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Why Do Good People Keep Showing Up in Tyler Perry Flicks

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Trade News | March 20, 2009 | Comments (113)

What’s more mysterious than Tyler Perry’s inexplicable box-office success? The personalities that he manages to rope into his films. The latest? Mary J. Blige has been cast, along with Oscar nominated Taraji P. Henson in I Can Do Bad All By Myself. Blige with play a nightclub manager and singer in the film, based on one of Tyler Perry’s earlier plays. Perry’s signature character, Madea, will also show up in the movie.

But why? Why would Mary J. Blige appear in a Tyler Perry film? She’s amazing. She’s a fucking hip-hop goddess. She doesn’t need the exposure, and she sure as hell doesn’t need to lower herself to that level.

But, Blige and Henson aren’t alone. Here are five other personalities, not even including Janet Jackson and Alfre Woodard, who have been snagged by Perry.

Derek Luke in Madea Goes to Jail
Sanaa Lathan in The Family that Preys
Angela Basset in Meet the Browns
Maya Angelou in Madea’s Family Reunion
Kathy Bates in The Family that Preys

Well, at least why know why the caged bird sings with a fearful trill.


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Comments

You just couldn't resist that last one could you?

Posted by: Smokin at March 20, 2009 11:31 AM

Rowles, if only that fucking Kevin Smith had the same box office success as Perry I wouldn’t have to listen to your constant whine about Perry’s success. And in between your job as Smith’s personal barker and fluffer, you can tell him that hawking his dvds at his gatherings is beneath that of a so called successful director.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 11:32 AM

Hey gang! Michael Bay here!

Cram it up your ass, Pookie!

Michael Bay, signing off!

Posted by: Michael Bay at March 20, 2009 11:35 AM

You wish you homo.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 11:36 AM

Hey gang! Michael Bay here!

Homo like a fox!

Michael Bay, signing off!

Posted by: Michael Bay at March 20, 2009 11:44 AM

Oooo, Michael Bay showed up to argue with Pookie about Tyler Perry. Imma pop me some popcorn and just hit "refresh" on this thread allllllll day.

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at March 20, 2009 11:47 AM

Hey Michael, are you a bottom or a top?

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 11:49 AM

Get a clue! Like there are millions of decent, leading roles around for black actors. They do it to make a living. I don't like TP, but he does provide work for black actors, even if the work is shite.

Posted by: khia213 at March 20, 2009 11:51 AM

Hey buddy, I don’t feel comfortable playing your sexually charged games. Now if you want to talk about cinema we can do that. But I will not be a part of smut talk.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 11:52 AM

Must... Resist... Pookie's... Smith-Fanboy... baiting. Mustn't... feed... trolls!

Posted by: Optimus Rhyme at March 20, 2009 11:53 AM

Don't let Pookie fool you, Mr. Bay. He's a surprisingly gentle lover of men. I'm convinced that it's also been aiding his grammar.

Posted by: I Love Beets at March 20, 2009 12:01 PM

Roles for black actors in Hollywood boil down to action star, hired gun, athlete, cannon fodder, comedic sidekick, criminal, street-wise hustler, Magical Negro and, if you're Morgan Freeman or Keith David, gravelly-voiced yet warm narrator. Women also have the options of sassy, overweight housekeeper, "mammy" and oversexed devil woman/temptress. Perry's characters are stereotypical, poorly-written, trite and often embarrassing, but they at least offer actors a chance to do something different.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at March 20, 2009 12:02 PM

Wow! What is it with black people and their hate for Perry? Perry’s problem is that he gives blacks jobs in the movie industry. I guess when you own your own studio you can do that. I guess blacks still suffer from the disease that causes them to let white people tell them what’s good for them.

You can’t tell me anything bad about Perry, Perry builds up his community, employs people from his community, and invest in his community. But yet no one here has yet to mention a goddamn thing about how white directors portrayed blacks in Hollywood long before Perry arrived on the set. Lets not talk about the beneficent white director.

