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There is nothing particularly exciting in today’s round-up, aside from typical rumor and conjecture about the prospects of crappy sequels and bad remakes, which is why I lead today with a couple of winners from last night’s Teen Choice Awards, if only to demonstrate to the Pajiba audience what we have to look forward to in our elder years. After all, if our contemporaries are currently shitting out JCPenney ads and a slew of remakes that capitalize on Gen-X nostalgia (failing to recognize that Generation Douchebag has absolutely no interest in our relics), I can only imagine what the youngsters these days will be foisting onto the big screen when they come of age, while we’re shuttling to our children’s college graduations in our garbage-fueled SUVs. Why the worry? Because, among the winners at the awards ceremony (televised last night), one in particular stands out: The award for best drama, which went to Step Up 2: The Streets.

Best drama? Really? Maybe some will see fit to excuse the choice, perhaps blame it on the naiveté of youth. But not I. Nevermind that Step Up 2 was about as fun as cruising The Sonic for STDs in a souped-up El Camino with the bass turned up to 11, but it terrifies me to know that the future of our pop-culture landscape will be left in the hands of a bunch of popped-collar, reality-television obsessed hooligans who can’t even properly categorize a film. That is, of course, if they’re not all killed off while text-messaging and crossing the street at the same time (fingers crossed). Meanwhile, Juno, a teen drama with some comedic elements, was given the award for best comedy. Surely, Juno warranted praise from the twerpies (and Ellen Page was also given the award for best comedic actress), but when you’re deciding which movie goes into which category, maybe it’s best to put the movie about teen pregnancy, adultery, divorce, and coming of age in the drama category, and the movie about bringing a hip-hop flavor to a modern dance school in the shitty film category. It’d also be nice if the tweenies looked up the word “Bromantic” before awarding What Happens in Vegas? the award for best Bromantic Comedy, particularly since it, too, belonged in the shitty film category.

Deals

Oh, and they’re making a Scooby Doo 3, a straight-to-DVD prequel, because there’s nothing like an origins story to spice up your pot-smoking, Mystery Van a-rockin’, bloodshot-eyed crime solving team and their mumbling fucking dog. It goes into production this month, and will probably vie for honors at next year’s Teen Choice Awards for best biopic.

And speaking of bad ideas, Howard Stern — who has already purchased the rights to Porky’s — has hired Alex Winter, aka Bill S. Preston Esquire, to write the script for his remake of The Ramones’ Rock ‘n’ Roll High School. You know, because there are so many bands to choose from when picking a rightful successor to The Ramones, like Fall Out Boy! or Blink 182! because wouldn’t it be fun to see the high school students join up with the oppressive administration and decapitate the poseurs trying to “inspire” the students to rock and roll anarchy! Hey ho! Let’s go! (Note: If Stern chooses the Foo Fighters, all will be forgiven).

Sequels

In sequel news, there’s this: Mike Myers, recognizing that he’s only got a couple more films under his belt before taking up permanent residence as the center square in “Hollywood Squares,” and in guest roles in the defunct “Will & Grace,” has decided to go ahead and start work on Austin Powers 4, because after suffering through a decade of shitty Mike Myers’ accents, what we’re really looking forward to is a return to the shitty Mike Myers’ accent that made him a star! Elsewhere, despite the fact that no one has worked up the energy to go see The X-Files: I Want to Believe (I’m still thinking about it, but I’m thinking about it real hard), Chris Carter has nevertheless suggested that he’d like to do another X-Files movie. And while I’d welcome another installment, I hope that the movie franchise doesn’t ultimately go the way of the last three seasons of the show. In other words, please keep Robert Patrick away. Also: Bring back the inbreeds!

Meanwhile, some guy who knows somebody who once drank coffee with the cousin of a dude who plays a dude disguised as a dude working in the mailroom over at Pixar has mentioned that someone, somewhere thought it might be a good idea, someday, if they get around to it, to make a sequel to Monsters, Inc.. Sounds like confirmation to me! Also, did you know that they are making a sequel to Cars? True story. Comes out in 2012, and while I liked Cars, it and Monsters, Inc. are my least favorite Pixar films. Also, why doesn’t Pixar include more nude scenes in its films? Seems like an easy way to make more money.

Finally, studios have gotten bored with making quality comic-book films, so the cash-in onslaught is set to begin. First up: Looks like Venom is gonna get his own spin-off. Because who doesn’t want to see an entire movie without Spider-Man that revolves around Spider-Man’s archenemy. Also, who doesn’t want to see a summer blockbuster featuring two full hours of Topher Grace!

Trailer Watch

Sometimes, when there’s a particularly bad week for industry news, where I have to work to find something that’s still not particularly worth writing about (see, Austin Powers 4), I like to share the pain, even if that means showing you a trailer you’ve already seen. I hope you’ll watch it anyway. We’re all in this together, you know?

I’m not sure what to think of the trailer for Rachel Getting Married. First of all, as much as I dig her, Anne Hathaway doesn’t strike me as the type who can play trashy bad girl. And Jonathan Demme isn’t exactly the kind of director I can accept slumming it indie style. But then again, it’s got all that pretentious hipster bullshit that I’m contractually obligated to love (and do!), so I’m kind of looking forward to watching it at the art theater with a bag of popcorn sprinkled with Brewer’s Yeast. That’s just how I roll.

Of course, when I’m not being a pretentious douchebag hipster, I like to pretend that, when I was younger, I was cool enough to listen to Motorhead. The truth: I had a couple of tapes, but they were mostly for show when the stoner chicks came round (note: No stoner chicks ever came round). I found Jon Bon Jovi’s lyrics a little more accessible … and coherent (I also had my pick among the NKOTB chicks). So, yeah: I’m just going to have to pretend that I’m really excited about Lemmy: The Movie, a documentary about , er … Lemmy. And, at four minutes and 15 seconds, I’m not sure this trailer isn’t the entire movie. Hooray for double negatives!









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Comments

...Anne Hathaway doesn't strike me as the type who can play trashy bad girl.

Dustin, have you forgotten that gem from 2005, Havoc? Anne played pretty good trash in that. AND you get to see her boobs. I think. It's been awhile since I was subjected to that movie.

Posted by: Lincoln at August 5, 2008 8:28 AM

Austin Powers 4??

I drag my sorry ass into work on a stupid bloody Tuesday, when the heat index is going to top off at 105 by this afternoon (whether I live long enough to see it or not), and you blind-side me with this sucky-ass news??!

This is going to be one long fucking month...

Posted by: TMax at August 5, 2008 8:30 AM

The future is sucking cock as we speak. Was Juno even nominated for Best Drama?

"Note: If Stern chooses the Foo Fighters, all will be forgiven." Don't be so sure.

