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Matt Smith is Returning for Another Season of "Doctor Who," But Not So Fast Amy Pond and Rory

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Trade News | Comments (52)



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The Wonky Ratings Stuff: Government-subsidized television in the UK is a mysterious beast, especially to those of us over in the United States that expect solid ratings are all a show needs to ensure a return. It’s certainly a huge factor in the UK, but production costs also play heavily into if and how a series is ordered. If I’m not mistaken, because many of the television shows are government backed, a recession can even affect the television schedule (it’s why the last few episodes with David Tennant were movie specials, instead of a regular season). The reason why it’s taken so long for “Torchwood” to return to the air, for instance, was never its ratings. The matter is one of financing, which is why the UK eventually had to partner with Starz to get the show made. There’s also something called the Audience Appreciation Index in the United Kingdom, which is fantastic. Shows with smaller audiences can still be renewed if those shows score well with the people who do watch, which means a show like “Firefly” or “Arrested Development” would never be cancelled in the UK.

That is to say, when I heard that Doctor Who would indeed return next year for another 14 episodes (which includes the usual Christmas episode), I also saw a suggestion that ratings in the Matt Smith era haven’t exactly been spectacular. In doing some research on those ratings, I bit more off than I could chew in trying to understand UK television. It’s strange to me, for instance, that the UK would air two of its most popular shows, “Doctor Who” and “Britain’s Got Talent” not only against each other, but on Saturdays, which is a night that the networks don’t even bother with here in the States. Better weather can also have a demonstrable effect on ratings, too, because there’s a smaller pool of viewers in the UK and they experience similar weather. Also, no shit, if it’s a sunny Saturday, who is going to stay in to watch the telly? Soccer competition can also wreak havoc on ratings.

Still, from what I gather, ratings during the Matt Smith era range from a low of 5 million to a high of around 7 million, which is down from the nine and ten million that the David Tennant era provided. But, again, these are live ratings, and do not account for the large number of time-shifted viewers. Ratings like that would get a show renewed in the United States, and since we have five times the population, 7 million is obviously a huge number for the UK (the equivalent of 35 million in the States, which not even “American Idol” approaches anymore).

I still don’t understand why people in the UK watch television on Saturday. But then again, I also don’t understand how Graham Norton can extract far better interviews from his guests than any American talk show host (why doesn’t someone here adopt his interview format?). I also don’t understand why a show like “Never Mind the Buzzcocks” (which I love) can attract much of the top talent in the UK as guests, while the ratings juggernaut “Dancing with the Stars” can only attract C-level stars in America. To be honest, I prefer the way things work in the UK.

Speaking of Buzzcocks, fans of Tennant (shirtless or not) really must watch the episode of that show he hosted. Even when he’s not the Doctor, he is outstanding (as is Catherine Tate).

The News: This is the exciting part: Matt Smith will return next year for another season of “Doctor Who.” It will be another regular season order, and there’s no word yet on whether it will be split into two half seasons. Bravo.

But, and I’ll do my best here to dance around any spoilers for the American audience a week behind the UK Spring finale, it may — and in fact probably is — the last season for both Amy Pond (Karen Gillan) and Rory (Arthur Darvill). In recent interviews with both, they spoke of their time on “Doctor Who” in the past tense and it appears that Arthur Darvill would have a scheduling conflict, anyway, as he’s committed to a play in London during the time in which the next season of “Who” would be filming. They’ve both been on for two years now, which is as long as any other companion since the show returned in 2005. It’s certainly not official, but it’s probably time for them to move on. Karen Gillan, I have a spare bedroom if you need it.

I don’t know who it will be, but my theory on Amy Pond’s replacement as companion is a younger version of River Song, to account for the long and romantic affair between the Doctor and progressively younger River.

One other item of note: After the success of Neil Gaimman’s episode of “Doctor Who,” there are rumors — according to Combom — that Terry Pratchett might take a swing at an episode, although he has denied meeting with Moffat to discuss the prospect.

Finally, “Doctor Who” and “Torchwood” news is typically left in the capable hands of Steven Lloyd Wilson, but Steven is headed this week to Russia for the next two months as part of his Ph.D program. We hope he’ll be able to continue contributing throughout the summer, but that will depend on the reliability of his Internet while he’s there. In either case, he should be back in the August, if not sooner.