So please continue to portray Perry as some sort of black boogeyman and have these brainwashed black folk around here dancing to your tune.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 12:27 PM

even if the work is shite.

You make Robert Townsend cry.

Posted by: Jay at March 20, 2009 12:27 PM

Aw, relax, Optimus, it's okay. He doesn't even exist, so don't sweat it.

Posted by: Jay at March 20, 2009 12:29 PM

Well, ok then, I'm sold Jay. I guess if you say it is shit then it is shit. I want everyone in the world to not go see Perry's movies because Jay says Perry's movies are shit. There Jay.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 12:36 PM

brainwashed black folk around here dancing to your tune.

Doooo-dar, doooo-dar...

Posted by: branded at March 20, 2009 12:36 PM

wow
that is all

Posted by: blacksred at March 20, 2009 12:39 PM

See? Now he's babbling, like a spambot picking out random words to respond to. Just a ghost in the machine. And with the spambots becoming wittier and less predictable he's becoming obsolete too.

Posted by: Jay at March 20, 2009 12:40 PM

My only problem with Perry is that his movies are fucking boring. I require a much higher degree of sex and violence than his films are able to provide, and no offense to anyone who just loooves him, but I kinda feel like all his movies have become a cheap knock-off of Soul Food and Mrs. Doubtfire. I'm glad he hires black actors and gives back, blahblahblah, but he should maybe think about putting out less than a hundred films a year and start putting out fewer, better films.

Same goes for you, Apatow.

Posted by: The Pink Hulk at March 20, 2009 12:47 PM

No no no Jay, don't start with the babbling routine. You said Perry’s movies were shit did you not? How many of Perry’s movies have you’ve seen?

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 12:51 PM

Can't even follow a conversation. It's almost sad, really.

Posted by: Jay at March 20, 2009 12:54 PM

No, Jay! Without Pookie, who will I go to for sweet, sweet lovin'?

Posted by: I Love Beets at March 20, 2009 12:55 PM

I'm easy.

Maybe Mary J. is all Tyler needs to get by.

Posted by: admin at March 20, 2009 12:58 PM

I actually saw a perry play and shed tears..

Though they were probably just tears of anger....

vaginal tears™

Posted by: Friar at March 20, 2009 1:00 PM

Finally! thank you Pink Hulk, you are the first person in the history of pajiba to give a reason for not liking Perry’s movies. You said his movies were boring and didn't have enough sex and violence in them. You didn’t come with some vague bullshit about Perry stereotyping his characters. Every goddamn movie that was ever made had characters in it that were some type of a stereotype.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 1:01 PM

See Jay, that's all you have to do is listen. Listening doesn't cost a thing.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 1:06 PM

Not a problem, Pookie.

As soon as Perry puts out Madea Goes To A Bathhouse or The Family That Cannibalizes Together, I am totally in.

Posted by: The Pink Hulk at March 20, 2009 1:09 PM

His mind is going...He can feel it...He can feel it...His mind is going...

Posted by: Jay at March 20, 2009 1:10 PM

Jay you’re so funny. Jay, exactly how many Tyler Perry movies have you’ve seen? Because if you haven’t seen any of Perry’s movies, then that would make you a bandwagon jumper. So how many?

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 1:13 PM

Jay, I will give you enough time to google Tyler Perry for background.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 1:17 PM

tick tock tick tock

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 1:21 PM

I guess it's kinda like when SSN Dallas makes the emergency blow and the Kanavolov's torpedo gets all confused.

Posted by: Jay at March 20, 2009 1:23 PM

Well this is the thread of the day.

*Settles down with popcorn next to Genny*

Posted by: figgy at March 20, 2009 1:25 PM

Saying the man's characters are hollow stereotypes is a perfectly valid reason to dislike his movies. In any event, Pookie, you have, as usual, completely missed my point. I don't like Perry's movies but at least he gives black actors a chance to break out of the predetermined roles Hollywood has established for them. They're not good roles by any stretch of the imagination, but they are different.

