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It’s Getting Kind of Hard to Believe Things Are Going to Get Better

The Daily Trade Round-Up / Daniel Carlson

Trade News | May 1, 2008 | Comments (206)


Summer is definitely beginning to make itself known here in sunny SoCal: The California tourism commercials are increasing in frequency, “The Hills” is back on the air, and those of us without central air are learning once again just how glorious ceiling fans can be. But aside from all that, we’re just hours away from the start of the summer movie season, and as if to make us enjoy the onslaught of tentpoles even more, the news out of Hollywood has been boring and douchey and generally uninvolving. I mean, Uwe Boll is suing Billy Zane. It’s impossible to care less than I do about how that turns out.

It seems that Ewan McGregor is in talks to join Angels and Demons, the sequel to The Da Vinci Code. There’s probably some kind of plot to Angels and Demons, but honestly, I don’t know anyone who’s read it, or who’s brave enough to admit having done so. My guess is that there’s a conspiracy involving the Catholic Church and some kind of car chase. Whatever happens, I think we can all agree that McGregor seems like a nice man who shouldn’t put himself through the ordeal of starring in another bad movie. Don’t do it, Ewan.

In a bid to bring in every last drop of revenue from teens who are too dumb to know better, Rogue Pictures has preemptively picked up a spec script titled Drill Team from Gregory Anderson. The logline reads thusly: “A female-driven teen dance movie set in the competitive world of high school drill teams.” There’s something just so overwhelmingly depressing about this whole concept that any attempt to understand it flies right by the obvious question of who cares about drill teams and winds up making you just feel sad for the kids who are gonna get taken in by this.

Here’s something random: Anna Chlumsky is going to star in In the Loop, a political satire for BBC Films. She’ll be starring with James Gandolfini and some other people, but who cares about them. The point is that the star of My Girl has, inexplicably, returned to the business. On one hand, it’s easy to dismiss the casting, especially since it’s tough to know how she’ll hold her own onscreen against anything other than the ghost of Macaulay Culkin. But I’m looking on the bright side, especially since Chlumsky drifted through a couple of low-level editing jobs after college. I guess there’s hope for us all.

Keeping the 1990s theme going, Christian Slater, best known for pumping up our volume, will star in Dolan’s Cadillac, an adaptation of the Stephen King short story. Joining him will be Wes Bentley and Emmanuelle Vaugier. Bentley will play a guy out to avenge his wife’s murder by a Las Vegas mob boss, played by Slater. Erik Canuel is directing the film, written by Richard Dooling. There’s little chance that the film will be any more suspenseful or engaging than a pleasant walk in the park on an April afternoon. “Dolan’s Cadillac” is from King’s collection Nightmares and Dreamscapes, and though the book isn’t the meandering waste of his later works, it certainly lacks the firepower of his earlier stories.

First up in today’s trailer watch is actually a user vid featuring images cribbed from Google and set to Jason Segel’s “Dracula’s Lament” from Forgetting Sarah Marshall. For the past two weeks, my roommate and I have occasionally burst forth with cries of, “And if I see Van Helsing, I SWEAR TO THE LORD I WILL SLAY HIM!” It’s pretty much the only thing getting me through the day:

Next is the trailer for The Escapist. Every time I read that title, I think someone’s made an adaptation of the comic character from The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay, and I always get a little sad when I realize that’s not the case. Still, the real film in question looks pretty good. It’s got Brian Cox and prison breaks; what else do you need?

Daniel Carlson is the managing editor of Pajiba and a low-level employee at a Hollywood industry magazine. You can visit his blog, Slowly Going Bald.









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Comments

You do know Anna was on 30 Rock, right? I mean, it wasn't a big part, but it kinda sounded like you didn't know.

Posted by: V ermillion at May 1, 2008 6:13 AM

Ugh. Ewan. Why?

I'm beginning to wonder if the first half of his film career was a fluke beautiful relationship between his desperate need for work and the right scripts magically appearing on his nightstand. Now I think I may have to place him firmly in the category of 'Actors who should never be able to choose their own work'. He could make good friends with Mr Gooding Jr.

Posted by: missh at May 1, 2008 6:35 AM

I've read Angels and Demons. Not much more to say really.

