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Apple...the scientology of personal computers

Mac. All the way. For my profession, it's a Mac. You can argue all you want for a PC, but Mac. Period. I hate the commercials (minus 1984). I hate how every other day, Jobs comes out with a new iPod. I hate the "hipness" of Macs. But I've worked on them for goddamed ever and there's absolutely no reason for me to switch now. It's not a novelty computer. It's not a funky way to express myself. It's a goddamed powerful machine that does exactly what I need. If they could attach a buhgooter to it, I'd friggin' marry one...

Although along that line of logic, if they attached a vagimana to a toaster, I'd marry it. Same goes for a can of Guinness, a pack of smokes, and a bag of charcoal...

PC, for the same reasons as Admin11.

I'm no geek, but my husband is - and we both use Macs. The no-virus thing is grand. It took me a while to get used to some of the oddities (taps, scrolling, two-finger right-click equivalent), but now I've seen the light. The keyboard is lovely. Having used many PCs over the years, I'd definitely say it's like going from a Ford to a Beamer. You know that's all we drive in Connecticut, don't you?

s. pisaster Bi-sexual?

Mac. For screenwriting and filmmaking, accept no substitutes.

Macs. I used PCs only until a few years ago, and then switched over. Love Macs now and wouldn't consider going back.

I also agree that there is a huge degree of douchetasticness among many Mac users, though, and it generally does make me want to reach for the Tire Iron of Correction.

PC for work. PC for home, because hubby needs it to connect to work. The one time I used a Mac, it made fake PC sounds, so what was the point?

PC, switching over to Mac because the OS is more friendly for me, the non-techy geek.

My desktop PC can't find a damn thing on its own, always full of crappy programs that load themselves with the Windows OS that I don't need, takes way too long out of the box to get it set up initially, etc.

I bought a Mac laptop. Opened it up. It practically shook my hand and asked me if I wanted to get on the internet. No annoying programs I didn't want to install. No huge hassle trying to figure out IP addresses.

Mac just makes interacting with the computer easy, and as soon as I have the $ it's a Mac desktop all the way.

Skitz: I'm a pink glasses wearing, hiking boots and heels sporting, truck driving, gun shooting Mac user.

Now where's my cookie???

PCs, at work and at home, but I bought my daughter a Mac.

I really don't like it much. While it's great as long as you're willing to always work with what you have and NEVER upgrade...I *like* doing upgrade stuff myself. You can't do that with a Mac. Not unless you spend a metric fuckton of cash.

But I'm a computer user since the days of punch cards...and still think all you need to give me is any half-way decent flavor of UNIX and a command line. So what do I know.

"I understand that Macs have better graphics cards..."

*stares in disbelief*

Dude, seriously.

I've been an Apple user ever since my very young days with an Apple IIe back in the mid-80s. I've also used plenty of PCs for school and work. As far as user-friendliness and lack of technical problems go, the Mac wins by a landslide.

PC. I don't design or produce shit, I don't download or install porn or games, and I don't give a shit about Firefox or Mozilla. All I do with my PC is check email, Mypace, and Facebook; read my favorite blogs and sites; and watch YouTube. I admit to hating my Dell, and I'll probably replace it with an HP, but give me IE and I'm set.

I'll tell you what a Mac is:

Is Steve Jobs spooging on your face and laughing all the way to the bank as you slather his man-milk all over your face.

You are not a "mac," you are a chump.

In my science world, the 'puters are half Mac, half PC, half Linux, half whatever they make up as they go along. True story.

PCs are unfriendly. Programmers for some science applications write with a SHITTY user interface (whatever the acronym I'm supposed to have used, please insert there).

My first computer at my high school was a Mac, and I've owned only Macs. Through and through. Currently typing on a Mac.

But I do have an ugly PC on my work desk too. Which crashes all the time, has annoying anti-virus alert shit that I don't know how to deactivate completely, is ugly, has too many cords for no reason whatsoever, takes up too much room, has annoying interface, icons, did I mention crashes all the time? And is ugly?

And I'm not a hipster, nor do I think it's "cool" to own a Mac. Macs are just pretty and work really well for the non-geeky me.

