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Maisie Williams Would Like Snobby, Mean Book Readers to Stop Spoiling 'Game of Thrones'

By Cindy Davis | Trade News | July 30, 2014 | Comments ()


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In an interview with TVLine, Game of Thrones Maisie Williams discussed what’s coming up for Arya (she doesn’t exactly know), and how certain book readers behave. While I have indulged in A Song of Ice and Fire I hope I’m not snobby or mean (truth be told, I’m mean in general —just not about GoT). It’s been quite a while since finishing and half the time I’m lucky if I remember what’s coming, outside of major events. I don’t disagree with Williams, there are *some* book readers who can be a little over the top with feelings of ownership, and screams of disappointment over events we think should or must be included in the series. I’m positively dying to see [redacted] in Season 5, and I’ll probably cry if they are skipped over. Williams also makes a good point about readers being surprised — the joy of not knowing can be just as thrilling as seeing the written word play out. Here are the highlights (Note: Spoiler Warning! References to an omitted Season 5 character, and Book Readers, please no spoilers in the comments) :


On What’s Coming up for Arya in Season 5:

“I don’t know, honestly. We’re starting to catch up with what’s been written, so I’d love to do something completely new. Again, I’d love to keep making the book readers go, “Wait, is that what’s going to come in the next book? Did they make that up completely?” I love it when we do something really dramatic and shock everyone. They should throw in more stuff that no one knows about.”
I know a couple of really cool things happen in the books with Arya, and I just had a meeting about about a certain thing that happens to Arya, but I still don’t know how it happens.


On That Omitted Character, and Certain Book Readers:

“That was a massive deal, but honestly, I really like it. I’m so sick of going on the internet and seeing all the book readers being snobby, spoiling it for other people, then saying, ‘Well, it’s not a spoiler. The books have been out for years.’ Like, couldn’t you just stop being mad for a second and let other people enjoy the show? They feel they have a claim on the series because they read the books first, and I understand that, but they don’t need to be mean about it. That’s why I liked moments like this, because book readers think they know what’s coming, then we change it and it’s really funny to watch their reactions. They’re always like, ‘That’s not what happened in the books, so the show’s really bad now.’ But really, they just feel insecure because they’re used to knowing what’s coming next.”


On…Not Ser Pounce, I Hope?:

“Oh, the cat I worked with on Game of Thrones was so badly behaved! It would never do anything it was supposed to do. I was like, “Get your game together, cat. You’re so bad.”


You can read the full interview, which also covers Williams’ film Heatstroke, here.


Cindy Davis, (Twitter) is mean but not snobby.




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  • Maddy

    Seriously both Maisie and Sophie are so smart about their characters. I love them and I'm pretty sure looking at all their pictures on Instagram doesn't make me a weirdo 😒

  • Maddy

    I try really hard not to be a snobby book reader I really do. I love Natalie Dormer as Margaery, who we don't get to see much of in the books (although I am excited for her scenes with Lena next year), I think they stuffed up the ending a bit but Sibel Kikelli's Shae is an improvement on the books and I lover her relationship with Sansa (even though they threw that away with the dumb jealousy stuff but whatever). I've decided to just be pleasantly surprised if that character shows up next season.

    And honestly there are show watchers who are much more intelligent and thoughtful in their approach to this material than book readers.

    My initial rage reactions usually calm down after a while.

    Anyway, if Maisie tells me to so something I will do it. Maisie for show runner please!

    So let's just all look at this picture and have your hearts melt to a puddle

  • _Alexander_

    I will probably get bashed for this but I find the show far far superior then the books and completely agree with all changes. In fact I don't care at all if Martin finished the books since I have more faith in the show then in him

  • Maddy

    I disagree but I know there are plenty of people out there who agree with you!

  • manting

    Have you read the books? All of them?

  • _Alexander_

    Yes. And I reread the the first ones when I started watching the show for a refresher.

