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5. Hitman: I just took a gander at the top 25 video-game films of all time, and aside from the fact that there is not one single quality film on the list, only one has even broken the $100 million mark (Tomb Raider). So, why? Why do Hollywood studios continue to drink from a muddy well? Hitman looks to reap around a $50 million take before it’s all said and done, which will actually put it around number five. Whatever. Lost in the shuffle here is the presence of Dougray Scott in Hitman — what happened to that guy? Heading up to Mission: Impossible II, he was poised to be the next big action star. And then he just sort of vanished. I wonder if he’d be doing tacky Broadway musicals if he’d taken the role of Wolverine in X-Men instead of opting to do MI:II? I suppose we’ll never know. (Weekend: $6 million; Total: $30 million).

4. Awake: On Friday, I began my review of Awake by dismissing the “I wish I were asleep” angle, in some part because I assumed it would’ve been a popular tack among other critics. And hell if I wasn’t right. The one thing about most movie critics is that they will never pass up an opportunity to either make a pun or a play on words. I checked just a few reviews of Awake and discovered the following gems from various publications, online and off: 1) “You’re better off sleeping than sit (sic) through Awake”; 2) Awake is more likely to put you to sleep”; 3) “The filmmakers of Awake have crafted a domestic thriller that just may end up putting you ASLEEP”; 4) I will admit that I didn’t have a problem staying awake during Awake, which is saying something considering I was running on only one hour of sleep”; 5) “Awake review: Best stay asleep”; 6) “You really might want to sleep through it”; 7) “Far from the epitome of time well spent, Awake will probably make you wish you hadn’t been”; 8) “A thriller that can put viewers to sleep”; and 9) then there was The Hollywood Reporter, the only major publication that liked Awake, though that didn’t stop their critic from using the easy line, writing: “Awake didn’t deserve the big sleep.” I think I may have turned my face inside out groaning at those.

Anyway, how many people knew that Jessica Alba got her start on “Flipper” on the PAX Channel? Seriously.

(Weekend: $6 million.)

3. Beowulf: The Hollywood Reporter released its list of highest-paid actresses last week. Atop the list: Reese Witherspoon, who is 31. Second on the list was Angelina Jolie, who is 32-years-old. Is it just me, or is Jolie a hard looking 32? I mean, Brad Pitt is 44, and I never would’ve thought those two were more than a few years apart. And yeah, I have absolutely nothing left to say about Beowulf, except that — as it approaches $70 million — it’s got a long damn ways to go if it expects to break even on its budget of $150 million. (Weekend: $8 million; Total: $68 million.)

2. This Christmas: Has anyone ever stopped to consider just how ridiculous it is that there are so few black directors in Hollywood? There are, to my immediate recollection, three marquee African-American directors: Spike Lee, John Singleton, and Tyler Perry (the latter I include only because of his box-office draw). Forrest Whittaker and Denzel have a few mediocre to bad directing credits to their name, but then the next level of African-American directors includes a list of mostly unfamiliar names: Tim Story, Kevin Rodney Sullivan, Malcolm Lee, Carl Franklin, George Tillman, Jr. and the director of This Christmas, Preston Whitmore. I’m sure I’m missing someone, but for shits and giggles, can anyone name a black director — not on the above list — that’s made a film that has grossed more than $40 million domestic (and no, Chris Rock hasn’t managed it, either). (Weekend: $8.5 million; Total: $37 million.)

1. Enchanted: Holy shit! Who remembers that Amy Adams was in Drop Dead Gorgeous? Take a gander:

Note to self: Drop Dead Gorgeous needs to get the Underappreciated Gem treatment. Soon. (Weekend: $17 million; Total: $70 million.)

On DVD this week, you can have your choice of the regular edition of Superbad, the special edition of Superbad or even the unrated edition. Go ahead and buy all three, mix ‘em up, stick them in the DVD player blindly, and try to guess which is which. It’d be more fun that watching the other two releases, The Nanny Diaries and Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End.


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Comments

Jeez, finally a new t-shirt ad on the left, and it's just as distracting as the last one!

And it looks like directing movies is just like politics: still, still, still the province of white men.

Posted by: Todd at December 3, 2007 9:18 AM

Mario Van Peebles, New Jack City, $47M

That Flipper scene was where Jessica Alba was distracted by a pretty, shiny light, which turned out to be God telling her, "don't worry, your ass will make you rich".

Nice call -- after, How to Get the Man's Foot Outta Your Ass, I suppose I forgot that Peebles once directed a legit film. -- DR

Posted by: kushiro at December 3, 2007 9:20 AM

Leni Riefenstahl's heart is black, does that count?

Posted by: nevin at December 3, 2007 9:20 AM

Go ahead and buy all three, mix 'em up, stick them in the DVD player blindly, and try to guess which is which. It'd be more fun that watching the other two releases, The Nanny Diaries and Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End.

Awwh, come on; World's end wasn't that bad, especialy as a brain-off popcorn flick

Posted by: cockroach at December 3, 2007 9:23 AM

can anyone name a black director -- not on the above list -- that's made a film that has grossed more than $40 million

Antoine Fuqua has a few: Training Day, Tears of the Sun, King Arthur and Shooter. That was the first name I thought of.

