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Silver Lining Part Two

By Steven Lloyd Wilson | Posted Under Trade News | Comments (31)



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George R.R. Martin’s A Song of Ice and Fire, as you’ve probably heard previously, has been bought up by HBO and a pilot is being put together. The project has been described as using each season to cover one of the novels in the series, which is currently up to 4 books out of an author-projected final tally of 7. That’s problematic, since Martin originally envisioned only three books in the series and has gradually slowed down his release pace: book one 1996, book two 1998, book three 2000, book four 2005, book five … nobody knows and he ain’t saying. Some book sellers have jokingly put the release date (which in a manner similar to the date when we will have fusion energy, is always one year away) as 2035 instead of constantly updating it every few months. So if the show is good, expect pauses between seasons that make those “Sopranos” gaps look like bathroom intermissions by the third or fourth season.

If you haven’t read it, you might not be a morally suspect person, but you are walking on thin ice. It’s been described sometimes as “the Sopranos in Middle Earth,” but I think that the closest comparison would really be “Battlestar Galactica in Middle Earth.” This story is dark. Really dark. People die, manipulative bastards win while good men lose. It’s one of the very few fantasy novels that don’t read like modern society projected onto horses, swords and castles. This is the middle ages and life is cheaper than the shit tossed out of the rickety windows and into the streets. It will rip your heart out, not just by showing you the brutality of man, but by having main characters die by the cart load, sometimes for no good reason at all, and then twist the knife by spending half the next book sympathetically telling the story from the point of view of the evil son of a bitch who killed those protagonists. It’s bloody, dark, and beautiful.

George R.R. Martin summarized his approach as having been vaguely sickened by reading dozens of fantasy novels in which vast continent spanning wars are fought, and nobody who matters actually dies, or at least they are carefully selected to die in the most heroic way possible. A Song of Ice and Fire is a counterpoint to those novels. As Martin put it: “When you play a game of thrones you win or you die. There is no middle ground.”

The real news here is that primary casting has finished up, with yet another silver lining coming out of the “Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles” cancellation: the part of Cersei has been filled by Lena Headey. That brings us to a final main cast of:

Sean Bean (Eddard Stark)
Jennifer Ehle (Catelyn Stark)
Richard Madden (Robb Stark)
Sophie Turner (Sansa Stark)
Maisie Williams (Arya Stark)
Kit Harrington (Jon Snow)
Alfie Allen (Theon Greyjoy)
Mark Addy (Robert Baratheon)
Lena Headey (Cersei Lannister)
Shia LaBeouf (Sandor Clegane)
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau (Jamie Lannister)
Peter Dinklage (Tyrion Lannister)
Jack Gleeson (Joffrey Baratheon)
Tamzin Merchant (Daenerys Targaryen)
Harry Lloyd (Viserys Targaryen)
Iain Glen (Jorah Mormont)

Nifty. Filming for the pilot begins October 29th.

****Take a deep breath. Shia was just a test to see if you were reading or skimming.









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Comments

Awww fuck you. I was about to go on some ginormous fucking rant on the fact that Shia was in this.

You sir...are a dick.

Posted by: Deistbrawler at September 2, 2009 8:17 PM

Jebus, you scared me with that shit!

Honestly, does anyone expect somebody other than Ray Stevenson to play Sandor? Yeah he's "older" than the character is supposed to be, but with the way they've been rolling on these so far, I don't predict any other outcome.

Posted by: Snath at September 2, 2009 8:33 PM

I don't think they've officially announced it yet, but George R.R. Martin put up some clues about the actor who plays Sandor. Winter is Coming thinks that it is likely a Scottish actor named Rory McCann. He played Michael Armstrong in Hot Fuzz - the big guy who just says "Yarp."

Posted by: Aubsbobs at September 2, 2009 8:33 PM

I'm not sure I'd care to watch Lena in anything else. She was definitely the weakest link of TSCC.

Posted by: Cindy at September 2, 2009 8:39 PM

Haven't heard of it before because I'm a sheltered child or something, but it sounds fantastic.