Posted by: eiluj at May 1, 2008 6:51 AM

Mr. Kolby & I listened to Angels and Demons on CD while driving from Florida to New York one year. It wasn't that bad - it was entertaining, we both agreed that it was at least better than The Davinci Code, and it didn't matter if I fell asleep for two chapters. Not a bad deal for an 18-hour trip.

Posted by: Kolby at May 1, 2008 7:30 AM

I always get a little bit excited whenever I hear that Wes Bentley is involved in a project...and then, inevitably, I learn more about the project.

..though the book isn't the meandering waste of [Stephen King's] later works...
I beg to differ, sir.

*sigh*

Posted by: Jerce at May 1, 2008 7:35 AM

I always get a little bit excited whenever I hear that Wes Bentley is involved in a project...and then, inevitably, I learn more about the project.

For some reason I have been locked in his blue-eyed tracker beam since American Beauty. But, then I saw P2... and Ghost Rider. I should just stop watching his movies.

Posted by: jM at May 1, 2008 7:46 AM

Christian Slater, best known for pumping up our volume

I disagree, good sir. Christian Slater is best known for fucking us gently with a chainsaw.

Also, Eric Canuel? Bon Cop, Bad Cop Eric Canuel? Come back Eric, your country needs you.

Posted by: sarahbot at May 1, 2008 8:05 AM

Don't do it indeed, Ewan!! I still remember!! I don't know why I'm yelling!!!

Posted by: domoarigato at May 1, 2008 8:18 AM

Utterly depressing, save for The Escapist trailer - which was in its own way depressing.
Ewan, you could have been somebody!

Posted by: Cindy at May 1, 2008 8:24 AM

I sooo hope that this song gets nominated for an oscar (Hey, it's better than "it's hard out here for a pimp") and then the gloriously snuggly Jason Segel does a puppet-ful performance on stage.

Honestly, I'm usually not the type of gal who lusts over the people I'm watching onscreen, but man could I do naughty things with Jason Segel.

Posted by: JJ McClay at May 1, 2008 8:25 AM

I'm gonna have to agree with Kolby here.

Angels & Demons is actually quite enjoyable, and I love Dan Brown's work. I really enjoyed Digitial Fortress and Deception Point because they kept his style, they just didn't have the religious aspects to them (I know literally nothing about the history of religiion).

That being said, when I heard about Ewan potentially being in Angels & Demons, I wasn't disappointed.

Posted by: Colin at May 1, 2008 8:32 AM

Dolan's Cadillac was actually one of the stories that stood out for me in that collection. I thought it was beautiful, terrible and grim. I kind of like King when he eschews the supernatural.

Posted by: twig at May 1, 2008 8:44 AM

I read Angels and Demons (and no, Goolee, you're not fooling anyone). It sucked. I read it only because I was stuck in the family waiting area during my dad's 9 hour cancer surgery.

Oh, Ewan.

(Psst - I like drill teams.)

Posted by: Nicole at May 1, 2008 8:45 AM

Shhh. Awww, sweet Daniel. Come on, have a seat. No, no looking at your feet mister. You see, today people will be able to watch a little film called Iron Man. This film has brought light to the darkness. It has given hope to the hopeless. It will remind you that the cracked Hollywood system thrust upon us is actually capable of producing something good, or dare I say, awesome. Shhh, everything will be okay. Now don't forget to pack your shiv, because if Iron Man isn't great, then it will get worse than Watts out there.

Posted by: jM at May 1, 2008 8:47 AM

Haha, that music video is awesome. I very much enjoyed the puppet performance during the actual movie. The music reminds me of the Trans-Siberian Orchestra's Beethoven's Last Night . . . which totally rocks. :-)

As for Angels and Demons, I tried to read the book, but didn't make it a quarter of the way through. Brown's writing is not for me.

Posted by: nutmeag at May 1, 2008 8:47 AM

Christian Slater, best known for pumping up our volume

I disagree, good sir. Christian Slater is best known for fucking us gently with a chainsaw.

I think he can accomplish both at the same time. I mean, that kind of chainsaw action would definitely pump up MY volume.