Not that that negates your point at all.

Nice call, CL. Fuqua completely slipped my mind. -- DR

Posted by: CL at December 3, 2007 9:24 AM

Yes, Drop Dead Gorgeous is massivly underapreciated. A classic.

Posted by: kevin at December 3, 2007 9:32 AM

Oh hell yes, Drop Dead Gorgeous is on my top ten list, I'd love to see it get Pajiba-ed.

Oh, I also saw Dougray Scott in a trailer for a cappy B- vampirey flick called perfect Creature. Straight to DVD I believe. Shame about that guy.

Posted by: MG at December 3, 2007 9:37 AM

Jolie is kinda a hard looking 32, Dustin. She used to look so much better. Seriously, Pitt is 44? He's so pretty. Clooney is still hotter.

Sorry, a little off track there.

Posted by: Melody at December 3, 2007 9:47 AM

F Gary Grey, director of Friday, The Negotiator, The Italian Job and Be Cool. None of these are great movies, but they all made money. Maybe you didn't think of him because, after Friday, none of these are "black" films. They're just your typical bad action films.

Posted by: Withnail at December 3, 2007 10:01 AM

I saw the Golden Compass this weekend and, while I really enjoyed it, I have a feeling the Pajiba review is going to be somewhat harsh. I'm begging you all to be nice. Nicole Kidman as a villain is fierce. Learn to love it :).

Posted by: David at December 3, 2007 10:05 AM

I saw Beowulf 3-D this weekend, and I was pleasantly surprised. I liked it. I love the poem, so when I first saw the trailer, I thought it was going to be a cheesy live action 3-D movie with bad CGI and gratuitous, nekkid Angelina Jolie.

It was a 3-D animated movie, and at times I actually forgot I was watching an animated movie. I didn't have to flinch or duck when pointy things came out of the screen. They weren't in my face. The changes to the story were not bad. They actually made the story hang together as a whole. I could have lived without nekkid Anthony Hopkins, but it served to make you a bit disgusted with him.

After the movie, I looked up the actors who played Beowulf and Wiglaf. Strangely enough, these two were the most lifelike characters in the movie, and they look the least like their real life actors. Winstone (Beowulf) is a 50 year old, overweight guy, and Wiglaf (Gleeson) was Mad-Eye Moody in one of the Harry Potter films. Wealthow (Penn), whos character looked the most like her real life self, was the most wooden of the animated characters. I thought they really needed to add more wrinkles to her. It would have given her character life and been more age appropriate.

All in all, I was pleasantly surprised by this film.

Posted by: BWeaves at December 3, 2007 10:06 AM

I'm not shocked that there are so few black directors...I mean, I thought that's pretty much how things work over there.


Speaking of "black" movies, not that we were, but let's assume that's the case. Am I the only non-American black person who is completely confused by them? I don't understand black American culture at all, be it music, films or TV. In fact, it's easier for me to watch "white" films/TV because they're the ones I've been exposed to the most. I'm only saying this because I'm somehow expected to because people assume that "black" is a culture and no matter which country we come from, we all have the same culture.

Posted by: joker at December 3, 2007 10:18 AM

I last saw Dougray Scott on Desperate Housewives last season hiding his Scottish accent with an AWFUL British one. Scottish actors need to just not even try. Gerard Butler's: abyssmal. Ewan McGregor: better than most but you can still tell he's Scottish. I can't think of any other right now. But it's something that I have noticed.
And I haven't seen Drop Dead Gorgeous in AGES! I love that movie. Something to watch now that all the regular TV is going off air.

Posted by: lyricalcatt at December 3, 2007 10:25 AM

"USA is A-OK! And can I remember the theme of my very favourite pageant? Amer-I-Can!"

Yes, please Underappreciated Gem Drop Dead Gorgeous. I'll be your best friend.

Posted by: Sandra at December 3, 2007 10:29 AM

OMG YES!!!!! Drop Dead Gorgeous is an AWESOME movie! Please, please, PLEASE write an Under-appreciated Gem about it!!!!!!!!!!

Um... Sorry, for turning into a shrill and excitable 14-year-old girl on you.

Posted by: KatyBelle at December 3, 2007 10:37 AM

OMG YES!!!!! Drop Dead Gorgeous is an AWESOME movie! Please, please, PLEASE write an Under-appreciated Gem about it!!!!!!!!!!

Um... Sorry, for turning into a shrill and excitable 14-year-old girl on you.

Posted by: KatyBelle at December 3, 2007 10:37 AM

Keenen Ivory Wayans directed Scary movie which made more than $40m on its opening weekend. Of course, then he directed Scary Movie 2, White Chicks, and Little Man.

Posted by: Will at December 3, 2007 10:40 AM

In an ultimate display of sadness, my dorm floor (all males) did for a talent show in my college...wait for it..."Highlights from Drop Dead Gorgeous". We won.

If there is a just higher power, you'll underappreciate that bad boy, double quick!

Posted by: Ryan at December 3, 2007 10:53 AM

lyricalcatt - for a Scot doing a good British accent, check out the new Dr. Who. I just got the first DVD set and David Tennant has quite a thick Scottish accent in the commentary etc. but you would never know it on the show! Random plug, yes, but I'm obsessively enjoying that show right now.