Extra points of Nikolaj Coster-Waldau takes his clothes off.

Posted by: Annie UhOh at September 2, 2009 8:42 PM

Extra points of Nikolaj Coster-Waldau takes his clothes off.

I volunteer to do it for him (us).

Posted by: Cindy at September 2, 2009 8:49 PM

I am so excited that SEAN. BEAN!!!! is in an HBO show, I could plotz.

Posted by: Ginger at September 2, 2009 8:57 PM

Extra points of Nikolaj Coster-Waldau takes his clothes off.

Given who he's playing and the fact that it's on HBO, it's a near-certainty.

Posted by: appwitch at September 2, 2009 9:17 PM

Never read these books but I might pick them up despite my hesitation to start series before they've finished. Of course, it really didn't save my any heartache when it came to the Dark Tower books, since I stopped reading the moment Stephen King wrote himself into the story. ANYWAY, I'll put it on my reading list for the possible cannonball reboot ; )

Also I'm glad to know now that when people talk about A Song of Fire and Ice and Game of Thrones they're talking about THE SAME SERIES. I know it seems like a little thing but I thought I was WAY out of the loop but it turns out I'm not. Whew.

Posted by: Rusty (formerly Genny) at September 2, 2009 9:34 PM

Shia LaBeouf (Sandor Clegane)

gagggg
...
Oh thank god.

Posted by: Mick J at September 2, 2009 9:38 PM

OMG you totally got me with that one. I was totally exclaiming with outrage to my husband, when I read your last line. Har har har.... bastard!

Posted by: Jen at September 2, 2009 10:24 PM

Fortunately my eye drifted down to the disclaimer before I had read the entire cast list, so I didn't suffer a stroke when I read Shia = Sandor.

I liked Lena Headey as Sarah Connor, I think I'm in the minority there. But Cersei? I'm not sure she has the chops for it. Nor will she look right as a blond!

Sean Bean & Peter Dinklage: Poifect in every way. Most of the others are unknown to me.

Sopranos comparisons make me nervous. I hope to all that is good in the world that the books don't end like the Sopranos did. If it does I'll use every cent of credit in my name to build an actual working Murdertank.

Posted by: janetfaust at September 2, 2009 10:27 PM

you totally got me!

he's an annoying little shit, but i'd still, you know, sandor his clegane.
then lay him to rest.

Posted by: gp at September 2, 2009 11:03 PM

Dear Mr. Wilson.

Please do not scare us like that. You might spook the herd into a stampede.


Sincerely,
-Alphawhiskey

Posted by: alphawhiskey at September 2, 2009 11:06 PM

I've been really happy with the casting to date for the pilot. You throw in the fact that they have Tom McCarthy of "Station Agent" and "The Visitor" fame directing, it's down right amazing.

I love this series. Too much probably. Between reading and listening to them on my iPod, I've "read" each of the four books 4 times each. In fact, I've listened to them pretty much straight through two times in a row now over the last 3 years. I'm almost done with them for the second time. My desire to do chores will dwindle. My dog (Aegon) may never get walked again...

As for Lena Headey... She was "ok" in both 300 and Terminator. She wasn't the best part of Terminator (probably the weakest), but I don't think the role of Sarah Connor is really all that rewarding. She pretty much has to be tough, somewhat distant, paranoid, and highly over protective of her son. Even in her role in 300 she played the sort of tough, stoic queen. I've never really seen Lena even try to play seductive (and stupid) before.

Sometimes actors can surprise. For example, the guy who played McNulty on The Wire (Dominic West) was the bad Spartan (who Leda killed) in 300 and the bad guy in the latest Punisher movie. He was pretty awful in both movies, but simply rocked as McNulty. He was awesome. Sometimes folks just fit a role. Maybe the reason Leda came off as a bit stiff in 300 and Terminator was because was born to play a seductress like Cersei.

If they pick up this series, I will re-new my HBO subscription.

I could talk about this series all day. I think the books are fantastic. Great themes, great characters, great action, cool, rich interesting world with a fantastic history.

