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The Looming Hollywood Strike / The TV Whore
Oct. 22, 2007

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Over the last few weeks, the looming writer’s strike has frequently been mentioned on the site. But maybe you don’t follow as many Hollywood, movie and TV blogs and sites as us — because, you know, you have a life — and don’t know what this strike business is all about. Well that’s why the TV Whore is stepping in to give you the what’s-what. Two quick notes before we get into the mess. First, I think I’ve done a good job of making this relatively readable, but it’s still loaded with business- and industry-type stuff — so while you shouldn’t need an MBA or JD to follow it, I can’t guarantee that you’ll actually be interested unless you care about inside industry stuff. Consider yourself warned. Second, I don’t claim to be an expert on any of this, and I’m sure that I’ve misstated at least one thing. Apologies in advance, and I have no doubt that one of our fearless readers will point out any mistakes in the comments. (Also, a healthy hat tip to If a TV Falls in the Woods and The Artful Writer, two of the many invaluable resources I used in putting this all together.)

There are three unions in Hollywood that get most of the attention from the general public — the Directors Guild of America (the “DGA”), the Screen Actors Guild (“SAG”) and the Writers Guild of America (the “WGA”). (Actually, there are two writers guilds — an East and West version — and as I understand it, there’s often quite a bit of contention between the two. But for the purposes of this discussion, we can collectively refer to them as the WGA.) There are plenty of other Hollywood unions, but we don’t care about the day laborers, right? We care about the “talent!” Anyway, as is the case with all unions, each of these guilds has a large collective bargaining agreement with the Hollywood studio system, and this agreement lays out many details about what kind of work the studio can use the union members for, minimum terms of payment, how royalties and residuals works, etc. These agreements only cover a limited amount of time, so every few years, the unions go into negotiations for new agreements. Sometimes these negotiations are quiet and not contentious, and you don’t hear shit about them. Sometimes, they’re like this year. The WGA agreement is slated to expire on October 31, while the actors and directors agreements are slated to expire next spring (end of June, I believe). Originally, the thinking was that the WGA was going to wait on any possible strike until June, so that it could band together with the DGA and SAG. And yes, even though the WGA contract expires on October 31, that doesn’t mean the writers have to stop working on that date. In these situations, unions often keep working while negotiations are ongoing, and the terms of the expired agreement continue to apply (this is exactly what happened three years ago when the last WGA agreement expired — everyone kept right on working while the negotiations wrapped up over the few months following the expiration). So the writers could keep chugging along, if they want, and take part in a potential three-tiered assault come June.

However, the tide has changed of late, and a strike is now looking increasingly likely. It was clear as early as June that the WGA was actually thinking of an early strike, as it started to put a call out at meetings for folks to help with picketing. However, this was largely ignored by the general press and media, so the notion of an early strike didn’t really enter the minds of most people until earlier this month, when the WGA set a strike authorization vote. Basically, the WGA sent out ballots asking its member writers to vote for or against a strike, with the votes set to be tallied on October 18. This step of getting authorization is an obvious first step towards an actual strike, so this was a clear sign that the WGA was giving serious thought to an early strike. Having now tallied the votes, the WGA says that it got about a 90% authorization for a strike, which is a pretty strong statement from the membership (and the WGA also got the highest voting turnout of its members ever). This was a good bit of luck for the WGA, from a negotiating standpoint, as a united front gives the guild more power than if the strike had been authorized by a lower percentage of the writers (strength in solidarity and all that).

Now this authorization doesn’t mean that the WGA has to strike at midnight on November 1. Rather, it just means the WGA now can call a strike any time after Halloween. But another sign that a strike could be coming sooner rather than later is that a few weeks back, the WGA began circulating draft strike rules to its members. If and when the WGA goes on strike, these rules will apply to the members of the WGA, letting them know what they can and can’t do (primarily this means what projects, if any, they’re allowed to write). And these circulated rules showed that the WGA is planning its strike to be quite broad in terms of the types of projects member writers can and can’t work on. For example, animated features and much online content are not generally covered by the WGA agreement, yet the strike rules forbid WGA members from working on any animated features during a strike. Similarly, the rules indicate that non-WGA members will be banned from future admission to the union should they “scab” it up and do studio work during the strike.

