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I feel sorry for their kids, but otherwise I laugh heartily at these morons' marital failure(s).

Well, congratulations on basically taking eight children hostage for your own monetary gains and then psychologically crippling them all. Fuck both of you. You haven't done anything for your kids in years. Stay the fuck away from anyone under the age of 18 for the rest of your lives.

I'm not saying that Jon and Kate rape puppies here...I'm just saying, there's a possibility they're puppy rapers.

*applauds*

You've pretty much summed up how I feel, except that for some reason I have a strange sympathy for Kate. I think she would have stuck it out but Jon and his hairplugs need to bang schoolteachers. Oh, God, I need a life.

I watched the episode with the guys from Orange County Choppers the other day and it was just spectacularly awkward. When you make those cats look really well-adjusted...

They can't be doing it for the kids as the show is no longer about the kids. It's about a failed marriage and the constant tension between these two. Oh, and famewhoring. Never forget the famewhoring. Obviously they have to keep doing the show because John isn't going to be able to support eight children and Kate's lifestyle with any sort of a real job. Plus, they're going to have hundreds of thousands of dollars in therapy bills to pay for in a few years. I don't watch the show and I really don't pay attention to much of this shit so I probably should say this but, these people are despicable.

I would dearly love to hate fuck the shit out of Kate's hair.

I truly have sympathy for the kids, these are trying times for all involved. Never the less, I put the blame at the feet of that raging puppy dog Kate. I watched in horror one episode in which the guy went to the store and didn’t use a goddamn coupon that she had given him, when he got back home she just about broke a Champaign bottle over his head for not using the coupon that could have saved him about fifty cents. Listen all you ladies out in pajibaville, as sure as I’m fat and disgusting, there are many of you that break your husbands/ boyfriends balls for doing the exact same thing as poor Jon did. It’s just a fucking coupon ladies, it’s not like he went to the bank and took all the money out of the savings account and flew to Vegas and spent the money on gambling and broads.

I just feel so bad for the kids. So much of your life changes when your parents divorce, and for them (especially the older twins) to experience it publicly is heartbreaking.

I think more people should have 8 kids at a time. Makes them fighters. Just imagine 8 babies battling over two titties. That kind of thing just gets them ready for the workplace.
Talk about compeTITive.

I hate that I know who these people are.

Optimus Rhyme, I’m appalled at your callous words. Sir, at long last, have you no decency?

Hmm...imagining myself in one of those kid's potential timelines:

Option 1, Never Was a Show:
Taking the bus until I'm 35 in order to pay for my extensive student loans, but being a stable and even-keeled individual due to the example of my parents supportive and loving relationship.

Option 2, Show Continues For Several More Seasons Documenting My Parents' Famewhorish Need for Money and Attention:
Driving around town in the Lexus my parents bought me, wealthy and well-educated, but emotionally barren, due to my traumatic childhood that has left me with a scarred and fragile psyche.

Eh... it's a toss-up.

It's even worse than all this.

First, I doubt they were ever happily married. Having eight kids in a few years and then selling their privacy for mass public consumption probably brought about their marriage's demise faster than otherwise, but you can't tell me they were happily married--she still did the same bullshit back then that she does now, it's just gotten worse and now she acts like some goddamned victim.

Fact of the matter is if any guy were shown berating, humiliating, insulting, and shitting on his wife every time she turned around, even to the point of getting angry about how she breathes (yep, Kate really did that), people would be freaking up in arms. But what do I hear from women (not here)? Oh well she HAS to be like that to run a family that large.

Really? Because that's bullshit. They're both adults. They should treat each other like adults. I've never understood the need to infantilize and emasculate and insult men with every other breath, as if they're good for nothing but baby batter and some income. Why did you marry him if he's such a goddamned loser that you have to tell him how to breathe and walk and sit?

On the other hand, the only reason I ever caught the show from time to time was to see if Jon was ever EVER going to demand his balls back. If he was ever going to just go off on her, finally snapping under all that constant needling criticism. The man apparently could do nothing right, except jack off in a cup a couple of times and give her eight kids she doesn't seem much concerned with anymore.

In other words, Dustin, I think you were far too kind in your review. These two are grifters, her more than him, and exploiting their children constantly for the last four years for profit is nothing short of despicable. Even child actors work under certain laws and restrictions. Not these kids.

Not only will some classmate say they have a copy of their parent's divorce announcement on DVD, I always cringe when I remember the episode in which one of the boys was constipated so badly his bowels were impacted and Jon literally had to take him out to the van (they were out somewhere) and help the kid out with his bare hands. Now that's some serious parenting, but does that event really need to be put out there for millions of strangers? Really?

She autographs and sells photos of her kids to strangers. Does that not trip off anyone's creep-o-meter? Like right off the chart?

