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The Daily Trade Round-Up / Daniel Carlson

Trade News | August 2, 2007 | Comments (55)


So, there’s a bit of geek news that’s gotten lost in the shuffle recently. I know that some of you out there are fans of “Heroes,” even though I can’t bring myself to really like it. I’ve tried, too, but it seems like the show relies too much on melodramatic pronouncements and terrible voice-over narration to drive the story. (Fans can feel free to excoriate me for my wayward beliefs in the comment section; if so, please USE ALL CAPS LIKE THE CRAZY GUY WHO COMMENTED ON THE SECRET SHAMES GUIDE AND WROTE LIKE THIS. Things like that make my day.) Anyway, Zachary Quinto, who plays Sylar on “Heroes” and was previously best known for his work on “24,” is probably thanking his lucky stars he’s on the NBC show, since it’s undoubtedly the geek cachet he’s earned that helped him land the role of Spock in the new Star Trek movie J.J. Abrams is directing. Of course, it probably also helps that he looks a bit like Leonard Nimoy, who will also appear in the film as the elder incarnation of Spock. I’ve got mixed feelings about the project, myself: “Star Trek” skews a little too utopian for my tastes now, though when I was a kid I had no problem with the fact that a few generations from now we’ll completely work out world hunger and global war, which will leave us free as a people to explore space in matching jumpsuits. But Abrams is a proven name when it comes to action, and his underrated Mission: Impossible III showed that he could pay his respects to an established franchise while also giving it a welcome shot in the arm. But who am I kidding: If Shatner signs on, I’m so totally there.

In comic book news this week (deal), Edward Burns has pacted with Virgin Comics to create the terribly titled Dock Walloper, a Prohibition-era gangster book that will serve as a launching pad for an eventual feature. Burns is set to begin work on the feature script in the fall, and will write himself in as Mad Dog Madden, an aging crime lord. What does the title mean? I have no idea. But I’m curious to see how Burns marries his “five neighborhood guys hang out and talk about women” motif with a gritty, Sin City kind of tale. I’m resisting the urge to make a joke about She’s the Walloper. … Oh hell, I went and did it anyway.

Finally, this morning’s trailer watch brings the clip for 3:10 to Yuma, James Mangold’s remake of the 1957 Western, this one starring Christian Bale, Russell Crowe, Peter Fonda, and Alan Tudyk. Great modern Westerns seem few and far between — I loves me some Unforgiven — but this one looks like it could do the trick. Interesting trivia: The film was shot in New Mexico, but when a freak snowstorm hit and covered the desert landscape Mangold needed, the crew brought in literally tons of dirt to hide the snow and preserve the look. Just a little extra information for you; that’s the Pajiba difference.

Daniel Carlson is the managing editor of Pajiba and a low-level employee at a Hollywood industry magazine. If he lived in the Old West, he would probably die of the clap or a gunshot wound or something before he hit 30, but he would have one hell of a time going out. You can visit his blog, Slowly Going Bald.


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Comments

I want to comment in all caps, really I do, but I fear that if I even attempt something like that I'll suffer from a fatal aneurism. Someone else will just have to make your day I'm afraid.

Zachary Quinto as Spock makes my ovaries all confused as I point blank refuse to find Spock sexy but I still want to have Sylar's superpowered babies. Actors should really just stick to one character and stop confusing me.

Normally I avoid Westerns (that aren't set in space) like the proverbial plague but the cast for 3:10 to Yuma looks quite frankly delightful so I'm willing to give it a try.

Posted by: Alex the Odd at August 2, 2007 7:02 AM

heyyy...! First book reviews, now comic book news.. Is Pajiba branching out? Are you going to be bitchy and scathing about everything?

Posted by: Jaap at August 2, 2007 7:09 AM

"I know that some of you out there are fans of "Heroes," even though I can't bring myself to really like it. I've tried, too, but it seems like the show relies too much on melodramatic pronouncements and terrible voice-over narration to drive the story."