So all signs point towards a strike. But let’s step back and take a look at what the hubub is actually all about. For the purposes of this collective bargaining agreement, the group sitting across the table from the WGA is the Alliance of Motion Picture & Television Producers (the “AMPTP”). This is a trade association which is responsible for handling negotiations on behalf of producers, studios, networks, etc. (that is, Big Hollywood). The current fight between the WGA and the AMPTP actually dates back to 1989. During negotiations that took place way back then, a big sticking point for the writers was getting residuals from the sale of VHS videos. Ultimately, they mostly folded on the issue, and wound up agreeing to take very little in the form of residuals (at least with regards to TV, this was largely due to the fact that it wasn’t really conceivable that folks would buy much TV on VHS, let alone whole seasons or series). However, the way 1989 agreement and subsequent agreements have been worded, this residual issue has also applied to DVDs, where we know sales are now a very big money game, both for flicks and TV. So the writers feel like they wound up getting hosed because of some bad negotiating almost 20 years ago, and they don’t want to get hosed again.

So there are several sticking points in the negotiations. One is that the WGA would like to see greater residuals on the DVD front from here moving forward, to make up for all the money the writers “lost” over the DVD boom of the last few years. But the other big issue focuses on the internet, content for cell phones, and other types of so-called “new media” (including things that folks aren’t even thinking about yet, new technologies, etc.). Here, the writers believe they are also getting a short stick since, right now, they get paid bubkis for content re-shown online. There are certainly a variety of other issues in the mix, but as I understand things, these are really the two big ones.

Early on in the negotiations, the AMPTP said: “OK, we hear you on this new media issue. However, we’d like to take some time to actually study the business aspect of online entertainment and other forms of new media, and after conducting a study, we can re-approach the issue.” The WGA’s responded by basically saying “balls.” Then the AMPTP made a proposal that would’ve changed the fundamental way residuals work, basically saying: “Instead of getting some flat residual based on every use or resale of a product, we’ll tie your residuals into our profits. So we won’t pay you until we recoup our costs, and then we’ll give you some percentage of profits.” And the WGA said “big fat hairy balls” to that. In fact, this proposal got the writers quite fired up. From their perspective, this proposal is a problem because the studios and networks can play with their accounting to say that almost anything isn’t profitable, thereby cutting out the need to make any such payments. Also, the writers argue that this goes against the fundamental theory behind residuals, namely, that you get paid for new and additional uses of something you’ve already created (or written, here in the case of the WGA), regardless of the financial outcome of that new or additional use. Under this new scheme, the AMPTP wouldn’t be paying the writers simply for their authorship, but would be tying their earnings to the end product’s success, which is largely out of the writers’ hands.

And just to really stick the writers’ collective craw, the AMPTP also proposed something with regard to writers who are paid more than scale (that is, more than the minimum fee required by the agreement between the WGA and the AMPTP). Let’s say a writer was paid $10,000 above scale. Under this proposal, once residuals start getting calculated, that writer wouldn’t see any money until there is over $10,000 in residuals. In other words, the AMPTP wanted to say that any above-scale payment essentially amounts to a pre-payment on future residuals. The WGA was fired up over this too, arguing that this also changes the way residuals work, because the upfront payment is supposed to be considered payment for the labor of writing, while residuals are basically a payment for reusing that original work.

As I say, this proposal pissed the WGA off to no end. In fact, they were so hot and bothered by it that the AMPTP recently took a step back on the whole thing (blinking for the first time, if you will), taking the profit-based residuals back off the table. In a statement issued last week, the AMPTP basically said it was pulling this proposal not because it thought it was a bad scheme, but because the writers were treating it as an absolute impasse. In other words: “So we’ve pulled that roadblock, writers — come play nice with us!” And this is, of course, is the major benefit of the WGA moving towards a strike, even if they never actually do strike — if there wasn’t this threat of a strike in mere weeks, the AMPTP surely would’ve pushed this issue harder and longer (that’s what she said!).

Now, aside from the negotiating strength it gives the writers, there’s another reason why the tide has turned, making a WGA strike more likely sooner rather than later. And this is that the DGA is looking increasingly likely to cut a deal with the AMPTP before its agreement expires in June. This obviously impacts the strength of a united front in June, giving the WGA less incentive to wait. But the other thing is that the WGA is afraid of actually getting screwed by the DGA. If the DGA is the first of the three unions to put a new agreement together, that agreement would act as a baseline precedent for the eventual agreements the WGA and SAG put together. And because many directors are below the line (industry jargon meaning “they don’t get no residuals”), the DGA probably won’t fight the residual issue nearly as hard. And whatever ends up in their agreement could wind up being the same residual scheme the writers are stuck with, and this scares the writers to no end, particularly because the WGA blames the DGA for getting screwed over royalties in the past.

