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Is This the Next Snake Plissken?

By TK | Posted Under Trade News | Comments (17)



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Have I mentioned that I’m a big John Carpenter fan? No? Well, I am. Kind of a psychotic one, actually (note: strictly pre-Escape From LA, though we’ll see what happens with The Ward). I’m also rather anti-reborquel, which is why the pending remakes of The Thing and Escape From New York make me grind my teeth flat and cause a seething hot ball of anger boil up in my brain. The more I think about it, the more pissed off I get.

But it’s happening. They both are. Whether I like it or not, whether I bitch about it or not. This doesn’t mean, mind you, that I won’t bitch.

Anyway, the remake of Escape from New York, the Carpenter cult classic about Snake Plissken, an imprisoned former soldier tasked with entering the ruined prison colony/wasteland that once was New York City to rescue the President, is today’s subject. It’s being directed by Breck Eisner, who recently directed the unremarkable remake of Romero’s The Crazies, and who is also responsible for inflicting the dreadful Sahara on us. However, he’s about a billion steps up from Brett Ratner, who was one of the early choices to Ratnerfuck the remake.

Eisner recently spoke to a few different outlets about the new draft (written by Allen Loeb), and some casting possibilities, and here’s what we know so far:

The news that was previously reported (via Vulture) is that it’s not going to be the same ravaged, wrecked Manhattan that it was in the 1981 version, but rather a city that is “geographically undesirable, but intact: This Manhattan was evacuated and turned into a privately run penal colony after the detonation of a crude radioactive dirty bomb on the outskirts of the city.” OK. That’s leaning a bit towards Neil Marshall’s Doomsday, but whatever.

Now, the news comes from ComingSoon that he’s also bringing in a new writer to take a crack at Loeb’s script (which itself is a rewrite). Esiner had this to say:

“The interesting thing about ‘Escape from New York’ is that it was a comment on the urban decay and the suburban flight coming out of the ’70s and early ’80s. Conceptually, it’s an idea that’s not true today because of the world we live in. So, how the prison is created is going to be different than in Carpenter’s version. The anxiety of the world and anxiety of our existence post-9/11 is there, especially the anxiety in Manhattan post-9/11. Plot-wise, they’re different, emotionally they’re very similar. That’s why it’ll be interesting to tackle this movie, to have a slightly different take but with the same results which is Manhattan is turned into a walled prison.”

The whole “plot-wise, they’re different” bit annoys me. Whenever that happens with remakes, I can’t help but thinking, “then just make a different movie.” It’s just cashing in on the name (although the average person probably hasn’t even seen Escape, but whatever). Regardless, the “post 9/11” buzzword was almost inevitable — you can’t base an action movie in NYC these days without it coming into play somehow.

Finally, casting: This one is nothing but rumor/conjecture, but it’s a doozy, and one that if it happened, I’d find myself skipping in a circle. Timothy Olyphant. He starred in Eisner’s The Crazies, but most of us know and love him from HBO’s “Deadwood,” where he established himself as an excellent actor and a genuine bad motherfucker (personally, I first dug him in Go and The Girl Next Door, a guilty pleasure of mine). I have to say, if you’re bandying about names, you could do far worse than Seth Bullock. Eisner had this to say about the prospect when he recently spoke to Movieweb:

“Creatively, he would be great for it. We have not yet discussed internally within the studio who will play Snake Plissken. There are many factors that go into those discussions. First and foremost, obviously, is the creative one. We can’t make the movie unless we get the perfect Snake Plissken, and that’s a tall order. There are very few guys that could do it. He would definitely be one of the guys who could. There is no question about that.”

So, something of a pipe dream. But a damn fine one, and better than the original choice of Gerard Butler. We’ll keep you posted as we learn more, and as I try not to punch kittens in frustration.









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Comments

I thought Escape From L.A. essentially WAS a remake of Escape From New York! So what's the point of this, then?

Also, this reminds me, I need a dose of liquid Satan. So, thank you for that, anyway.