  • alwaysanswerb

    LS isn't the (potential) omission I am most upset about. I just hope that not all of the S5 cast has been announced yet because if what I've seen is final then I have RAGE.

  • manting

    you mean how they have Trystane as the heir to Doran? That clearly means Arianne will not be appearing.

  • alwaysanswerb

    [sigh] Yes. Wasn't sure if that counted as a spoiler so I was being vague? But yes.

  • manting

    not a spoiler - casting is not spoilers.

  • manting

    Ive never met the book reader who thought the show could or should include every little bit from the books. Most book readers view the show as similar to PJ's adaptation of LotR, in that he cut out a fair amount but kept all the key scenes and characters and was true to the spirit of the books. The first 3 seasons of GoT pretty much did this. Season 4 was much more like PJ adaptation of The Hobbit, in that he changed it a fair amount, added a bunch of shit that added nothing to the story and in general put out an inferior dumbed-down product compared to his previous track record.

  • John G.

    I agree with this completely. I don't spoil anything for people, because I'm not a jerk, but to think that book readers are morons that want every word of every page filmed is also a ridiculous characterization. Most, me included, just don't want things changed that absolutely ruin key characters or essential plot points. I love the books, and I really appreciated all the added scenes between Arya and Tywin. There have been many nice touches added to the show that don't corrupt the underlying text. There have also been severe blasphemies that drive one to murder.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    #neverforgetBombadil

  • manting

    only if their is a Ho! at the end of that.

  • lowercase_ryan

    #notallbookreaders

  • whitebay

    I think the show sucks, I think the show is a gratuitously oversexualized dumbed down piece of dry dogshit stuck on the book's shoes.
    So, I don't watch it.
    But I've started seeing a trend in this site, a trend of book readers bashing, and even worse, book bashing. Yesterday a post about GGRM had a tagline

    that said something about "25 pages of breast descriptions", today this big headed girl call book readers snobs.

    A dick will be a dick having read the books or not. If a dick can't spoil game of thrones he will find something else to fuck people with, so it's not book readers you should be badmouthing, but dicks who happen to have read the books. Not the same.
    Also, don't disrespect the books, there are not "25 pages of breast descriptions" in them, that's not true or fair. anyone who has read them knows that.

  • Debra Kessing

    but so many who have read them, forget them (it HAS been 16 years since he started the series) and then there are the readers that started reading his books in their 60s perhaps - foolishly thinking that ANY moron could manage 7 books in less than 20 something years.

  • whitebay

    what?

  • lowercase_ryan

    A dick will also refer to someone as a "big headed girl".

  • whitebay

    Oh come on.They could screen the entire show on that forehead.

  • Maddy

    Make fun of a teenage girls appearance and I'm pretty sure you're a dick.

  • whitebay

    Did I upset you? If only I had known how you feel about Bighead and the Other One...
    Oh well, It's too late for apologies now.

  • Debra Kessing

    you didn't upset me, you simply hung out your huge neon sign saying "I am a fucking douche" -- I appreciate the warning.
    PS - anyone who makes fun of a teenage girl's appearance - said girl being one of the most naturally gifted actors I have ever had the pleasure of watching - is as stupid as he is a low life and he should crawl back under his rock now.

  • whitebay

    I was asking Maddy but anyway.
    If you're not upset, what's with the name calling then? It's that how you normally communicate?
    Never mind. Don't answer that.

    PS: Sooner or later you'll have to acknowledge that the head is big. She has a big head .Which in itself it's not incompatible with being a fine actress I guess. I wouldn't know, as I said before, I don't watch the show.

  • lowercase_ryan

    Listen, I'm sure you're not a bad person. Hell, you jumped all over Jezzer's shit, which gets you a point in my book. But making fun of someone's appearance around here isn't going to win over hearts and minds. I would have thought you knew that already.

  • whitebay

    I can't tell if you are being kind or condescending.
    Listen, Im not into the hearts and minds game. I couldn't care less. I do make sure to keep it civil at all times, though. There will be no name calling from me to the people in this forum.
    Now, Bighead Stark here, and other actors like her, and also movies, shows or whatever piece of pop culture we'll be discussing at the time, that's fair game.