Pixar jumping on the sequel bandwagon, even the best cave in eventually. I still think they'll be good though; Monsters Inc. is one of the funnier ones I thought (not a fan of Cars though). They really need to get on an Incredibles sequel.

"Looks like Venom is gonna get his own spin-off." Pffffffffffffffffffffttt

And rose, darling? I'm there.

Posted by: Mick J at August 5, 2008 8:37 AM

I didn't bother watching it, but I read the winners of the Teen Choice Awards, and all I can say is, I'm not affiliated with these people. I mean my GOD, The Jonas Brothers won just about every music category. And the Breakout Actor? Drake Bell for Superhero Movie. For the record, I'm only a member of generation Douchebag due to unfortunate timing, not taste.

That being said, I have high hopes for Rachel Getting Married. I love Art House Prentiousness!

Posted by: Jeremy at August 5, 2008 8:42 AM

The guy doing the toasting in the Rachel Getting Married trailer is a dead ringer for my pastor. Weird. If I'm sacrificing Pajiba cred by not immediately recognizing the actor, so be it. I don't get out enough anymore.

And how exactly is it possible to add treacle to a James Taylor song? Is that what Generation Douchebag is up to these day? If so, maybe we should be more afraid of their technology than we realize...

Posted by: Grover at August 5, 2008 8:45 AM

Will you hate me, Dustin, if I tell you I hadn't heard of Rachel Getting Married before, and now I really want to see it? I love Anne Hathaway. I think she's awesome. Also, I think she can do it. Although I didn't actually see Havoc.

Also, this is why I never watch anything with "Teen" in the title. It's just so disturbing. What have these kids' parents taught them?!

Posted by: Anastasia Beaverhausen at August 5, 2008 9:06 AM

Color me concerned. Pixar honchos have said that WALL*E was the last project to come out of the initial brainstorm of the founders. Now we see that Pixar is working on at least 3 sequels (Toy Story, Monsters Inc., Cars). Did they blow their load on one shroomalicious NoCal idea orgy? They get some slack from me because their only sequel to date, TS2, was flat-out balls awesome but I can't say I'm excited about this sequel news.

Posted by: Ed Newman at August 5, 2008 9:07 AM

ee hee! also, Grover, I kind of liked that version of the song until you said that, and I realized you were correct.

Posted by: Anastasia Beaverhausen at August 5, 2008 9:08 AM

What age group, exactly, comprises Generation Douchebag? At 21, have I escaped, or do I have to pull a Jeremy and pre-emptively distance myself from the slack-jawed gobshites that comprise 82.4% of my contemporaries?

As for the round-up, the usual mix of "meh" and "bleh". Can't believe it's taken this long to make Austin Powers 4 though; that said, if Seth Green has a big part, I may be convinced to go and see it. I know it makes me a bad person, but quite frankly, I don't care. Ours is a forever love!

Posted by: Shay at August 5, 2008 9:14 AM

I have seen the future of film entertainment and it's bland and glossingly sweaty:

http://www.imdb.com/media/index/rg2328467968


http://www.imdb.com/media/index/rg2328467968?page=2


and moist...

Posted by: Adere at August 5, 2008 9:24 AM

What's wrong with El Caminos?

And it figures this site would FINALLY reveal its hipster scum colors. Slamming on Lemmy? OMG

you people are slime. Maybe he's TOO real, TOO raw for your Six Pence Non the Richer sensibilities.

I leave you with this, douchebags:


If you like to gamble, I tell you I'm your man,
You win some, lose some, all the same to me,
The pleasure is to play, makes no difference what you say,
I don't share your greed, the only card I need is
The Ace Of Spades

Playing for the high one, dancing with the devil,
Going with the flow, it's all the same to me,
Seven or Eleven, snake eyes watching you,
Double up or quit, double stake or split,
The Ace Of Spades

You know I'm born to lose, and gambling's for fools,
But that's the way I like it baby,
I don't wanna live for ever,
And don't forget the joker!

Pushing up the ante, I know you wanna see me,
Read 'em and weep, the dead man's hand again,
I see it in your eyes, take one look and die,
The only thing you see, you know it's gonna be,
The Ace Of Spades

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 5, 2008 9:25 AM

jesus, fast enough on the suck button around here. Pixar sequels? Toy Story 3 was up on the block since Disney had the rights (pre the whole Pixar/Disney shakeup) to the characters.

I'm gonna wait until they actually make a bad movie to start flinging poo. ('Cars' was weak, but still had its moments)

Posted by: twig at August 5, 2008 9:27 AM

"Disaster Movie" looks like you're supposed to laugh at the fact that they're ripping off other movies, as opposed to the jokes actually being funny. Frankly, I think "Disaster 76" (which was the movie within a movie that played at the drive in in the movie "Drive In") was better.

Posted by: BWeaves at August 5, 2008 9:33 AM

Also, why doesn't Pixar include more nude scenes in its films?

Well, those "Monsters" were mostly naked, weren't they?

I dragged myself to the X-Files this weekend. Pretty weak, but it was better than Indiana Jones. The lesson of those two movies was clear: If it takes you more than five years to get a sequel off the ground, don't bother, because no one's heart's really in it. Still, if they made another, I would have to go see it. (And Robert Patrick was only in two seasons of the show. And if you ask me, he wasn't the problem anyway.)

Posted by: Todd at August 5, 2008 9:33 AM

Thank you Slim. Can think of few better ways to start the day than some Lemmy.

I'm sorry, must be getting old, but what does "Bromantic" mean? Is it a VD that you catch from people who have slpt with Demi?

Posted by: Brian at August 5, 2008 9:42 AM

Barbado, that song always makes me think of The Young Ones going on the train to do the University Challenge! Against Emma Thompson and Stephen Fry, no less!

Posted by: Loob at August 5, 2008 9:43 AM

1. Airport '79: The Motherfucking Concorde.

"Airplane!" merely had to slightly tweak it to turn it into an intentional comedy. And after "Airplane!", nothing else need be made. So there.

2. What James Taylor song? Jonathan Demme is using James Taylor? Not that it really matters which one, the only song not deserving damnation is "Steamroller Blues" (and only because Elvis Presley and James Burton redeemed it, and no one but the King could have the power to redeem James Taylor).

(but hey, Robyn Hitchcock is apparently in the movie!)

3. Watch the "Classic Albums" episode about "Ace of Spades". Turns out Motorhead are pretty good guys and nice to hang out with for an hour. Lemmy was also the best part of "The Metal Years" of course.

4. Major praise for hyphenating Spider-Man, Dustin. Mind you, I'm not a fervent forward-facing True Believer, but I know what spelling is correct, so it's like seeing "wierd" and "definately".