Posted by: Anna von Beaverplatz at June 24, 2010 9:33 AM

I like Olyphant, I don't particularly like the concept behind this remake.

Also, start punching those kittens, TK. Eventually they'll grow into cats and murder you so it's really just a question of self preservation.

Posted by: admin at June 24, 2010 9:45 AM

This is how you start my day? Fucking hell. EfNY is one of the most badass cult movies ever, and nobody but Kurt Russell will EVER be Snake Plissken (I thought you were dead).

And what's up with this asshat's notion that urban decay doesn't exist any more? Sure there's revitalization, but it's no utopia out there. Hell, he could have spun it as a failure of the lending market leading to rampant downtown foreclosures and consequent anarchy while the poor barricade themselves into their homes. I'd have bought that, but still raising the "post 9/11" banner 9 YEARS LATER (and undoubtedly the movie will still take another two years to see the light of day)?

Fuck. I need whiskey.

Posted by: ahamos at June 24, 2010 9:51 AM

There's just no need for this to be remade, but since we all know that already, there's nothing to be done but to stoically ignore the news. I like Olyphant just fine, and admittedly, he might be able to fill the role well, but WHAT IS THE POINT? Can't they just remake the frakked up movies and leave the classics alone?

Posted by: Cindy at June 24, 2010 10:04 AM

But is he short enough to play Snake?

Does " I thought you'd be taller" work for a 6 footer?

Posted by: Wembley at June 24, 2010 10:16 AM

Cindy, of course it has to be remade. It hasn't been seen on a big screen in nigh onto 30 years. Kids still want to get out of the house and go to the movies. They want to see action pictures, and they have heard their parents, (and grandparents), talk about how great the original was. So, ready-made box office.

It isn't like this is a new phenomenon. "The Maltese Falcon"? The classic with Bogie? Third version. "The Ten Commandments" was made twice, both by C.B. Demille. The first was silent, the second was sound.

Look for a lot of remakes in the coming years since the scourge of 3D seems to be upon us.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

-Ralphie

Posted by: Ralphie at June 24, 2010 10:18 AM

They should go with Rhona Mitra, who basically played the role in the afore-mentioned, Doomsday, or Carlos Bernard (Tony from 24)

Posted by: atorus at June 24, 2010 10:36 AM

LOOOOOVE anything having to do with Olyphant. Think he'd made a great SNAAAAAAAKE.

By the way, anyone watch Justified? Jesus, I love that show and the writers? They know their audience...they've been having a mini-Deadwood reunion, with W. Earl Brown (Dan Dority), Sean Bridgers (Johnny Burns) and Ray McKinnon (Rev. Smith) showing up in some of the later episodes. May be as close as we ever get to that "movie" we were promised.

Posted by: dammitjanet at June 24, 2010 11:19 AM

What's with all the Sahara hate? It did what it said on the tin, and if you're a Cussler reader, you know that he's breezy and light, just like his adaptations.

Is it a great movie? No. Was it diverting for a 100 minutes? Yes.

Plus, Steve Zahn. He's one of those actors I'll watch no matter what crap he's in.

Posted by: Captain Splendid at June 24, 2010 12:01 PM

Olyphant is a good actor, but Plissken he ain't.

Maybe Keanu Reeves would be a good Snake? You don't need more than one facial expression for the role.

Posted by: FabMax at June 24, 2010 12:34 PM

By the way, anyone watch Justified? Jesus, I love that show and the writers? They know their audience ...

/Raises Hand

* Crazy small-town douchery turned up to 11 - check. (Note.)
* Guns, guns & more guns - check.
* Ironic, slowly unwinding, entangled character arcs - check.
* Incredible supporting players - check.

And have you seen the women on that show? They're the anti-Keanu-fems. Best to keep them away from ScarJo & company. Particles combining with their opposites makes a big, big boom, and we'd you know. loose the good ones, too.

For example, Natalie Zea. Her glam-shots aren't exceptional (research). But as the ex-Mrs. Raylin, wow. So dangerously alive. Yum.