Posted by: Anne (in Reno) at December 3, 2007 10:57 AM

Drop Dead Gorgeous is the only movie I can remember ever seen Amy Adams in (other than Blades of Glory which I won't admit to watching) along with that one episode of Buffy. Oh Lord, I do love it so.

I do however have my newly arrived Junebug DVD in my bag though (Pajiba has a seriosuly detrimental effect on my bank balance) and I shall be watching that this evening. Not entirely related to the reound-up but close enough.

Posted by: Alex the Odd at December 3, 2007 11:03 AM

Anne (in Reno): for a Scot doing a good British accent

I thought everyone that posted here was more intelligent than that...

Scots naturally speak with British accents, because they are British.

Don't worry, I won't tax you by asking you your opinons om map usage

Posted by: cockroach at December 3, 2007 11:05 AM

Will: yeah, but Keenan also made "I'm Gonna Get You Sucka" and created "In Living Color" which gives him a free pass from me. I just wish he would stop making horrible high-concept comedies but they make money and cost little so it's good business for him.

Posted by: Rob at December 3, 2007 11:05 AM

*opinions on map usage

Posted by: cockroach at December 3, 2007 11:06 AM

For the Successful Black Director List, Tim Story directed both of the "Fantastic Four" movies, both of which made stacks of cash.

Posted by: Soulless Merchant of Fear at December 3, 2007 11:08 AM

Geez, I'm glad I specified "two-disc" on my Christmas list for "Superbad", and that only one of those three has two. Bad enough telling your family to get you series 1 or 2 of 3 of Doctor Who for your birthday (I bought the other 2 Friday night so I could finally delete all the BBC dvr rips...except that's the only way to get uncut "Doctor Who Confidential" episodes....and then you've got the podcast commentaries which are different from the dvd commentaries....oy! And don't miss the ADVENTure calendar now started on the BBC site!).

I have a feeling Amy Adams is going to be like Zooey Deschanel and Alyson Hannigan and mainly show up in things I don't really want to see otherwise. Ain't that just how it goes? And I did quite enjoy IMAX 3D "Beowulf" but you're right, Angelina's five months older than me and makes me feel very youthful in comparison.

Posted by: Jay at December 3, 2007 11:22 AM

Technically, yes, they *are* colonized by wankers. Man, rub the salt in, why doncha?

Posted by: Jay at December 3, 2007 11:26 AM

Let me preface this by saying-- I ADORE AMY ADAMS.

But does it seem like she plays the same character in every film?

Sweet, ditsy, hopelessly naive - a character that could easily become annoying if she didn't play it so delightfully sincere.
Like a more naive version of Elle Woods (Legally Blond).

Drop Dead Gorgeous
Enchanted
Junebug
Catch Me if You Can

They're basically all the same girl.
I hate to see her get type cast-- I don't doubt she has the talent for a range of roles.

(Talladega Nights may be an exception, I haven't seen it.)

Posted by: Jenn at December 3, 2007 11:28 AM

Mini Comment Diversion Idea: Is it wrong to be attracted to and turned on by young actresses while watching the early work of said future hotties? Examples - Katherine Heigl in "My Father the Hero," or Jessica Alba in "Flipper."

Posted by: FrothyWalrus at December 3, 2007 11:29 AM

David - I saw it too and I'm curious to know how much money it made. The movie was a little disappointing (mainly with pacing. Visually it was perfect and well cast) and I've been waiting for it for five years, but as a big fan of the books, I didn't go in expecting anything great.

Posted by: kayla at December 3, 2007 11:33 AM

I love Drop Dead Gorgeous! I have a lot of middle school memories with that movie, but it's been a while since I've seen it. Greatest thing Kirsten Dunst ever did.

Posted by: Kelsy at December 3, 2007 11:41 AM

cockroach: i dare you to say "Scots naturally speak with British accents, because they are British." to a Scot. i bet the results would be pretty funny, at least for us watching.

Jay: they weren't colonized by the wankers, they were invaded and annexed, big difference.

Posted by: causaubon at December 3, 2007 11:59 AM

cockroach: i dare you to say "Scots naturally speak with British accents, because they are British." to a Scot. i bet the results would be pretty funny, at least for us watching.

Jay: they weren't colonized by the "wankers", they were invaded and annexed, big difference.

Posted by: causaubon at December 3, 2007 11:59 AM

About Fuqua, Even if many didn't like King Arthur I feel it's grown on me quite a bit(especially the Director's cut). A lot of it has to do with one Clive Owen and Horatio Hornblower, the presence of "anorexic cunt who shall not be named" notwithstanding.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at December 3, 2007 12:04 PM

Oh, it's been a long time since I've seen Drop Dead Gorgeous. Too long *wanders over to re-order netflix list*

None of the top 5 movies this weekend interest me. What interests me is why Southland Tales is not being released in Miami. Seriously, I have finals starting wednesday and a solo performance today, I need a couple hours of bright, shiny, nonsensical fun with the Rock to stare at and I CAN'T HAVE IT. Grrrr..... And all my picks for black directors were already named, go Pajibans!