(Which is to say: unpleasant)

5. Maybe a remake will be better than Rock 'N Roll High School 2" starring Feldman. Maybe.

Posted by: Jay at August 5, 2008 9:52 AM

Two things:

First: Is BarbadoSlim ever going to share the torrid account of his escape from TK's basement?

Second: While I know we're talking about the TeenChoice awards and therefore, it could be implied that there's an age limit on Generation Douchebag, I put it to you that like "Middle America", Generation Douchebag is more of a state of mind than anything else. I know people in their forties who would strongly support the award choices made last night (of course, it's mostly because they only know anything about music or film through their idiot over-indulged children).

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 5, 2008 9:53 AM

Barbado, that song always makes me think of The Young Ones going on the train to do the University Challenge! Against Emma Thompson and Stephen Fry, no less!

Posted by: Loob at August 5, 2008 9:43 AM

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Yeah it's one of those songs, to me it brings memories/visions of working on Camaros, drinking beer, and calling my friends "brah" very ...bromantic. Brian?

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 5, 2008 9:54 AM

Yeah it's one of those songs, to me it brings memories/visions of working on Camaros, drinking beer, and calling my friends "brah"

Also immortalized as the opening credits music for "Zombie Nightmare".

Posted by: Jay at August 5, 2008 9:55 AM

I mean my GOD, The Jonas Brothers won just about every music category

Oh. My. Dad. I'd like to take a moment to thank my big sister for forcing me to listen to radio station 107.7 The End - so full of grunge and 80's punk and whatever category They Might Be Giants falls into - in the early 90's as I was stumbling awkwardly into high school. I don't understand what's happening these days! Why don't these kids appreciate well-written musical angst like they used to!?

You can't remake Rock 'n Roll High School. You can't! I'm gonna throw up. No. I'm gonna go to Newbury Comics and buy some...I don't know...something obscure and imported and possibly on vinyl. This aggression will not stand.

Posted by: HB at August 5, 2008 9:58 AM

And I also need to state for the record that if ANYONE tries to replace The Ramones, there will be blood.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 5, 2008 9:59 AM

HB:

They don't have any angst in their lives because Mummy and Daddy make sure they remain indulged and commercially satisfied at all times. They have been raised on Disney Channel slop. They couldn't think themselves out of an open box. And horror of horrors, they are actually capable of reproducing.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 5, 2008 10:03 AM

That Step Up 2 won ANY award not named the Razzie should be a clear sign of the Apocalypse. It's in there somewhere between the rains of fire and days of darkness: "And lo, I beheld an image of angels and demons battling against one another to choreographed sounds of distant trumps. The battle was won when the sickest looking angel popped his wings"

Clearly what we as a society need is to unleash more Lemmy into our high schools. Following B-Slim's lead:

Shut up, you talk too loud,
You don't fit in with the crowd,
I can't believe you exist,
I've crossed you right off my list,
Too much, too soon,
You're way out of tune,
No Class, No Class

Way out, you're way out of line,
No buddy I can't spare a dime,
Fade out, baby that's right,
No bark and even less bite,

Your perfect smile,
Betrays your lack of style,
No Class, No Class
Ah No Class, No Class

Too late, you can't catch up now,
You face the wrong way anyhow,
I know you ain't got the brain,
To come in out of the rain,

Too bad, no magic,
I'm afraid you're merely tragic,
No Class, baby No Class
No Class, ah No Class

Posted by: BFFredo at August 5, 2008 10:03 AM

Actually, PaddyDog, I'm with Dustin on this one. The Foo Fighters could not only replace The Ramones, they could arguably do a better job. (And no, it's not blasphemy if you think about it, being that the Foos are vastly superior in every way, anyway!)

Posted by: boogs at August 5, 2008 10:06 AM

Jay, it's the cover he did of Buddy Holly's "Every Day". Only gooey-er.

Posted by: Anastasia Beaverhausen at August 5, 2008 10:08 AM

"....Is BarbadoSlim ever going to share the torrid account of his escape from TK's basement?..."


All will be revealed in my upcoming book (which, BTW, has been optioned by the Wienstein Company)titled "How To Escape From TK's Basement and Shoot Him 'Til He's Dead."
Last I heard from Harvey is that, it will be filmed as the story of two mismatched investigators trying to solve a murder.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 5, 2008 10:09 AM

Someone needs to tell Chris Carter that if he makes another X-Files movie, he might want to make it about an X-File. "Psychic asshole helps out the FBI" is a plot that could have come from Criminal Minds, for chrissake. Resurrect Eugene Toombs or Flukeman and you've got yourselves a movie. Still better than Indy 4, though.

Posted by: Three-nineteen at August 5, 2008 10:10 AM

Intelligent debate involving The Ramones, Motorhead and the Foo Fighters?

Fuck me, I may just swoon...

Know your body's made to move,
You feel it in your guts
Rock n' roll ain't worth the name,
If it don't make you strut

Fucking Lemmy, man. Dammit, where's Boo? She should totally be involved in this!

Posted by: TK at August 5, 2008 10:11 AM

Oh Boogs....and to think I supported you through thick and thin on the Mamma Mia debate. Listen, I love the Foo Fighters. They could probably do something very entertaining and interesting in a movie, but if we go down this path of deciding that one can just replace The Ramones, it's only a matter of time before someone decides they can re-do Mystery Train. And since I value my liberty, I would really like to not spend the rest of my life in prison for killing everyone involved with the project as I shall be morally obliged to do.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 5, 2008 10:13 AM

By the way, has anyone gone to IMDb today? You really don't want to. Vomiting may be involved.

Posted by: Three-nineteen at August 5, 2008 10:13 AM

And I ain't dead, motherfucker.

But let our mutual respect for Motorhead create a temporary cease fire...

...for now...

Posted by: TK at August 5, 2008 10:14 AM

...for now...

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 5, 2008 10:15 AM

What's wrong with El Caminos?

I saw that line (the rest of the long-ass message trailed off the bottom of the screen obscuring the author's tag) and thought, "This could only be Slim!"

I envy anyone able to achieve that level of stylistic uniqueness -- no matter what that style may be...

Posted by: Grover at August 5, 2008 10:19 AM

Oh, and did I mention that that Tom Cruise and Kate Hudson are attached?

TK will be played by Cruise.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 5, 2008 10:21 AM

"TK will be played by Cruise"

I thought you guys had just declared a cease fire? That's not the language of detente even by Amadinijad's (Sp?) standards.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 5, 2008 10:24 AM

if they're not all killed off while text-messaging and crossing the street at the same time (fingers crossed).

Darwin people. Love it. Embrace it. Support it. Darwin for President.

If we let Darwin work like he should, we could solve most of the world's problems. Food Shortage? Let Natural Selection work and the population is lowered. Food is abundant for those that remain. Overpopulation? Solved! The stupid die before they can procreate. Global Warming? Solved! Less people, less resources used, less CO2 put out by them breathing.

