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The Daily Trade Round-Up / Daniel Carlson

Trade News | July 6, 2007 | Comments (88)


I can think of quite a few HBO series I’d like to see adapted for the big screen: “Deadwood,” “Carnivale,” “The Wire.” But, believe it or not, “Sex and the City” doesn’t quite make the cut. I don’t share the fascination with and devotion for the show that many people have shown, including one of my former roommates, a polite young man who would come home from work and pour himself a glass of wine before slipping into a green silk kimono and popping in a disc of Carrie Bradshaw’s adventures (and that guy has since then (a) gotten married to (b) a girl). But I have seen enough of the show to know that the few moments of genuine conflict that arose were squandered by creator Darren Star’s equating of empowerment with the financial wherewithal to buy shoes and really ugly tops that somehow became fashionable simply by virtue of their unfashionability. (Not to mention an unbearable voice-over that followed a patter that was beyond simplistic, usually something along the lines of, “While I was doing something uptown, my friend was downtown doing something so similar-sounding yet different that the juxtaposition of the two would make for an ironic transition.”) The show is likeable, and light, and completely over and done, and I think we as a nation are ready to move on, which is probably why it was announced this week that New Line Cinema and HBO are partnering on a big-screen version of the show, with all four female leads — Sarah Jessica Parker, Kim Cattrall, Kristin Davis, and Cynthia Nixon — set to reprise their roles, with series exec producer Michael Patrick King coming aboard to write and direct. There’s no word yet on whether any of the male actors from the series have signed on or will sign on for supporting roles in the film, but unless Ian McShane strolls in and pistol-whips Kim Cattrall for being “ornery,” I’ll give the film a pass. But I’m sure my former roommate will be there, cabernet in hand. Godspeed.

Speaking of aging blondes: Cameron Diaz has been tapped to star in The Box, a horror flick from Richard Kelly, best known for helming the mind-bendingly awesome Donnie Darko. Sure, Diaz only has one good dramatic role under her belt — Being John Malkovich, not Gangs of New York — but I’ve got faith that Kelly can make a horror movie work. It doesn’t hurt that Kelly is adapting the script from Richard Matheson’s short story “Button, Button,” about a woman given a mysterious box (uh oh) by a mysterious stranger (come on), and it’s covered with mysterious buttons (seriously), and she’s warned not to push them or mysterious things will happen (yeah). The whole thing sounds like a decent set-up for some PG-13 scares: Diaz pushes a button, Drew Barrymore falls over and dies, repeat. Who wouldn’t watch that?

Finally this morning, something for the inner Matthew Broderick in all of us (the one from WarGames, not, well, everything else): The trailer for the upcoming documentary The King of Kong, about a pair of guys facing off over the world record for who can play the best game of old-school arcade Donkey Kong. These men, I hasten to point out, are fully grown, and while one looks pretty clean and respectable, the other one is rocking the kind of mullet that says “I either know nothing of social conventions or I simply refuse to care.” You’ll recognize him when he shows up. Director Seth Gordon has said in interviews that he’s been careful not to edit the film into unintentional humor, and that the personal lives of these men are presented with tact and grace; while this is probably true, the trailer skews decidedly toward mockery. The film’s done well at festivals, and has already been co-opted for adaptation as a feature, but I’ve got a feeling nothing can beat the sight of the actual guys pumping quarters into slots like their weird little lives depend on it. Take a gander:

Daniel Carlson is the managing editor of Pajiba and a low-level employee at a Hollywood industry magazine. You can visit his blog, Slowly Going Bald.


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Comments

You're dead on with the "Sex and the City" nonsense, but "The Box" sounds absolutely awful (Kelly or no Kelly) and there's nothing about that trailer which "skews decidedly toward mockery." So you're batting one for three this morning.

Posted by: PapaJohn at July 6, 2007 8:26 AM

a woman given a mysterious box (uh oh) by a mysterious stranger (come on), and it's covered with mysterious buttons (seriously), and she's warned not to push them or mysterious things will happen

So... Hellraiser 9, then. Awesome. Cameron Diaz is awful. Being John Malkovich barely makes up for the parade of shit that came before and after it.

And Sex and the City? Really? Really? Man, that's depressing.

Posted by: TK at July 6, 2007 8:26 AM

I have never understood the appeal of this show. And now so many years later the same four "Busted " looking women are coming to a movie house soon. I for one must pass.

Posted by: Nat Burns at July 6, 2007 8:33 AM

I can't believe they're making a movie out of "Button, Button"...the short story was adapted in '86 on the Twilight Zone.

