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Assembling All The Avengers News Is Getting to Be a F**king Chore

By TK | Posted Under Trade News | Comments (30)



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Oy. Another day, another batch of news regarding Marvel Comics’ Avengers movies and related films. It’s a non-stop barrage. Don’t expect a break anytime soon, since The Avengers isn’t coming out for another two years. That’s two years worth of news and rumors, folks.

Oh, don’t act like you geeks don’t love this shit. I know I do. This is why I persuaded Dustin to let me write this one, so you don’t have to sit through more uninformed geek-bashing. The man has no respect for his audience, I swear.

Then again, I don’t respect y’all either. But at least you’ve got decent taste in comic books.

Anyway. Where the fuck was I? Right. Let’s boogie:

1) Bucky Barnes! Ugh. Captain America’s WWII-era sidekick. A thoroughly boring character, until he got slightly cooler when he was captured by the eeeeevil Russkies and brainwashed, becoming the cybernetic super-assassin, The Winter Soldier. I’m guessing that won’t come into play in The First Avenger: Captain America (seriously, that title is fucking cumbersome). Regardless, Bucky has been cast, and will be portrayed by a thoroughly boring actor, Sebastian Stan, who has been in absolutely nothing noteworthy, other than bit parts in Rachel Getting Married and The Education of Charlie Banks (the latter of which I’ve not seen, so I could be wrong. But he seems pretty dull). The only other movie of his that I’ve seen (regretfully) is The Covenant. So, forgive me if I don’t jump for fucking joy.

2) Iron Man 2 is finished. Dunzo. Complete and ready for release, right on schedule, according to director Jon Favreau’s Twitter page. Ah, Twitter. Bite-sized news for the new millenium. No, Dustin, I am still not getting a fucking Twitter account. I waste enough time on the goddamn internet with the rest of you howler monkeys.

3) News on The Avengers itself.

But first, a moment: Let me just say this: I loved Iron Man. Almost embarrassingly so. I want to make sweet, dorky love to it. I love everything I’ve seen about the sequel. I’m relatively confident that it’s going to rock the fuck out. I thoroughly enjoyed the entertaining, if somewhat flawed, Incredible Hulk. I’m pretty interested in Thor, although less because of the character (who I’m not particularly fond of), and more because of the players involved — Brannagh, Hemsworth, Portman, every fucking other person in the universe. There was a tidbit of news about how cool the costumes are, except that it came from a comment in an AICN talkback, and that’s about as reliable as a cheesecloth condom. But still — it looks pretty damn interesting. Captain America, so far, is underwhelming, but I’m hopeful.

What I’m getting at is — Marvel has now set the bar for The Avengers so high that it can only be seen from fucking space. It’s going to have a serious problem with the army of geeks who are slavering over the project. Fuck, it’s two years away and I’m writing like my 80 billionth article on it. I’m getting fucking carpal tunnel because of that one single franchise. Good luck, Marvel. Get a good director, is what I’m saying.

So, that said, let’s continue with #3 — The Avengers news. The news is that there’s a new director on the short list, and that name is official Friend of Geeks and all around cool guy — Joss Whedon.

April Fool’s!

OK, just fucking with you. He really is in talks to direct The Avengers. It’s actually a great idea. He can clearly do great work with genre films (Serenity), he is a known player with great cred in the comic book universe (The Astonishing X-Men, which I re-read whenever I want to rinse the foul tang of X3 out of my brain), and in my not-particularly-humble opinion, he’s a better option than Louis Leterrier, who’s the only other name we know is on the short-list. The catch is, of course, that much as we love Whedon, he doesn’t actually have that much directing experience when it comes to major feature films. And this one will be seriously major. He’ll have to wrangle some serious star power. So we’ll see.

Oh, and those of you Whedon-haters who are going to waste valuable comment space telling people to get off Whedon’s junk and how much he sucks and blah blah blah? It’s a nice day. Go outside. Get a hobby. And while you’re out there, feel free to dig a hole and bury yourself in rotted dicks.









