Kurt Sutter to the Parents Television Council President: 'You're a Pathetic F**king Douchebag and I Bet Your Own Kids Hate You'
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Kurt Sutter to the Parents Television Council President: 'You’re a Pathetic F**king Douchebag and I Bet Your Own Kids Hate You'

By Dustin Rowles | Trade News | September 24, 2013 | Comments ()


For those of you who don’t watch Sons of Anarchy, the premiere this year featured (spoiler) a school shooting, which — for Kurt Sutter, anyway — was in its own way, tasteful. The violence took place off screen. In fact, if anyone was going to take issue with the premiere episode, I’d have thought it would be with the prison rape of Sutter’s character, Otto, or the fact that Tig ended up killing a man by drowning him in a bathtub full of urine, and then peeing on him.

The school shooting seemed kind of tame, by comparison. At any rate, right-wing nutter and head of the Parents’ Television Council, Brent Bozell, naturally took issue.

After the Newtown school shooting, commentators on the Left expressed outrage that gun-rights groups were exploiting the attack to build membership in the wake of all the liberal demands for a federal crackdown on gun owners. Nine months later, they’re curiously silent as Rupert Murdoch’s cable network FX milks a fictional Catholic school shooting for commercial gain.

Bozell also complained that innocent children watch Sons of Anarchy, which doesn’t really seem like an innocent child’s cup of tea. I mean, “Phineas and Ferb at 4 in the afternoon, or Sons of Anarchy well after my bedtime?” If a kid is up late watching Sons of Anarchy, there’s probably other problems in that household worse than the kid seeing an off-screen school shooting, like the kid seeing Otta Delaney get anally raped in his prison cell, or missing school the next morning because he overslept.

Whatevs. Kurt Sutter took to his blog to respond:

Yes, I often make a fool of myself, that’s the risk one takes for being outspoken and passionate about one’s creative freedom. And no, I don’t think everyone I meet is an idiot, that wouldn’t make sense. I do however think you are an idiot and your not-for-progress organization, idiotic

Anyone with half-a-cup of brain cells can filter out the noise of your conservative bellowing and hear the truth - it’s all about your own political agenda. You are desperately trying to create a lobby that matters. But you cannot. And it fucking kills you that after all these years, you and your hate club are still flaccid and impotent. And the reasons, sir, are quite obvious. You are not very bright, your message is archaic and loving parents can innately sense that the PTC has no heart and no real interest in the betterment of children.

You reek of McCarthyism and holy water. And right-minded folks can smell you coming a mile away …

And just so you have something to quote from this, to work up the four other members, tell them that the tattoo-covered, liberal freak who writes that baby-killing, urine dunking show, said this: “You’re a pathetic fucking douchebag and I bet your own kids fucking hate you

He’s such a wordsmith, that Sutter.

(Source: WhoSay via Wonkette)

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  • e jerry powell

    I could have said it more diplomatically, but that would have blunted the impact.

  • Salad_Is_Murder

    Today it seems that the alter-ego of Captain Obvious has revealed himself to the public, ladies and gentleman, and his name is E. Jerry Powell.

  • e jerry powell

    And your point?

    Obvious or not, I get to speak for myself, so I'd invite you to take a long walk on a short pier.

  • Salad_Is_Murder

    Incidentally, when you chose to 'speak for yourself' you said nothing; good job, we're all proud of you.

    I'll take your invitation because I'm an excellent swimmer while all you've got is the comic wit of a bazooka joe bubble gum wrapper.

  • e jerry powell

    Whatevs. Haters gon' hate.

    You do you, boo.

  • Jo 'Mama' Besser

    Shit. Something's hanging down on the boneyard tree.

  • blacksred

    All I have to add is that the guy said there was vinegar in the pee tub too.

  • As a (mostly) conservative, every so often you run across these clowns(and I'm sure you have them on the left as well)where you cringe every time you see their name in print because you know it's going to be something stupid and pointless. The PTC are the very epitome of 'stop helping me.'

  • Dave Dorris

    I think it's safe to say that although there may be a couple of loose cannons on the liberal side they're largely irrelevant. You've got to deal with people (a lot of them) doing things like qualifying and quantifying rape, for God's sake. You've got members of the House Science committee who HATE SCIENCE.