It would solve everything. It is proved that this will work. Do you still see less capable species alive? No! The same would work with humans.

Darwin '08. Believe.

Posted by: Melody at August 5, 2008 10:26 AM

rightful successor to The Ramones, like Fall Out Boy! or Blink 182!

I am totally notifying Anthony Bourdain about this.

SLIM! Nice to see you back. Who will be directing the movie of your harrowing escape?

Posted by: Melody at August 5, 2008 10:29 AM

Nevermind that Step Up 2 was about as fun as cruising The Sonic for STDs in a souped-up El Camino with the bass turned up to 11

Not just the El Camino, take it a step further: You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at August 5, 2008 10:29 AM

PaddyDog, your support during the whole "Mamma Mia!, we're right and they are quite obviously wrong" debate moved me beyond words and shall never be forgotten.

However, at risk of becoming the victim of a senseless murder, I must say that The Ramones (a second-rate New York Dolls, wish-they-were-The-Kinks kind of collective) do not deserve such fervent and freedom-risking support.

Posted by: boogs at August 5, 2008 10:31 AM

That's not the language of detente even by Amadinijad's (Sp?) standards.

I believe it's "Ahmeaniwannajihad."

Just think about it.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at August 5, 2008 10:32 AM

SLIM! Nice to see you back. Who will be directing the movie of your harrowing escape?

Posted by: Melody at August 5, 2008 10:29 AM
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We're thinking Bay, maybe McG, we are still hammering out the details and working on an...ending...

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 5, 2008 10:35 AM

Boogs:

But would you agree with my slippery slope premise? You see, I see The Ramones as the last defensive line standing between decency and attempts to mess with the legacy of The Clash, and that's where I just cannot allow anyone to go. Would you have Mystery Train re-made with, let's say, Shia LeBoeuf in the Strummer role? It was bad enough when Jaguar used London Calling in a commercial (a part of me died that day). We have to have standards people. Standards.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 5, 2008 10:36 AM

Socalled:

I've also heard "Imadinnerjacket"

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 5, 2008 10:38 AM

Darwin '08. Believe.

Alas, Melody, I believe all too well. Species typically die out because either (a) they are overtaken by their environment in some way, e.g. extinction-level predation, or (b) they inadvertently select for an undesirable genetic trait, e.g. vulnerability to a certain bacterium.

Humankind falls firmly into category "b" -- we have essentially solved the problem of dipshits offing themselves. Oh sure, it still happens, but typically the idiot who decides to save a buck by shaving with a chainsaw has already knocked out a couple of tardpuppies.

When you live in a world where the fucking Starbucks cup warns dumbasses that coffee is hot ... well, adios muchachos. That coffee should have seared those morons' 'nads to the point of sterility, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. At some point in the 20th century, humans consciously decided to select for the stupid gene.

In the words of Pogo: "We is fukd."

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at August 5, 2008 10:39 AM

You know, we'd like to think that natural selection would weed out the unwanteds of Generation Douchebag... but then again a member of said generation was texting WHILE DRIVING and hit a bicyclist at my university last year.

The douchebaggery may cause more harm to all of the unsuspecting and innocent intelligents of the world, rather than the perpetrators. (See also: continuing production of absolute shite movies, e.g. Zohan, Austin Powers 4, and so on and so forth.)

Posted by: Noxbu at August 5, 2008 10:39 AM

Mystery Train

Is that the one with the Japanese kids roaming around Memphis looking for Elvis and staying in the rundown hotel? I love that movie.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at August 5, 2008 10:41 AM

It was bad enough when Jaguar used London Calling in a commercial (a part of me died that day). We have to have standards people. Standards.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 5, 2008 10:36 AM
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Once Nike used the Beatles *Revolution* all bets were off. Yeah, there WAS a revolution...and it sucked.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 5, 2008 10:42 AM

Melody:
Soylent Green is people!!!!!!

Posted by: Grover at August 5, 2008 10:43 AM

Didn't every one like some really shitty music as a teen? I still have my Supertramp cassette-taped-off-of-my-friend's album. I remember being advised that I would have to develop a taste for Air Supply and Chris Cross when I returned to the US, because that's what all the college kids were listening to.

Crap comes and goes, and today's teens will be paying thousands of dollars to see Fallout Boy's 20th reunion tour when their kids are making crap of their own.

Posted by: Wednesday at August 5, 2008 10:46 AM

Noxbu,

Also, another category of douchebag is probably much better armed and skilled with weaponry - maybe I'm only speaking for myself, but up against a hunting rifle, what am I gonna do? Throw my paintbrushes? Although...some of them so have sort of pointy ends...

"I'm swimming in my own soylent waste. It's a good thing."

Posted by: HB at August 5, 2008 10:48 AM

Agreed for the most part, PaddyDog. I think we're safe, though, regarding Mystery Train. The only person who could remake ANY Jarmusch movie (let alone his piece de resistance) would be Jim Jarmusch.

However, bringing The Clash to public consciousness via the medium of TV ad is not a wholly bad thing...how many people who'd never heard of the mastery of Mick Jones and company rushed out to buy Combat Rock upon hearing the music in the Levi's 501 ad? (or even wondered where that catchy sample in Will Smith's woefully misbegotten track "Willenium" came from)

But as remakes go, wouldn't you agree that we could do a LOT worse than the Foo Fighters?

Posted by: boogs at August 5, 2008 10:51 AM

Would you have Mystery Train re-made with, let's say, Shia LeBoeuf in the Strummer role?

SHUT UP, PADDY! SHUT UP!! NOT TO BE PUTTING THAT THOUGHT INTO THE UNIVERSE!!

(So you're saying Chris Tucker would take Screamin Jay Hawkins' role, right?)

ABBA is defensible pop but the Ramones are also-rans? Now you're just taking the piss, you wily boy. You almost had me taking the bait.

Posted by: Jay at August 5, 2008 10:51 AM

"I'm swimming in my own soylent waste. It's a good thing."

Posted by: HB at August 5, 2008 10:48 AM


Your Futurama Kung Fu is strong, it shows you're a person of class and good taste. Not like these, ...scum.

Yeah, you know you're scum.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 5, 2008 10:52 AM

Slim:

Last year at The Pogues St. Patrick's gig, Shane McGowan made so much fun of the use of Sunny Side of the Street in a Cadillac commercial, that I swear they pulled the commercial the next day. He aved his bottle of whiskey in the air and said "yis should all buy Cadillacs, they're fuckin brilliant cars: they gave us loads of money". Then he burped into the mike and launched into the song. I'd love to see the look on the ad exec's face who thought "we'll just use the instrumental opening: no-one will ever associate it with a punk-folk band of drunkards".

