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Ridley Scott Pulling Harrison Ford into Blade Runner Sequel

By Steven Lloyd Wilson | Posted Under Trade News | Comments (27)



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What a difference the guy in charge makes to a film, huh? If Ridley Scott wasn’t the one making the followup to Blade Runner, then the news that Harrison Ford is in talks to be in the film would be met with a cacophony of derision.

Deckard was a replicant, we would argue, he was going to be dead just like Batty in less than a year, so now they’re going to retcon the whole thing so that geriatric Ford can nuke the fridge of another film’s corpse? Or maybe they’re going to say that he was a special replicant who was able to keep living and grow old. It was probably all those midichlorians, right?

But since Scott actually has talent and a stock pile of good will, the reaction is far more positive. Instead of spinning into the abyss of cynicism, we start thinking of ways instead that it could actually work. Maybe give it a minor retcon, say that certain models rapidly age as they approach their drop dead date, and set the film a mere week after the events of the original. Have Ford play the human character from whose DNA Deckard was originally based. Maybe Deckard finds a way around the drop dead date, but he’s legendary, a figure whom others search for. And the secret is that he managed to survive by not really living, the foil to Batty who has seen things we wouldn’t believe at the cost of long life.

Whatever Scott is planning on doing with Ford in the film, it just seems exciting. Of course then I remember Russell Crowe Robin Hooding it up, and I just get depressed again.









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Comments

Normally I'm a glass-half-full (or rather a glass-in-apparent-need-of-emptying) kinda gal, but there is no way this is going to end well.

Posted by: cinekat at February 6, 2012 10:17 AM

It was never stated clearly that Deckard is a replicant, so they could just ignore all of that for this film.

I do like the idea of setting the film shortly after the original and having Deckard age rapidly though.

Posted by: csb at February 6, 2012 10:46 AM

cinekat, mate, I've smashed the glass full-on into my face.

If this goes actually comes to fruition then the word Ridley must also become a verb.

Then, if ‘to Romney’ means to frolic with gaiety in a field full of dead puppies, ‘to Ridley’ will mean resurrecting a childhood dream in order to slap it to death again and leave a bloated, red-faced, ruined corpse.

Posted by: zeke the pig at February 6, 2012 10:49 AM

csb: Considering Ridley Scott has said that his intention was for Deckard to be a replicant and Blade Runner is one of his favorite/most personal films, I would be really surprised if they ignored that in a sequel. Essentially, from his perspective, doing that would alter the original.

Posted by: Gordon at February 6, 2012 11:29 AM

If Deckard is a replicant, it undermines the whole point of the film: That, in the end, the replicants have more compassion and humanity than humans themselves. If Deckard is a replicant, it all falls apart.

Posted by: Blake Shrapnel at February 6, 2012 11:39 AM

"Romney" already has a definition as a verb: To defecate in terror.
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Romney

I'm willing to accept your definition of "ridley" but it seems awful close to lucassing.

Posted by: Socrates_Johnson at February 6, 2012 11:48 AM

If Deckard is a replicant, it undermines the whole point of the film

I'll never stop saying this, I don't care what Ridley thinks. He's simply wrong.

Posted by: Jay at February 6, 2012 11:55 AM

@Blake Shrapnel and Jay

How so? Many stories deal with notion that those who are persecuted and enslaved will find more to appreciate and value in life than their jaded masters who take things for granted. Finding more humanity and compassion within machines built for servitude than within their creators isn't a surprising theme to find!

The fact that Deckard, though not aware of his true nature, and who started out as jaded and disinterested in his task as you would expect from one who had no personal stake in it, began to seek reason in his orders, and in the end, openly rebelled against them, is a solid theme and hardly destructive to the narrative.

In fact I always kinda took that as a principal point of the movie!

Posted by: MurderBot at February 6, 2012 12:10 PM

Why is this happening? What happened to original ideas? Can't Blade Runner, arguably the best sci-fi film of all time be left alone it's fine as it is.