Posted by: Rusty at December 3, 2007 12:09 PM

Hey, I'm just quoting my favorite Edinburgh ex-junkie.

There's a great Joe Queenan story about going to a football match between Scotland and France and how all the fans on both sides had a wonderful time together.

I'm always lamenting that Alan Cumming pretty much only gets to be Scottish on Conan O'Brien. And has everyone seen that interview from the set of "Dr. Strangelove" where Peter Sellers gives an accent tour of the UK? Very funny but also quite educational! And hey, happy belated St. Andrews Day ever'buddy!

Posted by: Jay at December 3, 2007 12:11 PM

Ooooh I LOVE "Drop Dead Gorgeous!" I'm so glad I'm not alone--no one I know has even heard of it, much less seen it. I stumbled across it on VOD when I was living in Indiana and just fell in love with it. Since you've already done my other favorite unappreciated gem, "Lone Star," you HAVE to do "Drop Dead Gorgeous!"

Posted by: AnnArrogance at December 3, 2007 12:13 PM

causauboncockroach: i dare you to say "Scots naturally speak with British accents, because they are British." to a Scot. i bet the results would be pretty funny, at least for us watching

Well,my mum's only a phone call away...

/I'm half Scottish, mate, though admittedly English born and bred

The assumption all Americans seem to have, that all Scots want independence from the rest of the uk is stupid

/also, the island that contains England, Scotland and Wales, has always been known as Britain, or Britania , since Roman Times; the first person to call the country Great Britain was the Scottish king, James after he became king of England as well as Scotland.

Scotland would still be British, regardless of its relation to England

as for Scotland being annexed dubiously, well I can't deny that, but that's histoty

/give my regards to Hawaii, by the way.

Posted by: cockroach at December 3, 2007 12:14 PM

I respectfully request a review of "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly" that promo they ran on IFC after the Henry Rollins Show. Made feel weird..things...inside.

I'm, perturbed at the prospect of liking touchy feely crap.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at December 3, 2007 12:17 PM

*Britannia
**history

Posted by: cockroach at December 3, 2007 12:17 PM

Ok I give you Alan Cumming. He does every accent pretty well to me. He was German in Xmen 2, I think.
I suppose there are many Scottish(they are not British...) people that can do a good British accent. However, Dougray Scott, not so much. I suppose nowadays you need to be able to adjust if you are an actor. It seems that all the American roles are being taken by ones from other countries who can do a passable American accent.

Posted by: lyricalcatt at December 3, 2007 12:17 PM

Cockroach: I understand the whole history thing, but Scotland is a country, right? I don't know maybe when I started this whole accent thing I might have looked it up! Ha ha. However, the dialects are very different. That's mainly what I meant. It seems hard to switch from the Scottish dialect to anything else really. Or maybe the examples I raised just aren't good at accents.

Posted by: lyricalcatt at December 3, 2007 12:22 PM

lyricalcatt I suppose there are many Scottish(they are not British...) people that can do a good British accent.

get your facts straight Scots are British, therefore the 'Scottish' accent is British, as well as the 'English' accent, saying British when you mean 'English' is in fact patronising to Scots (and the Welsh) because it suggests England is the only country in Britain)

*quotes used for 'English' and Scottish', because there is there isn't just one, homogenised accent, in either country

Posted by: cockroach at December 3, 2007 12:24 PM

Oh, brrrrrother let's not start a whole Scottish/British "skirmish" next thing the Irish will jump in.

We ALL know the reason they didn't come out on top was 'cause they didn't know if there would be liquor at the places they'd have to conquer if they went on an expansionist drive.

Ahahahahahaha BRING IT!.... Highlanders.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at December 3, 2007 12:25 PM

lyricalcatt:
I posted the above quote before I read your clarification, (should've pressed F5 before posting), but it hopeful does clear up my issues accent wise

Posted by: cockroach at December 3, 2007 12:28 PM

Far be it from me to argue with a first generation half-Scot on this point, but here we go: Three of my grandparents were American hillbillies of direct Scottish descent, and I've always understood -- and heard with my own ear -- that Scottish accents, e.g. those of John Hannah, Ewan McGregor, and Sean Connery, are quite distinct from British accents, as much so as Irish. Doesn't the term "brogue" refer primarily to the deep, thick accent of the Highlands and rural areas of Scotland?

Maybe this is semantics, if you mean that a Scot accent is British because of British rule. But Scotland the geographic area has a beautifully distinctive voice, separate from any of the individual accents found in England the geographic area.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at December 3, 2007 12:36 PM

Drop Dead Gorgeous is freakin' hilarious. I think I watched it about 5 times before returning it. Probably a good indicator that I should buy it. And Junebug is at the top of my next-rental list, once finals are blessedly over in two days.

Angelina Jolie is a hard looking 32. I think her strongest feature is the Hollywood context that envelops her. Without that I don't think she would be faring as well in the looks department.

Posted by: katy at December 3, 2007 12:41 PM

Scotland the geographic area has a beautifully distinctive voice, separate from any of the individual accents found in England the geographic area.