    I say this without any acridity, having decided that you were being kind.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    I think there's a place in entertainment writing for hyperbole.

  • JJ

    In fact, it's the best, most appropriate place. Ever.

  • Jezzer

    No, there are 25 pages of food descriptions instead, and one look at GRRM will tell you why.

    No one's bashing book readers. They're bashing book readers who act like douchebags. Maisie didn't say book readers were snobs, she said people who acted a certain way were being snobby, and she's not wrong.

  • whitebay

    No, there aren't 25 pages of food either. Do you have read them? And I'd be cautious with the fat shaming here in Pajiba. Its a delicate subject.

  • Jezzer

    I've been coming to Pajiba since well before you learned how to whinge about your offended butthurt on the internet, and when GRRM sits around the house, he really sits around the house.

  • whitebay

    Congratulations on that.
    Do you read the books or not?

  • Jezzer

    I've read the whole series thus far. And a lot of the book readers have been acting like assholes. And GRRM is fat.

  • whitebay

    You're right, he is fat. He even writes like a fat ass. Like you said after reading the whole series, "there are 25 pages of food descriptions" that's totally acurate, the fat fuck can't think of anything else.
    haha
    Its funny because he is fat.

  • Jezzer

    Dude, you should stop with the fat-shaming. It isn't cool. I understand it's a delicate subject.

  • whitebay

    Im just following your lead

  • Jezzer

    He is pretty fat, though.

  • John G.

    this series has sold 22 million copies. There are a lot of book readers out there.

  • John W

    Sorry Maisie. I'll stop now. (Please don't kill me.)

  • Ben

    As a snobby book reader I wish the illiterate buffon's would quit being so sensitive.

  • ladyhazard

    "buffon's"

    Well done, snobby book reader. Well done.

  • Ben

    It was early....and just because I can read it doesn't mean I can type. Yep. That is my defense. Good point though.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    I think the show might have lost me with LS, as it sounds just a little too ridiculous, a little too "I'm not dead yet", and a little too willing to backtrack on something that was so powerful because it was so irrevocable.

  • Dove of Doom

    So much went into laying the groundwork for LS in the books that remains in the show that the idea of omitting LS is seriously odd. Like so much in fantasy, simply saying what LS is sans context makes it sound absurd, but experienced within the flow of the story, the introduction of LS was stunningly effective.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    I did think, OH, so that was the point of all that healing going on, but I don't feel it as an absence. I don't miss it. Let the dead be dead.

  • Dove of Doom

    In the case of LS, arguably the dead has remained dead and something else has returned. Like Gage Creed in Pet Sematary, sometimes dead is better, but when someone comes back anyway it makes for some harrowing drama.

  • JJ

    Cue book readers: "We are not ALL like that!"

    So before that, consider: "We know. It is not, in fact, all book readers. Therefore her comments, which exactly mirror my own opinion, likely aren't about you specifically."

  • Maddy

    To be honest the show is going to overtake the books probably next season. So they get to be snobby and pretentious to book readers trying to avoid it.

  • Sam Underwood

    Should start the hashtag #notallbookreaders

  • Maddy

    Yep. I'm only snobby and pretentious about certain plots and characters I swear!

  • lowercase_ryan

    I commented before I saw this.

  • Loser Prentice

    Thank God for snobby book readers; this moot point is like half of Pajiba's news cycle, apparently.

  • Sam Underwood

    Ok. I am a book reader and I try not to be a dick. Part of my enjoyment of this show is seeing the reactions to things that happen in the books play out in the show. For example the Red Wedding. Its not a superiority thing, its not an ownership thing. The series got me to read the books in the first place. Yes there are some bad book readers but there are also some bad show watchers. If you don't want to be spoiled to what just aired, avoid social media. Seriously. I watch the shows monday evenings after work. All day monday I avoid facebook, twitter, pajiba, everything.