Posted by: Melina at July 6, 2007 8:37 AM

They should make a movie of Arrested Development not Sex and the City!

Posted by: Erin at July 6, 2007 8:43 AM

You know one of your sitemates has already posted that trailer, right?

Posted by: Gitteau at July 6, 2007 8:51 AM

Cameron Diaz has been tapped to star in The Box

So she is doing porn now? Timberlake really wrecked her I guess.

Posted by: Brian at July 6, 2007 9:18 AM

[i]"While I was doing something uptown, my friend was downtown doing something so similar-sounding yet different that the juxtaposition of the two would make for an ironic transition."[/i]

It's amazing. I could actually imagine horse face reading those EXACT words as a V/O and it seems like it would fit into ANY episode.

My best friend is absolutely in love with this piece of shit and turns into a complete fem-bot when he talks about watching the show. Fuck this show. Fuck the writers. Fuck the directors. Fuck the women on it. Fuck them right in their ears. Oh wait! Wasn't that already a plot for an episode where one of the 'girls' (can 50 yr olds still be called girls?) just happened to end up fucking someone with an auditory canal penetration fetish?????? Because...you know...like, that's funny...an like, EVERYONE at some point has, like, one of [i]those[/i] relationships....especially in crazy new york!...do you like my shitty new dress?....giggle...

The bile in my mouth is never-ending whenever someone talks about this show. I hope Sarah Jessica Parker gets violated by an uncircumcised tiger.

Posted by: PissBoy at July 6, 2007 9:34 AM

"Speaking of aging blondes"

Damn. Maybe I'm taking this too personally because Cam and I were born within days of each other, but "aging" seems a bit much for a 34-year-old. I suppose that, theoretically, we're all aging.

Posted by: samantha t at July 6, 2007 9:56 AM

Before you write off the Box, the ending of the Button Button short story was one of those "Twilight Zone'-ish spine-tingling twists that I'll always remember.

Maybe now I've been Shymalayaned too much to not see the twist coming, but when I was 12 or so, man, it was awesome.

Posted by: mook at July 6, 2007 10:04 AM

As a 30-something female who once found Sex and the City amusing, I can say this show is not holding up well. At second glance the characters are really really annoying and privileged (and I went to prep school in NYC). The lack of financial woe in NYC is simply unrealistic and Mr. Big is a ridiculous fantasy...the bad boy made good a decade later.

I wish "The Box" were about Swearingen and his Indian in the Closet. Who's with me? Come on, Hang Dai!

Anyone notice how many Deadwood alums are in John for Cincinnati? (I have to keep going back to Imdb/HBO Deadwood pages to sort it out.) It's practically Deadwood at the Beach with dirty beachbums rather than dirty miners.

Posted by: Amanda47 at July 6, 2007 10:19 AM

I'm surprised nobody's tried to make any obvious 'dick in a box' jokes yet.

Posted by: minerva_smurf at July 6, 2007 10:39 AM

That trailer definitely leans towards "mockumentary".... unintentional or not, there was enough humor there to interest the snark in me. In the 80's my then-boyfriend and I leased video games, which were placed in bars, and we collected the quarters. Our apartment was the late night video arcade for all our friends... and donkey kong was King. Memories!

Posted by: nancy at July 6, 2007 10:56 AM

Oh, Amanda, Al and Chief Head-in-the-Box is definitely a movie I would see!!! God, I HATED those ridiculous SitC twats when they were on before, lousing up the network that brought us Tony Soprano, Al Swearingen, Seth Bullock, the Fishters and Keith "big black sex cop" Charles. I would love to see any of those turned into a movie, but not this tripe.

As for "the Box" yeah, I was waiting for the "dick in a box" jokes, too, but PissBoy really summed up my feelings, not only about my pretty Pony Parker, but Cameron wrinkle-up-my-nose-cause-its-cute-and-I-can't-act Diaz as well.

God, I need a vacation....

Posted by: dammitjanet at July 6, 2007 10:57 AM

I cannot stand Sex and the City. It's a show about 4 almost-middle age women who are holding on to their twenties for dear life, and have no real jobs to speak of yet somehow can afford all-designer wardrobes and penthouse apartments. They also have nothing better to do than have lots of sex with lots of ugly men then talk about said sex at trendy restaurants...one of them usually wearing a belly shirt of some kind.

So yeah...pass.