Posted by: Tracer Bullet at March 20, 2009 1:27 PM

Oh, and I agree with Pink Hulk. I've seen a couple of his movies (Family Reunion and another one with the little girl? or is that the same one?) and they're pretty damn boring. And just not funny or interesting, with cliche situations (if not characters) and really sappy melodrama covering everything. Plus, the site of Perry in drag is just really fucking disturbing, because he looks like a guy in drag, and shouldn't everyone around him notice it? It makes me think every character in those movies is an idiot for not seeing past the giant boobs and bad wig. Maybe it would work if he just cast someone else as Madea. But why himself? Just doesn't work, and just coats the films in ridicule.

Posted by: figgy at March 20, 2009 1:31 PM

Dammit. "Sight", not "site". I hate making that mistake. I blame the internet.

Posted by: figgy at March 20, 2009 1:32 PM

You're right figgy. It's kinda of like watching The Nutty Professor with no humor, as if everyone is just supposed to accept that we're supposed to take Eddie Murphy seriously in the role of the grandmother...or the mother...or the aerobics instructor...or the fat guy. Well, you get the point. Playing straight while wearing drag is best left to the real professionals, like Nicolette Sheridan.

Posted by: The Pink Hulk at March 20, 2009 1:39 PM

Genny and/or figgs, can I have some of that popcorn? I usually don't buy my own because it gets all stuck in my teef, but I reeeeeeally want some not that it's all smelly in my face. Pleeease?

Posted by: jamiepants at March 20, 2009 1:46 PM

Figgy we all make mistakes, only an asshole (I Love beets) would harp on someone’s mistake.

Exactly Jay, not one goddamn movie could you name. I trust when Mr. Perry’s name comes up again you’ll refrain from making a comment.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 1:50 PM

Exactly. Wandering around looking for a target, however incongruous the preset phrases will sound when delivered. What can ya do, huh? Just let it run its course.

Posted by: Jay at March 20, 2009 1:55 PM

Of course, jamiepants. Bring your hotness over.

Posted by: figgy at March 20, 2009 2:07 PM

Pooklet, it hurts me that you talk about our love like it was a mistake. You seemed really into it... actually, I guess I was the one that was into it, if you get my meaning. But you seemed to enjoy it.

Posted by: I Love Beets at March 20, 2009 2:09 PM

My adoration for you, Jay, has increased tenfold.

Posted by: tamatha at March 20, 2009 2:09 PM

Just name one Tyler Perry movie Jay, and I'll let it go.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 2:11 PM

Pooklet is fine, but I would prefer Pookie. Pooklet seems so dismissive.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 2:18 PM

I'd almost feel persecuted but, you know, I can't be mad. I hadn't know it couldn't interpret italics though, or maybe that function's just been corrupted.

Posted by: Jay at March 20, 2009 2:20 PM

Room for one more on the couch? I have ... lessee ... I have Raisinettes, Lemonheads and Commas, and not in movie theater sizes, I'm talking the BIG boxes that I bought at the drug store at $1 each and stuffed down the front of my pants to sneak into the theater.

The same way I got this roasted turkey in. Pass the mustard, willya?

Oh boy, is this great ...

Posted by: bucdaddy at March 20, 2009 2:24 PM

As long as you insist on being the bottom, I'm gonna insist on calling you Pooklet.

Posted by: I Love Beets at March 20, 2009 2:28 PM

I've got some drinks for the couch crew. Ummmm...mini vodka, whisky, rye, rum, oh and...
*rummages around in pants* a box of wine! Who brought nachos?

Posted by: admin at March 20, 2009 2:36 PM

Jay, I think what you meant was " I hadn't (known) it couldn't interpret italics though"

You wrote " I hadn't (know) it couldn't interpret italics though," honest mistake Jay. Sometimes when people are in a haste to point out another person's lack of whatever they will sometimes overlook they own lack of whatever. But then again I’m not as sophisticated as you are Jay.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 2:37 PM

buc and admin, please join us! Just keep the raisinettes the hell away from me. Raisins are my mortal enemy.