(Source: Dark Horizons)









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(it’s why the last few episodes with David Tennant were movie specials, instead of a regular season)

Oh, I'd thought that was because Tennant was leaving and would/could only commit to so many.


I still don’t understand why people in the UK watch television on Saturday.

What do you do on Saturday nights? I don't watch much tv here anymore because there's nothing on. And never any films damn it! But it used to be a big telly night when I was a kid. I can't remember if that's cos there wasn't much on in the week or not.

(It looks like, from what I can gather from reading a lot of The Guardian's archives this morning, that they might have handled Tennant's departure differently if there'd been a full season order, but b/c of the economics of it, they couldn't afford one that year. -- DR)

Posted by: Carrie at June 8, 2011 9:23 AM

Hooray for more Matt Smith. I like him more and more. Rory's growing on me the same way Mickey did in the first two Nu-Who series, but I feel like it might be good for him and Amy to disembark before we get tired of them.

And good luck Almost-The-Doctor Steven Steven Lloyd Wilson!

Posted by: Socrates_Johnson at June 8, 2011 9:25 AM

terry pratchett....doctor...who?

i'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: matty at June 8, 2011 9:27 AM

(It looks like, from what I can gather from reading a lot of The Guardian's archives this morning, that they might have handled Tennant's departure differently if there'd been a full season order, but b/c of the economics of it, they couldn't afford one that year. -- DR)

Huh. Much as I loved Tennant and Ten, I wish they had handled it differently, because most of those specials were gumph and his ending was rotten. No, am still not over it.

Posted by: Carrie at June 8, 2011 9:34 AM

Should just say that the BBC is not Government subsided, the license fee is separate thing, so the BBC can argue against the government and not risk huge repercussions.(The BBC is supposed to be politically neutral, but what with comedy shows like Have I got News for you, that can't be censored like that-they make huge jokes about that if it happens) bias does come through.

I'm pretty sure the Pratchett rumour is just because Terry and Neil are friends and they wrote Good Omens together, but that was the only way they've collaborated together to that extent.

Posted by: cockroach at June 8, 2011 9:35 AM

As for comparing the quality of guests that Buzzcocks gets to an American reality show, that's apples and oranges.We on gets z-listers on our reality tv as well, buzzcocks is more akin to a chat show.

Posted by: cockroach at June 8, 2011 9:46 AM

I actually really like Matt Smith as the Doctor. He plays "old soul" really well. I just wish he wasn't so freaky alien looking. What? He's playing an alien? Oh shut up. I want to get a little misty when the Doctor's on the screen, and he doesn't mist me up.

I'm not sure we'll get River Song as a full time companion, as they still have to meet backwards in time here and there. However, we still have to find out if she killed the Doctor, so that could happen this season.

I wouldn't mind Rory as a full time companion WITHOUT Amy, but I don't think that will ever happen. Still, this has to have done some good stuff to Arthur Darvill's career.

Posted by: BWeaves at June 8, 2011 9:48 AM

I'm not torn up about Rory and Pond...although I like Rory much much more than Amy. Amy is starting to grate on my nerves.

It's also about time for new companions.

Posted by: Candee at June 8, 2011 9:54 AM

Bear in mind that while BBC is government-subsidized (although really much more public-subsidized though the household television license) other channels are not supported to the same extent so it's still a competitive thing to air good shows against each other. BBC (like RTE in Ireland) doesn't really have to care about ratings because if we refuse to pay our TV licenses we are fined and then jailed (my Dad was jailed for a week for refusing to pay the TV license back in the 1970s) so they get the money regardless of whether they air good programming or crap. Exhibit A: 30 years of EastEnders!

Posted by: PaddyDog at June 8, 2011 9:54 AM

@cockroach: And it's still better than the 179 versions of Law and Order, 214 C.S.I.'s, and everything on FOX.

Posted by: Kahntahmp at June 8, 2011 9:58 AM

OK, I've never seen (or heard of) Never Mind the Buzzcocks before, but I just watched that clip, and I really liked it. Everyone was charming and funny. It's like playing Trivial Pursuit where no one really cares about the game, it's just a catalyst for conversation and jokes.