It’s all quite contentious in Hollywood, don’t you know?

So where do we go from here? Well as I said, the WGA wants increased video and DVD residuals, but the AMPTP continues to say “scram.” Basically, the WGA is trying to make up for its monstrous fuckup back in 1989, and many think that this ship has already sailed and that the WGA just needs to chin up on this issue and move on. My guess is that there may be a minuscule increase in the residuals writers see on video and DVD, but that they’ll basically have to give this point up to move forward. In fact, in the AMPTP’s statement last week pulling back its profit-based residual scheme, it also emphatically said that there would be no increase in residuals for video or DVD, for downloads, and for shows made for cable. (Oh yeah, back in ‘89, the WGA fuckup also cost it residuals on most cable programming). In addition to the video and DVD residuals, there’s also a fight over animation, which has largely been outside the scope of the WGA agreement in the past. Here, too, I think we’ll see the matter largely tabled and, at the end of the day, the focus will be almost entirely on the internet and other forms of “new media” — on the reuse of old material online, and on things created specifically to appear online.

But I don’t think it’s going to shake out fast or easy, and I suspect we will see the first writers strike in almost 20 years (the last strike was a five-month stint back in 1988). I don’t think they’ll strike right on November 1, but I do think it will happen in a matter of weeks, likely before Thanksgiving. Which of course brings us to the $64,000 question — what does a strike mean? Hollywood has been preparing for all of this as best it can so in the very short term, the impact on movie and TV consumers would be minimal. If the strike only went a couple of weeks, you’d barely notice. Anything longer than that, however, and you’ll definitely notice. The largest initial impact will be on TV, and it would be big. In preparation for the looming strike, the networks have been pushing to have as many episodes written as possible and, as one studio VP put it, “we are trying to get as much stuff as possible shoved through.” (One imagines that they’re shoving it through the same way one shoves shit through a clogged outhouse.) But even still, they won’t have all that many new scripts if a mid-November strike hits and new episodes would probably dribble out sometime in January, meaning February sweeps would be a rerun and reality-laden disaster for the networks (except for Fox, which can at least bank on “American Idol”). Many new shows that are on the fence in terms of possible renewal or even just full-season orders could see their hopes dim — a network may look at a show and say: “Why should we keep the sets running, and keep paying the cast and crew when they can’t do any work ‘cause we’re out of scripts, when we could just cancel the show now and cut our losses?” (And this would also hurt the network’s bottom line internationally, as new shows generally need 13 episodes to be sold overseas, and most new shows won’t be able to finish 13 episodes if the scripts dry up in mid-November.) All of which means, we can expect more reality TV and more news magazine shows. The networks have been ordering up a bunch of reality TV, and while there will be old workhorses like “American Idol” and “The Amazing Race” (which CBS craftily held as mid-season show, likely for this very reason), we’ll also be flooded with new levels of reality crap. It’ll be a true heyday for television (if the news magazine shows did actual news, I’d say there would at least be a minor bright side to this, the notion of having more news and important stuff on our TV, but we’ll surely just see more sensationalism on things like a special Wednesday 8 p.m. edition of “Dateline: To Catch a Hot Teacher Who Sleeps with Her Students!”).

There are two other important impacts of a strike on the TV side. First, a November strike isn’t just a sword to this season of TV, but it could also hurt the hell out of next season. Pilot scripts for the upcoming season are usually submitted in November and December. Everyone has been scrambling to get whatever pilot scripts they can in by October 31, but this surely means that the quality will be a bit down (some would surely argue a new season couldn’t get much worse than this season, though, so what’s the difference?). And any pilots that do get a greenlight won’t have the advantage of having writers available for re-writes while the pilot is being shot, another dagger to the quality of the final product. But the bigger ramification of a strike is this — you can likely kiss most of your late night shows, including “The Daily Show” and “The Colbert Report,” goodbye. During the ‘88 strike, Carson and Letterman were both off of the air for months without their usual stable of writers, and a strike now would surely mean an almost immediate hiatus of Leno (good!), Conan, Letterman, Kimmel, et al.

Now on the movie side, I don’t think things aren’t quite as bad. The studios have stopped taking writing pitches and have told agents that they only want to see fully developed products being brought to them. Also, they’ve been stockpiling and greenlighting films like crazy, though this is more geared towards getting things completed by June, since a director or actor strike would put all movie production to a screeching halt. A strike of a month or two probably doesn’t have a huge impact on the movie landscape, although we will likely see the ratio of crap-to-good rise slightly. But a longer strike could mean that we see the number of releases on any given Friday slow down a little, and a long strike would surely impact the landscape come next fall and winter. But, as I say, I think the crunch would be felt much harder by the TV networks.