I'm not saying Scottish accents and English accents are the same, far from it; by using the Word British, it includes by association England, Wales (and Northern Ireland) so when you say 'British' accent, when you mean 'English' it actually implies that the English Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish all share the same accent, which is demeaning to the three latter peoples.

Posted by: cockroach at December 3, 2007 12:48 PM

England, Wales, *Scotland (and Northern Ireland)

/been typing that word so often I didn't notice

Posted by: cockroach at December 3, 2007 12:49 PM

And "semantic" doesn't mean "insignificant," at least not to me. I think this is a common phenomenon when discussing geopolitical distinctions of other peoples. The Virginia accent of the United States is quite distinct from the accents of Louisiana, Texas, and Alabama, each of which is also distinct, yet they are all generally lumped together as "southern" in outsiders' minds. Most people in the U.S. don't even know their own basic political history, much less the important (but over here, esoteric) distinction between "British" and "English."

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at December 3, 2007 12:58 PM

I don't think Angelina's "hard"-looking, I just think she has a very sophisticated, non-cutesy beauty. I don't think girlfriend's had a cute day in her life. She's probably looked 30 since she was 16.

Posted by: Samantha T at December 3, 2007 1:07 PM

umm, yeah, Comic Book Guy cockroach, i guess you are right- the island is called Britain and therefore technically inhabitants of the island, be they English, Welsh or Scottish are British. but outside of the UK, the term British is usually (granted incorrectly) assumed to mean English, much the same as the term American is used to refer to a citizen of the USA- even though the continents are the Americas and therefore technically a Canadian, Brazilian or Cuban would also be an American. but i'm sure you knew that when making your statement about how "The assumption all Americans seem to have, that all Scots want independence from the rest of the uk is stupid".

and for the record- i neither assumed that all Scots want independence from the rest of the UK nor made reference to that in my post. also i am not American.

Posted by: causaubon at December 3, 2007 1:09 PM

umm, yeah, Comic Book Guy cockroach, i guess you are right- the island is called Britain and therefore technically inhabitants of the island, be they English, Welsh or Scottish are British. but outside of the UK, the term British is usually (granted incorrectly) assumed to mean English, much the same as the term American is used to refer to a citizen of the USA- even though the continents are the Americas and therefore technically a Canadian, Brazilian or Cuban would also be an American. but i'm sure you knew that when making your statement about how "The assumption all Americans seem to have, that all Scots want independence from the rest of the uk is stupid".

and for the record- i neither assumed that all Scots want independence from the rest of the UK nor made reference to that in my post. also i am not American.

Posted by: causaubon at December 3, 2007 1:14 PM

oops. sorry for the double post.

Posted by: causaubon at December 3, 2007 1:17 PM

causaubon but outside of the UK, the term British is usually (granted incorrectly) assumed to mean English, much the same as the term American is used to refer to a citizen of the USA- even though the continents are the Americas and therefore technically a Canadian, Brazilian or Cuban would also be an American. but i'm sure you knew that when making your statement about how "The assumption all Americans seem to have, that all Scots want independence from the rest of the uk is stupid"

Okay, you got me on that one, but there is a bit of a difference, because British is incorrectly used as a synonym for England outside the UK, but America is used as a synonym for the US inside the country, and to be fair, I've known both US and Canadian people fail to make distinction between British and English; can't say for Mexicans, Brazilians, Peruvians etc.

Posted by: cockroach at December 3, 2007 1:26 PM

As an outsider, though, I can't help but think that unification of the big Island (I'm excluding Ireland) has been more beneficial to the prosperity and long term stability of England (the whole) than having fractured states.

As opposed to, a never ending Balkans type situation.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at December 3, 2007 1:40 PM

My Scotch Guard is probably not strong enough to wade into this fray unscathed, but I'll post who I thought of re: black directors anyway:

Kasi Lemmons, Eve's Bayou? It probably didn't make a lot of money, but was an independent success that made a profit, right? Well anyway, I wanted there to be the name of a black woman director out there regardless, if only as an "exception that proves the rule" kind of thing. And didn't Ebert name it the best film of the year it came out?

Posted by: be right back at December 3, 2007 1:49 PM

BarbadoSlimAs an outsider, though, I can't help but think that unification of the big Island (I'm excluding Ireland) has been more beneficial to the prosperity and long term stability of England (the whole) than having fractured states.

As opposed to, a never ending Balkans type situation.

Yeah, the Scots played a big part in building the British Empire, and shaping the UK during the industrial revolution; England needs Scotland's votes to stop a perpetual state right wing government being in charge, and Scotland needs England, because if it was independent, it would be the fattest nation in the world (yes, even ousting the US)

Posted by: cockroach at December 3, 2007 1:49 PM

I can't even remember what the original post this thread is attached to is about. I need a drink.

Posted by: Kolby at December 3, 2007 2:02 PM

So help me, cockroach, I DO want to try a deep fried pizza!

But yes, I've heard it's pretty grim.

Actually, I'd *also* like to know why video game movies keep getting made. Bad movies that turn a decent profit I can understand, but does that apply here? Does someone have a breakdown on that?

I couldn't watch "Awake" just because the whole concept makes me wince and squirm, just like the time Dr. Clayton Forrester told Joel his movie this week is like biting down on a double-edged razor blade. I'm squeamish, by the way.