I'll tell you what a PC is:

It's Bill Gates spooging on your face and laughing all the way to the bank as you slather his man-milk all over your face.

You are not a "PC," you are a chump.

Thanks, BSlim - that one works both ways!

The Smart Car is the new VW bug. Be the envy of all of your mac-toting friends.

As for what a real geek prefers - the real question is what kind of geek?

PC.

I like to play computer games. There are more games for PCs. Sure, all the real good ones are made for Macs, but I like some more obscure and not so good games.

It's pretty much that simple. I don't do graphics or any of that stuff. I also work from home sometimes doing lawerly things and pretty much every firm uses PCs, so it's easier for that stuff too.

A one button mouse also confuses and terrifies me.

I'm currently waiting out the short lifespan of my shitty Dell so I can use my friend's Apple Store discount and get myself a computer that will actually last a couple years. After the fifth guy I had come and replace my motherboard explained that the reason it kept breaking was because Dell was too cheap to add a couple screws, I decided it was time for a change.

PC all the way, for the reasons already presented pertaining to hackability. When my computer crashes (which is extremely rare, by the way. I don't know what's up with everyone else's pcs) I get a kick out of digging through the various software and hardware levels available to the user on a PC. My friends Mac wouldn't connect to the internet one time and a 2 minute fix on a pc was impossible because I couldn't access the gateway and DNS settings.

Nothing really wrong with Macs for the average user though. And they're great for sound and video editing (or so I hear).

Mac totally. Here is the thing, before I got my current gig doing web design, I did tech support. I did mac tech support and pc (mostly Dell) support.

Troubleshooting swapping out hardware, upgrading hardware so super easy and downright fun to do on a Mac. Not quite as much fun on a PC - just because some things were so freakin inaccessible in those Dell desktops. I am a person who can't not dig inside her computer. I have to be able to make my own hardware upgrades -which is why I love working with macs. I hear they have new rules regarding what voids the warranty, but it will be a while before I need to worry about that.

And I am not a certified technician. I have had macs last at least 7 years and some times up to 10 and only had to make the smallest upgrades in software and hardware.

And when they introduced OSX which is probably what convinced many a PC user to finally switch, the gave us Mac geeks what we were totally missing a COMMAND LINE! It was orgasmic to be able to enter in linux commands at the prompt and bypass a GUI all together.

Now I am in web design, but at work I have to use a PC. It sucks, but since IE6 is still the most popular (and least standards compliant) web browser out there, web development on a PC helps you find issues that you wouldn't know were there other wise.

But, at home, Mac all the way. I have three of varying ages all of which are up to date on their security and hardware for their respective versions of OS X.

Now, if I could just afford some of their kick ass monitors.

Oh, and I totally feel you guys on the hipster bullshit that comes with some mac owners. Its why I refuse to set foot in an Apple store.

uh... pc for the win here. the only times i've had to use apple computers were in school and times i had graphic design jobs and that's what they had for me to use because it was the 'industry standard' which i think might be a scam. the damn thing crashed every hour or so, spinny rainbow ball of doom. mac killed my inner child.
my pc however, i love it. i like playing games and it works just fine. graphics programs work just fine and don't effing crash so much i have to hit ctrl+s every time i change something. if it breaks i can order a new part and replace the broken one myself.
i have a theory that people who get off on macs just believe they have the best because someone at the shiny mac store told them it's the best. and they paid twice as much for it so it must be good right?
maybe i'd think differently if i actually owned my own and didn't have to use the office one, but if i had enough money to buy one i think i'd spend it on something else. i'm 100% broke over here steve jobs, you can't have my money if i don't have any to spend ::shakes fist::

I was a PC girl until about 2 years ago. My fiance got me into Macs, and now I have a MacBook of my own. My PC in college was a total piece of crap - it was overflowing with viruses and god knows what else, and eventually it crashed beyond repair. I love my Mac, but I'm not a big computer geek, so it's purely based on being easy to use and pretty. So pretty.

I went Mac in law school, 2nd year, after my 2nd PC laptop in so many years drove me crazy. Despite alleged virus protection, one can only reformat a hard drive so many times (plus reinstalling software and transferring files) before saying, "Fuck this."