Thank you! I agree.

Posted by: Ben at August 2, 2007 8:15 AM

I love getting the comic news updates--I have come to depend on Pajiba more than ever, now, what with movies and TV and comics.

And even though I watch Heroes, it's a love/hate relationship. Heroes, how I wish I could quit you. I was just about ready to but then they started playing down the stripper storyline (which I hated) and started playing up Hiro (whom I love) and it reeled me back in. But if it weren't for Hiro, I probably wouldn't watch, so no excoriation here.

Posted by: Sally at August 2, 2007 8:46 AM

seems like the show relies too much on melodramatic pronouncements and terrible voice-over narration to drive the story."

Not to mention blatantly ripping off a variety of comic books.

Christian Bale, Russell Crowe, Peter Fonda, and Alan Tudyk.

Sweet Jumpin' Baby Jesus, I just danced a little jig. I love westerns, but in the last 20 years there have been verrrrry few good ones (Unforgiven, Tombstone and...?). This looks like it could be great.

And Christian Bale has officially reached the point where I'll watch him in anything. I'll watch him put up wallpaper for two hours. Hell, I'll watch him read a book.

Posted by: TK at August 2, 2007 9:07 AM

Mmmm, Christian Bale, tasty.

Posted by: Agent Scully at August 2, 2007 9:35 AM

Sally, you spoke the truth for me and probably a lot of Heroes fans. It's like the damn show gives you a black eye, then lulls you back with promises of change. Damn it, why does it have to be so much bad around a center of such goodness?

And I can top you, TK. I would watch Christian Bale read Ayn Rand.

Posted by: Vermillion at August 2, 2007 9:35 AM

Unforgiven is damned good movie. I am looking forward to 3:10 to Yuma. Hopefully it will be a good one.


As Alex said, I cannot fulfill your wish for comments in all caps. All caps make my eyes bleed.

Posted by: Melody at August 2, 2007 9:37 AM

I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT TO SAY, JUST WANTED TO MAKE DAN'S DAY IS ALL.

ISN'T THE DEFINITION OF "DOCK WALLOPER" SOMEONE WHO BEATS THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF DOCKS? I MUST CONSULT WEBSTERS. THAT, AND I'M TRULY DISAPPOINTED EVERYONE DIDN'T RESPOND IN ALL CAPS. I PROMISE YOU WON'T DIE. COME DOWN WITH A MILD CASE OF VD, NOW THAT'S ANOTHER STORY. BUT NOT DIE. HE GAVE YOU A LICENSE TO ILL, PEOPLE! GEEZ.

Posted by: Calitri at August 2, 2007 9:45 AM

POTSING IN CASP ISNT TEH WROST OF IT. DAMN, THSI MAKSE MY HED HRT JST TYRING TO RITE ABDLY.

U GUYZ SUK. I WANST MONTSTER TRUX AND SHORT SOHRTS.

There, happy now?

Posted by: WS at August 2, 2007 9:52 AM

I would watch Christian Bale watch someone read Ayn Rand.

Oh yes.

Capslock makes the Baby Jesus twitch uncontrollably.

Posted by: Alex the Odd at August 2, 2007 10:35 AM

Coming soon? Coming soon? Not soon enough for me, I'll tell ya.

Love Elmore Leonard. Love Bale & hope this will be a good come back for Russell Crowe. I guess after the phone thing he had to take a time out in the corner, but hopefully he's all done being punished now & they'll let him be in great movies again.

Posted by: GinKirk at August 2, 2007 10:37 AM

Capslock makes the Baby Jesus twitch uncontrollably.

IT'S STUFF LIKE THIS THAT MAKES PAJIBA IRRESISTIBLE. ESPECIALLY WHEN I'M SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING.