Posted by: Alex at February 6, 2012 12:13 PM

@Jay
Because if Deckard is a replicant his transformation, as well as Roy's are "Profound, but technically meaningless". Deckard and Roy are simply sympathizing with and saving their own kind, not learning the value of life as a whole. Also It would mean that Roy has not let go of his anger and has not reached peace at the end of his life.

Posted by: Blake Shrapnel at February 6, 2012 12:24 PM

Sorry, I meant to direct that response to MurderBot

Posted by: Blake Shrapnel at February 6, 2012 12:29 PM

But Roy has no idea Deckard isn't human. His personal journey and that last act of mercy are pure, regardless of whatever Deckard turns out to be. That coupled with Rachel challenging the Voit-Kampf test past what had been previously been thought possible shows that empathy isn't beyond the reach of replicants. That they're capable of achieving humanity.

Posted by: MurderBot at February 6, 2012 12:34 PM

Spot on, MurderBot. That, imho, is actually the strength of the original film...what we call "humanity" isn't, in fact, solely a characteristic of mankind. Even a replicant, a manufactered being, can develop empathy...sometimes well beyond that of its creators.

Posted by: boscobarbell at February 6, 2012 12:47 PM

@MurderBot, Boscobarbell
Yes, but the converse of this is that Deckard's execution of of the replicant girl in the middle of the film shows that cruelty and (mostly) senseless violence are not solely replicant traits, but human as well. Up untill that point in the film, every act of violence has been committed by a replicant. Deckard's retirement of the girl, which verges on cold blooded murder, smashes our preconceptions about humans and replicants, and sets up the film's climax. This would be lost if Deckard was a replicant

Posted by: Blake Shrapnel at February 6, 2012 1:12 PM

the really good news is that if they're making a sequel then the Saturday morning cartoon series can't be far behind...

Posted by: Nick at February 6, 2012 1:12 PM

@Blake Shrapnel

But what it shows instead is a pattern of human behaviour possibly worse than direct violence. "Got a dirty job that needs taking care of, make a replicant do it!"

Posted by: MurderBot at February 6, 2012 1:18 PM

So would that be the reason Deckard couldn't go "off world" ? Because he is a replicant? ("can't touch this...")

How closely does Blade Runner follow the book it is based off of? I have never read it, so I have no clue.

Blade Runner is one of my favorite movies, if not my favorite. The idea of Ridley Scott making another film... after the director's cut, and the other director's cut, and then the box set where you can get them both, clear says he likes the film himself... quite a bit.

Posted by: MRod at February 6, 2012 1:19 PM

Have to disagree Blake Shrapnel - I think the central theme is more about self-knowledge and how that informs behavior. The line "how can it not know what it is" is echoed throughout the film. That Deckerd thinks he is human is what intially allows him to hunt his own kind. Rachel of course complicates his self-knowledge.

The poignancy of the film is that the Deckerd (and the audience) comes to see that the Voit-Kampf test is ultimately meaningless because, as Deckerd unravels the thin line between human and replicant, humanity isn't necessarily as reductive as being human.

Good lord I hope Sir Ridley doesn't ruin this. If he does, that will simply be further proof that this is the darkest timeline.

Posted by: Miss Laaw-yuhr at February 6, 2012 1:36 PM

The odds are too low. This will ruin a fantastic movie. Dammit, someone needs to stop Hollywood before they ruin every good thing they ever made.

Posted by: Haystacks at February 6, 2012 2:25 PM

I have very low hopes for this if Harrison Ford is attached. Your two ideas that would allow him to be a replicant still living in the film are not bad.

As for the debate here, if one of the points of the film is to imbue humanity with appreciation of life by way of machines that have attained an appreciation for life, thus essentially rendering them equivalent, then doesn't the question of whether Deckard is human or not become moot? We still learned the lesson over the course of the film because we thought he was human at the time. Making him a replicant is just a cool twist/reminder that in this universe it truly *doesn't* matter if he is human or not.