Mac users are stigmatized for being smug and whatnot, but, to me, it's just much easier to cope with spending extra money upfront instead of replacing the damn thing every year or two. Ya dig?

Mac / PC
Playstation 3 / Xbox 360
Guitar Hero / Rock Band
Vaginal / Anal

I suppose its really is just about preference. Both sides will always have their fanatics but maybe it would be fun to try the other kind once in a while.

Mac. PC gives me a headache.

I've never known a Mac afficianado who wasn't positively intolerable. There's this one co-worker of mine who got a Mac logo tattooed on her head. Her goddamned head. My joy is that the artist did a shit job, so it's all warped and blotchy. Heh heh, dummy.

Amanda H., I'm pretty tolerable. I'd even go as far to say that once you get past the initial cold shoulder, one word answers, the dislike of actual human contact, round-the-clock grumpiness that oftentimes morphs into full-blown rage, whiskey breath, five-month stubble, inability to speak without dropping the f, c, or b-bombs, petty theft of valuables, turkey clawed halfling, snoring, rudeness, flatulence, complete and utter contempt at the notion of "love" and glass eye, well I'm extremely tolerable. DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME GODDAMIT?!

See?

At the risk of this quote winding up in the next ever-increasingly douchey Mac ads:

Macs: Swear by them, never at them...

PCs win for all things gaming. Macs are popular with college kids and media production folks. I side with Windows because I can alter it more and for the gaming reasons.

Skitz, it's the Mac users who aren't like you who get my goat. Disregarding the gasiness, you sound pretty damn tolerable.

Uh, Macs are not better for graphics. PCs have them beat in every regard.

Posted by: Glyn at October 17, 2008 5:37 PM
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Exactly, I don't know where people got that into their heads!

Agreed!

PC = Gibson Les Paul

Mac = ....Deliverance

I haven't used a Mac in years. I don't dislike them or anything, I just haven't used one since I went to private school. The public school I switched to used PCs, and I didn't find them scary or difficult or problematic, so I changed over and have used them ever since. I also haven't owned a desktop in at least five years. For ages I used Toshibas, which are virtually indestructible. I currently have a Vaio, which I also like a lot.

I do really like Apple's gadgets. I don't think I could function without my iPod, because it has made me allergic to silence, I think. I also like the iPhone, but now I have an Android phone. I think I like it so far. It's a bit different, definitely. I just got it this week, so I haven't used it much yet.

I have a pink Vaio, too. All the artsy-types at work are muy jealous.

I didn't buy it because it was pink, though. I bought it because it was a demo machine on clearance and I got a totally killer deal on it, and it is loaded with goodies. I think it didn't sell because the pink scared off all the geeks at the hardcore computer store.

I bought an Imac G5 and 6 months later it fucked up. I've since taken it in 4 time to get the same thing repaired.

I bought a Macbook and 6 months later the HD crashed completely and everything was lost. Did it again 2 months later.

All that aside, they are worth it simply for the lack of viruses and popups that within 6 months force you to reformat your PC HD.

In a word. Yes. More than anything.
Also, You're trying to seduce me! And I love the reference!

I've been a PC girl most of my life, but I went mac in 2005 and never looked back. I'm an illustrator and it's definitely amazing for what I need it for, listening to some weirdass music and offering me amazing color calibrations and smooth functionality.

That's all I want. I'm not super hard over all mac products, but it definitely appeals to artists and musicians and such. ;)

PCs are cool too man. Can't we get along?

It has to be a PC. All those extras and all that possibility. The sheer volume of third party accessories that allow you to truly make that computer exactly what you want it to be.

Also, seriously, screw that bland mac look and single mouse button from the dark ages.

Macs rule!

FYI...

A BMW automobile is referred to as a "bimmer".

A BMW motorcycle is referred to as a "beemer".

Linux. On my laptop. For everything, including porn videos and DVD playback. And no, I don't rip off DVDs. Simply want to watch what I've already paid for.