Posted by: botoxinthecity at July 6, 2007 11:02 AM

If you need further proof that there MUST be something wrong with those who impose "taste" in this country, you need go no farther than seeing how Sarah Jessica Parker was rammed down our throats as a "fashionista" (whatever the hell that is) as well as the rest of these hags. Along with this immoral series.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 6, 2007 11:09 AM

A woman is given a "box" and warned not to "play with it"? Come on, we all know the ladies love some good box-play. I can barely get through the day without beating the bishop and they want us to believe that a woman can possibly resist messing with something that could maybe contain chocolate or clothes? Shenanigans, I say!!

Posted by: Manny at July 6, 2007 11:20 AM

What bothered me the most about Sex and the City wasn't the show itself--it was the millions of chicks who just desperately tried to identify with the women on the show. "I'm a Carrie because I like clothes!" "I'm a Samantha because I like sex!" "I'm a whatever-that-brunette's-name-was because I'm a total prude!" Sadly, none of my fellow females wanted to be the redhead, since, y'know, she was kinda "butch", as one of my suitemates pointed out in college.

Posted by: em at July 6, 2007 11:20 AM

Why? There is nothing they could say or do on the big screen that a made for HBO movie would not also allow. This is a waste screen space. And molecules.

Cammy should go away. Please? She adds nothing, nothing at all, to any movie she is in except an overwhelming sense of her own self-absorption. Her presence creates a sucking black hole into which the film disappears. She is an utter moron, and I have heard from various sources that she is also a mean-spirited, spoiled bitch. Why do people continue to work with her? HUH? TELL ME!

Posted by: Seranade at July 6, 2007 11:22 AM

"Speaking of aging blondes"

I thought that was a tad misogynous myself. I'm not surprised if Hollywood considers a 34 year-old woman over-the-hill because it's a town full of douchebags, but I expected better from Pajiba.

At the same time, I have no problem with you recognizing "Sex in the City" for what it is: tired, shallow, unlikeable female stereotypes that fall flat regardless of whether the characters are 18 or 80.

Posted by: Regan at July 6, 2007 11:23 AM

I think Gwyneth Paltrow's head is in the box.

Posted by: Great Mango at July 6, 2007 11:35 AM

Amanda - Watch any 2 HBO dramas and the same people keep showing up, sometimes in very different roles. Sopranos, OZ, The Wire, The Corner, Carnivale and Deadwood all had the same people popping up. SOme would get a small role in one show that seemd to turn into a recurring role in another 2 years later.

Plus several from Deadwood have made it to Lost as well, making your miners at the Beach theory all the more correct.

Posted by: Brian at July 6, 2007 11:51 AM

"While I was doing something uptown, my friend was downtown doing something so similar-sounding yet different that the juxtaposition of the two would make for an ironic transition."

Hee hee! You totally nailed it, Dan. But you forgot about Carrie's winky-wink puns.

Tiger rape, PissBoy? That's vile.

mook, "Button, Button" was made into a Twilight Zone episode in 1986. I haven't seen it, though, or any of the Twilight Zones from the 80s. Though I did see the John Lithgow movie.

minerva, I thought that, too. If you come up with a good one involving Justin, Cameron, and maybe Jimmy Fallon, I'll laugh.

Manny, my box doesn't contain chocolate or clothes. But it is pretty nice.

em, I'm totally Miranda, and I'm proud of that. She's not butch. She's...strong. And smart. And a partner in her law firm!

samantha and regan, what you said. Only in Hollywood's addled mind could a vibrant 34-year-old woman be considered "aging."

Posted by: Bianca Reagan at July 6, 2007 11:51 AM

I loved SatC when it started because it seemed like a interesting premise, but after the second season, I said the hell with it. Like so many shows that gain popularity, Sex and the City became a parody of itself. The girls were no longer "single gals in the city" but became downright slutty and elitist. And was it just me, or did every other sentence from Carrie say "I couldn't help but wonder..." Ugh. Just shut the f*** up.

What was really disappointing was that it stopped being about relationships, and turned into a show about Manolo Blahniks, Carrie's never-ending ridiculous puns, with an ode to the greatness of New York thrown in every few minutes. Truly, no disrespect to New York or anyone who lives there, but we get it; they loved the city. Move on.

I thought the show ended on a decent note, and at just the right time. I honestly didn't see any other direction where the characters could go; I mean they tried everything: bi-sexuality, younger men, interracial dating, dwarves, alcoholics, insecure men, and probably a few I'm forgetting. When the end came, the characters had finally settled down, and that was fine. Why dredge it up again?

Posted by: Brie at July 6, 2007 12:18 PM

I will stand up and proudly say that I did and still do love Sex and the City. Feel free to revoke my indie cred. But I'm also not trying to derive the meaning of like from it. It's fluff, plain and simple. I watch it like my mom used to watch old reruns of I Love Lucy . . . an enjoyable escape, like comfort food, that you don't take seriously.