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Comments

/reads article thrice over

/muffled noises

/changes pants

If he gets it, how many Firefly references can we get thrown into the movie? Is the over/under at around 5?

And dear Sebastian Stan;

GOD DAMN YOU I MAKE A BETTER BUCKY! THIS WAS MY CHANCE MAN AND YOU RUINED IT! SO WHAT IF YOUR NAME ALREADY SOUNDS LIKE A SUPERVILLAIN, GO SUCK A CAR BATTERY AND LAY DOWN IN FRONT OF A COMBINE HARVESTER!

Posted by: D-Day at April 2, 2010 10:43 AM

You better be talking about the Great Lakes Avengers. Keep your Whedon out of my Quinjet! I haven't watched any Buffy, Firefly, or whatever, but Serenity was pretty bad. If Joss Whedon directs an Avengers movie, he better be getting the butt-sweat of an Avengers line-up...I'm talking Sandman, Jarvis, the black lady Captain Marvel, & Hawkeye in his gay Giant-Man costume.

Posted by: the new transported man at April 2, 2010 11:00 AM

Oh I don't hate Joss at all, just his fans and what he usually chooses to work on. He can go right ahead and try this, it's fine by me.

Posted by: Jay at April 2, 2010 11:01 AM

Oh and I think the last Hulk was pretty good too.

Posted by: Jay at April 2, 2010 11:03 AM

Y'know, you're right. It IS a lovely day outside. Even lovlier now that I know what button to push:

Joss Whedon. I like him. His run on Astonishing X-Men was inspired. Dr. Horrible was charming. And as I understand it, Buffy was an incredible experience (can we retroactively put that on the need-to-watch list from the diversion the other day).

But listen, Firefly was bullshit. Cowboys in space? Bah! Serenity followed suit. And please, for the love of all that is holy, don't even get me started on Dollhouse (my fiance' couldn't even stomach that dreck and she'll watch AN.Y.THING.)

So the man is batting 500. Good for baseball. Good for film and TV. Bad for the Avengers.

Posted by: superasente at April 2, 2010 11:08 AM

Yeah, Incredible Hulk was solid. Pretty much paint-by-numbers, but it had a few bits of greatness, namely Ed Norton, William Hurt, & the Tony Stark cameo.

Posted by: the new transported man at April 2, 2010 11:08 AM

Cheesecloth condom? That's just wrong. Or Canadian.

Posted by: mrcreosote at April 2, 2010 11:09 AM

And as I understand it, Buffy was an incredible experience

Hell, why assume that just because it's a talking point? You're at least speaking empirically otherwise. (Yes, it's on my "Fuck OFF, I'm Not Gonna!" list, along with many others)

a few bits of greatness, namely Ed Norton

Wasn't he the lead?

Posted by: Jay at April 2, 2010 11:12 AM

I was actually hoping they would go with a slightly older Bucky, a la the Ultimates.

The Ultimates was in many ways a train wreck, but I'll be damned if I didn't like their treatment of Mr. Barnes. The Winter Soldier bit is cooler, but it reeks of comic book, so to make it work on screen without being epicly silly would be a challenge.

Incidentally, I also liked their wacky, revisionist take on Thor.

Of course, I only read the first graphic novel, so for all I know, the Ultimates went completely off the rails right after that.

Posted by: ZombieScientist at April 2, 2010 11:13 AM

Of course, I only read the first graphic novel, so for all I know, the Ultimates went completely off the rails right after that.

I've never read any Ultimates, but apparently it went off the rails, fell into a big bag of drugs, then into Room 23 from LOST, before finally erupting in a fiery ball of death & reboots.

Posted by: the new transported man at April 2, 2010 11:21 AM

If we have to take TK and his Human Centipede torments to avoid Dustin's geek bashing, I suppose that's a fair trade. I accept.

Joss Whedon is better than most other names thrown out there. I think Favreau's name was mentioned at some point, and based on the first Iron Man movie, he'd be pretty decent too.