Posted by: ForbiddenDonut at September 3, 2009 1:06 AM

I don't think they've officially announced it yet, but George R.R. Martin put up some clues about the actor who plays Sandor. Winter is Coming thinks that it is likely a Scottish actor named Rory McCann. He played Michael Armstrong in Hot Fuzz - the big guy who just says "Yarp."

Great, now whenever I'm reading the books, Sandor is going to be saying "Yarp" in my head.

Posted by: Snath at September 3, 2009 1:20 AM

Dammit! I don't have HBO!!!!!!! I have to get it now!

Posted by: Four Eyes at September 3, 2009 5:23 AM

Good lord. I do not like fantasy one bit, but that is one heck of a cast - although lord knows I don't need to see Lily Allen's appalling brother in anything.

Posted by: Caspar at September 3, 2009 6:27 AM

*Embarrassingly covers boner with nearest TPS report*

This series of books has infiltrated so many thoughts about my everyday life, it's jarring. I finished the fourth book over a year ago and have been imagining Peter Dinklage as Tyrion since I knew who he was. All odds for the number of Emmys he'll win have been taken off the board. I have never been this excited about a casting decision. Midgets and dwarves usually throw me off, but Dinklage is the fucking man.

And calling Shia a dog via a fantasy series reference is the ultimate nerd move. Bravo.

Posted by: Kballs at September 3, 2009 7:56 AM

Peter Dinklage as Tyrion is definately spot on. He seems to be one of the few midget actors in Hollywood that isn't an instant a caricature of himself (and also, for some unknown reason, has a normal sounding voice).

I IMDB'd the other names...the guy from Still Standing is Robert Baratheon? Will he make lame sit-comy jokes and have an unlikely hot wife? Oh, wait. I think that IS how the story goes.

Guess I'm gonna have to sell a kidney so I can get HBO.

Posted by: ASterisk at September 3, 2009 8:42 AM

Dinklage as Tyrion is on the level of Patrick Stewart as Professor X -- so perfect a match it seems ordained by God.

Lena Headey as Cersei, though... I'm having trouble seeing it. I guess they can dye her hair blonde, and I'm betting she can pull off Cersei's bitterness, but she just doesn't have the cold, "make men swoon" beauty Cersei is said to have. I always imagined Cersei as Rebecca de Mornay circa The Hand That Rocks the Cradle.

But then, I still say this whole thing is a bad idea. Unless Martin has told the producers, "Yeah, Arya's going to be twenty-five when the series ends," they will never be able to produce this show on a schedule that will keep pace with the actors' ages. Frankly, I've given up expecting Martin to finish the series before he dies. And I'm not joking.

Posted by: Todd at September 3, 2009 9:16 AM

But then, I still say this whole thing is a bad idea. Unless Martin has told the producers, "Yeah, Arya's going to be twenty-five when the series ends," they will never be able to produce this show on a schedule that will keep pace with the actors' ages. Frankly, I've given up expecting Martin to finish the series before he dies. And I'm not joking.

Posted by: Todd at September 3, 2009 9:16 AM

That's always been the biggest logistical problem with this series. I thought they would use older actors that looked younger, but I don't think there are many 20 year old actors out there who can really pull off playing a 10 year old. A 30 year old playing a 16 year old, sure, that happens, but once you have characters younger than that you're running into the "Giant Walt" problem.

That said, I don't think this whole thing is a "bad idea." I can't see it lasting more than 1 or 2 seasons simply due to costs. If "Rome" wsa too expensive, I don't see how this series wont be even more unless they do things horribly on the cheap, which isn't their way. Still, I'm totally up for seeing it. Even if it's bad, it's not like it's going to ruin the books or any way at all affect my enjoyment of them.

As for Martin finishing it... Well, yeah, that's a risk. He's what, 60, now? And he's a bit overweight.

He's slowed down to a book every 5 years, assuming he finished the next one within the next 15 months. It gets even worse if you consider the last two books as only being half of what the original book 4 was to supposed be. I can't see him finishing this series in 7 books, which pushes the eventual end date out even further. So, yeah. It's a concern.