Posted by: Gabs at May 1, 2008 8:48 AM

There's an almost Pajiban review of Iron Man on the Sydney Morning Herald's website today.

(www.smh.com.au)

Posted by: The Wanderer at May 1, 2008 8:55 AM

Dan, I read Angels & Demons a few years back, and look forward to the bit in the movie where Tom Hanks saves himself from a huge freefall from a plane by using a pocket hankerchief. I'm not even joking. The character learns about it early on as a method of slowing one's descent, and Brown even telegraphs it with something like, 'Little did he know, that in 250 pages this would save his life.' Fucking drivel. The story, if I remember correctly, was about secret tunnels under the vatican and the Pope having a lovechild.

Posted by: Zuffle at May 1, 2008 9:00 AM

Okay, so I'm not afraid to admit that I was in love with Anna Chlumsky when I was younger. Hell, that's the only reason I watched Secrets of Gold Digger Mountain (or whatever it was called). And I for one am extremely excited that she's coming back. Even if it is in an obscure role. I didn't know she was on 30 Rock, Vermillion...which episodes?

Another dance porn movie? Wait...I thought the drill team were the uncool girls who couldn't make the cheerleading squad and were thus given the consolatory pity prize of being on the same field as the cheerleaders? Is this a new Bring It On?

Haven't read Davinci Code or Angels and Demons. My interest is so profoundly uninterested I have to slap myself a few times to stay awake whenever I even hear Dan Brown's name. But Ewan could do so much better...so disappointed.

Not nearly as much as not being able to view trailrs at work. Damn you, Pajiba!

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 9:02 AM

*sigh* I read Angels and Demons as well. Poor me. It IS better than Da Vinci Code, but only just. They're both horrible, horrible books. Brown is a fucking hack.
And, ehm, Angels and Demons is a prequel to Da Vinci. Sorry.

(I'll go hide now)

Posted by: Agent Scully at May 1, 2008 9:03 AM

Couldn't agree more, JJ McClay. He's a little weird looking, but he kind of reminds me of a really big Teddy Bear you snuggle the living fuck out of. Although I may just be saying that because he whips it out twice during the movie and does a weird little wiggle thing with it.

Posted by: Jeremy at May 1, 2008 9:04 AM

Angels and Demons was the first book picked for the short-lived dorm book club I was in. It's slightly less blasphemous than the DaVinci Code, but all I know of the DaVinci Code is what I saw in the movie my sister made me take her to. Anyway, the man writes like he's writing movies, not books, so I'm betting it'll probably work better on the screen than it did on the page.

The Escapist looks pretty good, and I know it was filmed at Kilmainham Gaol in Dublin because I visited it earlier this year. Not while the movie was filming, unfortunately.

Posted by: Genny (also Rusty) at May 1, 2008 9:06 AM

Oh yeah...

I GOT TICKETS TO IRON MAN TONIGHT!!!!

That is all.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 9:07 AM

I'm pretty sure Angels and Deamons is a prequel to Da Vinci Code, but that's really neither here nor there. I found DVC fun and entertaining, while A&D got REALLY far-fetched after a while. I didn't find any deeper meaning in either of them. Didn't think the theories therein were heretical (some of those critics should read The Pagan Christ, now THAT book rocks the foundations of Christianity).

I'm totally meh on the A&D movie. But I, too, am looking forward to the part where the protagonist free-falls out of a plane and saves himself by air-surfing on a piece of cardboard or a shirt or something ridiculous like that.

Posted by: Pea at May 1, 2008 9:13 AM

Call me close-minded, but I say a prison break isn't a prison break without pretty Wentworth Miller in attendance.

That vampire song did make me want to see Forgetting Sarah Marshall more. It's pretty much the only movie I am considering seeing. Especially since they closed the only theater that showed "arty" movies.

Posted by: Cait at May 1, 2008 9:30 AM

I concur on the Angel and Demons dislike. I read DaVinci Code, but kicked and screamed my way through the first 30 pages of Angels and Demons. Dan Brown's writing is just as bland as his name.

p.s. "Die. Die. Die....I can't." So awesome and yet sad.

Posted by: tncunnin at May 1, 2008 9:36 AM

"p.s. 'Die. Die. Die....I can't.' So awesome and yet sad."