(Note)
Y'all from not rural, not small-towns, particularly not Appalachia wouldn't know this but ... every mountain small town would be as batshit as Harlan, KY if they had the balls. "Back in the day" most did. Some of them still do.

"Smalltown America" in the Eastern mountains of the US (South of New England) is kind of the opposite of the metastasized strip-mall suburbia of South Park. Another thing Justified gets right is how dangerously alive are people from that stock and culture.

Posted by: BierceAmbrose at June 24, 2010 1:41 PM

Olyphant?

Fuck "plot-wise;" I'd watch that movie three times a day.

Posted by: Jerce at June 24, 2010 7:14 PM

olyphant is always great as a coiled snake badass. but he seems kind of young and pretty for pliskin. and his stride is too arrogant. pliskin is a dangerous bad man, but he's also a bit of a sewer rat, and more than a little broken by the system.

the dude that plays cousin johnny on justified could be a pliskin

sometimes i think these remakes would be more fun if, to shake us up they cast wildly against type. like, make sam neill snake pliskin.

Posted by: idleprimate at June 24, 2010 7:47 PM

wow, you know who the next snake plisken is?

no one.

even on pajiba, this couldn't drum up any interest.

burn.

Posted by: idleprimate at June 25, 2010 12:50 AM

I could see this. I don't like remakes, and I especially don't like remakes of things that absolutely nailed it the first time and could never ever be improved even the slightest bit, but if it must happen this is a pretty good choice.

Posted by: James at June 25, 2010 7:11 AM

Bierce, my friend, I am SOO glad to see that someone else so completely gets this show. It's like every day in my hometown. The first episode, I think, when Ava asked Raylin if he wanted a "Co-Cola" I thought, holy shit. These people KNOW! Only in this area of the country would people say/get that.

The supporting characters look like some of my family and basically everyone around here. Except NO ONE looks as good as Raylin. And Walton Goggins? Deserves a frickin' Emmy nod for his performance.

Posted by: dammitjanet at June 25, 2010 10:42 AM

Bierce, my friend, I am SOO glad to see that someone else so completely gets this show.

Yes, indeed Janet - er - Miss Janet - er - dammit if I may be familiar ... I get it. I lived more "out in the hollow", but that show captures home.

What sings for me are the low-key sharp edges between what's OK and what's not. The episode that starts with Raylin getting beat up at a bar was dead-on. Throughout the episode he tells people he had it coming. There's no thought of payback or even being mad. But they kept his hat and told him never to come back. In the end, he goes back to get his hat. Taking his hat is taking advantage, beyond payback for what he did. That's not justified.

Meanwhile, Raylin's ex-wife's current husband - the developer (Brother's, sister's cousin ...) - is tangled in a bad property loan. Raylin helps keep the husband from getting killed or beat up too much, but not to avoid his investment losses. When the developer brings "muscle" to a business meeting, both he and the muscle get beat up later. Nobody tries to fix that because fair is fair. You don't take advantage, whether you are a developer who thinks he has some muscle, a loan shark with a thug, or a Marshall with a gun.

These phrases in the dialog caught me, just like "co-cola":
- "Mind your business."
- "Fair is fair."
- "You and yours."
- "Don't take advantage."

Any country person could tell you what's right and wrong in the bar fight. Get drunk - your business. Get out of line - other people's business. Help an out of line drunk leave - fair is fair. Keep his hat - that's taking advantage. What's more, out in the woods, even the folks who don't live this way are governed by it. They're either the pet of someone who does and their keeper is responsible, or nobody will blink when they get theirs.

The show's name comes from the "justified" shooting that put Marshall Givens back in the hills, but the machinery of every story works around what's "justified" and what isn't. And you know, dammit, as I know, had the bar-jockies given over the hat, bought Raylin a drink, or shown any other kind of fair is fair & once it's over, it's over, they'd be friends.

I hope there's enough viewers to keep Justified on the air for a while. Meanwhile, I've put Elmore Leonard on my read soon pile.

Posted by: BierceAmbrose at June 25, 2010 1:53 PM