New 'Justice League' Rumor Provokes Nerd Excitement Mingled with the Acknowledgement of Likely Disappointment!
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New Justice League Rumor Provokes Nerd Excitement Mingled with the Acknowledgement of Likely Disappointment!

By Jodi Clager | Trade News | March 4, 2013 | Comments ()


Before you begin reading this, know that I am having a full-on nerd attack. This news blind-sided me and I'm reacting to it.

Appropriately enough, I have just finished watching the excellent animated The Dark Knight Returns: Part 1 & 2. I thought to myself that DC should just stick to animated works because that's where they really shine. We don't need to have back stories force fed to us when some of us know them by heart. Really, even people that don't know them by heart, do they really need to see the hero's emergence when you already know how it ends? No matter how much they might flinch in the face of all of that comes with it, you know they'll choose the cowl; the cape; the ring; the people of this planet; the responsibility. The animated features cut right to the chase.

DC's live-action properties do not. Green Lantern, Batman, Superman, Catwoman, Jonah Hex - we have to watch all of them become who they are, either through flashback or entire movies. Hell, they can't even get that right with properties that aren't Batman. Batman is the only property they have that is a consistent money maker when it comes to film. Superman was viable in the late 70s/early 80s, but even some of the Christopher Reeve movies are laughable. Green Lantern is a mess, Jonah Hex is a Mastodon-fueled slurry of overacting and explosions, and Catwoman? Let's just pretend that never happened.

Where am I going with this? Justice League is rumored for a 2015 release date and DC (and studio Warner Bros.) wants to show Marvel that they can hang with the big boys when it comes to box office returns. DC/Warner Bros. is full of sh*t, of course. They aren't playing it nearly as smart as Marvel did. Warner Bros. didn't create an audience by giving the JL characters standalone movies that are actually good (aside from Batman, of course). They still don't have a Wonder Woman movie and the character can't even appear on television without getting an Aly McBeal makeover. I'm not even getting into the other characters that most people don't even know exist in the JL universe.

So how does DC/Warner Bros. hope to overcome these problems? Rumors. I refuse to believe for one moment that DC/Warner Bros. is not involved with all of the crazy leaks we keep hearing about. Joseph Gordon-Levitt will take over for Batman and will appear Nick Fury-style at the end of Man of Steel. Henry Cavill will reprise his Superman role. Wait, no he won't. Well, maybe he will. Darkseid is the villain. Ben Affleck will direct. Er, nope, he won't. The Wachowskis?

Now Latino Review's El Mayimbe is saying that "Christopher Nolan has completely taken over the DCU at Warner Bros. Anything having to do with these super heroes, goes through him now." I thought Nolan passed on even producing JL? Okay. Well, what does this mean?

According to El Mayimbe, it means that Christian Bale is being courted to bring his Batman back to the screen. That would mean that Nolan is willing to say that The Dark Knight Rises ending wasn't really the ending and Bruce Wayne got bored and popped back into crime fighting with the Justice League. That seems unlikely to me. Maybe the Justice League movie takes place between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight or between The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises.

Isn't there a problem with that too? That people seem to think that Batman is in hiding or gone before TDKR? If Batman was in Justice League during that time and helped kick the ass of something like Darkseid, don't you think the people of Gotham would f*cking know about that? If he battles with Supes and team before The Joker, wouldn't the Justice League do Batman a solid and assist him when Bane locks down the city and threatens to blow up everyone?

Maybe I'm over-thinking this. Or maybe Nolan is willing to toss his trilogy aside and pretend that Bale is Batman in an entirely different universe from the one he created. A universe rooted, if not wholly connected sometimes, in reality. Nolan will now take this character that he clearly spent a great deal of time learning about, reading about, and integrating important comic moments into the film legacy of and just start again? Of course, it wouldn't be the first time Batman came out of a self-imposed retirement to b*tch-slap some bad guys.

