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Something's Tingling, And It Ain't Raimi's Spidey Sense

By Steven Lloyd Wilson | Posted Under Trade News | Comments (13)



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Spider-Man 4 was originally scheduled to begin filming in February of this year in order to make a May 2011 release date. That’s not going to happen now on account of the minor problem of not having a script. Didn’t seem to stop them on the last one, and certainly didn’t stop the last couple of X-Men films, so I don’t really see what the big deal is.

In any case, the script has already gone through iterations by James Vanderbilt, David Lindsay-Abaire, and Gary Ross, the last of whom actually has a fairly decent screenwriting resume including The Tale of Despereaux, Seabiscuit, Pleasantville, and Big. Sam Raimi is apparently so unhappy with the script that production has been indefinitely delayed and the script shipped out to Alvin Sargent. After the last Spidey was less than well received, it makes sense that Raimi is being picky since that’s how franchises get put on hold and rebooted by someone else five years down the line.

The only problem is that Sargent is the guy who wrote the last two Spiderman films and just happens to be married to Laura Ziskin, who has a producer credit on all 4 Spiderman films. The guy who crapped out Spider-Man 3’s script and is being given a shot at writing Spider-Man 4 is married to a producer. Oh nepotism, is there any job you can’t get done with half the competence and twice the price?

I’ve got a theory that the decline of the franchise has very little to do with scripts. I mean, Casablanca was feverishly written as they shot the film, and Spider-Man has about 3000 comic books to pull plot, dialog and visuals from. Hell, they’ve got the equivalent of about a hundred movies already storyboarded out in the comics. No, the real reason for the decline is much simpler: no Roman numerals. “3” instead of “III”? “4” instead of “IV”? That’s like buying wine in a box. Nothing says a sequel has class like Roman numerals.









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Comments

I might agree with that but Spider-Man 2 didn't have a Roman numeral behind it and it was, without a doubt, the best movie in that series.

Raimi wants to do classic Spidey villains and I say let him. He wants The Vulture? Do that. Elektro? Good. Kraven the Hunter? Sure. Mysterio?

Let's not get carried away.

Here's one way to help improve the movie: the villain attacks Grand Central Terminal and puts Mary-Jane in a coma. One she wakes up from 2 minutes before credits roll.

Posted by: Fredo at January 6, 2010 9:27 AM

One minute. We don't want to overtax Dunst's acting chops.

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Posted by: garyll at January 6, 2010 10:00 AM

After the atrocity of Spider-man 3 I am just fine with mothballing the franchise for a decade or many. Just what ever you do, Sam, don't pay/beg Spider-man 2 scripter Michael Chabon to write the new script. That might be - oh what's the word - oh yeah, SMART.

I would be much happier to hear Raimi is going to start working on (SPOLIER WARNING) "Drag Her Out of Hell". I don't care if it is only an internet rumor, I've seen the movie in my head and it is glorious.

Posted by: TylerDFC at January 6, 2010 10:15 AM

Would Mary Jane be in a coma out in the rain? I could get behind that.

Posted by: Todd at January 6, 2010 10:19 AM

i wish i could muster 1/100th of the excitement i felt waiting in line to see the 1st one.

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Posted by: superasente at January 6, 2010 10:24 AM

Ways to make Spider-Man 4 better- from a fan-boy perspective;

1. One Villain- not three. You can cheat a little if the movie open with Spider-Man fighting and capturing the Lizard as we've already had a set-up with Curt Connors in the previous movies, and because he's not so much a villain as he his an accidental monster.

2. The main villain should be a classic Spider-Man Rogue such as Electro, Vulture, Scorpion, Mysterio, Chameleon, etc. Basically if he wasn't featured in the 1960's animated Spider-Man cartoon, he's not "classic" enough.

3. Kill off Aunt May. One of the flaws about Aunt May in the comic books is that they didn't know when to let her go. In forty+ years she's suffered a couple of dozen heart attacks, cancer, and enough illnesses to make Gregory House contemplate harder recreational drugs, but like Rasputin the little biddy lived on to cram more wheat cakes down poor Peter's gullet. She's supposed to be Peter's conscience and humanity, but in many ways she's an out of touch figure. She's already done her job; she and Uncle Ben raised Peter to be the man he is- now let her slide into oblivion, preferably early on...which brings us to-

4. Evolve Mary Jane. She can take the place of Aunt May in that she can be Peter's connection to humanity, and she can be the understanding person that shares Peter's secret and burden. She doesn't need to be a main character or damsel in distress. I would reduce her role and in doing so make her more important as Peter's anchor to a something towards a normal life. The person he swings home to at the end of the day.

and 5. Give Peter some Karma. After a hard fight saving the good people of New York, Peter, still has bills to pay, laundry to do, & pluming to fix. But sometimes little things should go his way too. I'm not talking about a parade or a bag of money, but it would be nice if not every movie ended with a trip to the cemetery. Maybe Peter gets his degree, maybe he & Mary Jane have a small ceremony at City Hall, maybe he discovers Aunt May left him enough squirreled money to pay his student loans. Whatever the case it should be something that any ordinary person could enjoy, and yet be something to encourage to continue being a hero.

Posted by: bleujayone at January 6, 2010 10:34 AM

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Posted by: radiantjezzy at January 6, 2010 11:41 AM

I don't care what he does with this franchise anymore. All I care about is Legend of the Seeker. When that starts to go downhill- then we'll have words to exchange!

Posted by: CiCi at January 6, 2010 1:17 PM

Yeah, I think I'm done with Tobey and Kirsten. It was a nice ride there for a while, but I just can't get dancing pimp daddy Peter Parker out of my head. Shelve it until the licensing rights almost expire and then reboot it.

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Posted by: Miss D at January 6, 2010 7:19 PM

Miss D, would that be a Freudian Typo?

Posted by: bleujayone at January 6, 2010 8:11 PM