But even I am rolling my eyes at the movie version. It's sad and a desperate attempt to make money off of a very dead horse. Let it go, HBO.

Spend the money and give us a decent fucking closure for Deadwood.

Posted by: savoyeve at July 6, 2007 12:21 PM

Cameron Diaz is a stain. Kill her.

I am viciously excited for this Donkey Movie. Holy crap that is outstanding!

Sex and the City is stupid. Kill them too.

Posted by: David at July 6, 2007 12:45 PM

I thought that was a tad misogynous myself.

Normally I would agree with you and the other folks who've expressed a similar opinion; but in this case, we're talking about Cameron Diaz, and frankly, I'm ASTONISHED to read that she's only 34 years old. That's one hard-ridden 34, people--she looks like jerky.

Also, just because I cannot continue to exist without pointing this out: the word you were trying for is misogynistic.

Posted by: Jerce at July 6, 2007 12:48 PM

I don't really care for Sex and the City either, although once in awhile it's ok for some mindless fluff. What I don't like is how it's been referred to as some sexually revolutionary, society-changing show. To me, it seems like the only woman who actually really enjoys sex is Samantha, but she's portrayed as a totally unrealistic cartoon character. The other women will try something out of their comfort zone, but they never enjoy it. It always backfires on them. I remember the "prude" Charlotte wanted to have a 3-way, but of course, it didn't work out and she went back to her vanilla sex.

I also think it's ridiculous how they "have sex like men." Women don't like sex? Women never like NSA sex? What the hell? This show is so sexist.

And I'm 19, a size two, and even I don't walk around in belly shirts. They're never a good look, especially on middle aged women.

Posted by: Brianne at July 6, 2007 1:02 PM

Savoyeve, I agree 100% (well, except the Deadwood part; I can't say for sure that I want a movie because I never saw the show...).

Can't we just take the show at face value? Laugh at Carrie's absurd outfits and "fashinista" status, rather than taking it as an affront? It's certainly not the only show that stretches the reality of life in NY (hello, Friends??), and while their sex lives may be friskier than most, isn't calling it an "immoral series" just a little judgemental? Holy catty-fest, people!

And come on, give Cameron a break, what has she ever done to all of you? Don't say "act"--if you don't like her, don't watch her. Not speaking as a fan, particularly; just as a pacifist. If you must be bothered by someone, save your rage for idiot starletards whose adventures in drunk driving only add to their fame.

Posted by: MO at July 6, 2007 1:03 PM

misogynistic.

Not to mention I'd say this is a misuse of the word in the first place. Misogynistic means a hatred or loathing of women. It's frequently used incorrectly. I'd hardly saying that she looks old is an example of misogyny. And seriously - there ain't a lot of tread left on those tires.

Posted by: TK at July 6, 2007 1:05 PM

I hope Sarah Jessica Parker gets violated by an uncircumcised tiger.

Is that a Wicked reference?

Posted by: Nika at July 6, 2007 1:07 PM

"Also, just because I cannot continue to exist without pointing this out: the word you were trying for is misogynistic."

You can use either as an adjective. I looked it up. I hate to admit that I consulted a dictionary before posting in a comments thread, but I did.

Posted by: Regan at July 6, 2007 1:07 PM

amen, MO.

Never saw what was so great about SatC cuz I didn't have cable, or that kind of disposable cash, so it was hard to relate.

But I really don't see where all the hate is coming from for Cam-cam. I liked her in There's Something About Mary, I enjoyed Charlie's Angels (women kicking ass and looking good doing it... it's fantasy, but it's MY kind of fantasy)...
c'mon, at least she's not flashing her hoo-ha and hitting trees w/ cars.

Posted by: Stella at July 6, 2007 1:14 PM

c'mon, at least she's not flashing her hoo-ha and hitting trees w/ cars.

Have our standards fallen so low?

I will give you Something About Mary, though. And Charlie's Angels is a guilty pleasure that's so guilty I should be wearing handcuffs when it comes on.

Wow, that *really* came out poorly.

Posted by: TK at July 6, 2007 1:33 PM

My problem with SATC is not so much the show, but the women who take it seriously. Women who believe that one should be a self -centered bitch whos main interest and hobby is fashion and cant hold on to a relationship. The show can be amusing, but trying to emulate the likes of carrie bradshaw is just ridiculous.

Posted by: dinka at July 6, 2007 1:39 PM

I'll risk being laughed at here and say that I love Sex and the City, mostly because it's hilarious. All the critisisms here are completely true, but even after all of that there are things to love about the show.