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 5, 2008 10:53 AM

Let's get serious here. The Ramones were icons at least as much as they were musicians, and frankly it's much easier defending their iconicity than their musicianship. With that out of the way, I have no qualms commandeering the Murdertank and laying waste to any and all who would tamper with The Ramones' pedestal at the Pop Culture Shrine. Hell, Melody might even see this as a two-fer...

Posted by: Grover at August 5, 2008 11:01 AM

Isn't it Ahmanutjob?

Damn it all, but I want to see Hannah Montana die. This is the same problem I had with House of Wax when I was informed that Paris Hilton would die in it.

Fuck it. I'll preserve my brain cells and wait for the clip to pop up on youtube in a month or so.

I... was never into Motorhead. So, meh.

But Rachel Getting Married shows promise in the late-night-IFC-chocolate-ice-cream-and-vicodin situation I seem to be finding myself in more and more. Too bad the nearest arty theatre is 45 miles away and in the shit part of town (as in, people will steal the most worthless cars [like a 98' taurus] and scrap them within ten minutes. You'll be left with cinderblocks and the steering wheel). I'll have to wait for the DVD.

Posted by: Jaci at August 5, 2008 11:01 AM

Boogs: Agreed. I do love the Foo Fighters.

Jay: Admit it. I've put dark, dark thoughts in your head now.

I'm also thinking it's inevitable there will be a re-make of The Last Waltz with Justin Timberlake and NSYNC and they'll bring in Clay Aiken to do the Van Morrison piece and Fantasia to do The Staples. (yeah, I know, there's a reason I don't sleep at night)

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 5, 2008 11:02 AM

"I... was never into Motorhead. So, meh..."


*stares*

Congratulations.

You've just made the list.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 5, 2008 11:04 AM

"I found Jon Bon Jovi's lyrics a little more accessible ... and coherent"

True dat. To quote the late great Dean Winchester:
'Bon Jovi does, on occasion, rock.'
(I like Motorhead too, though. I'm not entirely beyond redemption. But I'd rather look at JBJ than Lemmy...)

"if Seth Green has a big part, I may be convinced to go and see it."

*snerk* yeah, so would I!

(sorry, I was raised on 'Carry On' films...)

Posted by: Tarn at August 5, 2008 11:07 AM

Boogs:

Sorry, I just can't let this go. I have a huge problem with the fact that the music from the band that was THE anti-establishment band of all time, the band that marched to the factory gates in Manchester and chained themselves to the railings with the striking workers, the band that stood shoulder to shoulder with the miners as the Man tried to close down the mine, the band that conceived the first big music rally against the racists of The National Front, would have their music turned into a commercial jingle.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 5, 2008 11:09 AM

BarbadoSlim (you mahogany god),

I'm flattered and blushing, but I feel I cannot with a clear conscience accept your blessing of non-scumitude. You see...I, too, am indifferent to Motorhead. *ducks* I say go to hell, Barbado Slim!


PaddyDog, I love your Pogues story!

Posted by: HB at August 5, 2008 11:11 AM

"The award for best drama, which went to Step Up 2: The Streets."

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaasweetjesus somebody put a bullet in my skull now. Actually, wait until after I've seen the Lemmy flick. Motorhead is the fucking bee's knees. If I do a little digging, I'll bet I can find my old jean jacket with the Snaggletooth backpatch. Then I'll weep silently as the radio plays another forgettable tune by talentless, generation douche faves.

Dustin, the whole article was in fine form, but the only thing in the whole goddamed round-up that didn't make me sigh in sadness was the Lemmy clip. I likes me some angry rock & roll...

Posted by: Skittimus Maximus at August 5, 2008 11:13 AM

the band that conceived the first big music rally against the racists of The National Front, would have their music turned into a commercial jingle.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 5, 2008 11:09 AM

--------------------------------------------------

How does that quote go...mmmm..."If Da Vinci was alive today, he'd be eating microwave sushi, naked, in the back of a Cadillac with the both of us." (best movie ever made BTW)

and so it goes.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 5, 2008 11:14 AM

Jay,

Apples and oranges. ABBA made the very definition of immaculately-crafted pop songs. The Ramones were punk-rock. I don't think you can compare the two. I love DMX (sorry, everyone, I just sometimes feel the need to blast Ruff Ryders from my pimping Ford Focus!) AND Neil Young, but wouldn't try to compare them or say one's better than the other...too different.

PaddyDog, while that Last Waltz remake sounds brilliant (must get Marty's heir-apparent, Brett Ratner, to direct), I'm holding out for the recently-announced Miley Cyrus-starring Joni Mitchell biopic.

Posted by: boogs at August 5, 2008 11:19 AM

I've missed you B'Slim. When you're re-captured, how about you ask TK for access to a computer for good behaviour?

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 5, 2008 11:20 AM

I call the seat next to Paddydog in the murdertank when we all go avengin' the destruction of the good name of Rock n'Roll.

Ramones Forever!

thatisall.

Posted by: Jen Vegas at August 5, 2008 11:23 AM

You see...I, too, am indifferent to Motorhead. *ducks* I say go to hell, Barbado Slim!
Posted by: HB at August 5, 2008 11:11 AM

---------------------------------------------

Hey, far be it from me to impose my views on others, or..or, to label people who dislike Motorhead as anti-american or communists.


So, you know, I respect your opinion....

comrade.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 5, 2008 11:25 AM

So now we know: B'Slim has been working on the McCain campaign. All is explained.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 5, 2008 11:32 AM

I think we need to unleash Lemmy on the Teen Choice Awards. The carnage would be delicious to behold.

Posted by: eddie at August 5, 2008 11:34 AM

... microwave sushi?

Posted by: Anastasia Beaverhausen (Jr.) at August 5, 2008 11:34 AM

Why do you hate America, PaddyDog?

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 5, 2008 11:34 AM

I just wish Bill Irwin would do more movies. He is such a talented actor. Plus he was Mr. Noodle! Or was he Mr. Noodle's brother Mr. Noodle?

Posted by: wsapnin at August 5, 2008 11:35 AM

Why....

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 5, 2008 11:35 AM

Oh, we don't hate America (by which I assume you mean the United States of). You know we sly immigrant types, we're just sitting here waiting to take all your jobs one by one. Why just last week I took ten jobs off of my unsuspecting neighbours. I'm now the only person on the street who is employed. It's a hoot getting all those welfare benefits under my fake social security number while I carry out most of the urban crime in my spare time.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 5, 2008 11:41 AM

OMG, I've never been so appalled in ALL MY LIFE, I'm just trying to get you people to accept things that are self evident. And what do I get?

Yeah, I get treated like *I'm* the asshole.

What sort of second rate Vietcong operation are you running here Rowles?

