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Unhappy Is the Land That Needs Heroes

By Steven Lloyd Wilson | Posted Under Trade News | Comments (13)

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What’s worse than a show answering compelling mysteries with more mysteries until the frustrated viewers lose all faith? When a show answers compelling mysteries with really shitty answers and then introduces contrived new mysteries that depend on the characters being abysmal idiots. “Heroes” started out its run very well, before petering out with a letdown of a finale that had been built up the entire first season.

Still, the second season was highly anticipated … and when it sucked we blamed it on the writer’s strike. The third season? That’s when everyone started randomly switching sides and the best characters were neutered repeatedly by plot contrivances to give them obstacles to overcome. The fourth? That’s just better left completely ignored. And now they want to make a miniseries? Well, to be exact, Tim Kring says he wants to make a miniseries and NBC hasn’t said word one about it. Which means in all probability that Tim Kring really wants to make the miniseries and NBC doesn’t want to touch that ratings black hole money suck with a ten foot pole. Maybe he should make Claire a figure skater. That’s the key to Zucker’s wallet.

At this point, I’d rather that Tim Kring go back and give “Crossing Jordan” the proper send off it never received instead of rehashing poor man’s X-Men for another few hours.

(source: TV Guide)









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Comments

But...but...I want to know if Sylar's redemption arc really took this time! Surely the 487th time's the charm!

Posted by: Bothari at June 7, 2010 10:18 AM

The gulf coast needs more Heroes like it needs more Deep Horizon oil spills.

Posted by: RobP at June 7, 2010 10:30 AM

Tim, can I call you Tim...

Tim, I ask nicely because I own the first season of Heroes on DVD and really enjoyed your early product, even with the really slow episodes of Mohinder having his Daddy issues, but just go away. You have committed a great sin in the Hindu world by killing the cash cow. Had you hired a decent writing staff (and borrowed more heavily but not too obviously from other X-men plotlines) you might have been able to sustain Heroes.

But you didn't. Welcome to the Days of a Future Past.

Posted by: bignick at June 7, 2010 10:35 AM

Well fuck you all. I really wouldn't mind a miniseries. They left the ending of last season (which was pretty good) wide the fuck open. I'd kind of like to know what happened to some of the characters. Especially because they brought on a wonderfully sadistic and powerful mutant in the form of Samuel. The actor playing him, Robert Knepper, was a delight.

I'd also like to know what happens to Hiro and Sylar in both of their arcs. Really, just any excuse to see Zachary Quinto play dark is good enough for me.

Plus, they could always do some Hayden Panettiere bisexual threesome. That should bring in the ratings. No one actually cared about her character or what she was doing...they just hoped she would wear something skimpy while doing it.

Posted by: DeistBrawler at June 7, 2010 10:50 AM

@DeistBrawler: Thanks for revealing your obsession with midget porn.

Robert Knepper's a great actor, but they gave him a shit character. Sylar going dark...again...what a treat...can you hear my enthusiasm? Hiro....acting like a grown child....again....can you still hear the enthusiasm?

Posted by: bignick at June 7, 2010 10:54 AM

ZOMG! they need to renew Heroes for THREE MORE SEASONS (that i won't watch)!!!1!

Posted by: gp at June 7, 2010 10:57 AM

When a show answers compelling mysteries with really shitty answers and then introduces contrived new mysteries that depend on the characters being abysmal idiots.

I thought we were done talking about Lost.

Posted by: Fredo at June 7, 2010 11:15 AM

I'm all for a miniseries to wrap up the turd that was the finale, but after reading what Tim K. is considering, I don't know if it's such a good idea.

In Kring's planned TV movie or mini-series, Claire will become a spokesperson for the super-powered, something she's not exactly happy about it. Sylar (Zachary Quinto) will battle his desire to do evil, while Adrian Pasdar is likely return, but not as Nathan.