The worst thing though is how Sarah Jessica Parker is constantly getting men way out of her league and being referred to as the hot one when in fact she is hard to look at, not to mention listen to.

Posted by: Meredith at July 6, 2007 1:46 PM

I hope Sarah Jessica Parker gets violated by an uncircumcised tiger.

I also wondered if the above was a Wicked reference. On a relatively unrelated note, if a movie version of Wicked is made and actually adheres Gregory McGuire's original story, I think SJP would be a perfect choice for Galinda. (The ooey gooey musical version makes me angry on all sorts of levels.)

Posted by: Constance at July 6, 2007 1:47 PM

From now on, I'm going to drop the line "No matter what I say, it draws controversy -- sort of like the abortion issue" into conversations.

Also, I love you like a brother, but your distaste for "Sex and the City" pains me. I blame your Ayn Rand-loving ex-roommate for this.

Posted by: Sarah at July 6, 2007 1:54 PM

You know, Matthew Broderick did do at least one great, nay classic, film since Wargames.

Can anyone name it?

Bueller? Bueller?

Posted by: bartap at July 6, 2007 2:00 PM

I really like SatC. There, I said it. It's not MEANT to be deep, obviously, and even if there's a movie about it, who cares? It was a FICTIONAL show with FICTIONAL characters, and wait, oh yeah! The movie would be along those lines too. And if it boosted SJP to ridiculous heights, then all the more power to her. Y'all are so crabby.

I couldn't help but wonder, did you all have an itch in your Pajiba?

Posted by: boo at July 6, 2007 2:04 PM

Folks, first of all it's Sex AND The City

Yes, it's a little dated now, but that's because it was so of-the-moment at the time

that show gave me so much pleasure when it first aired, and i still enjoy the reruns

how can you not love "Alrighty Then" Trey?

I will always stand up for SATC

the women ARE beautiful, with possible exception of Parker, and hooray for them not being generic twentysomething hotties and still attracting viewers

Posted by: Plobes at July 6, 2007 2:20 PM

I have a sandy Pajiba.

Posted by: Manny at July 6, 2007 2:21 PM

And now for something completely different, not to mention totally unrelated to today's column.

Got something I think the Pajibans can help me with here. I was informed this morning I'm losing my crap part-time job at the end of July, because I'm not Chinese needing H1B sponsorship.

The question is:

Who blows up more shit, John McClane or the giant alien robots?

Posted by: bjs1109 at July 6, 2007 2:21 PM

"I hate Sex and the City!"
"I don't hate the show, I hate the dumb women who liked it and saw Carrie Bradshaw as a role model!"

Okay, I lived in a dorm for most of the time Sex and the City was on; I know a lot of girls who really loved the show, but I don't know anyone who wanted to be like Carrie Bradshaw. We would watch, we would laugh, we would question Carrie's bizarre sartorial choices, someone would eventually cock their head and say "wow, Carrie is a really bad writer."

(Also, they all totally had jobs! Miranda was a lawyer, Samantha was a PR lady, Charlotte worked in an art gallery (until she married Special Agent Dale Cooper); I'm not really sure how Carrie paid for her apartment, but I don't know how Rachel and Monica did either.)

Re: Cameron Diaz -- it might not be misogynist to point out someone's looking old, but there is no way a 34-year-old male actor would get referred like some people are talking about her. (Also, she was the good part of Vanilla Sky.)

Posted by: Brenda at July 6, 2007 2:22 PM

there was a good part to vanilla sky?

Posted by: tharine at July 6, 2007 2:54 PM

the women ARE beautiful, with possible exception of Parker, and hooray for them not being generic twentysomething hotties and still attracting viewers

Posted by: Plobes at July 6, 2007 2:20 PM

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Well they are beautiful TO YOU. That Davis chick is MAYBE, *ok* at best, out of that freakshow.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 6, 2007 3:09 PM

COMPLETELY off topic... I want to see a review of "License to Wed." I mean, it looks godawful, thus all the more reason to look forward to seeing it savaged.

On the other hand, there is something... sadistic... about hoping for reviews of bad movies. This isn't sympathy for the movies or the people associated with them - fuck those assholes. This is sympathy for all you Pajiba Peoples. You all seem like cool, funny people, and you've been nice to me in particular on at least one occasion in the past. So I feel a little bad in actually DESIRING that you subject yourselves to horribly bad movies just for my enjoyment.

Ah, fuck it.

It's what y'all do.

Here you are, Landon. -- DR

Posted by: Landon at July 6, 2007 3:09 PM

tharine totally beat me to it on Vanilla Sky.