Watch El Mayimbe spell out the entire rumor for you in this video. Would I love for all that he says to be true? Yes, yes I would. I would love for Bale to come back, Nolan to make sure everything comes out right, and doing Justice League the way it needs to be done. I want this to happen and Latino Reviews has a decent track record when it comes to stuff like this. I am holding my breath and praying to the Comic Gods for this to happen. I still have my reservations and look forward to finding out what portions of this possibly GIGANTIC scoop are true. Seriously, I'm tingling with excitement at the very prospect of this coming together.

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  • supergwarr

    they would have to do everything without
    any flaw. nothing could go wrong. they could pull it off but i doubt they will.
    As the Joker said "This city deserves a better class of criminal. And I'm
    gonna give it to them!"

    the idea of the events of TDKR
    now inspiring new heroes makes sense. as it seems the trailers for superman
    show that he hid his powers for most of his life. only time will tell but i am
    not sure the worlds they have created ( see green lantern) would work

  • hater from Siloam Springs

    Oh Bullshit. DC should stick to graphic novel-esque cartoons. Until they can get GL and Wonder Woman right (forget about Aquaman -- there's simply no way) and decide which Batman they are going to have running the show, the rest is utterly bullshit. It's a testament to how sad this endeavor is that the best effort at this so far was on Smallville, and the most compelling character was Chloe Sullivan.

    Because Young Justice is 100 times better than Green Lantern's best moments, and because Brave and the Bold is 1000 times better than that crappy WW TV show, they should just stick to what works and what they know. Just because you -can- do something, it doesn't follow you -must- do it.

  • I find myself caring less and less about a Justice League movie and more and more about a one-off Dark Knight Returns movie featuring grizzled old dark weirdo Bruce Wayne/Batman played once more by Michael Keaton.

  • God Of Bal-Sagoth

    I'd watch the shit outta that.

  • Green Lantern

    I'd watch that.

  • Pinky McLadybits

    Dude. Yes.

  • Littlejon2001

    All of this is banking on the apparent guaranteed success of Man of Steel. I still have huge doubts about that movie and don't believe it will make anywhere near as much as The Dark Knight made. "Billion dollar franchise"? Yea we'll see...

  • Check out Batman and Superman in this vid and see if it doesn't open your mind to the possibilities!

  • Long_Pig_Tailor

    I mean... can this happen? Yeah, sure, totally. As someone else here said, if TDKR marks the point where shit gets real superhero-wise in-universe, which it arguably could (as cool as Batman is, for the first two movies, he's not necessarily that significant a deal inter/nationally, whereas post-TDKR, he totally is), then a Justice League rooted in Nolan's kind of realism is a thing that can exist.

    I just don't know that it makes sense Nolan would be up for running such a thing, even just producer-wise. Sure, it would come with tons of money, which I assume is a thing he would enjoy, but he's going to get tons of money pretty much no matter what he does, it's just a question of whether it's most convenient to express the sum in scientific notation. Which means the question is, does Nolan see the kind of storytelling potential for DCU/Justice League that he did in Batman? Given his presumable exposure to the wider world working on Man of Steel, it again seems possible, but... Fucking Aquaman, you follow? There are real limits to what you can do with Justice League if you're Christopher Nolan. Still, hey, I guess it's still totally conceivable.

    That said, no fucking way they can get Bale back on board. I can't see the Justice League movie where there's enough Batman happening for Bale to be interested, and plus they probably couldn't afford him and the JL stars (who will need to be namier than the Avengers crew, because obviously DC is into forcing this thing, which takes stars)

  • BobbFrapples

    I'm kind of hoping they forget about this idea. Marvel won.

  • Mr_Zito

    I think they are just gonna quit everything when Man of Steel turns ou to be a big failure, but if they end up going ahead with the Justice League movie, and they want to put Batman in it, they should just use a generic Batman, not get into details of what version it is and leave it there. It would even suit the position Batman usually occupies in the Justice League, not exposing himself too much.

  • Blamer

    absolutely. I have a laughable image of this turning out to be a Nolan-style Batman wandering around with the biggest WTF face while aliens and people with super powers show up left, right and centre.