HEROS SUXS!1eleven! 44HUNDRED DID IT FRIST AND BETETR!1! DOCK WOALLPAPER IDEAR SOUNDS LIKE SH\T ALLEN TUDICK RULEZ

...Can't...any more...oh, God, my head...

Posted by: Jerce at August 2, 2007 11:07 AM

Ow! My brain just punched me from the inside.

Knock it off, Jerce.

Posted by: TK at August 2, 2007 11:25 AM

AHH! Comments are amazing as ever! I would love to watch Christian Bale put up wallpaper for two hours, especially if he had no shirt on, or a t-shirt that molded to his beautiful body, OMG!

Posted by: lickoriche at August 2, 2007 11:44 AM

Why did you put "deal" after "In comic book news"? Are you expecting an outcry of geek overload? We don't give a shit whether you talk about comic books or not. I think you need to get over it, Danny boy.

Posted by: markus at August 2, 2007 12:58 PM

J.J. CAN HAS SHATNER? PLZ GIVES US SHATNER.
(sorry, all-caps lends itself to the lol format, I couldn't resist)

Posted by: s. pisaster at August 2, 2007 1:01 PM

I know that was the "approved for all audiences" trailer, so I will excuse the lack "cocksuckers". If Hollywood thinks that they can make a cocksuckerless western in a post Deadwood world they are sorely mistaken. Cocksuckers.

Posted by: X at August 2, 2007 1:18 PM

Jesus, Mary and Joe Cocker there are some gems 'round these parts today!

"I would watch Christian Bale watch someone read Ayn Rand."

"Ow! My brain just punched me from the inside."

Fantastic.

While I too am on the train to BaleCanDoNoWrongsville, Mangold is just this side of hacktastic and Russell Crowe? Sheesh, outside of The Insider (did I really just do that?) I don't care for his work. I'm predicting this'll be a hot mess. Sorry, I mean IMMA PERDICTING THIS"LL BE A HOT MESS!

Posted by: Beckylooo at August 2, 2007 1:20 PM

I could watch Christian Bale watch Heroes.

That's all I've got. It's too damn hot out today to muster up the energy required to give a shit.

Posted by: Kolby at August 2, 2007 1:39 PM

Kolby, it is hot today, isn't it? Maybe it's because MY OFFICE IS ONE THOUSAND FUCKING DEGREES!

Fuckers.

Beckyloo - I know Crowe is something of an asshole, but let's not forget LA Confidential, Gladiator, and Romper Stomper.

Posted by: TK at August 2, 2007 2:49 PM

Christian Bale in a Western. Does anyone know who is costuming this film so I can beg them to put him in leather chaps?

Off to change my underwear now.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 2, 2007 2:52 PM

i'd watch christian bale reprise his role in "newsies". THAT'S how much I love him.

Posted by: supermeg at August 2, 2007 3:02 PM

TK - You're right, I should be chided for forgetting LA Confidential. But I hated Gladiator and haven't seen Romper Stomper. So, yeah...

Posted by: Beckylooo at August 2, 2007 3:42 PM

PaddyDog - feel free to throw in some pleading eyes from me when you go and make that request. Oh my, I'm all of a flutter...

And as we're talking Christian Bale here... and I'm in a sharing mood I feel you all should know that I, Alex, have physically felt the touch of Bale. Please, please save your jealous and murderouous glances, I know you all hate me but it just has to be said. And damn the man is tall. And now I have to go and take a cold shower.

Posted by: Alex the Odd at August 2, 2007 3:45 PM

Dan, The Proposition was also a great western, and it included Guy Pearce in some yummy clothes (although I can't recall whether or not chaps were involved), but it rocked. And Danny Huston was impressive.

What's up with Christian Bale? I mean, yeah, he's hot and a wonderful actor, but he's just a bit too, I don't know, mainstream jock for me. I'd take Guy Pearce in sweaty chaps any day over Christian Bale.