This is the exact same shit they were doing when the show was canceled. I don't want to watch Claire bitch about being normal again, I don't want to see Sylar waffle about being good and evil again, and for fuck's sake, Nathan is dead. Dead, dead, fucking dead in the ground. Just let him stay dead! Don't resurrect him in any more bullshit ways!

If they had another writer doing this, I would be more supportive. I don't see this getting decent publicity at all. Not to mention half the cast is going to do other things and none of them are contractually obligated to come back. I think the chances of this happening are 25% at best.

Posted by: Brie at June 7, 2010 11:29 AM

@bignick

Well...considering Hiro was dying and Sylar actually seemed to want to go good this time and not just because he was brainwashed...yeah...I thought it would be a little different.

And Hayden is 5'1"...that hardly qualifies as midget.

Posted by: DeistBrawler at June 7, 2010 11:31 AM

@DeistBrawler

I'm 6'6". She's a honorary Hobbit as far as I'm concerned. As for Hiro dying, that'd be a wonderful excuse...except he's acting like a man-child since the beginning of season two.

Sylar wants to do good...that's called neutering your villain. You either kill the villain or keep him a villain and bring him back later. Anytime you make the villain the hero, it's always to lead them back to being the villain.

Thank you for playing but all your base belong to us.

Posted by: bignick at June 7, 2010 2:02 PM

I'm 6'4"...that statement meant shit to me.

Neutering your villain isn't necessarily to bring them back. It might just be...in the case of Samuel...to bring in a villain more evil than them. Therefore allowing them to "redeem" themselves in the end. I don't know where you got the notion that "it's always to lead them back to being the villain." There have been numerous films (for some reason Pitch Black sprung to mind) where the villain, while never becoming wholly good, can still be a hero.

As for Hiro...this last season I didn't really see him playing any sort of man-child. In fact if anything he seriously matured. Gone were his petty tales of comic books and damsels in distress. Instead he did everything for what he deemed to be a greater good. Except for that whole not being able to speak in normal sentences streak, that was a little annoying.

Posted by: DeistBrawler at June 7, 2010 2:42 PM

By the way, if this counts as midget porn...

Natalie Portman 5'3"
Christina Ricci 5'1"
Kristen Bell 5'1"
Mila Kunis 5'3"
Kristin Kreuk 5'4"
Megan Fox 5'4"
Amanda Seyfried 5'3"
Scarlett Johansson 5'4"
Elisha Cuthbert 5'2"

...I'll gladly watch.

Posted by: DeistBrawler at June 7, 2010 3:11 PM

As for Hiro...this last season I didn't really see him playing any sort of man-child. In fact if anything he seriously matured. Gone were his petty tales of comic books and damsels in distress. Instead he did everything for what he deemed to be a greater good. Except for that whole not being able to speak in normal sentences streak, that was a little annoying.

I have to disagree. After the first season, the majority of Hiro's actions were self-serving. Even in the fourth season, he went back to get Charlie because he wanted them to have their "happily ever after." After she was taken back in time and he found her in the present day (aged to about 80 years) he was going to go back in time again and manipulate things, despite the fact that Charlie was happy with the way her life had gone. It was Ando that made him understand the harm it would do.
All of Hiro's time travel drastically changed things in the present and he didn't care because he was always on some bullshit "mission." Truth be told, he never grew up.

Sylar wants to do good...that's called neutering your villain. You either kill the villain or keep him a villain and bring him back later.
Although I preferred Sylar as a villain, I thought his transition to a good guy was the most logical step he could take. Frankly, as a villain, he was quite limited in his motivation. He took powers because he wanted to be special. (Although they flipped the script and said it was because he craved powers. Whatever.) The man could only scalp so many people before he got boring. I can live with them making him into a good guy, but he did the whole "battling with his evil side" twice already in the series. Focusing on that for the potential miniseries is just a waste of time.

Posted by: Brie at June 7, 2010 3:30 PM