Of course, this discussion is about how the strike impacts us, the viewers. But it’s worth remembering that strikes are also devastating to a lot of people in Hollywood, on a very personal level. Some people might think: “Well the directors and the actors and the writers and all of them can afford a strike because they make a fuck ton of money.” But remember, the vast majority of the guilds are not the Steven Spielbergs, Tom Cruises and (fucking) Paul Haggiseseses. That is, they’re not the folks with plenty of money to burn, who can go the rest of their lives without working. Particularly with regard to the writers and actors, they’re folks who make as much as, or less than, you and I. Working schmoes just struggling to get by. I was reminded of the personal stakes in all this when I met a friend of a friend last week — as a member of the WGA, she was talking about the fact that a strike would mean she’s essentially unemployed come Halloween. And having recently purchased a new home, she’s got two mortgages staring down at her like the double-barrel of a shotgun. While she was commendably upbeat about it during our conversation, she also noted that she’s basically been an emotional wreck ever since the WGA strike became a looming reality, and I can only imagine the emotional roller coaster I’d be on if I suddenly found out that I was not only about to be unemployed, but that I was essentially prohibited from seeking out any other job I’m actually qualified for. That’s fucking terrifying. And it’s these types of folks — people really no different than you or I — who are the real stakeholders on the union side of things. Plus, a lot of assistants and low-level Hollywood types are the ones who will feel the financial crunch from the studios. In fact, many places have already cut down on overtime and other expenses for these folks, and a prolonged strike would surely see a fair number of layoffs. (One could also talk about the financial hit many agents would take from a prolonged strike, but nobody feels bad for agents, rights?)

While it’s important to remember these personal stakes, none of this is meant to suggest that I’m 100% on the union side. Yes, I’m generally inclined to take the side of labor in any sort of People v. Big Business situation. And for the most part, I think the WGA is in the right here. But to at least a certain extent, Hollywood’s side of things is equally understandable, if a bit less “personal.” For example, when the WGA published its strike rules, the AMPTP went apeshit. The rules were full of threats of fines and punishments and blacklisting, and the AMPTP said it was a waste of energy, and amounted to tactics which were antithetical to avoiding an actual strike. I think there’s something to that — the threat against blacklisting non-WGA members who “scab” is harsh, and the WGA’s attempt to ban writing animated features, online content and other things that aren’t even in the WGA’s general scope is a bit authoritarian.

More importantly, you’ll recall I told you about the profit-based residuals which the studios proposed and then took off the table. Now I know the writers went ape-shit over this, but in the right context, I don’t think it’s an entirely terrible proposition. For example, the real dog in the fight here is online content. Now the studios proposed conducting a study of how shows are distributed, how money is made, etc., and the WGA said “no.” I have no problem with that. But the fact of the matter is, because it is a relatively new business model, I wonder how much networks actually do make off of the shows that they simply post online or make available for downloads, for free. The only source of revenue would seem to be, for now, ad sponsors, and I suspect that the ad revenue doesn’t amount to a ton more than the costs involved with getting content online (while not terribly expensive, the costs also aren’t negligible). While it may go against the “nature” of residuals, I’m not so sure that it’s a terrible idea that the writers’ “residuals” for online content should be some share of profit, rather than a base payment regardless of whether the studios make money or not. Part of this is because I worry that there could be a negative impact to online content in the long run — if residuals are set at a relatively high amount, what happens if the advertising revenue isn’t incredibly strong? Networks may start cutting back on the free online content, simply turning to pay-to-download/view services (e.g., iTunes or that Amazon box-whatever service). And, personally, I don’t want to see online content take a step backwards like that. Second, I think the WGA may be a bit short-sighted here. The trend surely seems to be more and more towards “new media” viewing of TV and I suspect that, five or ten years from now, any base residual they set now could be dwarfed by some percentage of profit (as long as some way was setup to ensure that the studios and their magic accountants were relatively fair in categorizing and tabulating the relevant finances).