Posted by: Jay at December 3, 2007 2:10 PM

So help me, cockroach, I DO want to try a deep fried pizza!

But yes, I've heard it's pretty grim.

Actually, I'd *also* like to know why video game movies keep getting made. Bad movies that turn a decent profit I can understand, but does that apply here? Does someone have a breakdown on that?

I couldn't watch "Awake" just because the whole concept makes me wince and squirm, just like the time Dr. Clayton Forrester told Joel his movie this week is like biting down on a double-edged razor blade. I'm squeamish, by the way.

Posted by: Jay at December 3, 2007 2:11 PM

To say something on-topic, for a change, I read a quote from Hayden saying that what he found hardest part about 'Awake' was acting unconscious. It made me laugh anyway

Posted by: cockroach at December 3, 2007 2:19 PM

"what he found hardest part about 'Awake' was acting unconscious"

You know, I kinda wondered about that with John Hurt in "The Skeleton Key". Is it difficult to have to be an invalid day in day out on the set, or is it really leisurely? I don't know about unconscious, maybe it's just mentally taxing, by which I mean boring as hell. But wouldn't it be embarrassing to be the actor that ruined the take? "You looked awake!".

As for John, I was soooo disappointed to discover that he was NOT gonna bust out a hammy bayou accent. So disappointed. But he pretty much made up for it in "The Proposition" wherein he commenced ta jigglin good and proper.

Posted by: Jay at December 3, 2007 2:31 PM

"I just think she has a very sophisticated, non-cutesy beauty. I don't think girlfriend's had a cute day in her life. She's probably looked 30 since she was 16."

I agree, but I also do think she's been looking a little rough lately, sort of drawn and too-thin. If she took a few weeks to sleep, eat some carbs, and not adopt a foreign baby, she'd look lovely again. It might also be the overexposure; she's been a huge name in the press for so long that I always think she must be older than she actually is.

Posted by: Geetch at December 3, 2007 2:36 PM

Anne (in Reno): Tennant does have a great English accent on Doctor Who. And, believe me, your plug is no more shameful than what I've been telling every single friend of mine. Anytime I can interject Doctor Who into a conversation, I do. After watching series 1-3, I am hooked on the new version. God, I am such a geek/nerd.

On the accent topic, ugh...seriously...really? Lord, Great Britain/Britain/United Kingdom is the name of the country on a map. There is no such thing as a "Britain" except if your are referring to a generalized identity. Being British just refers to country of origin, meaning Great Britain/ UK. There is no such thing as a British accent. However, there are Welsh, Scottish, Irish, and English accents, and even within those generalized categories, there are subcategories. This is analogous to what Socalled stated as the various regional accents in America (i.e. United States); however still different because no region in America was ever a separate kingdom (well, there were separate Native American nations, but that topic need not be raised). Right, sorry for being a bit pedantic about this topic. I blame it on the OC disorder.

Onto Angelina Jolie, she was my major girl crush until she started resembling Skeletor ("By the power of Greyskull!"). She has one of those faces that needs to have a bit of fat on it because it has so many distinct features. When she loses too much weight (like she has), one just sees an almost cartoonish look. She still is gorgeous, and yes I would leave any man in a moment for her. However, Monica Bellucci is in the number 1 spot right now.

Now drink!! Hooray for a 3 (technically 4) paragraph post!

Posted by: Gigi Worthington at December 3, 2007 3:00 PM

"Your"...obviously means "you". *shakes head in shame*

Posted by: Gigi Worthington at December 3, 2007 3:05 PM

I can't even remember what the original post this thread is attached to is about. I need a drink.

Is that one of the rules from the Official Pajiba Drinking Game?

Posted by: Brian at December 3, 2007 3:14 PM

Well I'm glad people agree with me on the David Tennant love, but I'm starting to realize the problem with me posting on Pajiba first thing in the a.m. before work when everyone else is half done with their days in nice wide-awake time zones.

I FUCKING MEANT ENGLISH, NOT BRITISH. THANK YOU FOR THE PATRONIZING LECTURES.

Yes, I do know the difference, I just got back from visiting family there (England specifically) which is why I'm on the Dr. Who kick in the 1st place, all I wanted to do was share the love, not start a war about what a stupid American I am. Thank you for jumping down my throat, in the future I will stay off of Pajiba until I've had my morning coffee.

Posted by: Anne (in Reno) at December 3, 2007 3:18 PM

Yes, but you sparked lively conversation where these movies might not have. Thanks for the sacrifice.

But now we can hijack completely:

How the hell they gonna bring Rose back?

When will they confirm David for a fifth series? If he leaves would they not announce it until friggin February 2010? (though it would suggest, giving him a wide berth to do plays next year, that they're willing to wait for him)

Will Donna Noble be likeable now?

Hmmmm.

Okay, okay, I'm mostly kidding (about discussing such here, not the questions. These are serious!). Just shirking a bit between processing ILLs.

Posted by: Jay at December 3, 2007 3:34 PM

Anne (in Reno)

I apologise, my response to your post was overly snarky; I'm just sensitive about that particular misuse, and the rest of the posts were aimed at all the other people that jumped into the topic derailment...