[Yeah, I thought The Proposition was great, too. But it seems like almost every other film is a knockoff of the same thriller-procedural-action template that's been used for years, whereas really good Westerns don't happen that often today. --DC]

Posted by: Rachael at August 2, 2007 3:53 PM

I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking Gladiator was utterly stupid. There's a small moment in 'South Park' that sums it up for me: Russell Crowe standing in the coliseum shouting, "Oi'm a Spain-yud, boi cracky!"

Posted by: Jerce at August 2, 2007 4:01 PM

I agree. Which is what makes the death of Deadwood just soooo lamentable.

[Amen. --DC]

Posted by: Rachael at August 2, 2007 4:02 PM

Alex the Odd: Can I touch you where you brushed against him? Yeah, I'm that smitten. Last week Mr. PaddyDog called to say Christian Bale was standing right outside his building (down town Chicago, filming Bat Man) and even he (Mr. PaddyDog) was smitten.

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 2, 2007 4:14 PM

I cannot blame Mr PaddyDog one bit! I was with my MrTheOdd of the moment when he knocked into me (and apologised *swoon*) and I swear I saw that boy go weak at the knees.

You may join the queue

All this talk of Deadwood has got me craving butterscotch schnaps (and a cookie to anyone who follows my line of reasoning).

Posted by: Alex the Odd at August 2, 2007 4:35 PM

Of course the Pajiba comments devolve into lolspeak on the day I choose to wear my "Good grammar costs nothing!" shirt for the first time. Of course. That sort of thing is why I only look at the pictures on icanhascheezburger.com and stay far far away from the comments.

I have yet to see a Christian Bale movie where I wouldn't willingly hop into the sack with him at a moments notice. Note: I haven't seen Newsies or American Psycho. But I have seen The Machinist.

Posted by: Genny at August 2, 2007 5:26 PM

AlexTheOdd: You must be my lost twin. Mr. Bale and Deadwood!! You bring the butterscotch schnapps and I'll bring the canned peaches. We'll talk! By the way, I brought Cornish Pasties to the Deadwood finale party (if you follow MY line of reasoning).

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 2, 2007 7:32 PM

Maybe we should do an afternoon Comment Diversion of what we would watch Christian Bale do.

I would watch Christian Bale do a one-man, off-Broadway show of "Captivity", that would encourage audience participation and would provide the first 3 rows with one of those plastic shields recycled from a Gallagher show. He would play the parts of Elisha Cuthbert and her tormentor. Oh wait, isn't that American Psycho?

Posted by: JP at August 2, 2007 8:24 PM

Okay, damn you all, I've been crowing about (pun intended) 3:10 to Yuma for weeks. And Russell Crowe, while a complete jackass dolt, is a fine actor and a pretty reliable indicator that a film will be at least tolerable. I'm not sure what he would be "coming back" from. A Good Year was shite, sure, but here's the sequence before that:

Cinderella Man
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
A Beautiful Mind
Proof of Life
(stinker)
Gladiator
The Insider

Yeah, that's one shameful resume over the past few years. He's had some mis-steps (Mystery, Alaska anyone?), but by and large I trust him as much as any actor out there to deliver the goods on a regular basis.

And: Ed Burns apologist here. Maybe No Looking Back should have been my shameful pleasure.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at August 2, 2007 8:40 PM

I could watch Bale watching himself in Reign of Fire. What? Everybody forgot about that one, didn't they? Cocksuckers.

Posted by: X at August 2, 2007 10:55 PM

Thanks for the 3:10 to Yuma trailer. I saw it in theaters a few weeks ago, I think before Sicko, and have been stoked since. I'm pretty sure I could watch Christian Bale surf the internet until he stumbled across this gem of a comment diversion.

but socalled: I liked Mystery, Alaska! Mainly for Hank Azaria, though, gotta admit. But Russell Crowe was working a gorgeous man mane.