Posted by: TK at July 6, 2007 3:12 PM

Brenda - Carrie had a rent controlled apartment (with a waaaaaaaaay below market rate lease) that went CO-OP. She bought it with the furniture guy then bought it off him (after cheating on him) by hocking Charlotte's Tiffany ring.

I'll now turn in my balls for knowing all that.

Posted by: Brian at July 6, 2007 3:43 PM

nice, im lookin forward to it

Posted by: max at July 6, 2007 3:45 PM

The spanish version of Vanilla Sky was good. Don't think Miss Diaz was in it though

Posted by: Brian at July 6, 2007 3:45 PM

Hey Barbado Slim, you tellin me you'd kick Kim Cattrall outta bed?

maybe she's "old" but she has an incredible bod, of course, in my opinion

Posted by: Plobes at July 6, 2007 3:52 PM

I misread the last paragraph and thought the movie was called "The King of P-o-n-g" and the two nerds played the old video game P-o-n-g.

Posted by: BWeaves at July 6, 2007 3:52 PM

Manny, never, EVER give us a status report on your Pajiba again.

Next, I also don't get the venom, mostly becasue I simply did not watch the show. I never believed for one second I was going to be able to enjoy it, so I simply ignored it. If some jackass still thinks he can beat that dead horse (no, NOT SJP), then let them go right ahead and fall on their face. Also, while Kristin Davis is just too darn cute, Kim Catrall scares the hell out of me now. She looks like she is going to rip my head off mid-coitus and drink the blood out of my spurting neck. I cannot explain why that still turns me on though.

Cameron Diaz. No matter what, I cannot seem to dislike her. I just can't. I cannot see where she could have earned such emnity. Of course, considering I have only seen three movies with her in it, and they weren't exactly Oscar Wilde, my opinion of her acting abilities is a bit stifled. As far as her age, she looks okay, sometimes downright sexy, but she is obviously too damn skinny. What looks like wrinkles actually seem to be flaps of excess skin. Instead of getting it tucked, she needs to fucking EAT. Get curves the natural way, dammit.

Posted by: Vermillion at July 6, 2007 4:03 PM

Brian, he dump her bc she didnt wanna get married.

So that means you only have to turn in one ball!!

Posted by: NDR at July 6, 2007 4:25 PM

"the mind-bendingly awesome Donnie Darko"

Oh Pajiba, how I'd love to read that review here...Pretty please Daniel.

Posted by: Gaby at July 6, 2007 4:35 PM

Vermillion, in a bizarre coincidence, Kim Cattrall was in some god-awful movie called Modern Vampires (please don't laugh too hard at me for knowing this) where she does exactly what you feared: she turns into a hideous blood sucking creature right after coitus. It was a campy piece of shit movie, yet I remember that.

Posted by: Brie at July 6, 2007 4:50 PM

Hey Barbado Slim, you tellin me you'd kick Kim Cattrall outta bed?

maybe she's "old" but she has an incredible bod, of course, in my opinion

Posted by: Plobes at July 6, 2007 3:52 PM

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1. Don't misunderstand me I've got NOTHING against age, I love me some mature bootay. it's just that these chicks just plain don't do it for me. At least not the way they were portraying their characters. Sorry.

2. As for kicking Kim out of bed, I'd have to say that if she was wearing her Starfleet costume, I. WOULD. NOT.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 6, 2007 5:00 PM

yeah, boo!!

i couldn't help but wonder, could i have said it any better?


(no) ;)

Posted by: nicole at July 6, 2007 5:00 PM

>>>I hope Sarah Jessica Parker gets violated by an uncircumcised tiger.

Maybe I'm missing something here--but aren't tigers generally uncircumcised? Is there suddenly someone going around circumcising tigers? That seems like it would be a very odd pursuit.

Posted by: Jenna at July 6, 2007 5:25 PM

one of the best 'carrie questions' was: "why do we keep shoulding all over ourselves?"

it's impossible to hate on that one.

anyone else watch the PG-rated SatC cable reruns when daily show and colbert are on vacation? it's like i'm on vacation then, too. mentally.

Posted by: nicole at July 6, 2007 5:45 PM

"there was something good about Vanilla Sky?"

Ah come one people, the beautiful homage to Dylan's The Freewheelin' !!!

Yeah, it was a 60 second screen shot, but this girl (or old hag actually based on my age and this comment thread) watched it twice on DVD just to see that shot again.

Posted by: PaddyDog at July 6, 2007 5:57 PM

SATC: I will forever loathe that show for unleashing that abomination of all fashion statements, the visible non-matching bra with a backless top.