Posted by: cockroach at December 3, 2007 3:41 PM

Anne (in Reno): I did not mean to offend. I more or less was referring to the whole weird debate that was raging between cockroach and whomever. In all actuality, I didn't notice the misnomer because you had a Doctor Who related comment in your post. And, I hear you on the morning coffee bit seeing that the West Coast is about three hours behind. My brain does not function properly without my extra strong coffee.

Jay: I seriously think there should be a comment diversion specifically for Doctor Who. However, I agree with you about Rose. I am happy that she is coming back, but how in the hell are they going to do that? Also, I just realized that Kylie Minogue is in the Xmas special which will be interesting. I guess that I am in the minority here, but I quite enjoyed Donna Noble (Catherine Tate) in her guest stint. I liked that she wasn't fawning all over the doctor like Rose or Martha (although, Martha did not do it as often). On David Tennant, I initially did not like him that much as the Doctor, but as series 2 went along, I grew to like him. He's my third favorite doctor because I grew up watching Tom Baker and Peter Davison. But, I hope that he at least comes back for a fifth series. If we have to wait until 2010 to find out, that will be extremely ridiculous. I can't imagine the BBC doing that. Okay...no more comment hijacking.

Posted by: Gigi Worthington at December 3, 2007 3:55 PM

I FUCKING MEANT ENGLISH, NOT BRITISH. THANK YOU FOR THE PATRONIZING LECTURES.

Everybody, sing along...
I jumped down Anne's throat in Reno just to watche her cry

Sorry, couldn't resist

This week's Box-Office Round-Up brought to you by Billy Bragg's England, Half English

Posted by: Brian at December 3, 2007 3:56 PM

Re black directors, I was so ready to point out the Hughes brothers...but everything the did topped out in the mid-30s. So close.

Posted by: Mike at December 3, 2007 4:04 PM

Finallllllly, some recognition for Amy Adams' performance in Drop Dead Gorgeous. And do that Underappreciated Gem treatment toute suite.

Posted by: jeffelavar at December 3, 2007 4:15 PM

oooh please make it an underappreciated gem...it deserves it. it's the only film i've ever liked kirsten dunst in...and denise richards, i guess.

Posted by: citizen_cris at December 3, 2007 5:10 PM

I know that everybody keeps talking smack about video game movies...but it's getting a bit tired.

The first Tome Raider was a really fun movie. And I loved, loved, loved Silent Hill--which was also financially successful.

Posted by: trooper6 at December 3, 2007 5:45 PM

I am catching up on the doctors, I started with Tennant and somebody else is buying the Christopher Eccleston season so I don't have to fork over. But my husband came home last week with a large box with both Tom Baker and Peter Davison on the front and I haven't touched it yet... Does anyone like doctors 1-3? Four and five seem to be the biggies and then we skip ahead to nine and ten, but are there any others I should hit in between? Although if I have to wait until 2010 for more (though I will have plenty of time to catch up by then) I will be pissed!

I'm sure they'll manage to bring Rose back somehow as they seem to be pretty much advertising her return now. I did like her though, but I have to catch up with the new girl and hopefully stream the new Christmas one with Kylie Minogue (now is she as big in the U.S. as she seems to be over there? I just don't get it).

Posted by: Anne (in Reno) at December 3, 2007 7:25 PM

This is analogous to what Socalled stated as the various regional accents in America (i.e. United States); however still different because no region in America was ever a separate kingdom

Never say that to a native Texan unless you want to hear quite a lot about the Republic of Texas. Really. Bad idea.

Posted by: reemul at December 3, 2007 8:10 PM

When you started watching seems to imprint who "Your Doctor" is. Eccleston, therefore, was quite excited and honored at the prospect of being the Naughts kids' Doctor. Baker and Davison were the popularity peaks, I think, plus Baker did it for so damn long, but Troughton and Pertwee have got their diehards too.

There's a great documentary on the first 8, "The Story of Doctor Who" that BBC ran in 2003, I think, just as BBC Wales was starting to work up a new show. You can find a torrent or emule or something of it. It gives a nice history of who's who (seriously, no pun intended) and their popularity and ultimate fates at the hands of the BBC and ratings and such.

Mind you, Tennant's confirmed to be around two more years, series 4 and then three one-offs during 2009. Series 5 is confirmed, but they've teasingly not mentioned actors. Since he's doing Hamlet next year on stage, he couldn't do the 9 month production cycle for a full series which starts the summer before. So, like I said, it seems telling that they seem to be waiting for him and letting 2009 be a sort of interim.

No, Kylie is not of the same stature here. Catherine Tate is completely unknown, so she was definitely "who?" as opposed to "ooh!" for "Runaway Bride" (and then you have "yeah, I think I've heard of her" Billie inbetween). But then, the Doctor himself ain't a household name. My blue pinstriped suit and sonic screwdriver on Halloween can tell you that for certain! (I look nothing like David Tennant but I look NOTHING like Christopher Eccleston, and I couldn't pull off the clothes either. I could at least sorta do the right hairstyle)

Posted by: Jay at December 3, 2007 8:21 PM

Actually, if anyone does want to talk Who amongst themselves my blog's just sitting there waiting for input. I don't generate activity, *you* do (barring aforementioned Afternoon Comment Diversion here).