Apparently next week they'll take all those kids she wanted so badly to some brunch where they'll tell them, on camera, preserved forever, that their family has imploded. Happy life, kids!

barf back in the beginning of the show, Kate made a big hairy deal out of how if ANY of them wanted out of the show, it was over. If Jon said I don't want to do it, it's done. If she said I don't want to do it, it's done.

Apparently she was lying. He said on camera he didn't want to continue and she said well too bad.

The life they live now can't be supported if they stop the show. They get $75,000 a episode and TLC ordered 40 episodes for season 5. Season 4 was 41 episodes. Apparently they have to tape hundreds of hours just to get some usable minutes for each episode (Kate has always been worse than we've been allowed to see--confirming my husband's theory that what we've seen is her GOOD behavior).

But now they have this million dollar home on 20 acres in Pennsylvania, he's buying a flat in Manhattan, I don't know where she'll live, there's also a townhome in Utah, the cars, all the stuff, the restaurants, her spa weekends, tanning, nails, clothes, purses, electronics, you name it. Of course they get a bunch of freebies, but that's all *because* of the show. The show stops, the freebies stop, too. Including the trips.

They've created a monster. And quite frankly, I'm sick of these freak family shows on TLC anyway--12 kids, 8 kids, As Many Kids As Mom Can Have Until Her Lady Bits Die, it's ridiculous.

So we don't even watch TLC anymore. If there's a particularly interesting clip, I'll catch it somewhere online.

An Old Friend Of Jon's (Not Kate's) Speaks Up (Interesting): http://tinyurl.com/oyqsfm

Figures. The one act of sanity - killing this show, or even suspending it - actually occurs because some executive at Discovery realizes that they might now lose money.

Jesus Herbert Christ and all His Martyred Saints, can we please, please in the name of anything unholy get rid of these hideous, narcissistic reality shows?

Parents who do it for the kids don’t video document their irretrievable breakdown so that the children can relive it over and over again (with their friends) for the next several decades.
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I call hyperbole. Because the public (and the kids' friends and, hopefully, most of the kids, cause kids are more resilient than we give them credit for) will completely forget this train wreck ever happened about 15 minutes after the final episode airs. If you really want to put it behind you, you can put it behind you. When the kids hit 18 they can change their names, move to Canada, work oil field jobs and nobody will know them or care.

They both suck. Her for being a raging bitch and him for being a simpering idiot who would rather mumble under his breath than confront a real situation. At least she has balls...clearly the only ones in the relationship. And they really suck if either of them cheated.
And they both super-suck for airing their divorce on TV and forcing their kids to deal with it publicly. Dealing with your parents' divorce is horrible, but to have to do it in front of cameras? Boooooooooooo
I hate passive/agressive bullshit. The funny thing is, I've never seen the show, just the small clips here and there that have been shown from all this media coverage.
Blah. They should pull the plug on this quagmire and sign a stupid book deal that will keep them from having to work for the rest of their lives. Don't forget to put some money away "for the kids" when they need therapy. Because they will need it.
I'm in a bad mood.

I hate that the Gosselin's make the Duggar's look normal.

On the plus side, maybe people will be so sick of these litters that Octomom won't be able to cash in.

Thumbs up to snuggiepants, who really captured the double-standard argument. Those who applaud Kate's abusive behavior should take a good look at themsleves. Maybe Jon is a bit of a weenie, but I don't know any man who could last under that constant litany of criticism day in and day out for years and years.

What if he did fight back? I bet you the first time he raised his voice to her, she would have called the authorities and accused him of abuse. People like Kate (of both genders) who are that controlling and obsessively self-righteous will not stop until everyone cowers at their will.

With that being said, I can only laugh at the bodyguard, who is allegedly sticking it to her (in the Bibilical sense) Hey buddy, you think you'll be any different? Prepare to be whipped!

I was determined not to watch last night's show. But (and I know I'm retarded for this) somehow I had this little chunk of hope that maybe their "big announcement" would shock the shit out of everyone by being that they were done with all their bullshit and had fallen back in love with each other and made a new baby or something. Yes, as I said, retarded. So anyway, I watched, and it was very, very sad. It actually seemed like Kate didn't believe it was really going to happen, like she thought she could keep Jon under her thumb forever, like even in the face of separation (which has since become divorce) she thought they would still end up together or something. Homeboy clearly checked out a long time ago though. I started out hating her and now he is just as despicable as she is. You know what the really sad thing is (besides the future of those adorable little kids)? He'll probably get some girlfriend or other in no time, and she'll be alone indefinitely. He'll be a single guy with some money, and she'll be the old hag with 8 kids. What guy wants that kind of baggage?

Look at where Jon & Kate were when the show started: A happily married couple of humble means with bad hair who fawned over their children.

Bullshit. They were never happy to begin with. The only time I've watched these 2 is when the original documentary came out; he seemed impatient with her, she seemed incredibly bitchy. I recall telling my wife, "these 2 aren't meant to be married to each other."

Color me not so shocked that they're getting a divorce.

