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Bombing Starts at Sundance

By Steven Lloyd Wilson | Posted Under Trade News | Comments (11)



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Kevin Smith’s horror film Red State wrapped on Friday and he is aiming for an initial release at the Sundance film festival in January. Smith took the novel approach this time of editing the film each day after filming so that by the time the 25 day shoot wrapped, he was able to screen the first cut of the finished film for cast and crew at the wrap party. Smith also confirmed that since he was able to raise the money for the production ($4 million) through independent investors who expect that they’ll easily make the money back on DVD no matter what happens theatrically given Smith’s name, that he’s looking at nontraditional release options.

There are a couple points here. First, I assume that the independent investors are the Mafia, because that’s the only other thing I know about New Jersey other than what Smith has told me in his films. Second, “nontraditional” means that he’s going into Sundance without a distributor and hopes to pick one up there. But since he’s saying that he’s exploring “nontraditional” options, then if the film is panned and/or he can’t get a distributor, he can fall back on ripping on the man and insisting that this was why he never really wanted a distributor in the first place.

Smith did release this first poster:

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Smith had this to say about it:

Moody, weird, and pitch-perfect for the tone of the film. If I went out to an ad agency here in town, I’d be billed close to 20 grand for a campaign that’d maybe… maybe… include this poster. But this piece of artwork (I call it “The Holy Ghost”) didn’t come from a top-tier ad agency: Jon Gordon is my RED STATE producer, and this poster was created by his assistant, Melissa Bloom. So we’ve got a marketing image that was put together by someone who was on set every day, integral to the process that produced the film which inspired this image… The marketer is actually family, RED from pre-production all the way through wrap, so she’s got an insight into the flick that no ad agency could ever boast (not even one-time Glo-Coat golden boy Don Draper over at SCDP). I’ll take passion over pedigree any day…So Melissa (with a Gretzky-like assist by Ming), the person on the RED STATE crew least likely to spearhead our marketing campaign, gets the collar for this arresting image - and I fucking dig that.

That’s actually a great little story, but also has the effect of feeling like Smith is trying really really hard to convince us that he’s totally independent and cleansed of his studio budget ways. Fair enough, but in the end the film’s got to hold that up, because after Cop Out … damn is that a lot of goodwill to make back.









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“There are a couple points here. First, I assume that the independent investors are the Mafia, because that’s the only other thing I know about New Jersey other than what Smith has told me in his films. Second, “nontraditional” means that he’s going into Sundance without a distributor and hopes to pick one up there. But since he’s saying that he’s exploring “nontraditional” options, then if the film is panned and/or he can’t get a distributor, he can fall back on ripping on the man and insisting that this was why he never really wanted a distributor in the first place.”

You just about got it right Steven, but let me clean it up for you.

The motherfucka couldn’t play the man against the machine card any longer so now he has to fly his ass out to Sundance on his own dime and suck some studio dick to get a distribution deal. Though he wants to come off as a rebel or an outsider, this dvd hawking somanabitch has never been either. The long con is up for this bearded confidence man. Now his ass has got to start making good movies.

Posted by: Pookie at November 1, 2010 10:28 AM

Retired Extremely Dangerous State?

That would be Florida.

Posted by: , at November 1, 2010 10:46 AM

Finally watched Cop Out after much soul-searching. Damn, but that is an embarrassing movie for a dedicated filmmaker.

Thirty years from now Smith is going to still have involuntary flashback cringes thinking, "Did I really do that movie? What a fucking asshole I was back then."

Even if this movie is pure shit, I hope at least Smith returns to form. And that he starts eating salad and doing P90X or something. Boy's a bit hefty.

Posted by: Neodiogenes at November 1, 2010 11:07 AM

If nothing else Red State has an interesting cast. John Goodman, Melissa Leo, Michael Parkes, Kevin Pollack, there's not a traditional View Askewer in the list. I'm pulling for the big guy, I'm hoping this one is great. I dig the poster too. It's a simple design but the scratches and distress really make it look creepy. Has a 70's horror look to it.

I have too much love for Willis and Kev to ever watch Cop-Out.

Posted by: TylerDFC at November 1, 2010 11:23 AM

Feels like Smith is channeling Robert Rodriguez with the low budget, slapped together editing, everyone wears multiple hats, gorilla-filmmaking-with-name-filmmakers thing.

I like it. It keeps things interesting. I think the key to anticipating and receiving a film like this is to have little to no expectations going in. It probably won't be great, it may not even be good, but at least it will be interesting. Even if it is bad it will be interesting to see how it turns out.

So I am going to give it two hours of my time. Smith has earned that much based on the hundreds of hours I've spent watching and re-watching and talking about his other movies.

Even if you guys hate it, even if Dan Carlson points out a multitude of legitimate flaws and failings, at least we can take comfort that it is not Saw 3D. Fuck Saw 3D. Red State for the win by default.

Posted by: Yossarian at November 1, 2010 11:31 AM

I keep saying this about Kevin Smith: don't underestimate his hardcore fans. It's zealotry at its finest. They will do anything for him. He has a larger than you think, more fanatical than you can imagine following. I guess what I'm trying to say is that if Cop Out didn't drive them away, nothing will.

Posted by: Az at November 1, 2010 11:35 AM

It is amazing that you guys are giving this guy a pass, this is not little league where everybody is a fucking winner.

Posted by: Pookie at November 1, 2010 11:38 AM

I like Kevin Smith. I saw him speak to a sold out crowd at Carnegie Hall for 3 hours and he cracked us up the whole time. His weekly smodcast is very funny, and while not every one of them is comedy gold, there are enough of them that are flat out hilarious, and that keeps me coming back. I like him for his dialogue in his movies. True, no one in real life talks like the characters in a Kevin Smith movie, but I find it entertaining.

Like TylerDFC said above, the cast for Red State looks good, and I am looking forward to seeing it.

Posted by: JFD at November 1, 2010 2:58 PM

How did I miss this: "gorilla-filmmaking-with-name-filmmakers"? It's wonderful!

Posted by: Az at November 1, 2010 7:44 PM

I haven't loved a Kevin Smith flick since "Dogma," so I really hope this one is great. I'm tired of being disappointed with each subsequent effort from one of my fave filmmakers.

Posted by: Lou at November 1, 2010 8:26 PM

Hhmm.. I don't know... The story sounds good but I'm still a little worried..

Posted by: Sarah Barkai at November 2, 2010 3:27 AM