But mostly awesome.

Can this please be a real rock opera? I would go in a heartbeat.

However, as for the Jason Segel crushes, mine sort of diminished as I watched Sarah Marshall. There are too many shirtless moments and...it just ain't pretty.

Posted by: tt_marie at May 1, 2008 10:14 AM

Turn that frown upside down, Mr. Carlson. It's not all gloom and doom out there. Pretty soon GI Joe will out! Yippee! And if you're reallly good, maybe you'll get to review Thundercats!

*dials suicide hotline*

Posted by: Manny at May 1, 2008 10:19 AM

Pretty soon GI Joe will out! Yippee!

I'm feeling pretty bipolar about this one. On one hand, I would watch my TV boyfriend Christopher Eccleston read the phonebook. On the other hand, I've got a nice duet of voices going on in my head. One says, "what the fuck, you're thinking about watching a GI JOE MOVIE?!" and the other one pipes up every time I think about CE and slaps me in the face for being ruled so easily.

What can I say, at least I'm never short on entertainment.

Posted by: sarahbot at May 1, 2008 10:25 AM

That's the second time I've thought that The Escapist was an adaptation of The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay but I'm kind of glad that it isn't, given the shitty book to film transitions that have been going on lately. That book is precious to me. If and when they transcribe it and it sucks, I'll want to die.

But a note on the actual Escapist; Dominic Cooper. Mmmmmmmm. Delish.

Posted by: Kash at May 1, 2008 10:28 AM

I liked Bring It On. It was good for releasing finals week stress.

King's work is generally not my style, but I do enjoy his short stories. The only novel of his I managed to finish was Delores Claiborne, which was so much better than that movie.

Posted by: Melody at May 1, 2008 10:43 AM

So doess The Escapist take place during Detective Crews' 9 years in jail?

Posted by: Brian at May 1, 2008 10:48 AM

What can I say, at least I'm never short on entertainment.

Or mixed metaphors, apparently. Mea culpa.

Posted by: sarahbot at May 1, 2008 10:51 AM

I disagree, good sir. Christian Slater is best known for fucking us gently with a chainsaw.

Is that a Heathers refernce?

Posted by: Brian at May 1, 2008 10:54 AM

Yeah, Anna Chlumsky played the Law Stylist's girlfriend from the accounting department, who should have received Liz Lemon's valentine roses. I love that episode.

Posted by: Loob at May 1, 2008 10:57 AM

Oops, I should clarify, you don't actually SEE Chlumsky until a later episode. But you hear about her in the roses one. :)

Posted by: Loob at May 1, 2008 11:09 AM

Anna Chlumsky & I grew up in the same neighborhood and I heard she was a real brat. She filmed an episode of Early Edition at my high school, and in passing, I saw that she's actually quite short and had a thousand rollers in her hair, giving her an alien appearance. Didn't actually talk to her, though.

Even though Christian Slater has done some serious crap lately, I still love him. Even in Kuffs. I hope he does well in this new flick.

I fell asleep during The DaVinci Code so I'll pass on the next installment.

Posted by: Brie at May 1, 2008 11:10 AM

I didn't particularly mind Da Vinci Code but actually moderately enjoyed A&D. I will also go see the movie. My problem/justification is, I am a raging Italophile (or whatever the word would be) and I want to see them in the Castel Sant'Angelo and the tunnel to the Vatican(that bit is real) and all the churches and historic places where they do horribly dumb stuff. I've been to a good chunk of the places the book is set and I want to see them again. Is that a goofy-ass reason to see a movie or what? Also, if Ewan is really playing the charismatic/crazy Camerlengo, I call that a bit of redeeming for stupid Tom Hanks trying to be fucking Indiana Langdon.

Posted by: Anne (in Reno) at May 1, 2008 11:13 AM

Hey Brie did you notice that Ashley Judd was also in Kuffs? She had no lines, just stood there sobbing after her shop was trashed by bad guys.
I reckon they should have given her the Milla Jovovich part. :)

Posted by: Loob at May 1, 2008 11:15 AM

Any group of teenaged girls called a "drill team" is worth paying notice. Just sayin'.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at May 1, 2008 11:19 AM

Brian: yes, it is.

