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Screw This Kansas Farm Boy Bullsh*t; Let's Get a Real Superman

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Trade News | Comments (49)



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Armie Hammer — yes, that’s his real name — recently spoke to Vulture about rumors that he might put on the red-and-blue and leap tall buildings in a single bound for Zack Snyder’s Superman reboot. And though word is that Snyder will be focusing on the earlier part of Superman’s career, Armie Hammer confessed that, though he was interested in the part, what he was hearing was that they were going older. In the 35, 40 year old range.

The obvious first thought for every one on the planet, of course, was “Mad Men’s” Jon Hamm, who would make a fine choice as Superman … in someone else’s version. I don’t really see Jon Hamm shacking up with Zack Snyder for a film, do you? Strange bedfellows. Hamm is an actor. Snyder is a maestro with the computer imagery who has a tin ear when it comes to choosing songs for his soundtrack. It could certainly happen, but I’d personally prefer that Hamm stay out of the superhero universe. He’s got a long dramatic career ahead of him, and I’d hate being the guy who played Superman to pigeonhole him out of a lot of parts.

But, 35 to 40? Kyle Chandler? Nah, too fatherly. Woody Harrelson is closer to 50, but he could be fun. Affleck? No. RDJ. Taken. Gosling, not old enough, doesn’t have the presence. Gerard Butler? Please no. Renner? Maybe.

But then I had a flash of brilliance. My dream choice would never happen, of course, because he’s not marketable to the Twilight audience. Or even the 300 audience. But he’s around the right age. And this movie is produced by Christopher Nolan, who does like to go dark and gritty. I’d like to see a tortured guy, who could also turn Superman into a real bad ass, a menacing guy who actually has to grapple with his own dark side, with what his massive superpowers give him. He’s got the physique, though he’s nothing like any other Superman you’ve ever known. But maybe that’s a good thing. Maybe after 75 years of the stereotypical Superman model, it’s time to go in a different direction — something less Americana, less Eisenhower, less Kansas farm boy, more Baltimore gangster.

I’m thinking a Superman that can fuck you up. A Superman that can destroy you. I’m thinking: Michael Kenneth Williams.

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Comments

Jon Hamm is younger than 35? He looks 40 to me.

Posted by: PaddyDog at October 21, 2010 11:06 AM

They'd never go for it.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at October 21, 2010 11:11 AM

I love the look of consternation on Hamm's face in the photo. I'm not comic book literate, but wouldn't he be a better Captain America?

Why does everything have to be bad ass, retooled and "Xtreem" these days? Even gum has an attitude and new flavours promising to alternately scald or supercool my mouth.

Despite the temporary allure of hearing people say "Superman comin'", it would be sadly disappointing that we wouldn't get to hear Williams say "motherf*cker" as that would make the censors and Man of Steel fans clutch their pearls.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at October 21, 2010 11:14 AM

I would pay to see that in 3D!

Posted by: Magiel at October 21, 2010 11:16 AM

Jon Hamm is 39. Even still, he looks like the golden age Superman who was an adult, not some stupid kid. I would watch him duck a pistol any day.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter who plays Supes as long as the danger he is up against isn't three thugs who kick the shit out of him because they have Kryptonite. There is a reason that one of the major storylines in Superman comics way back when (80s I think) was his searching out all the Kryptonite and getting, fucking, rid of it. Once you do that, then you can have Doomsday, Zod, Mongul, Darkseid, enemies that are actually powerful enough to fight Superman. Of course, Zack Snyder et al will not be brave enough to do any of that. Just sayin'.

-- you have been enjoying Just Sayin' with professor_love, comic book geek

Posted by: professor_love at October 21, 2010 11:16 AM

Don’t get me wrong I think Jon Hamm is a wonderful actor, but I don’t want to see my Superman smoking a cigarette and enjoying a nice brandy at the end of the day.

Posted by: Pookie at October 21, 2010 11:21 AM

if you put john hamm through months on top of months of brutal physical training and boot camp, he could easily look the part and do the dark, gritty, possibly controversial superman personality

Posted by: Taylor Kozakar at October 21, 2010 11:21 AM

That's it. Re-open my "Donald Glover for Spider-Man" wounds. Mmmm the pain helps me feel alive.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at October 21, 2010 11:25 AM

Taylor is right. Hamm can do it. The more I watch Mad Men the more impressive his acting becomes.