Posted by: Jay at December 3, 2007 8:36 PM

As far as black directors go, did anyone else mention Clark Johnson? He was an actor on Homicide, and has a pretty classy TV-directing resume (West Wing, The Shield, The Wire, the movie Boycott) and he directed S.W.A.T., which opened at 37 mil and topped out at 116 mil, I think. There's your man right there.

Posted by: tommytimp at December 3, 2007 8:43 PM

Firstly, HOORAY! Drop Dead Gorgeous! It is so very, very underrated, and probably the only good thing Dunst ever did.

Secondly, because all the glorious Who-dorking was too much to resist commentary on, YAY for the return of Donna Noble! S4 better not turn her into yet another 'ILU DOKTAR!' companion. Fawning young girls (and Jacks) grow tiresome, dammit.

Oh, and Anne (in Reno), regarding past Doctors, he gets A LOT of hate, but I'd definitely recommend checking out Seven. He is magnificent. I'm a Six fancier too, but I know better than to recommend him to anyone. Ever. Also, Two's era, though most of it survives only in reconstructions I believe, was particularly fantastic. If only for Zoe and Jamie. And Eights (if you're interested in any of the spin-off media) audio adventures are brilliant, and Big Finish deserves cupcakes really, for EVERYTHING they produce. All of their Who productions are very good, actually. Worth looking into.
(Dr. Evelyn Smythe almost deserves a series of her own. She is that marvelous.)

Posted by: the hel at December 3, 2007 10:11 PM

I must also profess my love for Drop Dead Gorgeous. I have it on DVD and it gets a regular workout.

Posted by: Noo at December 4, 2007 12:13 AM

I'm pretty sure Quentin Tarantino wishes he were black. I know that doesn't count, but I couldn't resist saying it.

I also wanted to say that I love this site, and this whole article is the reason why. Dustin took the weekly round up of the box office and made it seem almost entirely about a good movie from a few years ago. And for some reason, in the comments section, we ended up talking about Dr. Who.

My parents got me hooked on it when I was little, and now even watching the new episodes rocks, although they pale in comparision to my memories of the older shows.

And to add my own little tid-bit to the discussion, did you know Tom Baker was in Dungeons & Dragons?

Posted by: Carpe Pancakes! at December 4, 2007 1:41 AM

Afternoon Comment Diversion (with a prize, perhaps)?

Name 5 actresses BarbadoSlim actually likes (BSlim cannot participate).

By the way, I liked Fuqua's King Arthur as well. For the some reasons you do, BSlim, albeit with very different motivations.

Posted by: Daphne at December 4, 2007 1:43 AM

"The swan ate my baby! The swan ate my baby!"
I love that movie. Allison 'Underappreciated' Janney is in it, too, which only adds to its awesomeness and makes it even more of a candidate for Underappreciated Gem status.

Posted by: BiblioGeek at December 4, 2007 4:42 AM

Well...I think that I've taken the drinking game a bit too far (although it should be stated that drinking can never go too far)...Onto Doctor Who!

Jay: I whole heartedly agree with you! I was raised with Baker and Davison which makes me love them more than most doctors; however, I do enjoy Jon Pertwee and some Sylvester McCoy from time to time (although I did detest the whole Colin Baker Time Lord trial debacle. It was quite annoying). Obviously, young memories may triumph in hindsight; however, seeing that I am a grown woman, Mr. Tennant is indeed the most handsome Doctor that has been. He doesn't need jellie babies to prove that point. Also, I cannot fathom people not recognizing the Doctor (I really was raised on him so I know any incarnation from cricket uniform to cape to grandfather). When will the States realize the wonderfulness of the Doctor? Very annoying! Well, then...off to more drinking...I think?!

Posted by: Gigi Worthington at December 4, 2007 5:24 AM

I'm probably late to the party but can I add a very big YAY to the prospect of a Drop Dead Gorgeous post. Ever since I saw it (underaged) I've been in love with Kirsten Dunst. She can do no wrong!

As a bona fide Scot,(with the best accent in the world!) when a non-British person says an accent is 'British' I take it that they mean 'English'.

And as for the issue of Independance, does it really matter? I don't take offense to being called British instead of Scottish (Exception:football, where it always matters).

Oh and my friend, who knows David Tennant, always says how he's such a decent guy.

Posted by: JC at December 4, 2007 8:42 AM

In terms of black directors, what about the Hughes brothers? They directed From Hell with Johnny Depp. Didn't that make some money?

Posted by: Dan at December 4, 2007 10:55 AM

oh, drop dead gorgeous. you represent all that is near and dear to me about being minnesotan. especially the funeral bar of jell-o salads. review it, pajiba, review it!

Posted by: shyestviolet at December 4, 2007 11:57 AM

Drop Dead Gorgeous is truly, truly an underappreciated gem; almost a classic. Most underappreciated role in said film? Kirsten D.'s mother's best friend, played to perfection by Alison Janney. When she leans into the camera right at the end of the TV interview and deadpans: "I got some"! Perfection.

Posted by: YeahVoodooChild at December 7, 2007 2:25 PM





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