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 5, 2008 11:46 AM


Sheesh... The Jonas Brother. Can't someone
arrange for them to be stripped, hog-tied,
greased-up, and dropped off in the
entertainment lounge at the next NAMBLA
convention?

Posted by: Drake at August 5, 2008 11:46 AM

"if Seth Green has a big part, I may be convinced to go and see it.

*snerk* yeah, so would I!

(sorry, I was raised on 'Carry On' films...) "


Tarn - completely understandable, and I'd totally have done the same in your position (heh...'position'). That said, your implication that I'd rush to the cinema to see Naked Seth Green is not so much 'humourous' as it is 'incredibly accurate'; and if he had a big 'part' (ooh, I say!) so much the better.

And in order to distract attention from my admittedly odd taste in men, I'm just going to say: while I'm sure they're good artists from an objective sense, I have minimal time for either The Ramones or Motorhead. The Foo Fighters just about make it, but mainly because of "Next Year". Other widely popular bands that I'm not a fan of include Radiohead and The Beatles.

You may now commence hurling abuse, projectiles and your own faeces.

Posted by: Shay at August 5, 2008 11:50 AM

To each his own, I suppose, and therefore in lieu of abuse I shall hurl only praise and exclamation for my beloved out into the ether. Radiohead forever! Long live Thom Yorke and his crazy eyes! See you at the Tweeter/Comcast Center you glorious son of a bitch! Play Talk Show Host!

Posted by: HB at August 5, 2008 11:59 AM

No love for Hudson Hawk, Anastasia?

Posted by: Grover at August 5, 2008 12:04 PM

Yeah it's one of those songs, to me it brings memories/visions of working on Camaros, drinking beer, and calling my friends "brah" very ...bromantic. Brian?

Ok. Thank you for clarifying. Now I can back to work with no more emotional strain

Posted by: Brian at August 5, 2008 12:14 PM

Ya know, Grover, I'm not certain I've actually even heard of that film, let alone seen it. I hang my head in shame.

Also, if anyone wants to strip, grease up and hog-tie the Jonas brothers and drop them off at my house, well you just go right ahead. I likes 'em young (and stripped, greased up and hog-tied).

Posted by: Anastasia Beaverhausen (Jr.) at August 5, 2008 12:14 PM

I have no qualms commandeering the Murdertank and laying waste to any and all who would tamper with The Ramones' pedestal at the Pop Culture Shrine. Hell, Melody might even see this as a two-fer...

Deal Grover.

I call flamethrower.

Slim, I think that you really have to go with McG. Did you not see his ground-breaking work on Charlie's Angels?

Motorhead rocks.

Posted by: Melody at August 5, 2008 12:16 PM

See you at the Tweeter/Comcast Center you glorious son of a bitch! Play Talk Show Host!

Fuckin thing sold out while I was at work trying to coordinate with a friend if we'd go and who'd put the order in. Seems Radiohead is still a rabidly popular live band, and pissing me off with it. Plus the postponed Elvis Costello show, which would've been about two weeks before it back in April was just officially canceled. Too busy with the Police tour to sneak back into town. Boo to these bastards putting out good albums and keeping me away. Yep, you know I'm born to lose.

(this show would still be hard to top though, http://www.58hours.com/58_displayshow.php?showID=92, especially since it felt like they were playing in someone's backyard)

The Ramones made hastily-crafted pop. They're just another variety of apple. Plus, the first Clash album probably wouldn't exist without them.

I think Joe Strummer said the Jaguar's a cool car, which, you know, it is, so he was okay with endorsing it.

Posted by: Jay at August 5, 2008 12:32 PM

Damn you Rowles for posting shit trailers like for Disaster Movie. I will admit some guilty pleasure in watching the princess get hit by a cab, or Juno kicking a tranny SJP in the face, but my brain hurts and the bitterness is rising too fast to control...

That said, I know we all love and respect Anne Hathaway as an actress and are waiting with baited breath for her latest. I'm pleased to see it's R rated. But with all your connections, insight, and speculation, for the love of Shadows, you couldn't tell us if she gets nekkid, could you! Cuz about the only thing that could make up for that gorram latest Movie movie would be Anne Hath showin' some skin...

I call flamethrower.

Best. Line. Ever. Definitely shirt-worthy.

Posted by: lordhelmet at August 5, 2008 12:37 PM

Pixar honchos have said that WALL*E was the last project to come out of the initial brainstorm of the founders.

What does that mean? Did they sit down one day 10 years ago with a bong, a yellow pad, a pencil and some Cheetos and bang out a list of movies? And WALL*E was at the bottom of the page? Dudes, you're loaded. Just buy some kore weed and start again.

Posted by: Brian at August 5, 2008 12:47 PM

Also immortalized as the opening credits music for "Zombie Nightmare". Just IMDB this? Why is in not on DVD?

Posted by: Brian at August 5, 2008 12:52 PM

It's a damn puckish mood I find myself in, my breath bated with wonderment over what you use to bait your breath, lordhelmet? Me hopes it's something sweet (and forgiving)...

I grudgingly concede the flamethrower to Melody, considering the debacle the last time I tried to steer and incinerate.

Posted by: Grover at August 5, 2008 12:53 PM

See you at the Tweeter/Comcast Center you glorious son of a bitch!

WHOOT! I'll be there too HB! I. Can't. Wait.

Posted by: Julie at August 5, 2008 12:54 PM

Frakking mornings! Coupled with bad news, they're lethal! Of course Grover you're right, that should be bated breath. I shoulda stood in bed, godtopusdammit.

Steering + incinerating = debacle? I should think not - that's my dream commute!

Today's forecast - grumpy with scattered periods of stabby. Also sunny and warm, with mild (white-hot) rage interspersed with homicidal irritation. 69% chance of rampage, with a projected casualties in the upper 40s. Tonight's forecast - dark, with reduced incriminating evidence, followed by increased light and irritation come dawn. Advisories - Watch for flying knives and squirrels, and tread carefully on the...organic...shrapnel. Some may scream that they're not dead yet and that they need medical attention, but pay them no mind as it's well a known fact that the recently dismembered persist in a state of denial for several hours.(This forecast brought to you by the Rightful Death Alliance. Any similarity with TK's usual disposition is purely coincidental. All forecasts final and binding unless successfully averted by bribery, promises of greater future destruction, or repeated viewings of River Tam gracefully kicking Reaver ass.)

Posted by: lordhelmet at August 5, 2008 1:26 PM

Cuz about the only thing that could make up for that gorram latest Movie movie would be Anne Hath showin' some skin...

Unfortunately, taking the lead from Shannon Elizabeth...Anne has said that she doesn't want to show skin anymore, and while she won't necessarily abstain from a really good script that calls for it...won't be doing it haphazardly anymore.

Ya know, the one time she did it.