I prefer macs. I had a windows machine for the games until it ate itself one time too many, meanwhile insisting on both phoning home and installing hack-enabling malware (bundled into mandatory security patches to the OS) that trojaned in an EULA granting essentially unlimited control of my computer & its content to the borg.

Read that again. To repair well known, easily exploitable holes in the OS required patches (called "service packs") that bundled additional features. The additional features required and EULA granting the right to remotely collect data on my machine's content and activities, and to remotely remove or disable both applications and media. Without telling me.

If I hadn't had the machine locked down pretty tight, I wouldn't have know it was installing that crap.

Windows isn't intrinsically half as bad as it ends up being in practice, due to its use as a Borg infection vector. Of course the open-source-y Google phone includes an application "kill switch" unilaterally available to Google. Not you.

Borg Queen / Sergey & Larry '08

I know nothing about computers. I've always had a PC. I have no issue with it. Then again, I'm a science nerd not an art nerd or a computer nerd or anything fancy like that. So what do I know?

PC.

I remember when I first got my iPod, and the thing froze. Upon forgetting the random 2 button-press-reset code and having NO way to find out (I was on a 10+ hour flight.. Joy), I was horrified to find NO way to pull out the battery to force a reset, NO way to manually force it to turn off with a functioning, single Power button and NO way to even mess with ANYTHING. Pissed me off. I can't IMAGINE a similar predicament happening with a Computer. I'd probably throw it against the wall.

I will never travel to a STORE to have someone else tell me all the crap he knows about MY computer. Maybe it's just me, I love to fix my PC... Myself. Without bringing in some obnoxious, trained-at-the-Apple-store "expert" "genius" to tell me all that precious information and access Apple REFUSES to give me about their overpriced machines in the FIRST place.
You know what, Jobs? People pay that much money, they deserve to have better access to their machine better than ANY Apple genius.

Or maybe I'm still stuck on the fact that I can't Physically OPEN my Ipod. That.. traumatizes me. I can't open it up? At all? Really? Ever?

Yes, PCs glitch and lock up. But you know what? I can FIX that. There are several ways to restart or shut down a locked PC, and the majority of the time, 5 minutes later it will be right back to working again as if nothing happened.

And frankly...
Why do people keep name-dropping their Dells? Duuuude, Dell sucks because it's a DELL. Not because it's a PC. My mom has a Toshiba, NO PROBLEMS since she's got it, save for a slight Windows loading glitch that proved for maybe 10 minutes of annoyance once or twice.

I have a Vaio, a beautiful Sony Vaio with a Vista that works excellently and it has NO PROBLEMS. It doesn't freeze, either, since every Mac user will insist that Windows "freezes, like, all the time and my Mac soo doesn't."

I hate the interface of the Mac, I hated using a Mac, I found it to be completely NOT user friendly to me.
(Nothing is more simple than the PC folders/My-Computer system. Where are my files? OH! Right where I PUT THEM. IN THE EXACT FOLDER. No confusion, folks. I never have to doubt where something is, because I name my folders and keep them clear and organized.)

And as far as looks goes... I can't believe some people buy an Apple just because it's pretty. Hey dudes! Guess what! My Vaio looks almost exactly the same, only without that annoying shiny/plastic look that makes it look like some kids toy. It's lean, simple and clean, folks. Attractive without being over the top and overly sparkly, or whatever you kids are into these days. It's nice, plain and simple.

Besides.
A top of the line, customized *that's the thing geeks love* PC will always outperform a Mac. No question.

So what's the verdict? Mac or PC?

People afraid of computers use Macs.

People who can't afford Macs or most software legally use PCs.

Real geeks (ones not afraid of tweaking their shit to their hearts content) use goddamn LINUX.

I am firmly in the second column.

SETTLED.

I guess I'm one of those rare people who doesn't really care. I use both Mac and PC. I don't feel really qualified to compare them since the Mac I use is brand new and the PCs I regularly use are all about 6 years old (I sometimes use my father's, which is new, but it's got Vista, which I don't really like). I just don't get what's the big difference or why Macs are still seen as a cult product, because they aren't anymore. The only thing different about Macs now is that they're seen as cool, and that probably has to do more with the proliferation of iProducts than with the computers themselves. Yeah, when I go to college, I want a MacBook, but that's because I'm a consumer and I want to get the free iPod that comes with it.