Posted by: Hannah at August 2, 2007 11:18 PM

I had something to say about Star Trek, but got distracted by the idea of Christian Bale in leather pants reading Ayn Rand and eating chocolate chip cookies.

Posted by: lunabelle at August 3, 2007 12:26 AM

Yes, but does MI:3 redeem Seasons 3-5 of Alias? Because JJ Abrahms has been dead to me since that amazing shit covered death spiral.

Posted by: hoorah at August 3, 2007 2:46 AM

I am surprised that amidst all the Christian Bale love, no one has mentioned Equilibrium, which, while not a perfect film, is much better than it has a right to be, and in which The Bale kicks much ass.

My hat's off to X, though, for being the first to mention Reign of Fire, which I loved. I like some nice ripe cheese; sue me. Besides: Alice Krige.

Posted by: Jerce at August 3, 2007 9:18 AM

Hannah, I couldn't agree with you more about Mystery, Alaska. The man mane was rockin, and Hank Azaria was great.

Posted by: Jen at August 3, 2007 9:22 AM

EQUILIBRIUM! GUN-FU!!

The stupidest, yet somehow coolest, idea ever!

Posted by: TK at August 3, 2007 9:35 AM

The Gun-Fu is awesome. Equilibrium is one of the few movies in our flat (the others are Stranger Than Fiction, The Princess Bride, Almost Famous and True Romance) that we force visitors to watch if they haven't already. Consequently every single person in my social circle fully appreciates how awesome the movie is especially the end sequence (a cheer goes up when the line goes flat, every time, without fail). We all claim to have different reasons for our supreme fondness of the movie (Emily Watson, shameless emotional manipulation by means of a puppy, Sean Bean, the colour coded fight scenes, Sean Pertwee) but we all came to love it for one reason alone: The scene where Christian Bale uses his own motherfucking bicep as a pillow.

Yes.

Posted by: Alex the Odd at August 3, 2007 10:12 AM

Isn't that song at the beginning of the trailer from Man on Fire? Sounds familiar...

Posted by: Weck at August 3, 2007 10:51 AM

So glad the Husband and I are not alone in our appreciation for Equilibrium. Other reasons to love on it:
1) Taye Diggs makes an excellent foil for Bale's character--in fact, this may be his finest performance to date. Watching them fight makes things happen in my undies.
2) Angus MacFayden. My husband will watch anything this man does onscreen.
3) William Fichtner in a small role, being quietly devastating as always.
4) Emily Watson and Sean Bean have already been mentioned.
5) and possibly awesomest: David Hemmings. DAVID FUCKING HEMMINGS.

Posted by: Jerce at August 3, 2007 10:56 AM

Let me put on my geek hat here: It is called Gun-Kata, not Gun-Fu.

And yes, Equilibrium does rock. It is part of my litmus test of movies. If you cannot enjoy at least one of them, you go firmly into the "acquaintance" bin.

Funnily enough, I have Richard Roeper to thank for introducing this movie to me. I was flipping through channels, and Ebert & Roeper was on, taking about some new movie with the guy from American Psycho. All I know is, they showed the initial shootout in the dark scene, and Roeper was going crazy over it, saying that he loves the hell out of it. I figured "what the hell?" and never regretted it since. Except for the uncomfortable questioning of my sexuality whenever Bale shows up shirtless, but I have learned to live with that.

So to review: Gun-KATA; Thank you, Roeper; Bale makes me temporarily gay.

"Calmly. Cooly. Entirely without incident."

"No." *flatline* "Not without incident."

Posted by: Vermillion at August 3, 2007 11:04 AM

Count me firmly into the Equilibrium fan club. A world without art? That hits me to the quick. That is one grade-A B-movie, folks, and I don't care who hears me.

Jerce--even more respect for you for having shouted one out for Hemmings. Blow-Up, Deep Red and Equilibrium? He's my man.

Posted by: Ranylt at August 3, 2007 1:01 PM

Vermillion - shup up, you. I like gun-fu better. Gun-kata makes me think of Gymkata, which brings distinctly unpleasant things into my mind.