In any event, that’s the state of the landscape. The AMPTP president says that the WGA is “hidebound to strike,” and that in the most recent negotiation sessions, the AMPTP was “met with only silence and stonewalling from the WGA leadership.” I agree that, from all appearances, the WGA seems absolutely ready to strike. Is it a good thing or a bad thing? I’d say it’s neither — it’s just a thing. This isn’t a black or white issue, and there aren’t any easy answers. As a lawyer and someone who follows the TV industry, I find all of this fascinating and am curious to see what twists and turns it all takes as things shake out. But as a viewer, I want to see things resolved as quickly (and hopefully, fairly) as possible, lest the TV landscape in February and March look absolutely bleak and barren. Though I guess I could always read a book.

Grocer: Why don’t you just join the union, we’ll go upstairs together and cap daddy!
Marty: This union, there’s gonna be meetings?
Grocer: Of course!
Marty: No meetings.



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Seth Freilich is Pajiba’s television editor. He’s thinking about going on strike for better working conditions here at Pajiba. He doesn’t understand why Dustin makes him wear a thong while he writes all his pieces.









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Comments

It really does seem that the writers got screwed in the 1989 negotiations. In my experience, producers are pretty much 100% the ones behind fucking up good shows with their "interventions" so there's another reason to side with the writers. In short, I'm sticking a Billy Bragg CD on and singing along in solidarity.

Posted by: PaddyDog at October 22, 2007 3:01 PM

Workers of the world unite! (click, click) Look at that, empty!

Posted by: Sean at October 22, 2007 3:06 PM

Heeee, nice Grosse Point Blank reference! Awesome article, Seth; labor relations is right in my wheelhouse, and I can't even nitpick anything.

This is somewhat curious: when the WGA published its strike rules, the AMPTP went apeshit. The rules were full of threats of fines and punishments and blacklisting, and the AMPTP said it was a waste of energy, and amounted to tactics which were antithetical to avoiding an actual strike

This is an interesting tactical move, because it actually stands to hurt the union. In a traditional strike union members can take work from other employers to help them get through the strike, e.g., striking Safeway workers can take work at Raley's. They just can't cross the picket line to the primary employer. This occurred in the recent Northern California nurses' strike, where strikers honored the picket line but worked temp nurse jobs instead of manning the picket line.

But here, because of the multi-employer structure and the broad no-work rules, writers are more likely to "cross" the imaginary picket line and do work because their other outlets are pretty limited -- unless they want to sack groceries or dig ditches to pay those multiple mortgages.

Dateline: To Catch a Hot Teacher Who Sleeps with Her Students

Given the upcoming writer's strike, I'll volunteer to do a real-time review of this one. Scab!

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at October 22, 2007 3:11 PM

Of course, this discussion is about how the strike impacts us, the viewers. But it's worth remembering that strikes are also devastating to a lot of people in Hollywood, on a very personal level.

Umm I don't see how this can be devastating for the viewer, really, just read a book. Or pajiba. When you put it in this context being slightly bored in the evening doesn't seem that bad.

Posted by: ChrisD at October 22, 2007 3:24 PM

What happens in the case of actors who are also writers?

Posted by: anikitty at October 22, 2007 3:25 PM

If you want to know what things are like for the writers in Hollywood here is all you need to know: There is a well-respected legal guide book for them called "The Writer Got Screwed".

Any questions?

Posted by: Henry at October 22, 2007 3:30 PM

P.S. Thanks for summarising this, it's nice to have some idea of what this is about.

Posted by: ChrisD at October 22, 2007 3:39 PM

anikitty raises a good question:

Say the writer of a particular episode of Show X is directing Episode X. If he makes any story changes, wouldn't that be a revised story so a theoretical rewriting of the script. During the strike, rewrites would be under the prohibited work rule.

What's the solution to that or is that not a plausible scenario?

Posted by: Chris W at October 22, 2007 4:23 PM

Nicely done Seth. Couple points: as I understand it, the major issue with online/new media content is less about whether residuals are from dollar one or profit based and more about the AMPTP wanting to declare it all promotional and ergo not subject to residuals of any kind, leaving the writers with nada. Also, as it's been explained to me, the majority of what the studios have greenlit on the feature side are tent pole movies with out scripts. They will most certainly be screwed out of summertime blockbuster money if the strike happens.

I've read a smattering of comments/posts around the tubes in the vein of "oh no! not my tv shows!" which, as a fan, I get. But the implications for us desk monkeys trying to claw our way up the ladder are rather massive. Thanks for acknowledging that.

Posted by: Beckylooo at October 22, 2007 4:29 PM

And to answer the above question, you can shoot and cut but you can't write. Supposedly, the script will be compared to the final cut and if there are derivations (outside of what can be claimed is actor ad libbing), you get fined. I have no idea how thorough the WGA will be in this endeavor.