This is such a Ford/GM, Coke/Pepsi, McDonald's/Burger King discussion that it verges on the retarded. The true beauty of it is that (vritually) none of you know why you care. Welcome to the machine circa 2008.

The original Macintosh debuted on a Motorola MC68000 processor while the original IBM PC debuted using an Intel 8088 processor (I've programmed on both of them, FWIW). There were genuine functional differences between these two computing architectures (like, say, the difference between a pushrod engine and an overhead cam design). None of that matters anymore. The old (better) Motorola architecture has bitten the dust, and the physical guts of a Mac and a PC are indistinguishable nowadays. This does not mean they are the same -- far from it. What Apple sells today is a different "user experience"...take from that what you will (and apparently many of you take quite a lot -- in the marketing world you folks are referred to as "satisfied customers").

There's another, similar technological war going on in the world of wireless communications. I bet some of you are familiar with it, too. It's GSM (European and AT&T/T-Mobile cellular phones, dubbed "PC" for purposes of this discussion) versus CDMA (all other North American cellular phones, dubbed "Mac"). I bet some of you have GSM phones (generally identified by their use of a so-called "SIM card"), while many others of you are customers of Sprint and Verizon here in the good old US-of-A. Well, that war has pretty much been decided already...and guess what? The PC won again!

The sad fact/hard reality is that entrenched business interests will trump innovative technical design time and time again. The MC68000 was a truly great microprocessor, but Motorola lost out to Intel and Microsoft because the latter two knew how to suck business dick. Same thing with CDMA. CDMA is/was a great technology, but the fact that more people around the world used the other brand means the other brand gets to call the shots.

I like Pajiba because it offers me an opportunity to come back and spend time in the fantastical playground of the imagination, unfettered by the flinty reality of the world beyond the playground's edge...

This is such a Ford/GM, ... it verges on the retarded..."

ARE you fucking KIDDING ME!?!?

Virtually gives the finger to Che.

Everyone knows Ford rules.

pfffffffffffffft, go back to your Lada, comrade.

Che insightful and bang on. (uP's? And what about VAXen, sweet, sweet, competent, indestructible VAXen?

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WOW...

*Chandler*

Could you SWALLOW anymore of Che's boy-butter?

/clean yourself off

Linux. Though maybe a dual or (what the hell Mac OS now runs off similar architecture) triple boot system, just in case there some programs you want that don't run on Linux. Especially for games.

CC CLAN MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!

step up and get RAILED *flashes complicated gang sign*

BITCHES w00000000000000000t!

usually commercials and ads don't effect me one way or another, but because of the Think Different Apple ads from the late 90's i have actually made a conscious decision never to buy an Apple/Mac product.

those fucking pretentious-as-shit self important douchey ads really pissed the fuck out of me.

i'm sure they got permission from, and/or paid, Dylan, Ali, Richard Branson, and Ted Turner for the rights to use their images, but i'd be interested in knowing what gives them the right to use use MLK Jr's and Gandhi's images? what the fuck does Amelia Earhart have to do with computers? John Lennon is probably trying to divorce Yoko Ono from the beyond the grave for allowing Apple to use their image. and in one version of the ad they show all of these historic figures - MLK, Gandhi, Lennon, Henson, Picasso - and then at the end...Jerry fucking Seinfeld?

fuck you, Apple Computers Inc.

i'm suprised they didn't include that fucking picture of Che Guevara.

the above, coupled with the fact that i'm a cheap bastard and my father is a sys admin, means i've been running Ubuntu Linux for the past two years and have no complaints whatsoever.

This thread warms my cold, logical, geeky heart.

A Lada, Slim? What have you got against the Italians, anyhow? Lada, Skoda, Yugo -- they're all Fiats at heart. Godtopusdammit, I hate it when your venom winds up somehow being right in spite of itself. Here's the irony: my first car was a white 1975 Fiat 124 Sport Coupe. I loved that car...until the under-engineered timing belt broke and did to the engine what numerous women have done to my heart since. So I'll see your pfffffffffffffft and raise you by pppffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffttttt.