Posted by: figgy at March 20, 2009 2:38 PM

Beets, as long as I’m the one in charge you can call me Pooklet, is the bottom usually in charge?

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 2:39 PM

Ok Jay, name me one Spike Lee Movie.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 2:40 PM

Does anyone have the score? Who’s winning this battle of wits?

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 2:43 PM

If I join the couch can I bring what's in my pants, too?

Wow, I'm juvenile....

Posted by: Friar at March 20, 2009 2:45 PM

I’m battling two people, so you guys must account for that and adjust your scorecards to reflect that.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 2:45 PM

It's like they are having a poo-flinging war, but in separate cages. Boys, at some point you have to realize you are just flinging poo against the wall.

Posted by: Tammy at March 20, 2009 2:45 PM

"is the bottom usually in charge?"

Honey, you were the one with the ball gag and tear-filled eyes. Did it feel like you were in charge? I'm not judging your fetish, I'm just saying...

Posted by: I Love Beets at March 20, 2009 2:50 PM

*walks in*

*reads topic and comments*

*almost walks out, but instead gets seat on couch.*

Posted by: Vermillion at March 20, 2009 2:51 PM

Me? I'm just observing. I can't fight what's not really there. There's other genuine things to feel affronted about, like slandering "Return of the Jedi".

Posted by: Jay at March 20, 2009 2:51 PM

is the bottom usually in charge?

It is when I'm bottom.

BOO-YAH.

Posted by: figgy at March 20, 2009 2:53 PM

Wait ... *looks in pants* not Raisinettes, they're JuJubes. I only thought it was Raisinettes I grabbed and shoved down my pants when the store owner wasn't watching, but then, I was looking over my shoulder. They have a similar rattle when you shake the box, the Raisinettes sound just slightly smaller, it's easy to get them confused ...

Unfortunately, I hate JuJubes. Who wants them?

And, I stole the Commas for you, my luscious fig.

*checks scorecard*

I gave Pookie nine of the first 10 rounds, and scored the 10th one even.

Posted by: bucdaddy at March 20, 2009 2:57 PM

Well Beets I’m not familiar with that world as you are so that’s why I asked about the bottom gig. How do you play and do you have a safe word? My safe word is “Biscuits,” don’t ask.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 2:59 PM

We're gonna need a bigger couch.

I honestly have not seen any Tyler Perry movies and my only exposure to him is commercials for "House of Payne" on TBS so all I have to do here is observe. I'm so glad to have company.

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at March 20, 2009 3:07 PM

I am neither a defender or supporter of TP or his movies. I can honestly say that the only time I've seen his movies is during my last two runs from nature down here in New Orleans, I was forced to live with people who regard him as the current "Spike Lee"
His plays pander to the misunderstood humor of some of the most unpolished of any race and he always wraps it up with a ethnically cliche'd happy ending (& of course the message that being black & poor is fantastic as long as you retain a sense of pride and continue to attend church and worship as if you are as strong as poor JOB from the bible)
He finally got to put this tripe on Celluloid so now everyone gets to see the one thing we always wanted to see--A Big Black Drag queen uniting her dysfunctional family and saving the world-one Sunday Sermon at a time.

Posted by: PAUL MARKS at March 20, 2009 3:13 PM

*Shouts from couch*

Pookie you want those biscuits grayved?

I've seen two of Perry's movies and made my opinion known before. Today I'm here to observe and maybe get the odd unintentional boob graze.

Bucdaddy you're my homeboy and all but, get your hand off of my knee.

Posted by: admin at March 20, 2009 3:16 PM

Come on in Genny, you can observe. Hey, aren't you the one with the ample talents?

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 3:16 PM

Ow! Vermillion, that's my lap (and several boxes of candy) you're sitting on. Look, you go sit in figgy's spot and *removes candy from pants* fig, you sit here.

Posted by: bucdaddy at March 20, 2009 3:31 PM

Safe word? Don't be such a pussy.