::shudder::

Posted by: ciji at July 6, 2007 9:14 PM


But I like it that Manny can be so honest about sand. It is good to know that we all have problem . . . or two.

Posted by: Sandor at July 6, 2007 9:20 PM

All ye SATC haytaz have either:

A. Only seen a few, atypically awful episodes of the show or none at all
B. no sense of humor
C. fat
D. anti-semitism
E.poverty
F. erectile dysfunction

:)


as for camlet d, i thought her mao bag was way cute and stylin'

Posted by: Plobes at July 6, 2007 9:47 PM

Plobes, if that had made any sense whatsoever, I might actually be offended.

Posted by: TK at July 6, 2007 10:00 PM

Plobes, if that had made any sense whatsoever, I might actually be offended.

Ha ha ha!

I have fat and poverty, and possibly erectile dysfunction since I don't have a wang. But I'm not a SATC hayta. I'm a SATC luva. What does that mean?

Posted by: Bianca Reagan at July 6, 2007 10:30 PM

bianca,

that means you are AWESOME!


i can has fat, poverty and cheezburger?

Posted by: Plobes at July 6, 2007 11:01 PM

At Brenda, I dont repremand people for likeing the show, and I am glad you havent met the women I have met that attempt to emulate Carrie.

Posted by: dinka at July 6, 2007 11:27 PM

From the bits that I saw of the show, the biggest problem for me was the friendships between the women didn't seem very developed. GOLDEN GIRLS had them beat on that. The other three characters were just Carrie acolytes. I haven't seen that many episodes, but it was hard to see why any of the three other women would talk to each other. It was either Super Special Girl Talk With Super Special Carrie, or Time To Tolerate Those Other Slags She Deigns To Know. What defined the relationship between the brunette and the redhead? Nothing, they just need the visual symmetry.

Posted by: M at July 7, 2007 12:09 AM

SATC is a shallow POS, no doubt.

But the reason I pop it in whenever I am PMSing hardcore is because paired with a box of chocolate and limitless alcohol, it reminds me of how much I love my friends, how they are there for me whenever I need to obsess about any little thing, and how much I'd love to have brunch with them every other day with them if I could.

Ultimately the show is about friendship and I think that's what women envy about Carrie, more than the sex and shoes. Everyone takes something different and yes it is over-rated, but so is everything else in pop culture. It's a guilty pleasure just like anything else. But not quite as shallow as you portrayed it this time.

Posted by: eliza at July 7, 2007 1:09 AM

My students read "Button, Button" every year and love it. Before we begin, I present them with the same question with which the protagonist is presented: "Would you accept a large sum of money in exchange for pushing a button that would kill a stranger?" It's a bit frightening how many 15-16 year olds say, "Hell yeah!" It affords me the chance to get a little deeper than textbooks and standardized tests allow--what is the value of a human life?

The end of the story freaks them out. Upon finishing it, we discuss their answers again... and just "how well" they know the people in their lives.

Posted by: SuperEdna at July 7, 2007 2:37 AM

Did you guys have to watch all 94 episodes of Sex and the City to develop such a refined critique? I think I saw about two episodes of I Love Lucy before I realized that Lucy was really annoying, and then I stopped watching.

Oh, and by the way, I feel obligated to recycle my previous attempt to give props to Cameron Diaz (it's Live Earth day, after all) when she deserves them - kudos for those occasions when she plays against type (Very Bad Things, Being John Malkovich), when she lampoons her own media-enhanced bimbo image (There's Something About Mary, Charlie's Angels), and when she's just plain nuts (A Life Less Ordinary). I happen to think she's pretty damn attractive, not just in that not-surgically-enhanced pinup kind of way, but especially when she's working with a director who knows when to tone down the 1,000 watt smile and let her act and react to the other estimable actors around her (In Her Shoes).

Posted by: Sanity Clause at July 7, 2007 10:45 AM

Rather than commenting on the aging of middle aged actresses, I want to say that I still miss Carnivale. I think the cancelation of that show was one of HBO's biggest mistakes. The greatest mistake being the ending to Sopranos (I am still fucking upset, and I don't cre who knows it). Carnivale was one of their more inventive shows with a unique premise. I would definitely watch a Carnivale movie or even a miniseries.

Posted by: Daisy at July 7, 2007 12:56 PM

SuperEdna, did you see the 80s Twilight Zone adaptation of the short story "Button, Button"? It puts a completely different spin on the twist ending that you might find equally discussion-worthy for your students.