Yes, I'm kind of happy the Kavalier and Clay movie has been languishing for a while. Just don't know if it could be done.

Angels and Demons came first, Da Vinci is the sequel. It's kind of Illuminati vs. Vatican, if you will.

And I know northern California does not have standard AC (reckless gambling like the Europeans), but southern doesn't either? Isn't it kinda hot there most of the time? Who the hell's running that state? Guess I naively thought it was just the Olde Big Cities with really olde buildings that pulled that crap. You poor bastards (except you reptiles that like that nonsense). The weather's starting to really suck here too. October you are SO far away!!!

And don't forget: Jason Segel Muppet Movie!

Ah, that has a bit of a cool breeze to it.

Posted by: Jay at May 1, 2008 11:21 AM

And don't forget: Jason Segel Muppet Movie!

Those are four of my favorite words.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 11:24 AM

I'm feeling pretty bipolar about this one. On one hand, I would watch my TV boyfriend Christopher Eccleston read the phonebook. On the other hand, I've got a nice duet of voices going on in my head. One says, "what the fuck, you're thinking about watching a GI JOE MOVIE?!" and the other one pipes up every time I think about CE and slaps me in the face for being ruled so easily.

It's okay, Sarahbot. Nine rules you. Ten rules me. I would watch a Michael Bay flick if Ten were involved (which he wouldn't, I'm just being hypothetical).

Posted by: Nicole at May 1, 2008 11:25 AM

Any group of teenaged girls called a "drill team" is worth paying notice. Just sayin'.

I do not think it means what you think it means.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 11:27 AM

Nicole! Curb your tongue! I can just picture Michael Bay kidnapping Ten and holding him hostage to get all of the Who fans to come to his movies or something.

Posted by: Anne (in Reno) at May 1, 2008 11:28 AM

Sarahbot:

Get your thieving hands off of my boyfriend RIGHT NOW or I will be forced to become physically violent.

Re: Angels and Demons, I think it is relevant that it's a prequel to the DaVinci mess because it's the same character and a really similar story line and of course he falls in love with the woman of his dreams and then, poof! in the DaVinci book he starts all over again. In other words, Dan Brown is making gazillions of money from writing the same bad book over and over again.

Oh, and Zuffle is right: the pocket handkerchief parachute is one of the most preposterous plot devices ever and Brown couldn't trust us to pick up on so he had to underline and bold-type the scene where the character hears about the theory.
I hate this genre of writing. HATE.

Posted by: PaddyDog at May 1, 2008 11:29 AM

+1 to Shadows for the Vizzini reference :)

Nicole, you make me very curious about Dr. Who. I may have to rent it.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 11:29 AM

Wait no...Inigo reference? Right?

[goes through catalogue of movie quotes that run on a constant loop through her head]

Inigo. I blame the chest cold and lack of sleep.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 11:31 AM

Julie - it was Inigo Montoya who said that, but I'll let it slide because you're a doll.

Posted by: Kolby at May 1, 2008 11:35 AM

Poo.

Posted by: Kolby at May 1, 2008 11:37 AM

Hey did any of the Whovians out there see David Tennant on Top Gear on Monday? They asked him why Billie Piper calls him David Ten-inch. Now I'm curious.

Posted by: PaddyDog at May 1, 2008 11:37 AM

I do not think it means what you think it means.

Yeah, just wait till Alan Ball gets hold of it. Creepy suburban oppression and stifled middle class prurient urges lead to young drill team girls getting it on with Matthew Modine and Pierce Brosnan in the back seat of Trans Am kit cars.

What do you suppose the porn title equivalent will be? Drill-Me Team?

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at May 1, 2008 11:38 AM

Thanks for noticing, Julie my sweet. Yes, Inigo....the original Rube. I miss that show. I would watch the movie again tonight...but I'm seeing something else far more recent.

I watched the first season of D. Who when it was CE. Really enjoyed it. Can't get into the new one. I don't know what it is...I just don't like him. Bring back Eccleston!

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 11:39 AM

Jason Segel Muppet Movie... Wow, I'm trying to take that all in. (That's what she said.) He may be the man for the job. I do love the 'Sarah Marshall' scene where he's drunk on the piano, slurring his way through the Muppet Theme Song. It's barely recognizable.