I myself like to think of him as a replicant, but I prefer the version of the film that leaves the question ambiguous (i.e., the unicorn dream is an o.k. coincidence, but replicant-glistening eyes are a little much). The ambiguity reiterates that the answer is not the point.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at February 6, 2012 2:39 PM

DarthCorleone has it right. The ending of the film is ambiguous, and that is intentional. If knowing the exact nature of Deckerd was necessary to the story and themes of the movie, we would have been told. Instead we are left uncertain, which reflects Deckerd's own uncertainty.

Posted by: Freller at February 6, 2012 3:01 PM

If Deckard is a replicant, then old Harrison Ford could be a different Deckard, or even a different character all together. They could have covered up his escape, and replaced him periodically with older models.

Posted by: John G. at February 6, 2012 3:20 PM

The real question is will they be able to score M Emmet Walsh.

Posted by: John G. at February 6, 2012 3:21 PM

I'm surprised you haven't reported on the other Harrison Ford related news. Please, allow me.

The long-awaited sequal to Air Force One is finally being released. President Marshall is back, but this time in space! After overturning the 22nd amendment and being elected to the presidency for the sixth straight term, our glorious benefactor President Marshall finally oversees humanity's expansion into the great beyond. We colonize the moon and harness the infinite power of the sun. But all is not peaceful in the Expanded Galactic Republic of Earthmerica. During our colonization of Mars, we exposed the native martians to too many diseases, nearly wiping them out entirely. And one fateful day, a militant martian corsair takes over the President's lunarch sub-light schooner and tries to fly it into the sun. Luckily for all aboard, and indeed for all of humanity (who will perish when the resulting gravo-gamma radiation from the ship's core reacts with the sun's fission beacon), President Marshall is on the scene. He uses his robotic cyber-enhancements and beats back the amorphous martian tyrant, saving himself, all of humanity, and most importantly Anna Maria his precious daughter (played by Megan Fox). It's going to be called Air Force Two: The Sequel and it's due to be released Christmas of 2013.

Harrison Ford: murdering his legacy one sequel at a time.

Posted by: superasente at February 6, 2012 4:58 PM

I can't wait to get married...so I can stop panicking about getting married and start panicking about this. Blade Runner is my favorite movie, and this news fills me with dread and hopelessness.

Posted by: Angeleno Ewok at February 6, 2012 7:31 PM

I thought only Nexus-6 models had the truly limited lifespan due to them being supermen. Tyrell hints that lower models of replicants sometimes come to him and he can remove the limits on their lifespan. I've always assumed Deckard was one of these.

Posted by: Daniel at February 6, 2012 11:29 PM

It's been a while since I've read the book, MRod, so I could be TOTALLY wrong, but if I remember correctly:

In the book "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" Deckard is unequivocally a human and The replicants are undoubtedly villainous. The replicants try and convince Deckard otherwise to turn him against the police. When that doesn't work the replicant's manipulation helps him realize the way he had been living lives made him no less android/automaton then they are in that he just lives a meaningless, joyless, unsatisfying life.

It is also implied that the replicants are inherently machine and could not be free even if the wished so. They are by their very nature the "system" even in rebelling against it. And despite our projection of human emotions onto them, due to their human appearance they could never be anything more than souless "just-following-orders machines. But Deckard could choose otherwise, his imperfections, sins, and neurosis made him truly human, which made him superior. Or something like that.

I think it reflected Phillip K. Dick's sense of anti-authoritarianism, technophobia, and paranoia.

The movie at least the originally intended "Directors Cut" definitely takes the complete opposite approach. I swear I remember reading how much P.K.D. said he disliked the film, then supposedly right before the movie was released he gave the movie his deathbed blessing. This makes sense if you assume he was originally shown the Director's Cut and then finally watched the theatrical release where Deckard is, at least ambiguously, re-humanized.

Posted by: Darth Darko at February 8, 2012 1:02 AM