Except isn't John Hamm too good an actor for this kind of thing? Yes, yes, I know, shh, shh, I hear you. RDJ is a very good actor, but what Ironman really floats on is his charisma and insouciance. Ironman is a movie star. Superman is a different creature. Do people really want a post modern Superman? Really?

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at October 21, 2010 11:29 AM

Uhh, Jon Hamm is in Sucker Punch, Snyder's next movie.

/justgottold

Posted by: aidan at October 21, 2010 11:29 AM

Woody Harrelson is closer to 50, but he could be fun.

Rendering anything else you might say invalid.

And there's nothing wrong with the "Watchmen" soundtrack. Jeeeeez! It never ends around here.

TK, please tell Mr. Rowles who Superman is. You were supposed to keep him from doing this kind of thing.

Posted by: Jay at October 21, 2010 11:35 AM

Does anyone else think Hamm could be the next potential Clooney-type megastar?

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at October 21, 2010 11:38 AM

I'm sooooooo sick of origins stories and early career crap. I want to see my superheros at the peak of their powers doing what they do best.

Why can't we have a 30-40 something Superman, set in the 1940s or 50's, fighting crime, vintage style? I'd watch that.

Posted by: BWeaves at October 21, 2010 11:39 AM

I know this would NEVER happen, and he is a bit old for it, but I've always thought Bruce Campbell could be a good looking Superman.

Posted by: mswas at October 21, 2010 11:42 AM

Don't you remember Hamm did that Funny or Die video of Lex Luthor asking for a bailout back a couple of years ago?

FOUND IT!

As for casting a 35-40 year old Superman, what about Karl Urban? He's got the physique and although I think he's not in the age range, he certainly can play a more adult version of Superman than seen before.

Posted by: Fredo at October 21, 2010 11:42 AM

The problem with Superman-as-Kansas-Farmboy is that there's not a lot of complexity in someone who never questions where the line between right and wrong lies. This is good, that is bad, I beat up baddies, boom. Game over.

But, that being said, I don't think Superman has to be some sort of Dark Knight with better pecs and a Kryptonite problem. People with good childhoods and strong character grow up all the time into those who struggle with moral ambiguity. That story could be interesting. Superman doesn't have to grapple with his own dark side, but how he deals with defining dark versus light holds promise.


Posted by: Wednesday at October 21, 2010 11:49 AM

BWeaves just said what I've been trying to say. Only she said it clearly and succinctly.

Posted by: Mrs. Julien at October 21, 2010 11:49 AM

@Fredo, Thanks that was awesome. I'm now dreaming of Omar Vs Don, which is a happy place indeed.

Posted by: captainfireypants at October 21, 2010 11:54 AM

"As for casting a 35-40 year old Superman, what about Karl Urban?"

You might be onto something there, varmint. And waht ABOUT Affleck? He's matured, lost the frat boy smirk, and he's got the right head configuration.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at October 21, 2010 11:55 AM

Affleck would be a meta choice since he played George Reeves in "Hollywoodland."

A black Superman would be great if only for the red-faced frustration of certain people who want to scream, "BUT SUPERMAN IS WHITE, DAMMIT!" but can't because it's racist. The origin story would be much more interesting depending upon the time period chosen. For example, if he's an adult in the '50s, he would be horribly bullied and mistreated as a kid in the '30s which could shape some of his good/bad morality. Talk about revamping the mythology.

Posted by: Kballs at October 21, 2010 12:06 PM

Is there a once-per-week quota on pretending to not understand what Superman is about on Pajiba now?

Posted by: mightygodking at October 21, 2010 12:08 PM

taylor lautner would make an excellent superman... except u wouldnt be able to tell when he was using his vision powers because he is always sqinting

Posted by: superking at October 21, 2010 12:09 PM

Are any of the Superman Comics dark or gritty? I'm just saying, that while the movies don't appear to follow the comics at all, THAT much of a turn may be a little silly.

Posted by: admin at October 21, 2010 12:13 PM

Armmie Hamms would be a fine choice. Likes it alot!