Posted by: BWeaves at June 8, 2011 10:00 AM

they get the money regardless of whether they air good programming or crap. Exhibit A: 30 years of EastEnders!
PaddyDog

Not the best example, because however good the show is (I don't know, I avoid soaps like lice) it always pulls in good ratings

Yeah it is bull that a licence fee has to be paid if you want to watch any tv, in this day and age with digital. It should be a simple case of pay for BBC channels if you want them, otherwise they won't be part of your digital package(along with the iplayer being password protected or something)

Posted by: cockroach at June 8, 2011 10:05 AM

That show is AMAZING. Why can't we just make that show here? Could you imagine if RDJ was on something like that, desperately yet charmingly humming a tune? The nation's loins would explode.

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at June 8, 2011 10:06 AM

They've been including the time-shifted viewers into the ratings, but it takes about a week to calculate them, so there's been 5-something million in the "overnights" this year and then 7 to 8 million once they tabulate everybody else, so it's doing fine. The ratings don't include the iPlayer, BBC's streaming video, but they know it's got a large audience too.

Posted by: Jay at June 8, 2011 10:09 AM

cockroach:

I wasn't referring to the ratings of East Enders, rather the crap factor. However, East Enders will never be canceled.

Since its inception I have firmly believed that East Enders is a government propaganda effort, originally conceived by the Thatcher regime to make everyone think their lives were great because of course they were in comparison with the misery in Albert Square.
In the Labor years, they kept it going to create a facade of everyone being looked after:
"Look, a square of Victorian bay-fronted homes with lovely park in central London and it's never been gentrified: that's how Labor looks out for you".
Now I'm waiting for the Albert Square teenager who only has to work the fruit stall on Saturdays to pay the "minimal college fees" imposed by the loving Government story line and my theory will be complete.

Posted by: PaddyDog at June 8, 2011 10:33 AM

I'll be ecstatic to see the end of Amy.

Honestly, I didn't think the Gaiman episode was that great. I mean, it was fine (except for Amy), but if I hadn't noticed who wrote it I don't think it would've made much of an impression.

Posted by: Todd at June 8, 2011 10:34 AM

This really should come to no surprise since most companions cycle through every couple of years anyway. Rory has been growing into a solid character. But Amy for me has never found her feet. I don't know if it's due to poor character developing, poor acting on Gillan's part or a combo thereof. Amy has been afflicted with "Companion Screaming Syndrome" which seemed to affect many of the TARDIS's earlier crew. That might have worked decades ago but again, I just wished she'd shut up. Not the best way to look at a companion.

I just have found little for her to identify with her. With Rose it was her mundane life and loss of her father, with Mickey it was always feeling like his best wasn't good enough, with Jack it was atonement but having fun doing so, with Martha it was realizing it was time to grow up, with Donna it was calling people out on their bad behavior, and with Wilfred it was getting dreams fulfilled by finally being brave. With Amy....ah I've tried to figure out to no avail. She's a spoiled, arrogant, and immature brat, and if I were the Doctor, I would have thanked her for the fish stix, made her a balloon animal and been on my cosmic way. She doesn't look at the prospect of traveling through space and time as a sense of wonder the previous ones did. I haven't seen a genuine friendship between her and the Doctor (or Rory for that matter) and I don't feel a sense of loss in her impending absence...relief is more like it. Like the kind when Mel Bush left the Seventh Doctor. Somewhere out there old Glitz is probably ready to heave her out an airlock.

Posted by: bleujayone at June 8, 2011 10:36 AM

Add me to the Ready-to-throw-Amy-a-farewell-party list. Though I found some sympathy for her in the spring finale episode, overall she has been mostly an annoyance. She has been allowed to overrun too many episodes and I may be the only one, but the whole Rory-Amy love story has me completely weary. I watch Doctor Who for the Doctor and his adventures, not his companion's romance. Now I'm not saying I haven't enjoyed Gillan at all, I just feel we've been force fed too much Amy.

On the other hand, Eleven has won me over, melty face and all.