I am still not sure how well an "Avengers" movie would work. I love that they are going to try and pull all of these characters together into one film, but my expectations for the "Avengers" movie are actually pretty low. I just see it as becoming one big hot mess.

I've only ever read a handful of "Avengers" comics, since I was more of an "X-Men"/"Suicide Squad" fan back in the day, so I don't know the particulars of any of their key stories/villains and the like.

There's little about Captain America, at this point, that I find all that exciting. Well, Hugo Weaving will be awesome as Red Skull. I like Chris Evans well enough, but he always seems like a wise-ass, he's just got that look and presence about him. It works really well for some character, but isn't very Cap. I will still give him the benefit of the doubt.

As for all the Whedon haters, whatever. It's your loss, not ours. If you justify it by thinking it makes you "cool" or "contrarion" then fine. Go on with your badselves!

Posted by: Forbiddendonut at April 2, 2010 11:26 AM

It's your loss, not ours. If you justify it by thinking it makes you "cool" or "contrarion" then fine.

Always so defensive, you people.

Posted by: Jay at April 2, 2010 11:32 AM

The only thing I didn't like of Whedon's was his run on Astonishing X-Men. Breakworld-schmakeworld. (I should mention I never saw Dollhouse.)

Anyway, I'd trust him with directing an Avengers movie, although I never know how much ends up being the studio and how much ends up being the director in a franchise project like this. Like, Bryan Singer: awesome on X-Men, shit-suckingly terrible on Superman. How in the hell do we explain that?

Posted by: The Wandering Parakeet at April 2, 2010 11:32 AM

awesome on X-Men, shit-suckingly terrible on Superman. How in the hell do we explain that?

Easy, you have no soul.

Posted by: Jay at April 2, 2010 11:39 AM

I'm just sayin...

Posted by: Jay at April 2, 2010 11:41 AM

Easy, you have no soul.

Fair point, but I am truly surprised that anybody liked Superman Returns, soul or not.

Posted by: The Wandering Parakeet at April 2, 2010 11:42 AM

TK, its nice to have a fellow geek writing these articles. That being said, you're still a dick sometimes.

As for Whedon directing the Avengers, I don't know. Personally I think Whedon is a better writer than a director. Aside from Dollhouse (he was kinda handicapped by having no charisma Eliza on there) he has written some pretty good shows and episodes. He's a pretty good genre writer. But a director for a film that will probably cost upwards of $200 million dollars....? I don't really think that's a good idea.

Posted by: bignick at April 2, 2010 11:51 AM

Hell, why assume that just because it's a talking point? You're at least speaking empirically otherwise.

Y'know you're right. I base my assumption on the judgements of close friends, but I haven't seen even one episode myself. I've seen some stills. I've seen the movie (which I loved, but I understand defied Whedon's original design). But the show eludes me.

Whatever, I still don't think he's right for the project. Everything he does is 20% tongue-in-cheek, which I find smarmy and tiresome after too long. He's got talent and I like him, but I just think he'll ruin this.

Posted by: superasente at April 2, 2010 11:54 AM

Like, Bryan Singer: awesome on X-Men, shit-suckingly terrible on Superman. How in the hell do we explain that?

Those movies are closer than you think--they both featured largely unproven casts (Jackman/Routh) sprinkled in with acting heavyweights (McKellan/Spacey).

Both had (X-Men 1) really awful bad guy plots. Yeah, Lex's usual land grab was awful, but Magneto puts a machine that makes people mutants on top of the Statue of Liberty? Really?

The problem comes down to the source material IMO. X-Men hadn't been done, and was a much more "sexy" property when the first movie came out--voracious fan following, good cartoon, modern takes on traditional superhero arcs, etc.

