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News from the "Fringe"

By Steven Lloyd Wilson | Posted Under Trade News | Comments (17)



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Look, I loved “Fringe” from the very first episode. The first season geared up slowly as an “X-Files” light until knocking it out of the park in the second season with John Noble taking center stage. The third season waned, came back strong now and then with a brilliant episode, but managed to have some terrifyingly bad episodes there, especially towards the end. There’s a difference between a stand alone bad episode and a bad episode that is bad because it takes the larger myth arc of the series is a bad direction. We all know where soul magnets land in that typology. Of course, the series ratcheted the quality back up for that finale, leaving viewers in that perfect off-season state of double checking when exactly the show comes back so that they can get some resolution and relief.

Well, producers Jeff Pinkner and Joel Wyman want to deflate that a little bit, saying:

“We’ve had a lot of people say ‘We love the promos; we want to figure out time to watch’, but not everyone has time to sit down and watch [three full] seasons, so we tried to make this [fourth] season like a new pilot. We did that a little bit last season, too, but it will just be an entry point for people to come in who haven’t seen everything.”

No, no, and let me check what else I had … that’s right, no. I get that from a business side you sort of want to make the series accessible without requiring a graduate course in order to get up to speed. I also think that the producers of the show should have the confidence of their work in order to say “our show is fucking awesome, it’s so awesome that you can’t just pick it up, you need to go get the first three seasons of DVDs.” You know what that’s called? Sales. If you’ve got a show that requires viewers to watch the first three seasons before the fourth, that’s a business opportunity, not something to be explained away.

That’s without even getting into the inexplicable pissing in the general direction of your fan base. Gosh, I just bought the fourth book of A Song of Ice and Fire, but it seems like so much work to read the first three books. Can someone just tell me what happened so I don’t have to? John Noble, sweet Walter himself, sees it my way, in case I need to call to a higher authority, as if you are not convinced by my simple and obvious correctness:

“I don’t know why they’re saying that. We have a mythology now that needs to be unraveled a little bit for new viewers. I defy people to come in at the end of season three and understand—they might find it really interesting, but to understand it might be hard. So we need to unravel some of that mythology a bit, and I think that might be what they mean—give it a restart, from the same place, but for example without Peter or that intangible Peter, and we have to retell some of the story.”

I just hope that there’s a place for Gene the wonder cow in the new combined universe. I am convinced that he is the key to all the mysteries.

(source: Blastr)









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Comments

I just hope that there’s a place for Gene the wonder cow in the new combined universe. I am convinced that he is the key to all the mysteries.

Gene is a lady cow. She has udders and Walter milks her, ergo: lady cow.

Posted by: Scully at June 30, 2011 10:19 AM

Now that I got *that* out of the way, I have to say that what the producers had to say is disheartening. I like it when a show makes me work. The best shows are those that a viewer gets invested in: Twin Peaks, X-Files, Battlestar Galactica, Lost, The Wire, etc. Sure, I watch some fun stuff which does not require much brain activity (Bones) but the shows that stay with me, those for which I eagerly await each new episode, are the shows that require commitment.

If I remember correctly, JJ said the same thing about Alias. After a couple of seasons he wanted to make it more accessible to new viewers. And it really cheapened the show: chunky dialogue, awkward exposition, weak plots. Maybe Pinkner and Wyman are following orders from JJ.

Posted by: Scully at June 30, 2011 10:27 AM

I love this site, but sometimes you guys complain about bullshit. No one cares about continuitywonks, especially no one who wants to make money or even people who simply have a life.

Posted by: Sharif at June 30, 2011 10:29 AM

One man's bullshit is another man's fertilizer.

Posted by: RobP at June 30, 2011 10:36 AM

JJ is not that great when it comes to keeping storylines alive. By that i mean, he is constantly watering down his own work, not letting it take the twists and turns that are organic, wild, compelling. Rather, he tries to domesticate it to make it palatable to a wider and wider audience. Such is the dilemma for any artist who makes their paycheck on their work. Sometimes, the difference is as stark as between an aurochs and a Guernsey.

Posted by: Matty at June 30, 2011 10:38 AM

The "have a life" argument for people not willing to take the time to enjoy a larger mythology is ridiculous on its face. You could point to those who enjoy opera or ballet and note that "I don't have time - I have a life!" and sound like a fool for not taking the time to appreciate quality entertainment. The same goes with the dense mythology of "GOT" or "Fringe". You're too impatient to understand a dense story and that's fine. Don't make it seem like those who have the patience somehow don't "have a life".

Posted by: J Byrd at June 30, 2011 10:39 AM

"No one cares about continuitywonks..."

Well, SOMEBODY cares. Or else there would be no [insert name of a great show here].

Posted by: Scully at June 30, 2011 10:46 AM

God fucking damn it.

Posted by: Paul Southworth at June 30, 2011 10:47 AM

I didn't have time to read your comment, J Byrd. I have a life!

Posted by: Paul Southworth at June 30, 2011 10:47 AM

It's amusing when people say they don't have time to figure out the "mythology" of a network TV show. It's not like most of them are all that complex.

And people find plenty of time (unfortunately) to watch seemingly endless episodes of dancing shows and singing shows and reality shit, plus updating their all-important Facebook pages, because that's super fucking crucial to daily life now, to make sure that everybody knows you just went to the store, or your personal take on the Casey Anthony trial.

If you just don't want to bother watching a show, just don't watch it. But don't start watching it two seasons in and then bitch that it's too complicated for you. Just admit that you are very lazy or very stupid. Or both.

Posted by: Slash at June 30, 2011 10:56 AM

Scully, not that I'm an expert in bovine matters,
the term "lady cow" is redundant, in that a cow if a female bovine.

COW
–noun, plural cows, ( Archaic ) kine.
1. the mature female of a bovine animal, especially of the genus Bos.

If you meant to use lady as a descriptive, what kind of lady allow her breasts to be fondled in public?

Posted by: Halesonearth at June 30, 2011 11:02 AM

I have hope that they'll some day make Fringe into a Sliders remake. Just for one season, maybe, and then they come back to their own reality.

Posted by: zito at June 30, 2011 11:10 AM

"what kind of lady allow her breasts to be fondled in public?"

The udderly shameless ones.

/badum-CHING
//lowers head in shame

Posted by: Scully at June 30, 2011 11:21 AM

I only recently finished watching season 2, and it took me a couple of minutes to remember how that ended. I loved the first season, but was bored by much of the second. Thankfully it picked up a bit towards the end, but I don't have high hopes for the third. I'll give it a go eventually I guess.

Posted by: Carrie at June 30, 2011 11:49 AM

Scully,
Puns leave a funny taste in my mouth

Why?

Becud.

Signed,
Bessie

Posted by: Halesonearth at June 30, 2011 12:32 PM

I have a bad feeling about this.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at June 30, 2011 12:49 PM

i just hope Lincoln gets more screentime, that dude's kinda of awesome.

Posted by: sailboat at June 30, 2011 1:24 PM