Posted by: Cindy at June 8, 2011 10:46 AM

"I also don’t understand how Graham Norton can extract far better interviews from his guests than any American talk show host"
Thats cause they drink before, during and after!

Posted by: fuzzbutt at June 8, 2011 10:52 AM

Love me some Wilfred Mott. One of the better companions during the Davies era of Doctor Who.

Posted by: bignick at June 8, 2011 10:53 AM

I have to say I'll miss Rory. I really like the juxtaposition of the two super-old-seen-it-all guys, one flighty and world-saving and the other just trying to have a normal(ish) life with his hot wife. It was a nice setup, and I think balanced out the hyperactive bounciness of Matt Smith well.

And Terry Pratchett writing an episode could be the best thing ever. If he gets help writing a plot that doesn't get super confusing in the last 50 pages (5 minutes?).

Posted by: esme at June 8, 2011 10:54 AM

Thank the lord for Amy Pond's departure. She's terrible.

Matt Smith is so-so.

The writing has gone wayyyy downhill. This season has been terrible thus far.

Posted by: kerminy at June 8, 2011 10:57 AM

Just reading elsewhere that there are issues with budgeting at BBC Wales and though a 14 episode order has been given for next season, the BBC hasn't said whether all those will air in 2012. Could be more 'specials' on the horizon. Bah.

Posted by: Carrie at June 8, 2011 11:09 AM

My initial problem with Amy's character has been that it was based on the same premise as The Time Traveler's Wife, i.e., so unoriginal. As the show has progressed, Matt Smith has grown on me, but they've written Amy terribly. She would have to be an amazing actor (which she isn't) to convince me that she cares in the slightest about Rory given the way she treats him...again, not Gillam's fault just really bad character writing.
Probably my second least favorite companion after Donna. Maybe the show just needs to stay away from Gingers.

Posted by: PaddyDog at June 8, 2011 11:12 AM

By the way, in that clip when Catherine Tate says she didn't know his name wasn't "Doctor Who", did anyone else picture Jay launching himself out of the audience and slapping her?

Posted by: PaddyDog at June 8, 2011 11:14 AM

Donna was awesome and I demand you take back your insensitive remarks regarding gingers, PaddyDog!

Posted by: Socrates_Johnson at June 8, 2011 11:19 AM

That's such a wonderful thing about Doctor Who. If you don't like the actors or characters, just wait long enough and try again. Rose grew on me over time, Martha was a disappointment, I LOVED Donna and cried when she left, and Amy has ranged from "sure, okay, man she's gorgeous" to "god I hate this whiny selfish brat, man she's gorgeous" for me (Rory, on the other hand? I think Rory should stay forever. The Doctor and The Nurse. And Rory's like 1100 years older than him, too. It could work.). And I know lots of people who feel any endless number of variations on the above. Some people hated Donna, some people loved Martha, some people hate the female human companion formula altogether, etc.

And that's cool, because sooner or later, we all get something we like. Same goes for the Doctors, although with the exception of Eccleston, they all tend to last a while longer.

Posted by: Nat Kittyface at June 8, 2011 11:19 AM

I think I'll call it "antipondthy". Yeah.

Posted by: branded at June 8, 2011 11:26 AM

Donna sucked, Socrates_J.
She never let one episode go without screaming at the Doctor "get me out of this mess, this is all your fault" or some such blather. She was a harpy of the worst proportions. The Donna seasons are the only ones since childhood where I have muted the TV in certain scenes because her grating voice became too much.

As for Gingers, I didn't say anything insensitive. I simply suggested that since the writers seem to write bad character when they have a Ginger, they should stay away from casting them.

Tennant's Doctor was awesome and because he had the misfortune to have Donna as a companion, I believe many people let his awesomeness rub off on Donna. To recap: Donna sucked.

Posted by: PaddyDog at June 8, 2011 11:29 AM

So Donna started out horrible, and grew, probably more than any Nu-Who companion than I can think of. This is one reason why I like her now, despite hating her at first. I don't know if this was deliberate or not, but I found it effective. She's also the only female companion to date (again talking Nu-Who here) to have a truly platonic relationship with the Doctor. Even with Amy they are constantly putting in lines to make it seem like she is conflicted. There are two instances of this in the upcoming episode that I can think of, though I obviously won't spoil that here.