So there. Don't correct me again, or I will gun-fu your ass.

Posted by: TK at August 3, 2007 1:41 PM

Yeah, yeah, TK. First Kat Dennings, now this. I don't see why I have any reason to fear you or your gun-phooey.

Posted by: Vermillion at August 3, 2007 1:58 PM

Oh, it is ON.

When Kat and I wed, you're not invited to the wedding.

Posted by: TK at August 3, 2007 2:49 PM

So, is it safe to assume that Equilibrium would be a safe bet for a rental tonight? I mean, that is, IF HusbandofKolby is not too drained from his day of golf & Budweiser to go see The Bourne Ulitmatum. IF.

Posted by: Kolby at August 3, 2007 3:12 PM

When Kat and I wed, you're not invited to the wedding.

That's okay, I'll be there for the honeymoon. You will know it's me when Kat is screaming my name in ecstasy and you are outside the hotel room in the fetal position crying. Make sure to tell the cleaning lady we need fresh towels, mmmkay? Thanks.

Kolby: I say give it a shot. It isn't like it's going to destroy your brain if you do. Unlike Ultraviolet.

Posted by: Vermillion at August 3, 2007 3:16 PM

Why would anyone willingly submit themselves to ultra violet? Seriously, there's no earthly reason.

If it's wrong to be sent all a-flutter by your manly posturing TK and Vermillion then hot damn I don't want to be right. My life is dull right now, I'll take all the excitement I can get.

(for the record I was aware of the whole "gun-kata" thing but I do verily prefer the term "gun-fu". Sorry.)

Posted by: Alex the Odd at August 3, 2007 10:44 PM

Alan Tudyk has work? Yay!

Posted by: seth at August 4, 2007 3:55 PM

oh...oh...oh....Alan Tudyk as a bad guy. Christian who?

Posted by: jen at August 7, 2007 2:13 PM

Thanks for the comment about "Heroes". I like it, but can´t seem to love it the way everyone else around me does. Here is my issue: There is absolutely NOTHING at stake for the characters here. There are so many heroes now (and thousands more that seem to be coming down the pike by the end of the next season) as well as such widespread and powerful abilities that they all have that there is always a way to defeat the bad guy or guys.

Just send the wimpy and whiny time-traveler ninja far enough back in time to kill Sylar as a baby if you have too. Or send the pretty chearleader chick who never dies to distract Sylar with her tits while she stabs him. Even if she dies in a gruesome way while doing it, she´s gonna come back better and perkier than ever. Or send the surly invisible man in if that doesn´t work, or the chubby stupid one who can read the minds of the guards or bad guys to break in, or the one who travels through walls (oh, you know he´s not really dead, don´t you? - he´s one of the few black characters and they ain´t getting rid of him so quickly), or the chick who can impersonate anyone (you know she´s gonna switch to the good side at some point because she seemed so motherly with the little electrical genius kid), or the pretty boy milquetoast brother that has everyone´s powers when he´s near them (you know he didn´t die from the bomb blast in the sky either). God my head hurts from trying to remember all the way-too-many crappy characters.

I want to like the show so much and I really think it has some moments of greatness (I especially appreciate it´s very dark tones), but if they´re gonna keep people like me watching, they are going to have to kill off almost all of the heroes in some freak accident so that they are back to 10 or so characters with moderately cool (but not too extreme) powers so there is actually something at stake for them. How do you sustain drama when there is always a way to fix the problem relatively easily? It´s like a soap opera in that way where a character dies, but comes back as the evil twin or with a new face because of the head transplant he got on a secret island after his beheading in a car crash. It´s ridiculously simple to fix the problems with all these thousands of powerful heroes. Anyone with me on this or am I just a crumudgeon that just doesn´t get it?

Posted by: Tallsonofagun at August 12, 2007 12:01 PM