Posted by: Rob at July 8, 2007 6:19 AM

Props to Eliza for nicely summing up my own slightly guilty love-affair with Sex & The City.

(Full Disclosure: I once had a drunken SATC Which One Are You conversation with a few of my girls. It was mostly harmless fun. I promise...)

Posted by: Zoey at July 8, 2007 2:57 PM

Never watched SaTC, so can't say I care one way or another about the movie.

As for Cameron Diaz, I don't think much of her as an actress, and she looks older than her 34 years, unfortunately, and not in a good way. But since the theme seems to be taking stabs at aging blondes, I must say that Brad Pitt has been looking rough for a while now. Of course, I never found him attractive like 95% of women I've come across, so it could be bias. Either way, dude is not aging well.

Posted by: Daphne at July 8, 2007 5:00 PM

I get the SatC hate...and love. I am a guilty devourer of reruns and the occasional Blockbuster rental, and I've come to the following conclusions: Carrie has no taste in clothing, Carrie is neurotic and Big should never have come ten feet within her, and the friends are all painted so hazily we can never relate to them except through Carrie's eyes. I guess that last observation is the reason why SatC is so weak: the other characters don't really have a chance to develop (Miranda was always my favorite).

Conclusion? Guilty pleasure, not worth a movie.

Posted by: bonnie at July 8, 2007 10:47 PM

Actually "aging blonde" Cam Diaz has another good dramatic role, as Toni Colette's irresponsible sister in "In Her Shoes".

As to TV shows I'd rather see on the big screen, since ABC cancelled Shaun Cassidy's ambitious evolution drama "Invasion", those of us who enjoyed the show would love to see at least a tie-up of the threads left dangling. I also wouldn't mind it if another X-Files flick came out: God knows the careers of its two stars could use the boost.

Posted by: Matt at July 9, 2007 12:38 AM

Wow, lots of extreme opinions about Sex and the City. I'm guessing most of the people who hate it are male, and that's not surprising: the show was about women and aimed at women - it was never designed to be liked by men - you are not the target audience. (I don't watch war-themed shows like Band of Brothers but I don't knock them - they're just not for me. To each their own.)

I thought SaTC was great fun to watch, but I don't think a movie is necessary - the final episode wrapped it all up nicely.

And what's with 'tude toward Sarah Jessica? She's not conventionally pretty, but that's part of her appeal.

Posted by: DG at July 9, 2007 3:00 AM

"...the show was about women and aimed at women...."


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Psssst, I'll let you in on a little secret, the show was really about gay men. That was the concept, gay men played by straight women.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 9, 2007 9:01 AM

Psssst, I'll let you in on a little secret, the show was really about gay men. That was the concept, gay men played by straight women.

BarbadoSlim, please elaborate on this theory - sounds fascinating.

Posted by: Daphne at July 9, 2007 11:26 AM

Wasn't the show's creator a gay man? Or was it the writers?

Posted by: Brie at July 9, 2007 1:50 PM

Sex and the City was a soap opera, just with less poisonings and an evening time slot.

It was one long advertisement for couture labels and elitist restaurants. And it was boring. And most of the sex wasn't even sexy. Is that not the point of sex?

The first series was OK but after it, if the writers had injected anymore hollow fabulosity into the characters, they would have shed their female skins and continued on their path to Gay Man Stereotype Land. The original book was a fun read and decidedly more interesting than the show.

A show that is about relationships out of the norm, that's interesting and has real drama and is actually sexy? Big Love.

Posted by: Rebecca H. at July 9, 2007 2:29 PM

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/02/09/1076175068807.html

That link should illustrate the point. Keep in my mind that while originally it was based on a book, and that the writer of said book likes to repeat that it is based on her; that is not at all what Darren Starr, creator of the series, focused on when he and the writers took on the task of elaborating the concept.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 9, 2007 5:14 PM

Sorry I tried to provide a link but I got some bullshit message about spamlinks or some such nonsense.

Anyway, do google search on Sex and the City and gay men or Darren Starr and you'll see what I meant.

:)

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at July 9, 2007 5:17 PM

Nothing to me is more repellant than the idea of and the fans of Sex in the City. I have never stooped to watch it, as I know it wouldn't even be funny in a bad sort of way. What I do know is that a bushel of tranny-looking crones waving around faux-sophistication and their vaginas as if anyone on earth cared about either is not entertainment. But it presumably lends some form of escapism to the lives of fat chicks and gay dudes. Whatever.

Posted by: Amanda at July 12, 2007 2:13 PM

In Her Shoes ... please ... Diaz was awful

Posted by: mak at July 16, 2007 12:34 AM