Of course you weren't being insensitive. I just felt like being indignant for no reason.

Posted by: Socrates_Johnson at June 8, 2011 11:43 AM

Just like a Ginger: Indignant for no reason.

Posted by: PaddyDog at June 8, 2011 11:45 AM

Matt Smith is MY Doctor, and I am only willing to share him with you as long as you are nice to him. Any disparagement of him and I will shoot you dead, River Song style, and then bring the Doctor home to my cozy little cell at Storm Cage. Where we will be joined by Sexy/TARDIS and have plenty of adventures without you.

Shut up! Not like that! Still shut up!

Posted by: mistress of all evil at June 8, 2011 12:06 PM

I would probably like Amy Pond a lot more if you'd quit shoving the cheesecake header pics down my throat. It's hard (HUR!) to take the conversation seriously when you're objectifying her from the get-go.

Posted by: Craig at June 8, 2011 12:23 PM

I've never really hated any of the Doctor's companions when they were actually onscreen, for the most part. I like Rose well enough for the seasons she was involved, but it got on my nerves how the Doctor wouldn't stop obsessing over her after she left. Martha was actually my favorite for a while, and while Donna wasn't my favorite, I at least appreciated the fact that she wasn't pining over the good Doctor all the time. As for Amy? Jury's still out for me, honestly. I kinda want to see how her character arc finishes before I passt final judgment.

Has the writing really gone downhill, kerminy? 'Cause I gotta tell you, the Doc Who specials with Tennant were way worse than anything we've seen with the Matt Smith doctors.

Posted by: SJ at June 8, 2011 12:35 PM

That is some extraordinarily ugly lingerie. Sorry, Pond!

Posted by: Lauren at June 8, 2011 12:42 PM

About the Watching-TV-on-Saturday-Night thing: I've always wondered how many people are really out and about on the town, partying it up. How many just say they are, when they're really at home watching movies? How many people don't live in towns or cities that have an active night life? I know that MrFig and I, for one, don't really like bars or going out on Saturdays much at all--even less now that I work for most of Saturday.

I might be wrong, but I suspect that American networks would be surprised if they put good, popular shows on Saturdays. I'm thinking they'd get really good ratings.

Posted by: Figgy at June 8, 2011 12:49 PM

Nat Kittyface: "Rory, on the other hand? I think Rory should stay forever. The Doctor and The Nurse. And Rory's like 1100 years older than him, too. It could work."

I like the way you think. I vote for that!

Posted by: BWeaves at June 8, 2011 1:44 PM

Has the writing really gone downhill, kerminy? 'Cause I gotta tell you, the Doc Who specials with Tennant were way worse than anything we've seen with the Matt Smith doctors.

Posted by: SJ at June 8, 2011 12:35 PM

I disagree. The writing is terrible. First, they have Amy marry Rory and allegedly love him, but they write absolutely nothing to even indicate that Amy likes, let alone loves, Rory. The actors have no chemistry, but at the same time, the writing is all Amy in love with the doctor and pining for the doctor. It is distracting.

Second, Amy is whiny and selfish and has no redeeming qualities. They have given no reason why the doctor would put up with her or even like her.

Third, the stories have been pretty bad. I know others here like "The Doctor's Wife", but I thought that was terrible and did not fit within the whoverse at all, the almost people was pretty bad (and frankly, derivative of a lot of other who episodes); and the pirate episode was unwatchable.

The first two episodes setting up the season were decent, but not great.

The Tennant specials were not great, but they were decent and fun. I don't think the same can be said of most of this season. I feel half the time like whoever is writing the shows has never really watched Who.

Posted by: kerminy at June 8, 2011 2:04 PM

And, I thought Pond was hot the first episode she was in, wearing the short pants cop outfit. But since then - not so great. She's pretty, but the character is so bad that she's not sexy or alluring at all.

And that header pix is not attractive in the least. What the hell is she wearing?

Posted by: kerminy at June 8, 2011 2:06 PM

And, I'm saying that and I have a thing for gingers.

Posted by: kerminy at June 8, 2011 2:06 PM

That clip was funny as hell.

