absolutely floored. A hentai themed LAN party?? And you had to wear a "Touch Me" tee?? Seriously, that should be illegal. *shudder*

Posted by: pinkcheese at January 30, 2008 10:18 AM

Another misspelled musician name? As the first commenter pointed out, it's Chuck Berry, not Barry.

I just recently saw Hellboy after several years of having no desire to...it was pretty great!

Posted by: vinniedelpino at January 30, 2008 11:29 AM

N,

I agree wholeheartedly that the Stewarts would make a great subject, good idea. Civil wars, two beheaded monarchs, posthumous execution, TWO gunpowder plots, tricksy, tricksy Walsingham, one woman, so many syphillitic bastard husbands, forced abdication, and stabbings as far as the eye can see! I mean, if you consider the fact that Elizabeth Tudor and Mary Stewart/Stuart (I think she changed the spelling to the latter to pay homage to her French upbringing?) never met, it just blows your mind. Plus, you've got to feel something for a woman who was never allowed to see her only after he was only nine months old.

But everything is blowing my mind right now, because I just handed in three huge assignments today, I don't have anything major until after Reading Week, I've got a good start on all of my millions of papers, and I got out of class an hour early today! It's colder than eight bitches on a bitch-boat here today, so we called it a night at 7:30. Sweet maple syrup.

I once read that Elizabeth was the king, and James I/VI was the queen, which I thought was an excellent summary.

Elizabeth I doesn't bother me, it's the second Elizabeth--that dumpy unimaginative housefrau--that grinds my gears. Not for any of the reasons that you would suspect, but because of her attitude towards history/anything in general. Just so cavalier and self-absorbed. In her second Christmas Thingy-From-the-Throne, she assured the people of the Commonwealth (for some reason), that she shared nothing with E.Tudor but the name. Why? Because she believes that Elizabeth was a tyrant, didn't bother to travel, didn't get married, and didn't have children. No, love, she didn't do those things. She had a job.

David Starkey had a hell of a time with her, read about it earlier this month while I was stuck in a deep procrastination fog. I think he did a series on the Windsors, or maybe just her, I don't know. Anyway, apparently she was pissy (and this is Starkey talking, so if HE thinks someone is pissy, I'd run), and inattentive. She ruined the whole thing, because she didn't get her booze on time. Whilst he was touring her through a gallery of portraits, he said that the only time he could get her to pay attention (she's widely known to not know anything about, or give a shit about...anything), was to ask her corn-fed man-cow of a husband if a certain portrait was under her ownership (it was).

Can you imagine what those two must talk about in bed?

Q.E. 'Oh, Philip, aren't we just the most horrendously unattractive people in just about every knowable manner?'

Prince K.Fed. 'Mmmm, rather.'

Q.E. 'And we're cousins too, right?'

Prince K.Fed. 'Mmmm, rather.'

Q.E. 'Isn't that disgusting?'

Prince K.Fed. 'Mmmm, rather.'

Q.E. 'Didn't you have Nazis in your family?'

Prince K.Fed. 'Mmmm, rather.'

Q.E. 'Isn't that disgusting?'

Prince K.Fed. 'Mmmm, rather.'

Q.E. 'But it's better than having any kind of education, personality, skill, use, or occupation, isn't it?'

Prince K.Fed. 'Mmmm, rather.'

Q.E. 'Aren't we a sad old pair, Gin-Biscuits?'

Prince K.Fed. 'Mmmm, rather...But at least we aren't darkies!'

I don't have anything against Elizabeth Rex, N. I suppose some of my hyperbole clouded things up. Acting as she did then today, yes, she'd be a tyrant. But the times were brutal. I think that as far as brutality goes, all the English could say is, 'At least we aren't in France.' It can't be denied that she was a master politician, I fall back on that old chestnut, the Spanish Armada speech, to illustrate my point. And she had a really astonishing talent for getting and sustaining the slavish adoration of her people.

Think of Mary before her. Because of the abuse heaped upon her by Henry and Anne (who would not even let the girl attend her mother's funeral), being disowned, and the whole Edward VI debacle, and the whole Jane Grey debacle, and the unease that people felt with having had some Protestant rulers, she really came in on a wave of glory. And then she pissed it all away on horrendous indiscriminate torchings (children, the elderly, pregnant women, just awful), and phantom pregnancies. Yes, she too was obsessed with having a child, but the only thing her womb produced was the tumor that killed her. So it goes. In less than five years, people were ready to see her go. Elizabeth was on the throne for 45 years, and since 1603, she's been known as 'Good Queen Bess', which for my money is a heck of a lot better than 'The She-Wolf of France', 'L'autriCHIENNE', or 'The German Horse'.

Anne Boleyn is a tricky beast. There's probably a historian out there who has said it, or someone here who might be more knowlegeable on the subject who'd say it better. I think in a way similar to Jane Grey, she was forced by overbearing male relatives into something huge, and was killed for it. And she did see what happened to her sister: nothing. So, logically, she's not going to want to end up in the same situation. I mean, I guess it would have been a tricky line to toe, when you actually end up falling in love with your mark. It's the story that launched a thousand teen comedies. That said, yes, she was also totally a bitch. Incest and treason, not so much. But um, yeah. I wouldn't invite her to my sleepover.

Someone wondered as to why people seem to hold Boleyn in much higher esteem than they do Camilla. Well, there are the obvious shallow reasons, but in a word, I don't know. Anne was very, very brazen about what she was doing, and though a lot of her machinations were based on survival instinct, outside pressures, and political/religious drama, she thought nothing of going out of her way to humiliate Catherine at every turn. There is a school of thought that thinks Catherine of Aragon may not have been the unplucked daisy she claimed to be when she married Henry. I mean, she was married to the first in line for the throne, and she was a teenager. Why WOULDN'T they have slept together?

Oftentimes, people-in-waiting would be around for every imaginable act--heck, Henry had a dude who was specially assigned to take care of his sock soup. And the less said about the Lord of the Royal Privy, the better. And I'm not talking about Blackadder (though I love that show). So you'd wonder why there wasn't any solid evidence. I don't know.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at January 30, 2008 11:38 PM

Jo 'Mama Besser: that was the Best. Post. Ever. (on British Royalty douchebaggery)

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at January 31, 2008 2:31 PM

Thank, B-Slim. I appreciate that. I can get pretty testy if I haven't taken my vitamins.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at February 1, 2008 4:50 PM

Thanks, B-Slim! I can get pretty testy if I haven't taken my vitamins.

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at February 1, 2008 4:51 PM

"I wouldn't call The Other Boleyn Girl "solid" source material so much as "cheesy, soft-core porny". So if the movie at least can do that much, it should be fun."

hahaha, i'm going to come off as a total creepy skeeze here, but damn, you must read pretty tame books. i just read the book a few weeks ago and there aren't really actually even any sex scenes in it. they're pretty glossed-over.

Posted by: Grace at February 2, 2008 12:26 AM

Why did they do this? Why oh why? The ONLY thing that will come of it is the entire 3.5 nations of Great Britain (and probably the rest of the Commonwealth as well, along with some snootier Americans) complaining about the accents of the lead actresses. What was the point???

Posted by: Mac at February 5, 2008 3:51 PM