Welcome back,B-Slim. Your particular brand of vitriol has been missed in these parts. Now if you could tell me where TK's secret hideout was where you escaped from, we can ensure that problem doesn't happen again. I have...agents...at work...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at August 5, 2008 1:31 PM

Why is in not on DVD?

I could say "because it's BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD", but what does that matter in this kinda thing?

It was also the episode that MST3k took on the road to show at colleges. And a grand Adam West time was had by all.

Posted by: Jay at August 5, 2008 1:35 PM

Oh, and I don't believe in the _____ Movie movies anymore. My mind goes blank when the trailers come on. I stopped acknowledging their existence. You all should try it...does wonders for your stress level.

Of course, ignoring the people who show interest in them goes hand-in-hand with that. I'm foreseeing a lot of people getting annoyed at me. Fuck em.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at August 5, 2008 1:35 PM

Ya know, the one time she did it.
Um, Havoc and Brokeback, my friend.

doesn't want to show skin anymore

[eye twitch] Well isn't that just fucking PERFECT!! [starts sharpening knives. Projected casualties reach the low 70s.] Y'know, guys, I may be a little busy for the next while. Ignore the screaming. This day just keeps getting better and better...TK, I may just need to borrow your basement for a while. If that's ok, of course.

Posted by: lordhelmet at August 5, 2008 1:36 PM

Um, Havoc and Brokeback, my friend.

My bad...completely forgot about Brokeback. The one of two reasons I watched it in the first place (Michelle Williams being the other)

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at August 5, 2008 1:39 PM

Hold everything! Stop! Wait! Quit screaming, you crybaby (put some ice on that). Nigel Lythgoe is leaving American Idol! I know it's tenuous, but finally, tangible hope (in addition to falling ratings) that this overrated cultural juggernaut is approaching it's last legs? I'm desperate for some good news here, people.

"McCain & Obama tied after latest poll."

[facepalm] Ahh, shit. Just keep thwacking that beehive, you bastards. Your turn's coming. Now, where was I?

Posted by: lordhelmet at August 5, 2008 1:44 PM

And a grand Adam West time was had by all.

That's a fantastic phrase! I'm stealing it.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at August 5, 2008 1:45 PM

And of course he refers to the local neighborhood Voodoo priestess as "batty".

Posted by: Jay at August 5, 2008 1:49 PM

Focus on happy things, my dear Helmet, happy things. Baby bunnies. Christmas. The way the sky looks before a thunderstorm. Soft serve ice cream. That scene in Spaceballs where your namesake plays with his dolls again. Having your neck kissed. The start of the opening credits to an anticipated movie. Kate Winslet's boobs. Kate Winslet's face. Watching your beloved sports' team kick the ass of its rival.

Happy things!

Posted by: Julie at August 5, 2008 1:57 PM

"I bet she gives great helmet..."

Sorry. Julie inspired me.

Posted by: Noxbu at August 5, 2008 2:00 PM

Kate Winslet's boobs. Kate Winslet's face

Damnit...now that's all I can think about. Umm...besides you, of course, my dear internet fiance...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at August 5, 2008 2:06 PM

So.... Shay... What exactly tops out your musical hierarchy? I simply must know.

I can't even justify this whole step up 2 debacle with a comment... ....doh!

Ok... Let's bring it back to motorhead...mmmm... Delicious. I must say my personal favorite is the on parole album. God damn is that a good one.

Posted by: cass at August 5, 2008 2:10 PM

That scene in Spaceballs where your namesake plays with his dolls again. Having your neck kissed. The start of the opening credits to an anticipated movie. Kate Winslet's boobs. Kate Winslet's face. Watching your beloved sports' team kick the ass of its rival.

And THAT's why I love you, Julie. Whatever I'm paying you, it ain't enough.

Dammit, there's a bunch of chanting conference guests across the hall from me this week. This is going to be a miracle if I don't get stabby this week. Dolls. Neck. Boobs. Face. Sports. Dollsneckboobsfacesports. Dollsneckboobsfacesports. Y'know, for a new mantra, that ain't half bad! Anyone good with disposing of wetwork byproducts? I've got a bit of a mess to clean up.

Posted by: lordhelmet at August 5, 2008 2:10 PM

Pixar honchos have said that WALL*E was the last project to come out of the initial brainstorm of the founders.

What does that mean? Did they sit down one day 10 years ago with a bong, a yellow pad, a pencil and some Cheetos and bang out a list of movies? And WALL*E was at the bottom of the page? Dudes, you're loaded. Just buy some kore weed and start again.


Yes, Brian, that is exactly what it means, although they used the term "lunch".

http://www.avclub.com/content/node/81919

Posted by: Ed Newman at August 5, 2008 2:13 PM

Dolls. Neck. Boobs. Face. Sports.

I read "boobface". HA!

Posted by: jM at August 5, 2008 2:14 PM

All of this makes me sad. I never thought i'd be one of those people that said stuff like "they don't make 'em like they used to," but jesus christ! i'm scared.

also, foo fighters aren't good. they have devolved into brorock.
If you want a good band listen to TV on the Radio. The lead singer of which, Tunde Adebimpe, is actually in 'Rachel Getting Married,' as i believe the soon to be husband. Intelligent Lyrics, innovative sounds. They should be in rock 'n roll highschool, simply for the fact that they completely deconstruct everything the ramones created and rebuild it anew.

please, please, please check them out:

http://www.myspace.com/tvotr

Posted by: Adam at August 5, 2008 2:25 PM

Check out Tv on the Radio tracks like "Province" and "Wolf Like Me".
God this made me listen to them again after a lapse. . . They are magic.

Posted by: adam at August 5, 2008 2:30 PM

Kate Winslet's boobies trump mine, so imagine away Shadows. In fact, I'll join :)

Dollsneckboobsfacesports.

HA! That's a fantastic meditative chant.

Posted by: Julie at August 5, 2008 2:36 PM

Cass - essentially, a bunch of small Scottish and Irish bands you've likely never heard of (e.g., Idlewild, Cowboy X, Gran Casino) and the occasional one you might have (Snow Patrol). Plus some older, more socially acceptable stuff (Pixies, The Cure and the like), and the occasional "cool" new band (Arcade Fire, The Ting Tings, MGMT), which stops me from being an utter social pariah when people talk about music. Eh, people have been mocking my musical taste for about 8 years now; I've learned not to care. I weep on the inside, of course...

And you know who I blame for Anne Hathaway's "No more boobs" policy? The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. I mean, she acts the hell out of Brokeback Mountain, stopping along the way to show just about as much skin as she can possibly show without getting an X rating, and she's still the only major actor in it not to get a nomination. Boo-urns, Oscars. Boo-urns to you. So I'm assuming when she says "unless a role really calls for it", what she actually means is "unless I get a contract signed in blood with my Oscar nomination already on it".