Posted by: I Love Beets at March 20, 2009 3:34 PM

But I bet the majority of you all loved “Good Times,” and of course that show didn’t stereotype black people.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 3:34 PM

Pookie IS Perry.
Perry IS Pookie.
They are ONE.

Posted by: A.S. at March 20, 2009 3:36 PM

*Removes candy from pants*

Now that's how to lead by example!

Yes, im older than 12....
physically, at least

Posted by: Friar at March 20, 2009 3:36 PM

Raise your hand if you enjoyed watching "Good Times."

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 3:39 PM

Is this a trap?

Posted by: Friar at March 20, 2009 3:41 PM

I'm a lady, I don't sit on laps. I will steal the Jujubes. Mmm.

What's "Good Times"?

Posted by: figgy at March 20, 2009 3:44 PM

I suspect none of you will actually say that they enjoyed watching “Good Times.” Because that would mean that your hatred of Perry because of his so called stereotyping of black people in his movies is pure bullshit. You can’t love “Good Times” and hate Tyler Perry movies, because they are basically the same thing.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 3:44 PM

So, lets go down the list. Vermillion, what say you? Yeah right figgy.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 3:46 PM

I kid, I know of it, but I never watched it. I'm not American, remember, so I grew up with some very different tv. Like "Small Wonder", dubbed in Spanish. We only got the very best.

Posted by: figgy at March 20, 2009 3:46 PM

You’re next Paul Marks, then bucdaddy, followed by admin.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 3:47 PM

Suddenly the couch is empty.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 3:56 PM

I've never seen it Pookie, I was two when it went off the air.

Now who the hell took my drank?

Posted by: admin at March 20, 2009 3:57 PM

Ok admin, but I want V to answer my question. He can run but he can't hide. You too Mr. Marks, you and your Nawlings bullshit.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 4:03 PM

Ok admin, but I want V to answer my question.

Oooh, audience participation!

You can’t love “Good Times” and hate Tyler Perry movies, because they are basically the same thing.

So not only does he makes sucky films, he can't even be original in his sucktastacy.

I am just saying: you admit he makes bad films, he really doesn't do much for black actors, and anything he has made that was in any way entertaining has been done already.

So what exactly are you defending here?

And let's not try that "oh you guys don't pick on white directors the same way" stuff again, because we all know it is bullshit. I mean, who do you think makes up the rest of the ranting and raving here when Perry isn't in our lives?

And did anyone bring some caramel corn to this shindig?

Posted by: Vermillion at March 20, 2009 4:25 PM

My contribution to the snack couch:

These little marshmallow candies they sell here, they're called "Baby". Because they're in the shape of tiny babies in cribs. That you eat.

Proof:

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v165/119/46/55600345/n55600345_30483113_3192.jpg

They're delicious.

Posted by: figgy at March 20, 2009 4:33 PM

FIGGY'S EATING BABY JESUS!

Posted by: admin at March 20, 2009 4:44 PM

He tastes like salvation!

Posted by: figgy at March 20, 2009 4:58 PM

V, my question is did you enjoy watching "Good Times" growing up?

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 5:02 PM

Yes

Posted by: V for vendetta at March 20, 2009 5:05 PM

Better yet V, did you enjoy the movie "Miri and that fat white guy make a porno?"

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 5:05 PM

LOL!!

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 5:06 PM

All I've ever seen of a Tyler Perry movie is a trailer for "Madea Goes to Jail." I snickered at one gag. So I can't exactly judge.

I probably watched "Good Times" a few times but was far more likely to get my stereotypes played for irony by Norman Lear ("All in the Family," "The Jeffersons").

Yes, I am ... mature. Age-wise.

fig,

Think I have some of those "Baby" things in my pants too ... oh, looks like it melted. Either that, or I REALLY liked Vermillion on my lap.

Posted by: bucdaddy at March 20, 2009 5:17 PM

FIGGY IS EATING A LYING BABY JESUS!