Posted by: Tyranthesaurus Rex at May 1, 2008 11:40 AM

Och! I can't follow everything, Paddy! But I suspect someone's put it on YouTube by now. I still have to watch "Learners", it's sitting there patiently in a folder next to "Quatermass Experiment".

I squeed about the Young Ones Sontaran, right? Well, SQUEE anyway! I imagine he had a better life as an alien clone. It's scary to go back and realize what terrifying squalor the boys liked in.

Posted by: Jay at May 1, 2008 11:42 AM

PaddyDog: Get your thieving hands off of my boyfriend RIGHT NOW or I will be forced to become physically violent.

Pistols at dawn.

Julie: Nicole, you make me very curious about Dr. Who. I may have to rent it.

I warn you, if it hits you right, you can say good-bye to your life. That's what happened to me, and it was wonderful.

Posted by: sarahbot at May 1, 2008 11:42 AM

Kolby: bwa!

God, I can't believe I'm sick for Iron Man...I refuse to go to the movie theater if I'm coughing, I can't to do that to people.

Socalled...hee. Getting Drilled and Double-Teamed?

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 11:42 AM

Creepy suburban oppression and stifled middle class prurient urges lead to young drill team girls getting it on with Matthew Modine and Pierce Brosnan in the back seat of Trans Am kit cars.
What do you suppose the porn title equivalent will be? Drill-Me Team?

Wait...is that a good thing or bad thing? Cuuuuz...I'm suddenly looking forward to that...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 11:45 AM

Missed Shadows' comment when I posted, But I have to declare my love of Eccleston as the Doctor. That along with his appearance on Heroes made him a personal hero. Tennant has his own charms though, whenever he whips out the emo glasses I can't help smiling.

Posted by: Tyranthesaurus Rex at May 1, 2008 11:46 AM

the original Rube. I miss that show.

!!! God me too. I loved every minute of Dead Like Me. I just rerented the first season, and it was just as spectacular. Stupid Showtime.


I do love the 'Sarah Marshall' scene where he's drunk on the piano, slurring his way through the Muppet Theme Song.

Oh my GOD, now I HAVE to see this movie, T-Rex (heh).

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 11:46 AM

I fianlly manage to get onto Pajiba today and I come to
a- Muppets and Jason Segel
b- Christian Slater is fucking us gently with a chainsaw.
c- Princess Bride references

but I also come to

a- Dan Brown and Angels and Demons.....


hmmmmmm, how it takes three awesome things to counter-act just one I will never know

Posted by: Bethy at May 1, 2008 11:50 AM

I have a lot of nostalgic Anna Chlumsky love-- I adored My Girl when I was little, and still cry every time I see it (cue to my and my sophomore year roommate, sharing an extra-long twin bed with a laptop balanced on my belly-- the warmth soothed it-- crying in the dark). I could never get the parents so purchase me the movie, so I was left to insist we rent it every time we went to rent movies. One day, a clerk said something to the tune of "why yes, we have My Girl 1, 2 and 3 in stock." My awkward little self got overly excited at the prospect of a third movie, only to find it doesn't exist. I've always wondered if that let down is the reason I cannot get through the original without crying like a baby, even though I know what's coming every time.

Posted by: artificialsweet at May 1, 2008 11:52 AM

Artificial, I bawl like an asshole every god damned time Vada starts crying at Thomas J's casket to "put his glasses on." Oh man. The tears, how they flow.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 11:53 AM

Ascends soap box.

Clears throat.

As someone who has been watching Doctor Who since she was 5 years old, I assure you every change of The Doctor is met with huge protests and millions of people declaring they will never watch it again. But you know, they always creep back because it's an addictive concept and if you have the right writers (Russel Davies) the stories are fantastic and really people, you have to get into the mind-set that it's the same man. There is only one Dcotor; it doesn't matter what he looks like. It's the same Time Lord. Believe me, I went through this with Peter Davison (Five and worst Doctor ever). It's a leap that you have to make, but if you're a real "Behind the Coucher" you will do it.

Thank you. That is all. Except: Sarahbot, back off. I have been dating Christopher Eccleston since the Cracker series. We went exclusive around about Jude. I have even forgiven him his support for Manchester football. He has no interest in any other women. It'll be easier on you this way.