**SPOILER ALERT** **THERE BE SPOILERS BELOW***

I think the big problem he is running into is that he's just written himself into too many corners. He's certainly written himself into many, many corners and, I think, that's one of the big reasons this last book is taking so long. There are a number of issues that I just don't know how he resolves. Some of the bigger ones, to me at least, are: How does Tyrion become relevant again? How does Arya become relevant? Bran? Dany's dragons? For the last three it's really just a matter of time, but given how slowly time has moved and how many things from the last book demmand immediate attention (the fates of Arya, Brienne, Cersei, and Sansa) , I don't see how time will progress quick enough to get them in a position they need to be (i.e., Bran mastering whatever the hell he's supposed to master, Arya becoming an actual Faceless Man, unless this whole thing is just some frolic and detour, and Dany's dragons being large enough to be ridden into battle and effective at doing so).

**SPOILER ALERT** **END OF SPOILERS***


He said his original plan was to have a 4-5 year gap between books 3 and 4, but then scrapped it once he started working on book 4.

I think he had everything planned out exceptionally well for books 1-3 and knows where he wants to have the series eventually end, but doesn't exactly know how to get to that end point. Book 4 is really about re-setting the pieces after books 1-3 and the focus is beginning to shift as well towards the end game.

It will be a shame if he doesn't finish it, since I'm dying to know what role certain characters will play (assuming they live) in the end.


Posted by: Forbiddendonut at September 3, 2009 9:47 AM

+1 for nearly making me crap myself with La Buff.

Posted by: trippdup at September 3, 2009 9:54 AM

SEAN BEAN as Ned? Holy fuck-my-eye Jesus, someone give me a paper bag so I can stop hyperventilating. This is too good to be true.

Hey, let Shia be The Hound. He only gets to be a disfigured evil shit anyway. Although it would be very hard to find the kid who played Stanley Yelnats to be much of a menacing figure....

Posted by: Wednesday at September 3, 2009 10:01 AM

not seeing Headly as Cersei. She's supposed to be blindingly hot and pure seduction, and that's doesn't seem likely with Lena there. Maybe she was being reined in on TSCC, but she spent the whole series looking like she was irritated at there being a long wait for the bathroom.

Posted by: ponch at September 3, 2009 11:02 AM

janetfaust you're not alone. I thought Lena was very good as Sarah Connor. I'm still pissed T:TSCC was canceled.

I've never heard of A song of Fire and Ice but I definitely plan to check it out.

Posted by: John W at September 3, 2009 12:14 PM

Every time someone new says that they haven't heard of A Song of Ice and Fire, I get happy in my happy place. New blood! New blood!

Posted by: Snath at September 3, 2009 5:14 PM

Eat shit

Posted by: Jack Random at September 4, 2009 5:53 AM

leave any for us, Jack?

Holy fucking shitballs!! In my wildest fantasies I had not imagined that anyone would make Martin's books.

Speechless. sorta.

Great, now whenever I'm reading the books, Sandor is going to be saying "Yarp" in my head.

Maybe his new phrase will be "Hodor"?

Sean Bean as Eddard?! Awesomeness incarnate! I loved his character so much I named my Tribes toon Eddard.

Stephenson as Sandor sounds good to me. But who will play "The Mountain That Rides"?

Holy f-ing shitballs

Posted by: protoguy at September 4, 2009 8:13 AM

Jennifer Ehle = the Definitive Elizabeth Bennet in the Definitive Pride & prejudice adaptation, definitely filmed a long time ago though so it's highly unlikely that she'll do the débutante thing again in ASOI&F.

Sean Bean = Yum.

And Lena Headey can do no wrong ever since she played florist in "Imagine me & you". The film was beyond weak but she was, well, simply lovable.

Posted by: tanas at September 4, 2009 5:38 PM

Thank god. I read that Shia bs and my first reaction was "WHAT!?!?! WHAT THE FUCK!"

That was not cool. Bad SLW

Posted by: Julian at September 5, 2009 11:51 AM


















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