Posted by: admin at March 20, 2009 5:26 PM

If I can be honest with you people, I do get tired of carrying around all of this baggage. I’m not as mentally healthy as I should be, but I want you all to know that deep down inside I’m really trying to deal with my issues. Sometimes when I come to pajiba I have an opportunity to just vent, which at times is very cathartic. I do not wish to offend anyone with my antics, and if I’ve offended anyone I apologize.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 5:27 PM

......

Posted by: Friar at March 20, 2009 5:31 PM

It's just the end of the cycle, Friar.

Posted by: Jay at March 20, 2009 5:49 PM

Jay, I have never in my days here at Pajiba laid a foul tongue on you until today. I consider you a friend, an elder if you will, here at pajiba. I felt attacked by you, and it stung me because I would have never imagined you doing that to me. Yes, I overreacted in my response to you, and for that I humbly apologize. I would hope that we can move forward and not let this bit of unpleasantness be a thorn in your side as we map out a course that leads to friendship.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 6:02 PM

He's not lying! He says if I eat lots of babies I will be saved!

Posted by: figgy at March 20, 2009 6:46 PM

This is about the time of year when the chocolate crosses start showing up too, because nothing says respect and reverance for the suffering and agony and death of the Savior quite like biting the head off a chocolate cross. I only wish they made them with chocolate Jesus on them, stripped naked but for a crown of thorns, now with Real Thorns (R). Also available in white chocolate, for good Christian bigots.

Posted by: bucdaddy at March 20, 2009 6:53 PM

Bitch, please. Don't fall for it, Jay. Motherfucker will turn on you in a heartbeat. It's just his way. Whether you give him a reacharound or not - he just can't be trusted.

Posted by: I Love Beets at March 20, 2009 7:15 PM

Hey, I saw "Electric Dreams", Beets. I know the score.

Posted by: Jay at March 20, 2009 7:28 PM

Jay if we can't be friends, let us be civil towards each other.

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 8:02 PM

Jay, I’m willing to extend a hand of friendship, will you accept?

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 8:05 PM

Pathetic.

Posted by: I Love Beets at March 20, 2009 8:09 PM

You are right Beets, I need to earn a person’s friendship. I’m trying to change my ways, I know I’ve acted inappropriately and I need to prove myself. But please don’t discard me, I can change. Will you give an opportunity to prove myself to you Beets?

Posted by: Pookie at March 20, 2009 8:14 PM

Whoops, sorry folks. Had to go run out and have a life.

What I'd miss?

Posted by: Vermillion at March 21, 2009 12:28 AM

The battle! Now we're at the capitulation.

Posted by: figgy at March 21, 2009 2:10 AM

Dammit, you go away to sleep for eight hours and dream of carnage in the morning ("I love the smell of carnage in the morning") and come back to find it looks like Jimma Carter's been here, brokering peace accords and shit instead of nailing houses together, which is the only thing he's ever been good at.

Hmph, we know how Jimma's peace plan worked out, so the fisticuffs should resume in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

BTW, my fellow couch-sitters, care to make this interesting? I have $10 on Pookie, knockout in the 13th. Come on, Pook, don't let me down ...

Posted by: bucdaddy at March 21, 2009 11:50 AM

This whole thing just got BORing. Frickin Pookie's trying to make friends now, Vermillion's actually considering bringing motherfucking CANDY corn onto our couch. admin won't FOR THE LAST TIME, GET OFF MY DAMN HAND!
Ugh, I'm going to sit on the floor.
jamiepants out.

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Posted by: lola at March 21, 2009 12:13 PM

I wouldn't sit there, that's where the spambots hang out.

And yeah this got boring. I hate when warring parties decide to make nice. I wanted BLOOD.

Posted by: figgy at March 21, 2009 3:40 PM

Tyler Perry is about as funny as Dane Cook.

Posted by: Sammy Miami at March 22, 2009 11:39 AM

Stop haten on Perry, Blige, and Henson cause they are doin there thing.

Posted by: Shuwanna at April 24, 2009 9:18 AM