Posted by: Beckylooo at October 22, 2007 4:35 PM

Hmmmmm, this are the same writers that bring us such fine fare as Two and a Half Men, the Tyra Banks Show and Motherfucking Cavemen...right?

I'm still waiting for the negative here.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at October 22, 2007 4:38 PM

Hollywood needs to pull a Ronald Reagan and say "Oh you don't want to work? Well, then you're all fuckin' fired. Cause there are plenty of people who want your jobs."

Honestly I can't go two steps in Hollywood without finding someone who has a script they want produced. Just hire a bunch of non-union (aka starving) writers to work in their stead. What are the union writers going to do? Rough up the scabs? Gimme a break. The worst they'll do is not give you a full standing ovation at your lifetime achievement oscar presentation.

Posted by: Tanner at October 22, 2007 5:31 PM

Great article, Seth. It really puts a new perspective on the machinations of Hollywood. And I agree, it isn't a black or white issue. Both sides have done enough to mess up the negotiations.

Two funny thoughts just occurred to me: one, that possibly the real reason the WGA got screwed in 1989 was because they were all blasted out of their minds on coke, and only recently gotten sober enough to realize how bad they screwed the pooch.

Two, as far as the "link residuals to profits" idea, that was never going to work, because the writers would not only have to start caring about quality again, but whenever they do get a script approved, they will be attending casting sessions like sports drafts ("Come on, let me get a good one, at least Alba. What? Lohan? FUCK!! There goes my perfect season! FUCK!!!!").

Posted by: Vermillion at October 22, 2007 5:59 PM

Two, as far as the "link residuals to profits" idea, that was never going to work, because the writers would not only have to start caring about quality again...

Uh, ouch.

Posted by: Beckylooo at October 22, 2007 6:08 PM

I'm sure he was referring to all the other writers, Beckylooo Who. Besides, you're an "aspiring TV writer aka an assistant," so you haven't even had your chance to clean up this town, I take it.

the majority of what the studios have greenlit on the feature side are tent pole movies with out scripts. They will most certainly be screwed out of summertime blockbuster money if the strike happens.

Not even being facetious here: For Transformers and its ilk, don't they crank the script out over the weekend after the CGI guys tell them what the movie's going to look like? For serious, how long could it take to write National Treasure II?

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at October 22, 2007 6:14 PM

Sorry beckylooo, no offense was intended. I am sure you do care about quality, but let's be honest, some writers (as true with people in a lot of vocations) don't have that kind of work ethic. If their residuals were linked to profits, that means they would have to fight and scrape to make sure they weren't going to get crapped on because some asshat a thousand miles away decided to add a few 'poop' jokes and it tanks. At least with the old plan, you could get your check no matter how much or less you put into it, and not have to worry about it tanking on the first go-round.

He doesn't understand why Dustin makes him wear a thong while he writes all his pieces.

What? He told me that was the uniform for the "super-special" guest reviewers! Oh my God! I feel so grimy and used now.

Posted by: Vermillion at October 22, 2007 6:24 PM

Yeah, I've got my Dyson ready to rock when I finally get invited out from behind this desk. I'm hoping to keep the immediate area around my feet dirt free. And while you're right, it shouldn't take more than a weekend at home with a keg and some typing monkeys to bust out the next Cage vehicle, it takes a long, long time. Duct tape and hog tie executives so they can't offer their endless drivel of "notes" and you just might have a shootable draft by 10/31.

Posted by: Beckylooo at October 22, 2007 6:29 PM

"He doesn't understand why Dustin makes him wear a thong while he writes all his pieces."

I don't know and I don't care. What I do want to know is when you start doing live webcam video reviews.

Posted by: Tiki at October 22, 2007 6:54 PM

I commented a bit ago but it got sucked into the Pajiba spam filter. I didn't take offense at all, Vermillion, just felt like striking a righteously indignant pose in the moment. I was feeling saucy.

The thing is (and I'm opening this here can of tuna with every intention of taking one bite and putting the rest in tupperware for later enjoyment) writers have about as much affect on the quality of a movie as an auto worker on an assembly line has on the quality of a Ford. (I'm speaking specifically about movies here. TV is a whole other story.) You can not fathom how impossible it is to actually sit down and write a studio movie. Even the A list, big deal writers get "noted" to death. It's not that they don't care about quality. It's that they want to eat and there comes a time after the fifth draft where you throw up your hands and say, "Fine. You want more poop jokes, you get more poop jokes. Just send me my fucking check."