Posted by: MyySharona at June 8, 2011 2:27 PM

I think Amy was more of a disappointment for me because the young Amy was so great. I thought "this is what Amelia grew into?" I think it would be cool for The Doctor to have another child companion. Or Rory could stay. Or The Doctor could get another male companion. Basically anything but another girl in her early twenties.

"The Waters of Mars" is the absolute worst episode of Doctor Who. The absolute worst. The pirate episode is really really really bad, but it's shorter so it comes in second.

Posted by: Three-nineteen at June 8, 2011 2:31 PM

I'm not as down on Rory and Amy as many of the rest of you are. I'm really not down on them at all. That said, I'm ready for some new companion blood. I have mixed feelings about the prospect of full-time River Song. Now that Moffat has opened the door on this romance, it does demand to be addressed, and it could be done well. I just have worries about that becoming too much the focus of the program.

Posted by: DarthCorleone at June 8, 2011 2:49 PM

Oh God, I don't want River Song to be the new companion. Sorry, apparently I'm the only one who CAN'T FLIPPING STAND HER, but for all of Moffat's complaining about how he never liked Rose because she was "needy", River is nothing more than Moffat's version of Rose.

I watch Doctor Who to watch Doctor Who. If I wanted to read The Time Traveler's Wife again, then I'd go do that. I don't need the show to get all Henry and Clare-ified.

Posted by: Molly at June 8, 2011 2:58 PM

I love Pterry so I really hope he has absolutely nothing to do with this crappy, shitty, Doctor Who pish.

If he does, then may Offler bite his balls off.

Posted by: Ballymena Bob at June 8, 2011 5:40 PM

I think Amy and Rory's story will be done by the end of this season so I'm not really torn up about them moving on. I like the characters well enough, though at the beginning of S5 I preferred Amy to Rory and that has definitely tipped the other way at this point.

I am really glad that Smith is staying on for at least another year. When I saw the first photos of him as The Doctor I thought he would make a terrible Eleven, but I'm happy to have been proven wrong on that (so very, very wrong).

I could see River as the next companion but I really hope they finally drop the 'Spoilers' stuff, put them on more of an even footing and let them have their adventures without every encounter turning into a mystery of timey-wimey temporal mechanics.

Posted by: csb at June 8, 2011 5:50 PM

Saturdays are the main telly night here in the UK and I can't really explain why. I suppose it's because people work all week so we're meant to be extra entertained at the weekend? I don't know. It's mainly all light entertainment stuff though like X factor and Ant and Dec, drama is saved for during the week. I'm looking forward to later in the year when both Doctor Who and X factor will be on Saturdays and X factor and Downton Abbey will be on Sundays (I love x factor as a TV show, not because it has any musical value). I don't get that American idol is on during the week in the states it's such a weekend thing.

Posted by: Katie at June 8, 2011 8:39 PM

Seriously me and my flatmates had regular X factor/Downton Abbey Sundays last year. Usually with Pizza. THE BEST.

Posted by: Katie at June 8, 2011 8:40 PM

As the head of SPHERE (Stop Pond Hating in Every Region of Earth), I am disappointed in the scurilous dislike for this hot Scottish companion. I am now launching a new initiave, SPEARS (Save Pond - Eleven's Awesome Rory Spouse). Please join me if you haven't been brainwashed by all these unjust comments or the bad writing.

Posted by: Uriah Creep at June 9, 2011 12:57 AM

Um....Right. Meanwhile, I'll be in the back shining up the spare Dalek gun. Y'know. Just in case Moffat can't take the hint.

Posted by: bleujayone at June 9, 2011 9:22 AM

I am mildy interested in SPHERE, but for some ReasOn youR Young new initiative SPEARS catches my interest more. Though if Amy is awesome it seems we need a new word to capture Rory's greatness.

Posted by: Ender at June 9, 2011 11:39 AM

Dammit, dammit, dammit. "The Planet of the Dead" is the absolute worst episode of Doctor Who. Not "Waters of Mars", which was the best of the movies and very good in its own right. I repeat, "The Planet of the Dead" is the absolute worst episode of Doctor Who. Thank you.

Posted by: Three-nineteen at June 9, 2011 8:12 PM