Wasn't anyone going to address hiring this MKW guy though? I'm outta da
loop, so I had to go look him up. Just getting into Boardwalk Empire and
missed his recent blow-out performance. As for The Wire (and I know how
much many of you just loved that show), I watched the first half of the first
season on dvd quite some time back... and wasn't engaged by it at all. Meh.
He seems like a really strong actor though. Bring on the tough guy, hard edge,
black Superman. Looks good here. I'm no comic book nerd though... so what
would I know about really capturing the essence and all.

Posted by: Ms MoMo at October 21, 2010 12:15 PM

@admin - hell ya they gritty. i got one where these aliens come from space and eat peoples spines like they turn into huge monsters and eat their spines. then lex luthor (who is a redhaired bearded clone at this point) gets beaten in his karate class by this chick and hes so pissed he murders her after. he then throws her body in the dump where the aliens are. the aliens try to eat the girls dead spine and she comes back to life and shes like aaaaah oh shit. then she has powers to mind rape people and steal their personalities but the only way to retain it is to murder the originals. so thats what she does a bunch of times. this is after the death of superman so superman at this point is a grisly cyborg superman with a skeleton face.

Posted by: superking at October 21, 2010 12:16 PM

Fuck origins already!

Can't we just start off with a skyline shot of Metropolis, hear a big 'ole Michael Bay with Irritable Bowel Syndrome boom...and then cut to an established Big Blue doin' his thing?

We ALL know the back story...strange visitor from another world, the Last Son of Kypton, Man of Steel, Truth, Justice & the American Way.....we get it! Move on with it!

Just show that Supes has been in the city for say about five years now, and even so still has to work at balancing between being both the world's greatest hero and trying to be himself as Clark Kent. And then...so long as I'm dreaming, let's throw in a complication or two by anyone other than Lex Luthor or General Zod. Been there, done that. Pick something else. Metallo, Darkseid, The Parasite, Brainiac....take your pick. There's a pretty substantial Rogue Gallery.

And yeah, let's have an actor who isn't fresh off the covers of the glamor mags and who can actually put some character back into the character.

Someone like Snyder should know better. We didn't need half the movie in The Watchmen explaining the background of all the players. For most it was barely covered. It was almost as though we could follow the story with just a little bit of back story. Blue Nudist was about the only one with a real background origin shown and even so that was pretty much covered in about five minutes.

Look at Alex Ross's version of Superman. He doesn't look young or pretty, just strong and powerful and genuine just as a man with the power of a demi-god should look. Show me an actor who can convey that, and I won't care about his age.

Posted by: bleujayone at October 21, 2010 12:20 PM

Honestly, Kballs, I'd be against Michael Kenneth Williams because he just doesn't seem like Superman to me. Not because he's black. If you want to go that route, wouldn't Idris Elba be a much better pick?

I totally want Hamm. As Superman. Though, I'd be open to anything as long he's handing me a Scotch and wearing that Luthor bald cap.

However, this post does confound me a bit. Didn't TK inform us earlier this week that Snyder wanted to go "the early days" (not necessarily, explicitly "origin story") of Superman? I can't really see Hamm playing that version of Supes...

And Woody Harrelson? Really? Now you're just messing with us, Dustin.

Posted by: RobP at October 21, 2010 12:20 PM

Hmm... Woody Harrelson with a full head of black hair...

I just can't picture it.

Posted by: Todd at October 21, 2010 12:29 PM

RobP,

Yeah, any black actor with significant screen presence will do. I love me some Omar, but he's a little too small to sell it physically, no matter how large his persona looms.

Posted by: Kballs at October 21, 2010 1:09 PM

Am I the only one who thinks Jon Hamm is one of if not the weakest actor on Mad Men (of the leads, at least)? Including January Jones?

And I'd rather have an Armie Hammer Superman than Jon Hamm. Or Brandon Routh again for that matter.

Posted by: whatBENwatches at October 21, 2010 1:36 PM

I still have no idea why the guys who write the animated series aren't in charge of any superman live action movies yet. The last ep. for superman (the one involving Darksied) ended up being really dark and depressing.

Posted by: Vi at October 21, 2010 1:48 PM

Yeaaaaa Bawlmer.

Posted by: grace b at October 21, 2010 1:51 PM

Just been watching a few Firefly episodes and it strikes me Sean Maher is the right age and has the right looks too.