Posted by: Beckylooo at October 22, 2007 7:09 PM

Oh NOW my first comment pops up.

Posted by: Beckylooo at October 22, 2007 7:11 PM

And just cause I can't seem to shut up today - your argument that profit based residuals would encourage writers to pay more attention to quality assumes good movies make money and bad ones don't. God how I wish you were right.

Posted by: Beckylooo at October 22, 2007 7:14 PM

As long as it doesn't fuck up Lost or Battlestar Galactica - do what you got to do. I have a few books lined up just in case. There is no way am I going to stoop to talking my husband after work. I have to draw the line somewhere.

Posted by: Rene at October 22, 2007 7:24 PM

"The WGA's responded by basically saying 'balls.'... And the WGA said 'big fat hairy balls' to that."

It's been a long day and that made me giggle.

Thanks.

Posted by: Sarah at October 22, 2007 7:32 PM

one- to all the folk who think that writers should just suck it up and deal have no idea how hard it is out there. I'm just starting a career - or hoping to - and you'd have no idea how many people want to screw me out of my own writing because I should be "happy that get my stuff produced". One recent so-called producer wanted me to supply 10K of my own money to get it produced.

The rules are there for a reason. Because people think that writers are expendable And we're really not.

Second - where is that article quote from?

Posted by: Withnail at October 22, 2007 10:48 PM

You know, this could all be solved if we just stopped watching TV.

Posted by: ciji at October 22, 2007 10:58 PM

I work in advertising, and you wouldn't believe the number of things that can change on something that's only 30 seconds long. I can't fathom the amount of changes to a TV show or 2-hour long movie. To imply that lack of quality is all about the writing just sounds like B.S. And I have been dismayed at the amount of suckitude in the writing of a TV show or a movie. But suck-ass writing or not, it still represents labor and should be treated as such. I'm on salary and I'm glad I know how much money I'm pulling in and that it is a set amount determined ahead of time and not up to the creative accounting of a studio. I kinda the feel the writers on that one.

Why can't writers get a deal like some other people - they get a set amount to start with and then a percentage of revenues (total revenues)? Isn't that how big-shot actors/producers/directors get those giant paydays? They get paid to act/produce/direct and if the movie is a giant hit, they get a percentage of that action too? Or do they not want to share the wealth?

Posted by: LL at October 23, 2007 1:42 AM

If this delays the season 4 premiere of Lost, I'm choking someone.

Posted by: Faye at October 23, 2007 1:52 AM

If it delays the season 4 premiere of Lost, I'm buying someone a drink.

Posted by: Craig at October 23, 2007 9:28 AM

"If this delays the season 4 premiere of Lost, I'm choking someone."


Faye: Lindelof and Cuse have already gotten the first few episodes written, and I think that they're beoing filmed now. But if this strike goes on, there may be a lapse in the loooong awaited 16-episodes-of-Lost-bliss that will be Season 4.
And if that happens, then I'm with you, and we'll go together in search of our choking victim.

Posted by: Racharooni at October 23, 2007 9:32 AM

Wow, the vitriol is really surprising Pajibans. Seriously, people negotiate their salaries all the time. They negotiate their position within the industry, and I would venture to guess that those of us not involved in the system are really ignorant to how the rules can be applied to really choke growth and advancement within the writing field.

It's a sad thing that Unions and their main negotiating tactic- striking- is so vilified in this country. It didn't used to be this way- more people were protected by Unions, there were safe guards in place to protect workers and their interests. Before Regan, the Department of Labor used to protect Laborers, not Big Business.

This is usually a pretty Progressive group- protecting workers from Profiteering Corporations is on the Progressive agenda. Does it suck that, in most jobs, if you refused to work you'd be canned? Sure does. It also sucks that you can be fired for no damn good reason in a lot of states, that you can be expected to work over 40 hours a week without any extra pay, that companies can screw people out of benefits in a myriad of ways and there's no one to protect them.

Writers should negotiate. The idea that the DVDs I buy have no impact on a writer's residuals? Crap. The fact that people simply do not watch TV the same way- that the influx of internet media is growing- it is in their best interests to negotiate and protect their product. Creative work is so difficult to put a price on, but we've done it, and yes, it's convoluted. But it needs to be, and however they try to work it out is fine by me. But I'm gonna side with the worker over a multi-million dollar business any day and twice on Sunday.

Posted by: lilianna28 at October 23, 2007 11:01 AM

I know EXACTLY what's behind all of this.....Hugo MOTHERFUCKING...Chavez and all the Clintons.