That's just it: anyone who has caught even 5 minutes of the show isn't even slightly surprised by the divorce. What really blows my mind is that "the show must go on".
It's your FAMILY. These are your CHILDREN. IT'S NOT A GODDAMNED SHOW!

Personally, I'm waiting for "A Very Special Episode of Jon and Kate Plus Eight: Daddy Drinks Because You Cry."

The Christmas special will be fucking epic!

Grovera - I am not saying that I'm on her side or anything, believe me! I only mean that it's sad, in a really pathetic sort of way, that the odds are she will have a damned hard time getting out of the grave she's dug for herself. I think she honestly thought that no matter what she did, she would at least always have one man (Jon) in her life... So while they're both douchebags, he's a douchebag that will likely find companionship relatively easily. I think it's a matter of how men view divorced/single mothers versus how women view divorced/single fathers.

I'd like to get down to some brass tacks that are all the way at the bottom of this stupid train wreck: the Big Lie.

After they had the twins, she says they wanted just one more. Well, actually they have both admitted he didn't want anymore, only she did. He was happy with two healthy kids.

Anyway, we all know by now that what Kate wants, Kate gets, so they went back to infertility drugs and at one point her ovaries were so overstimulated, she was hospitalized. Do you know how badly overstimulated your ovaries have to be for them to hospitalize you? Like dozens and dozens of ripe follicles. It probably went without saying, but their doctor told them anyway: uh, once we release you, don't go home and try to kick this old-school, ok kids? You will likely end up with an inhuman number of babies. Right? Got it?

They said they got it. They went home and did it. And then acted all shocked, SHOCKED! that they conceived six. Hell, I bet their doctor was shocked they didn't conceive 12.

Then of course they blanched at selective reduction and said oh no, we simply couldn't do that. To be fair, neither could I. But because I KNOW I couldn't do that, I would have um, SAT OUT the hyperstimulated cycle. If you cannot handle the consequences, don't play the game.

What I'm getting to is this: I've heard the phrase "baby-greedy freaks" lately and while it's not a nice thing to call someone, honestly I think it fits pretty well. What ever happened to employing common sense and saying hey, if we have a ton of babies, we can't support them. Or hey, we're against selective reduction, so we better not do this right now. Maybe we should wait.

Or even better: how about Jon actually got a vote in the thing in the first place?

I'm not begrudging the kids' presence in the world, don't get me wrong. But I'm giving a great BIG hairy side-eye to this glorification of stupidity that results in families so big you can't support them without whoring them out for public consumption.

"And let this be a lesson for those so narcissistic that they invest tens of thousands of dollars just so that their genetic material get passed on - if you need fertility treatment, you'll get multiples. If you get multiples, your marriage will likely go south fast. Do yourself, the kids, and the world a favour, and put your money towards adoption, because really, you're not that great or special to deserve your own genetic offspring. Can't have your own children? Too fucking bad, life just ain't fair. Get over it, and get over yourselves, and give some other child a better life - let that be your legacy. Any idiot can plant a seed or bear fruit. Raising a child well - that takes a real parent."

lordhelmet, that entire paragraph makes me wanna slo-mo high five you so bad...

Nicely said.

I would like to watch Skitz and lordhelmet do the slo-mo high five whilst a single tear makes its way down my cheek. Also in slo-mo.

And then maybe I'll make out with Snuggipants. You adorable bringer of death, you!

dustin, you hit a home run with your
comments.the fact that this despicable
couple has become a topic of national
interest is really frightening.

They said they got it. They went home and did it. And then acted all shocked, SHOCKED! that they conceived six. Hell, I bet their doctor was shocked they didn't conceive 12.

They conceived seven. One never developed / didn't make it.

My wife is devoted to this show.
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What will they call it when Jon brings his younger girlfriend on the show for the first time? "Jon and Kate + bait".

This is a nadir for reality television, and possibly television in general.

courtney I still have plenty of eggs, apparently, but not much else works these days. Plus I'd be violating my sacred oath with Mr. Snuggiepants that we'd spread our seed once. We already did that. Said Seed is rolling around on the couch with cucumber slices on her eyes (THEY'RE SO PUFFY!) and whining about how life isn't fair, why does Summer have to be grounded, WHAT IS SHE GOING TO DO TODAY, LIFE IS SO BORING OH MY GOD!

This is part of the reason why I have no earthly fucking clue why anyone would want eight of these. Or even four. I love her to death, I do I do, but the idea of more of these creatures as teenagers makes me want to kill myself. Plus they're a walking money pit.

That's part of the reason I sort of hope there are still occasional news stories about these dipshits about oh, 10 years from now, along the lines of "KATE AND JON BOTH CONSIDER TEEN-PROVOKED SUICIDE PACT." With pics.

Oh, Che. Have I told you lately how I've missed you?

Ooh... I can't quite boycott the whole thing. I do love What Not To Wear. In the end, Stacey and Clinton are about helping people feel better about themselves, and I like that.