    They've co-opted the term "conservative". They're not.

  • John W

    Never get into an argument with someone who writes for a living.

  • Jiffylush

    At first I was wondering why he responded at all, and as I started reading his reply I thought he shouldn't have called him an idiot, but then I read the whole thing and it was beautiful. I want to get it as a tattoo so I can drink children and shoot pee at school or something.

  • Sirilicious

    I think TV (and film) is an excellent instrument to explore school shootings. I think it COULD work very well in the SOA setting. It could make people think about it in ways they might not have before. I think that Kurt often lets his emotions regrettably get in the way of offering an argument that LOTS of people agree with, by phrasing it so that most dismiss it.

    I also think there is nothing Kurt won't do to make his character Otto get fucked literally and figuratively more as the seasons progress. :D
    There is nothing funny about prison rape, but knowing Kurt wrote this himself, made me laugh when i saw it. Sutter/Sucker for punishment, that man is.

  • Mohammed Al Qemzi

    Such eloquence *wipes tear*

  • Jo 'Mama' Besser

    Cute kid! :)

  • Mohammed Al Qemzi

    Thanks! :)

  • Dave Dorris

    Hm. How long after Sandy Hook did the NRA start pushing for arming teachers and administrators? And scaring it's members into arming up and stocking up on ammo? No "commercial gain" there though, right?

    Every time these dickwads open their mouths I wish there really was a Hell.

  • phofascinating

    Back in April Adolphus A. Busch IV, the heir to Anheuser-Busch, resigned his lifetime NRA membership saying: "The NRA appears to have evolved into the lobby for gun and ammunition manufacturers instead of gun owners."

    So I'd say you're spot on.

  • GDI

    I abhor the way that gun control has been presented, legislated, and enforced (it's basically been a fruitless endeavor, much like the war of drugs is impacting the drug trade; much like prohibition), but what the NRA and weapon and ammo manufactures typically do post-mass shooting disgusts me. They prey on the fear that their consumers will feel from alleged (or real) restrictions from the Fed.

    Yes, I know that I should feel bad about the victims of mass shooting(s). But you are just as likely to perish in a terrorist attack as you are in a mass shooting. They happened to be victims of incredible misfortune and elements that could not be controlled; wrong place, wrong time. I'm more sickened by the media (both left and right) manipulating said tragic events for their personal agendas, be it monetary or political. Let the dead rest, god damn it.

    Ultimately, we should not be trying to legislate or manipulate elements that are far beyond human control (at the moment), at least until we have full and complete understanding of every consequence, every action and reaction. It may be impossible to us simpletons, but what may the future bring? Perhaps they will see this current plague of firearm violence (suicide and homicide) as nothing more than a benign skin rash (hopefully not due to some sort apocalyptic event that overshadows it).

    I'm trying to be as apolitical about this as possible. It's not as simple as left vs. right, democrat vs. republican. If that's your perspective, trying to comprehend, and then provide input for, a complex, multifaceted social issue may be beyond your wheelhouse.

    I forgot where I was for a second there.
    Go Sutter! Tell that self-righteous douchebag to go suck it. By being a self-righteous douchebag.

    I don't mind the hypocrisy, because at least he's our self-righteous douchebag.

    Gotta get back to watching dat SOA.

  • BlackRabbit

    I'm sorry, I'd like some clarification of your points here."Elements that could not be controlled"? Well, that's just tough titty for the parents, I guess. People have been killing each other, many times for no good goddam reason, for all of history and that's not gonna end anytime soon. Hell, there's no real way to stop it and never will be, so I guess you're actually right on that level. Why bother trying to do anything?

    I don't care about if it's far beyond human control if it saves kids from getting shot. If that's "manipulating tragic events" then do it. "The media (both left and right) manipulating said tragic events for their personal agendas" is pretty much every government ever. Again, not something that can be stopped, only channeled, like a mighty river made of bullshit and money.

    Perhaps I'm too emotional here to respond to your post properly.