    The only reason I'm upset about the lack of LS at the end of S4 is because of the missed hype that could have been created for show watchers. I remember reading that scene and FREAKING OUT. I instantly got on amazon and bought book 4 because I HAD to read what happened next. Imagine people who had no idea that was coming and imagine the next 9 months as they wait in anticipation. Yes the show is already huge but this was a giant missed opportunity which has now been spoiled because of EW, pajiba, AND book readers who bitched and complained. We are all at fault honestly, including on policing ourselves from spoilers.

  • Maddy

    I didn't like how the show did the Red Wedding but it's not something people would have noticed or cared about if they hadn't read the books.

  • Sam Underwood

    For show watchers I'm sure it was fine. For myself because I knew what was coming and happening I just was cold and shutdown of emotions, not like when I cried like a 5 year old child when I read it in the books.

  • Ryan Ambrose

    May Arya's steely resolve serve as a warning to those who intend to maliciously ruin someone else's fun. I'd not want to piss off that girl as well.

    And now I'm going to give vent to a couple of things that have been bothering me, First World Problems-style. If there's one thing I dislike more than having a major plot point spoiled by some inconsiderate poster, who then just proceeds to shrug it off with a "well, the books have been out for a long time, it's your own damn fault for not catching up to them", it's having the book-reading brigade dismissing the show's own spin on an existing material because a scene or character arc differed from the source material, therefore it is ruined.

  • Dove of Doom

    I think some of the show's deviations from the source material have been brilliant, others less so. To me it's not about faithfulness to the books, it's about the effectiveness of the adaptation.

  • Exactly.

    Look, there's no way you're going to make the books as they're written. Each season would be 40 episodes and the kids would have to spend their non-filming time in suspended animation to keep them from aging even faster.

    So far, I'm appreciative of the changes made and how they're done for streamlining the story. If I'm critical of something, it's because I think they could have done it better (say the story at The Wall last season, which dragged as a result of putting the entire battle in episode 9).

  • Dove of Doom

    The show has definitely not done well by Jon Snow, and I don't think Kit Harrington is to blame as much as some inexplicable choices by the writers. In the books, Jon is smart and competent, but the series made him such a screwup that they're still struggling to make him credible as a potential leader for the Night's Watch. In the books, Jon decided to spare Ygritte, but on the show she played him for a fool, taking a moral choice and turning it into a failure. I can't imagine what they were thinking in undercutting his character so badly. And stretching out the goings on at the wall made Jon's scenes so repetitive that it was sometimes a chore to watch them.

  • Maddy

    I've never been a huge Jon Snow person but I agree. I like Kit in the role so I don't think it's his fault it really started in season 2. But I'm looking forward to his scenes with Stannis and Mel next season. His plot in the last 2 books was when he was the most interesting to me. Not sure how they're going to fit it all in since they haven't even reached his end point in ASOS yet. The timelines in the show are so weird.

  • Ryan Ambrose

    I entirely agree and, as a fan of Bryan Fuller's school of literary adaptations that deviate from the source material without compromising the essence of the work, I wish more fans would be this open to having their expectations subverted, as long as it's well-executed and improves on the original text without many crass mischaracterizations.

  • Maddy

    There's actually quite a few 'problematic' (sorry I know people hate that word) things in the books that I wish they had changed more. So I guess they can't win.

  • Guest

    I think some of the show's deviations from the source material have been brilliant, other less so. To me it's not about the faithfulness to the books, it's about

  • If there's one person you do not want to piss off, for fear of a stealthy, vaguely indifferent blade sliding its way into your stomach in the middle of the night, it's Maisie 'I'm Arya Stark, bitch!' Williams.

    And I like the fact that she doesn't really know what's coming up for Arya.

  • TK

    I'm telling you, this girl is my spirit creature.

  • Even Stevens

    She is just so freakin delightful... and absurdly wise for someone her age

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