COM. MU. NISTS.

Remember the MAINE!!!!!

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at October 23, 2007 1:21 PM

If it delays the season 4 premiere of Lost, I'm buying someone a drink.

Aahahhah.

Thanks for the summary, Seth! I pretty much had no idea what it was all about. I feel... enlightened.

Posted by: Gabs at October 23, 2007 1:29 PM

Non-union writers who break the strike will be screwing themselves. Big time.

As far as the whole DVD/Video residuals issues, Hollywood needs to shut-up and pay up. It costs them NOTHING to produce and distribute DVDs. The writers created the product that they make millions off of.

And why is the writer's fault that there's so much crap on TV and in film? There are inept, terrible writers just like there are inept, terrible workers in any field, but the quality of the final product is almost entirely out of the writers' hands. They have to take network notes, studio notes, and take advertisers interests into consideration on TV; they don't get to sit next to the editor or in on most casting sessions; and they are often completely re-written by other writers who are often hacks employed by the big wigs to make a script "broader" so it can reach a "wider" audience. And still! Some really amazing, well-written shows slip through the cracks. Granted, they often get canceled, but I don't think a bunch of non-union writers crossing picket lines would lead to a renaissance in film and tv.

Let them at least get paid for all the work they do. Even if half of the work gets scraped or marred beyond recognition.

Posted by: Sassafras at October 23, 2007 4:03 PM

Question: In the cases where an actor on the show is also credited a writer, what happens then? Can he keep writing? Even if not, can he keep filming? If he does, does that mean he can't help at all with script corrections?

An example being BJ Novak from The Office, although it doesn't seem he has a writing credit yet this year.

Posted by: Brian at October 23, 2007 4:47 PM

Nitpick: (fucking) Paul Haggiseseses. Standard usage is f***ing as a modifier on the last name, not the whole name. Example: Bucky F**ing Dent

Posted by: Brian at October 23, 2007 4:51 PM

If Lost is delayed, I'm going to punch someone.

Posted by: Adam at October 23, 2007 8:36 PM

Dustin makes you wear a thong while writing?

Sweet!

Posted by: agent bedhead at October 24, 2007 2:02 AM

Hollywood executives can burn in Hell.

I just want Lost back by February and a quality season of it too!

Posted by: Adam at October 24, 2007 12:13 PM

Your assessment of the logic of the networks (an oxymoronic concept, by the way):

". . . a network may look at a show and say: "Why should we keep the sets running, and keep paying the cast and crew when they can't do any work 'cause we're out of scripts, when we could just cancel the show now and cut our losses?"

If the writers strike, the networks pay neither casts nor crews of television shows in production. The production shuts down, and we ALL make zip for the duration of the strike. Most people working on crews live paycheck to paycheck and are absolutely terrified. If it goes to strike and lasts for any length of time, many, many lives will be affected, some disastrously so.

For your thong, I recommend stretch lace. It lays gently and never chafes.

Posted by: Sam at October 26, 2007 1:35 PM

The strike will happen. It must happen; writers are doing work that they are not getting paid for.

Though, it is definitely worth considering the execs position right now to fully understand what is going on - they are losing money and are scared shitless.

This kick-ass piece by Drew Lanza at Internet Evolution, outlines how advances in storage capacity (for example, an Ipod that can hold all of the music ever recorded), will bring Hollywood to its knees. He also makes some interesting projections, though, it's not really an uplifting read.

But, even if producers/execs are scared shitless; their job is to produce content and to take the financial risk. And if they are losing money, it is the producers job to brainstorm newer marketing ideas and to take steps to protect intellectual property - or at least their own product. And not to screw writers out of pay.

Posted by: Elisa at October 26, 2007 5:29 PM

To those wondering, Lost is currently shooting the seventh episode. I'm under the impression that the writers tend to be an episode or two ahead of the shooting, yes? So the writers are probably writing episode eight or nine at the moment. Whether or not Lost is affected by the strike is contingent upon when the strike happens and how long the strike goes on. But if Lost is affected, it will be one of the last shows to be so.

Posted by: S. A. Bonasi at October 28, 2007 1:13 AM

I must admit, I'm torn on this issue. I have friends who are actors, and I don't want to see them starve (or asking me for money).

But at the same time, America patronizes dumb shit over quality every dayum day, so if a strike brings all the crap to a boil, maybe, just maybe, people will wake up and start demanding decent TV/Movies.

(Dang, that's a lot of commas up there.)

Posted by: ciji at October 29, 2007 6:22 PM



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