We know he can do awkward and clumsy, so Clark Kent shouldn't be a stretch. And unless he's let himself go, he's got the build for Superman.

Posted by: Simon at October 21, 2010 2:07 PM

No Omar for Superman.

He would make the most amazing Lex Luthor, however.

Oh, shit...now I am actually writing that in my head now.

Posted by: Sean at October 21, 2010 2:41 PM

That suit he's wearing is incredible!!

Posted by: Theseus at October 21, 2010 3:01 PM

They're going to go with Michael Fassbender.

Posted by: sailboat 'momentarily known as inertia creeps' at October 21, 2010 3:20 PM

Dreamcasting indeed.

I don't have a problem with a non-white actor playing Superman. I'm sure there are a lot of people that feel the same way.
But the studio would never do it. There is way too much money involved to take that risk. As good a risk as it might be.

You'd need a studio head that just doesn't give a f*ck.

Posted by: junierizzle at October 21, 2010 4:47 PM

I can't even place the face, but yes, Armie Hammer is his real name because he's the Arm & Hammer heir (Armand Hammer the Whatever Number).

Posted by: Jo 'Mama' Besser at October 21, 2010 5:45 PM

CTRL-F Idris Elba. Awesome.

He is slightly gritty (although I buy him as a CEO more than I do a drug dealer), and gorgeous.

He is so gorgeous, I think he could turn a few old-fashioned racists the right way. Lois might be complicated to cast though. They'd probably cast Eva Mendes. Ohoh, Kelly Hu?

Posted by: stump at October 21, 2010 7:05 PM

I should probably clarify, I'd love to see a white actress in the role, but I just don't think they'd cast it without a minority.

Posted by: stump at October 21, 2010 7:08 PM

Would anyone consider Eric Bana? Yes, I know he did that boring Hulk movie, but he's a solid actor with good charisma, and while he's a shade over 40, he looks younger than a lot of folk. I STILL do not get the Jon Hamm thing. I don't think he has the body. I don't think he has the look. Not really a Superman fan, but still.

Posted by: Samantha at October 21, 2010 7:22 PM

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMM!

I want to see him buffed up, covered in spandex, standing on top of a building and burning a hole through the screen.

Holy Godtopus. I'm gonna...go take a cold shower now.

Also: all you bitches CRAZY.

Posted by: figgy at October 21, 2010 7:23 PM

How do you grammatically convey a quivery exhaling swoon?

Because I look at Jon Hamm, and I start to behave not unlike how cats do when they rub themselves mindlessly against an ottoman.

He's a hockey fan, he's gorgeous, he's a great actor and he's happy to be a good sport on 30 Rock and SNL. A little blue suit with undies on the outside is not good enough for Jon Hamm. This man deserves silk tuxes spun by beautiful white-robed angels with heaving breasts.

Posted by: Laurie at October 21, 2010 9:02 PM

.."Superman Returns" screwed me royal. I have to work hard and collect many debts from my wife to get her to go to the movies and see anything I want to see...unfortunately I screwed up and took her to "Superman Returns", even I hated that boring retread movie. I have not been able to get her to see something I want since...
..There is a lack of big men in Hollywood (tall and wide), I think they would have to cast a relative unknown for the part, which imho would be a good idea, someone fresh.

Posted by: TrickyHD at October 22, 2010 12:10 AM

@TrickyHD, they did that Brandon Routh for Superman Returns. Personally, I'd still like to see him in the role, especially after his run on Chuck last year. If they want to make Superman more of a heavy and less emo, he definitely showed he can do that and do it well (and still be heroic). He did it with a more sarcastic twinkle in Scott Pilgrim, also. Routh is still my first choice.

But after him I'd take Hamm, or Bana, or Elba (I'm glad people liked that, I can totally see it). Simon's pick of Sean Maher definitely has me intrigued, though. I think that could work...

Wait! Simon, as in Simon Tam? Sean Maher, who played Simon Tam? Simon is Sean Maher! Well played, Mr. Maher.

Posted by: RobP at October 22, 2010 11:09 AM

Karl Urban is 38 (inspite of interviewers getting it wrong) so he's in the right age range. He's definitely got the acting chops to do a creditable 35-40 yr old Supes.

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