Posted by: Shay at August 5, 2008 4:06 PM

Shay: Aren't you in Dublin? Exactly where are Gran Casino, Idlewild and Snow Patrol not socially acceptable? You need some new friends, fast.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 5, 2008 4:21 PM

@PaddyDog - I know, right? See, no one's ever heard of Idlewild or Gran Casino (hell, I've only heard of the former 'cause my brother used to bartend at their regular and the latter 'cause I know one of them), and Snow Patrol are popular over here, but are seen as too commercial and poppy to be 'cool' by any stretch of the imagination. They don't draw the ire that, say, Coldplay do (I'm quite fond of them too, actually), but few 21 year-old males will really admit to liking them. Certainly, a band like the Arcade Fire is about 27,000 levels up on the 'cool' scale.

(Man, I've really been wandering through topics in this thread, and not one of them is even remotely close to the original post. What was the proper topic again? Teenagers suck or some such? Yeah, down with kids! With their hippin' and their hoppin' and their bippin' and their boppin'; they just don't know what the jazz is all about)

Posted by: Shay at August 5, 2008 6:58 PM

I'd just gotten finished praising Pixar to someone as being a studio that actually comes up with quality original content, and doesn't rely on re-makes, adeptations and the like. I specifically pointed out that they'd only done one sequel (Toy Story 2) in their entire history. Now I find out that they're making not only Cars 2 but Toy Story 3! That sure puts CG egg on my analog face.

Posted by: Craig at August 5, 2008 9:45 PM

shay-

i got into idlewild YEARS ago for your information!

never was crazy about snow patrol, really....but i do have a soft spot for coldplay, i must admit.

and honestly, MGMT and the tings tings made me feel too damn trendy so i had to turn away quickly.. tho that ipod commercial was so catchy. Damn you Apple!!

i'm trying desperately not to become some music snob..but it's so hard.

but.. i never fell in love with the ramones.

radiohead is amazing. i shall see them in San Francisco at the Outside Lands Music Festival soooooo soooooooooonn. hoooooooooray!

radiohead, manu chao, ben harper, beck, wilco, two gallants, m ward, cold war kids, broken social scene, tom petty, black keys, andrew bird, primus... and CAKE for god's sake. o lord. i can hardly contain myself.

and i hated the beatles hype when i was younger..and then i really listened.. and then i did wholeheartedly appreciate.

wow.. this turned into a music rant.

Posted by: cass at August 6, 2008 5:19 AM

The Ramones grew up in my n'hood, so I feel a little connection to them. I know their sound isn't everybody's cup of tea, but I think we need to remember that they started playing in the mid-damned-seventies and that their style of playing was quite new in the United States.

They're also very respected by other respected musicians, which I think says something.

Posted by: ericac at August 6, 2008 7:11 AM

With their hippin' and their hoppin' and their bippin' and their boppin'; they just don't know what the jazz is all about)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnyCJDYONSU

Posted by: Jay at August 6, 2008 7:39 AM

This thread may be nearing its expiration date, but I do rather enjoy the musical direction it has taken in its meandering. Thanks, Shay et al.

It's okay if you have no love to spare for The Ramones, cass. Some things you just have to experience in context, I suppose, or be left trying to appreciate them in the way of an anthropologist. In the middle of your list of musical faves, one name jumped out at me -- Tom Petty! Seemingly not in keeping with the rest, but by no means out of place. I do love me some Tom Petty. Hell, I'd probably like some or all of the ones I've never heard of, but you reach a point in life where trying to be hip musically is about as inappropriate as trying to dress like the twenty-somethings (not that I can see any legitimate reason to try).

All this rumination on The Heartbreakers picked the scab clean off an old wound, too. Among the treasured possessions my ex-wife looted out of my house and sold on eBay were some rare Tom Petty bootlegs on vinyl...any of you whippersnappers understand that?

A word of caution to all y'all (the proper plural form as I learned while living in Atlanta): eBay keeps meticulous records (no pun intended) that are freely (note that I did not say easily) available via civil subpoena. Lying in court about doing something that is refuted by the hard evidence will, handled properly, land said perjurer in the county jail on a contempt of court charge. Small satisfaction, to be sure, but you take what you can get.

To borrow a line from Slim: True story...

Posted by: Grover at August 6, 2008 10:03 AM

Cass - I'm actually somewhat in shock that you've ever heard of Idlewild, let alone like them. Do you mind if I ask where you live? Because I tend to make the (somewhat blanket) assumption that people here are American, and given that the last time I saw them in Dublin (when Gavin Fox was still playing bass for them, making them a partially Irish band) about 100 people showed up, I'm perpetually amazed at the idea of them having fans outside of Scotland.

And I understand what you mean about finding some of that stuff too trendy; I hate having music I like co-opted by people whose tastes I generally find obnoxious, so when singers like Damien Rice and bands like The Killers were hugely popular with the airhead girls in my secondary school, by extension it made me like them less. Snobby? Maybe, but I can't really help my gut reaction to things.

And Grover, glad you're liking it too - I love random tangents that turn into entirely new threads.

Jay, I have no idea what that is thanks to my stupid work's "no YT" policy, but I can't wait to see it if it's even tangentially related to that quote.

Posted by: Shay at August 6, 2008 12:41 PM

Aw, hell.

It's the "Death of Rock" sketch from Kids in the Hall, foretelling the rise of jazz.

Posted by: Jay at August 6, 2008 12:54 PM

"no YT" policy

Damn, that's racist.

Posted by: jM at August 6, 2008 2:01 PM

jM, that'll teach me to abbreviate without thinking through the appropriate risk of Hilarity.

Jay, no worries, I left work shortly after leaving that last comment, so I saw the video before I read your post. No Bill Cosby, but still pretty damn funny. And that guy who played the teacher has been in everything...

Posted by: Shay at August 6, 2008 4:08 PM

When I listen to Ace of Spades it makes me want to go all white-trash-drunk on beer-ridden hard on a pool table for the duration of the song and a few minutes after. Am I alone here?

Posted by: vab at August 6, 2008 4:24 PM

Shay I live in Iowa, US of A. Right smack dab in the middle of the country. It's pretty desolate really.

And I have the same problem as you.. And then I get frustrated with myself for being affected by forces other than the music itself. But I'm not entirely sure that's possible.

and grover I don't know if it's really even a context thing with the Ramones... But regardless, vinyl theft! Now that's a travesty.

Posted by: cass at August 7, 2008 7:10 PM

"about as fun as cruising The Sonic for STDs in a souped-up El Camino with the bass turned up to 11"

was that supposed to be sarcastic.........?

Posted by: cocobravo at August 8, 2008 5:54 PM



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