On to BierceAmbrose we go. You engage me, you technopolitical witticist, you. Seriously, VAXen? Damn straight! I have a soft spot in my heart for the PDP-11, truth be told. The first operating system I wrote was a real-time kernel for the PDP-11; built a company around that little mother and rode the horse until the market crash of '87. Parlayed that knowledge into a VAX VMS systems programming gig on a backroom system supporting the then-exotic technology known as "cellular phones". The rest, as they say, is history. The Boston-based company I work for now is littered with ex-DEC people, so the creed lives on. Remember "Soul of a New Machine"? I always thought Tracy Kidder spent time at the wrong company -- Data General was full of useless wankers. Oh well.

Now we have PC vs. Mac. Ho hum. If Microsoft had just gone ahead and licensed Digital Research's DOS way back in the olden days then we would be looking at a vastly different computerscape today. Instead they cheaped out and we're stuck with the QDOS descendant known as Windows. Blurgh. Meanwhile the Xerox PARC boys over at Apple made hay with the Mac and have just managed to be a thorn in Microsoft's corporate paw for an entire generation now.

Then there's Linux. Bulletproof, my ass. I was on a 15-hour Delta flight from Atlanta to Seoul yesterday, and the Linux-powered entertainment system crashed three times. How do I know it was Linux, you might ask (well, you might not but I'm going to force the issue anyway)? I know this because the little seatback screen flashed the Red Hat reboot sequence every time the movie I -- and everyone else -- was watching blanked out so the OS could catch its breath.

Software is software is software, people, and the next one of us who gets it right will be the first. Just keep investing inordinate amounts of emotion so I can continue to have a job.

Che, what's up! You're hanging out in my old 'hood. Swing by my favourite bar in Hongdae for me: Route 66. Their Long Island Iced Teas are lethal.

Virenda:
Windows is for middle america and those that enjoy AOL and George Bush. :) They're the ones that go to Best Buy to use Geek Squad, or if for any reason somethings not working "right" they just go buy another computer.

Wow, you sound quite misinformed. I don't know what PC-using idiot gave you the impression that we're all loaded, braindead, and un-savvy enough to go consult the Geek Squaders. Seriously. Enjoy AOL? George Bush? Where did that even come from? That makes no sense.

Che, I love my new html skillz, and they're all thanks to you! I'll try not to flaunt them too much. I don't want to seem 'flashy'.

Have you been to any of the palaces yet? Gyongbokgung is very nice, I spent the entire day there once. And it's got some pretty awesome architecture mixes in the artist's district (can't recall the name...) but I believe that district is due east from the palace. There is also Cheongbokgung for a palace, but I found it to be less grand than Gyong.

I taught english in Seoul for a year, so I got quite familiar with the ins and outs. Myeongdong is great for a more western-style shopping and coffee hang outs, if you're sick of all the touristy stuff!

I also got familiar with Thailand and Cambodia while I was gone. My next visit out there will (hopefully) include Laos. Perhaps all the monk-burning chaos will have subsided by then?

I'll be honest. I have a brand new black MacBook for one reason and one reason only: Because it's SEXY. I know it does certain stuff, and it's good for people who do certain stuff...graphic whos-a-what's it or whatever. That's fine. But I know that when I bust this shit out at the library or in an airport people look at me and know: That bitch is SEXY. Her computer is sexy, therefore SHE is sexy. And deep down, any Mac user feels the same way. PCs just don't have the same type of appeal. I know it to be true, and so does every other geek on the face of the planet. Macs gave us sex appeal.

There are few things that I'm ashamed of, and this is not one of them: I am a Mac user, and I am a shallow elitist.