    Wouldn't be hard to make them separate properties entirely, and would accommodate for the tonal disconnect.

  • Green Lantern

    Eh...I'm calling BS on this. And frankly I think it'd be a poor idea to retcon "Dark Knight Rises" or make assumptions like there were ALREADY characters like Superman or Green Lantern around while Bane was rousting Gotham...'cause you know he wouldn't have been if there was anyone else to have stopped him.

    It's like the Chewbacca defense. It does NOT! MAKE! SENSE!

  • God Of Bal-Sagoth

    Right. Once you make that leap to the idea that there have already been other heroes around, you reach the conclusion that when Gotham City was reduced to poverty-stricken anarchy and was under threat of nuclear detonation, Superman just sat on his ass?

    Does not compute.

  • Pinky McLadybits

    I can totally see Superman sitting on his ass, though. It just depends on whether he's Government Employee Supes or Regular Supes.

  • Green Lantern

    That's cause you're racist against Kryptonians. We've been down this path before, you and I. DON'T PROJECT YOUR SUPERHATE! YOU DON'T KNOW KAL LIKE *I* KNOW KAL!

  • Pinky McLadybits


  • God Of Bal-Sagoth


  • Green Lantern


  • victory has defeated you.

    in line with the comic books i think there is room for nolan to bring bruce wayne back. lets say gordon levitt is giving responsibilitly of gotham and bruce wayne goes international to develop batman incorporated. i could let his whole retirement slide for the possibilty of seeing batman and superman on screen together. my life would be complete...

  • NateMan

    I just don't see how Nolan's Batman can exist in a world of superpowered goombahs in outside-undies and tights. I mean, the whole point of the movies (to me) was their realism, for lack of a better word. Bane didn't have his Venom. The Joker didn't mess around with his laughing gas. And Ra's al Ghul wasn't an immortal. People died and stayed dead. Start throwing around superpowers and everything goes out the window.

    Set it in another universe and sure, that would be fine. But it doesn't coexist with Nolan's vision.

  • Lovezoid

    It could work if Man of Steel has Superman reveal himself to the world immediately after the events of TDKR - perhaps those events are the catalyst and Batman is what inspires him. So when this guy shows up, Batman can't help but come back to don the cowl just so he can keep an eye on him - precisely because he is on another level than his previous foes, and look at the trouble they caused. With Superman bringing Zod and friends in pursuit, now we have inter-galactic super-villains aware of earth, we have a presence in the universe and other beings will want to check us out - enter Green Lantern and whatever villains. Flash, just keep the original origin or a variation intact, I think it's fine to say one of them was the product of technology/science/nature gone awry, and have him seek out Bats and Supes to lend a hand. Wonder Woman is the tricky one - they've then gotta do a 'Thor', which will be tricky without imitating Thor.

    Then I think they should start like a series of stand-alone Batman movies, 'Legends of the Dark Knight', where anyone can go do their own take on the character, much like they seem to be planning to do with Star Wars. Then I might finally get a bat-verse where killer croc and clayface can exist

  • carrie

    it won't happen

  • Pants-are-a-must

    And now, commence a whole thread full of Bane jokes and Joker macros.

  • Pants-are-a-must

    There isn't a truck big enough to roll the amount of cash WB would need to get Nolan, the Nolan Sibling, Goyer and Bale back into this franchise. Particularly Nolan. I had a nerd attack over this (probably untrue, lesbihonest) rumor last night, but even then, I was wondering how WB are sweetening the pot for all of the above in order to get them back.

  • lowercase_ryan

    It's Hollywood, there's always a big enough truck. Just not always someone willing to drive it.

  • Blake

    I don't know about that...There are some big trucks out there and for the right deal anyone can be bought. If Nolan is still able to do his own movies then why not?

  • Pants-are-a-must

    Nolan can do them without helming this franchise as well. You think WB would refuse him a blank check for Interstellar? They gave him a blank check after The Dark Knight and the result was Inception. His position with them is unassailable at the moment. That's why I was wondering if they'd offer him anything beyond money.

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