Supes is just old news--the Chris Reeve movies have aged like a cup a milk on a Mississippi porch in the summer. The idea that Kal-El can hide in plain friggin sight BY PUTTING ON A PAIR OF FUCKING GLASSES is insulting to most. On top of that, his stories (generally) lack the complexities and moral ambiguity you find in other comics/movies. And when you add in the fact that he's a GOD, it makes him tougher to relate to and takes away from the real fear of failure/death.

Also, the retro-newspaper thing in Supes Returns? Corny. And Kate Blowsworth (har har har pun joke) killed a lot of it.

Posted by: D-Day at April 2, 2010 12:12 PM

OMFG please let this happen. I'll cease to refer to Avengers as second lamest team in Marvelverse! I'll go to comicon in a REALLY tight shirt so my boobs look huge! I haven't geeked out about anything in so long, I just wanna geek out about this. K?

Posted by: lilianna28 at April 2, 2010 12:13 PM

Y'know you're right. I base my assumption on the judgements of close friends, but I haven't seen even one episode myself. I've seen some stills. I've seen the movie (which I loved, but I understand defied Whedon's original design). But the show eludes me.

Posted by: superasente at April 2, 2010 11:54 AM

I loved Firefly all up and down the block. The neighbors took out a restraining order to try and silence my love, or at least keep it behind closed doors. I also loved Serenity, but it is a severely flawed film. Basically, it took what should have been the arc of an entire 2nd season of Firefly and tried to compress it into 2 hours.

I love it because the TV show had caused me to love those characters, and I was thrilled to spend another 2 hours with them, but it is not a movie that I'm sure can be watched or appreciated on its own merits, unfortunately.

Firefly is Traveller on TV (deliberate misspelling. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveller_%28role-playing_game%29 ). Mal is the character I always wanted to be playing. Wash is the techie goofball I really would be in that world. There are deep geeky resonances here.

Posted by: ZombieScientist at April 2, 2010 12:33 PM

the Chris Reeve movies have aged like a cup a milk on a Mississippi porch in the summer.

It's amazing that brain can generate enough power to keep those fingers moving.

And we give ourselves entirely too much credit for being observant: the glasses thing works.

Posted by: Jay at April 2, 2010 1:14 PM

(See what I did there? Huh huh? Suckas get LEXXXDD!)

Posted by: Jay at April 2, 2010 1:29 PM

Go sit on a bowling pin, you!

:P

The glasses thing would work if Supes wasn't supposed to be 6'4 250 and built like a linebacker.

Lois Lane fucked Superman...and she can't recognize him as Clark? She won a Pullitzer (or whatever) and she can't recognize a guy SHE HAD A KID WITH!

Posted by: D-Day at April 2, 2010 2:35 PM

But listen, Firefly was bullshit. Cowboys in space? Bah!
*Enters the Ring to Weird Al's "Dare to Be Stupid"*
NOW LET ME TELL YOU, BROTHER! YOU. ME. AT SUMMERSLAM. IN THE STEEEEEEL CAAAAAAGE!
*Flexes*
YOU'RE GONNA EAT THOSE WORDS ASSENTE!
WHATCHA GONNA DO... WHEN OPTIMANIA... RUNS WILD... ON YOU!
*Flexes, puts hand to ear, listens to roaring crowd, Flexes, repeats*

Posted by: Optimus "The Body" Rhyme at April 2, 2010 5:08 PM

Sebastian Stan was good in his role on "Kings."

As Bucky? Eh...he's going to out act Chris Evans.

Posted by: DeistBrawler at April 2, 2010 7:29 PM

I suppose this means the Wasp is going to get a lot more screen time than anyone expected.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at April 2, 2010 10:59 PM

ohhhhhhhh

yes yes yes ysesses

there! more!

heavy breathing

gasp

pant

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasp!

...and there it was. My Whedongasm of the Week.

Posted by: esme at April 3, 2010 12:16 AM

Also: The Astonishing X-Men = awesome in a box.

Posted by: esme at April 3, 2010 12:17 AM

Astonishing X-Men rocked. Let him write and direct, he can handle Marvel well.

Posted by: Lucas at April 4, 2010 2:38 PM