Whatever the platform, I hate laptops. I cannot type on a flat, level surface, dammit (to say nothing of the touchpad cursor)! I'll give Kristen the benefit of the doubt that she's being hyperbolic and not entirely serious, but really, seeing anyone's laptop doesn't arouse any ardor in me--it makes me think "they're gonna knock my door one day and take away my desktop, I just know it". Now, I like to help people, that's a big reason why I have the job I do, and if someone's having a problem with their laptop then I try to figure out the problem and I've managed to learn more about how they work through these trial-and-error diagnoses (ie. "your antenna's not turned on", "that's cause this shit has no RAM", etc), and what happens? Have a few successes and you're the guy to call on! I'm the Answer Man for your overheated underpowered stuff that I don't want to own or even touch! And would it KILL you to use the battery once in a while? That's what you're supposed to do when you don't have an accessible outlet.

It's rechargeable, I promise. It's part of that whole "wireless mobile computing" thing. You can't charge it up at home, along with your phone (yeah, I see your phone on the floor there. And if the battery's dying then turn it off. Got an important call you're waiting for? Wait for it elsewhere. You probably don't notice when your smoke alarm battery is dying either, do you? That persistent annoying chirp? That's the sound of your ignorance!) I don't feel like filing a Workers Comp form because I smashed my jaw on a table after falling over your tripwire.

I like EQUIPMENT, fuckers! I will not raise the white flag to low quality digital audio, text messages and Swiss Army electronics! And I've gotta wait a week to get my 3200 speed film processed, and I'm glad, because it's gonna look GOOD.

Seriously, with these little blocky hands? You'd develop a grudge too.

PC all the way, its all about customization

my case is airbrushed with Killer Instinct characters on it, and i couldnt be happier with my quad core sex symbol

and Jay i couldnt agree more, laptops are irritating as fuck, for me what annoys me is when you brush against the touch pad and start typing in the middle of an already typed line

desktops are where its at and so far nothing has been better for me and what i do(and thats 90% gaming)

I need my Apple MacBook.

I love my Apple MacBook.

I'm a graphic designer (hobby), do a bunch of production stuff, toy with Adobe suites, create/edit websites...it's all so easy and awesome with an Apple MacBook!

And yes...it's true.

When you see someone with an Apple computer, you HAVE to say, "Nice computer, buddy!"

It's just the Apple way of life.

I built my own home file server on an old PPC PowerBook, which now runs a finely-tuned Gentoo Linux. It's fast (under normal load), quiet, small, cool (in the thermal sense), and has a built-in keyboard and screen for troubleshooting and two built-in batteries in case the power goes out. If I need more horsepower, I SSH cycles to my work box, which also runs Gentoo Linux (though on a different platform).

For my everyday laptop and my non-geek husband's everyday desktop, though, it's Mac all the way. Not only does the OS Just Work, but it also gives me a BSD command-line and a full complement of command-line programs (automatic rsync backups FTW).

PC. If it's good enough for my dad who's been using computers since the '70's, it's good enough for me. And anyway, as a history major, I don't need any of the more art/graphic-related features of a Mac like some of my friends do.

My mother was (is) really into computers, and I remember having all sorts of crazy things around the house- a Tandy (probably an '86 or something, with actual floppy disks and DOS, i think), an Apple IIe, and some PC thing that ran Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? and had color. And dot matrix.

Then we got a Gateway2000 with Windows 95 and internet, but I still used the old Apple to write school papers because it had a good printer. Or something, I don't really know. I always switched back and forth in high school, and in my college sales jobs I used Windows' POS and Mac's MYOB, and I guess what I'm trying to say is that I've used both, and I like both.

I personally have a PC (3 year old Compaq Presario) because it was cheap, and I've had some small software problems with it, but nothing that a call to my geeky brother-in-law didn't fix easily. I've got spyware protection, and antivirous, and I'm golden. I'm sure I'd be just as happy if it were a mac.

Maybe I'm just young enough that the early issues weren't apparent to me. I don't know. I don't get the big deal. They both seem user friendly to me, but I admit I can't troubleshoot a mac.

Uh, Protoguy? I'm confused. One can do all those things on a Mac. I can do/have done all those things on mine.

One exception: I do not care about the game issue.

So Matthew, are PCs pancakes, or waffles? Kudos for the delicious metaphor use.

Although I wish Apple would quite bashing PCs. That "I'm a Mac" campaign is still beating a horse that hasn't even fallen over yet. Give it up already, and stick with the flashy sparkly itouch/pod/etc sing-song videos.

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