  • Jo 'Mama' Besser

    I'm being sincere here: I think the episode of Sunny that aired a couple of weeks ago called 'Gun Fever Too: Still Hot' presented this issue pretty danged well.

  • GDI

    Another Gun Fever? Hell yeah!

  • Jo 'Mama' Besser

    It's a great episode, watch it now.

  • Dave Dorris

    I fully agree that it's a complex issue that requires thoughtful study. Guess who's preventing that? Yep.

    Also in problem-solving, before you can correct the problem you have to contain it. You have to stop the immediate danger before you can prevent it's recurrence. Guess who's preventing that?

    There is no equivalency here.

  • GDI

    I'm not necessarily siding with the NRA. I do agree with your first post; I just don't agree with placing blame on a single actor or organization, when there are many others abound.

    How do we contain something like roughly twice as many firearm suicides over homicides on an annual basis in recent years (probably a trend that's being going on for decades, but I don't have the numbers to back that up)?



    I'm irked at the media fixation on mass shootings rather than putting resources and legislation to study, confine and control "common" firearm suicides and homicides. But I guess res ipsa loquitur.

  • Dave Dorris

    The bellwether moments are things like Aurora and Sandy Hook. You're absolutely correct that the bigger issue is the other 10,000 deaths per year.
    But when the NRA and the Republican party says there's "no credible evidence" of a connection to gun ownership and gun deaths, it's largely because they've done everything in their power to prevent the issue from being studied.


    Sorry, I really don't want to get too "political". But while I realize there are many things about Dems and Republicans that are far too similar, the differences are getting people killed.

  • GDI

    Obama did order the CDC study, which came out somewhat inconclusive, if not slightly disappointing to proponents of gun control.
    It basically reiterates FBI studies on firearm suicides vs homicides, the minute number of accidental (read: negligent) discharges and mass shootings (causalities and incidents), not including that the frequency of the last 2 is actually going down. Also, violent media has no direct causation nor correlation with violent behavior.

    That is not to say that I think the NRA has lost it's way. Big time. But that's what happens when special interest groups seep their way into any organization.


    You'll have to go with the read only option, as a downloaded copy requires an account.

  • Rob

    This might be my favorite thing today.

  • dizzylucy

    Considering he's the leader of the Parents TELEVISION Council, you'd think he'd understand there's a difference between real life and fiction.

  • Ben

    Sutter isn't wrong and neither are you Dustin. If kids are up watching Sons of Anarchy then perhaps the parents have to be pulled in and given a stern talking to. It's time to quit blaming the outcome and start repairing the cause.

  • VonnegutSlut

    This is the shit that makes me insane: I have no problem with reasonable debate. A lively, logical discourse & its resulting compromises are the things upon which our country was built.

    That being said, Brent Bozell is about as reasonable & logical as a hooker with no holes.

    (See PTC, I can pull offensive & nonsensical rhetoric out of my ass, too. It ain't pretty, is it?)

  • Jo 'Mama' Besser

    What about erotic stomata?

  • Parker Jammstein

    You reek of McCarthyism and holy water

    That's just goddamn venomous

  • e jerry powell

    Given the amount of fecal matter we know is in holy water now, certainly appropriate.

  • Mrcreosote

    That is my favorite Yankee Candle.

  • zeke_the_pig

    I was just about to say: I'm so co-opting that

  • BigBlueKY

    I mean, Sons is on after MY bedtime.

  • Classic

    I know. Why the hell are kids staying up late to watch it. Also it's not a PG t.v. show at all.

  • Fredo

    Thing is, I can't disagree with Sutter over this. Brent Bozell is a douchenozzle who should go swimming in pee.

  • e jerry powell

    Rancid pee.

  • NateMan

    That was beautiful. I had to wipe away a tear.

  • Thanks to Kurt Sutter, I have immediately uploaded "not-for-progress" into my slang wagon to deploy when combating ideologues.

  • RilesSD

    Thanks to you, I've uploaded "slang wagon"

  • Bananapanda

    Not to be confused with Slag Wagon which is what the Gallagher brothers ride around in...

  • cicatricella

    oh, are they speaking to one another again?

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