Posted by: PaddyDog at May 1, 2008 11:59 AM

Oh, and Shadows of Dakaron, if memory serves, the Flag Corps is where the girls who cannot cheer end up.

You know it's bad when the marching band delights in taking bets on how many times you will drop your flag during the half-time show. It was never 0. Ever.

And yes, I was in the marching band. I prefered a feather out of my hat to white cowboy boots (seriously) and hand-me-down white spandex/red sequins leotard dresses (also seriously), and I knew I made the right choice when a girl got hit in the face with her own flag. The she was holding. In front of her face, where she could see it at all times. I never felt bad about neglecting to learn the music again, because at least I never went home with self inflicted injuries.

Posted by: artificialsweet at May 1, 2008 12:00 PM

hmmmmmm, how it takes three awesome things to counter-act just one I will never know

Because the one is just that bad...it takes much more to counteract it. We're trying very hard to ignore the spectacle.

By the way...Slater is also pretty good in He Was a Good Man...just had to throw that out there. Not just because I finally got around to watching it recently.

Now...see, Julie, what you're missing? I own all of Dead Like Me now...and can watch it whenever I want. Haha!

Oh...and...get better. I'll be sending you happy, heathy vibes from the movie theatre...if TK doesn't intercept them.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 12:00 PM

"He was going to be an acrobat"

Julie, that scene would keep me going all the way through her poem.

Posted by: artificialsweet at May 1, 2008 12:01 PM

PaddyDog: confession time. I only saw Cracker two weeks ago.

I know. Bad fangirl, no cookie.

In my own defense: I was 6 when it aired originally. I feels stupidly young.

Posted by: sarahbot at May 1, 2008 12:06 PM

Ok, wait, let me catch up.

Jules I will happily lend you the first series (Eccleston) and second (Tennant). I haven't bought 3 yet.

CE never did anything for me. I much prefer "Brilliant" to "Fantastic." As for Tennant, I believe that I have expressed over and again that I would pay him to read me the phone book wearing nothing but the glasses.

As far as Billie calling him "Ten-inch" (and no, I don't watch Top Gear so I missed it) I'd guess that well, he IS tall...

I'm still misty eyed over the Torchwood S2 finale. Russell T Davies has taken my soul.

And I effing heart Dead Like Me.

Posted by: Nicole at May 1, 2008 12:09 PM

Thanks Shadows...I'm a firm believer in the healing power of tea, orange juice, and things that make me laugh. Luckily tonight is The Office and 30 Rock night.

I need to start buying more dvd's...thejodester was making fun of me on Tuesday because I had to reluctantly return Stardust to the library...I had watched my favorite parts multiple times in the week I had it, and she said that it MAY be time that I just up and buy the dvd. Hee. Maybe.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 12:10 PM

Nicole: Here is something from me to you as a common fan of the Teninch. Google "What the Butler Saw" with the filters off. He was in a play where what the butler saw was apparently all of David.

Posted by: sarahbot at May 1, 2008 12:11 PM

Nicole:

Did you know his real name is David McArdle? Which is so much better than Tennant, but the British actor's guild has a rule on two actors with the same name.

Sarahbot:

Have you seen the whole Cracker series? If not brace yourself for "To Be Somebody". I cried for about two hours. I won't spoiler it for you.

Posted by: PaddyDog at May 1, 2008 12:13 PM

I haven't seen "To Be Somebody," but motherlovin' Wikipedia spoiled me on it. Grrrr.

Posted by: sarahbot at May 1, 2008 12:16 PM

Jules, you're paying for the movie anyway because you can't ever get a DVD back to the library on time. Just buy it already!

Posted by: thejodester at May 1, 2008 12:16 PM

Hee, Nicole I will totally take you up on that...Nicole and Julie drinky time, whee!

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 12:17 PM

Jodester, don't make me cough on you.

:sobs: And I know...I always owe the library money...their entire dvd collection expands from my late fees alone.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 12:19 PM

Shadows - I think the status of the drill team depends on the school. During my brief stint as a high school teacher I worked with our drill team for a semester, and they were far superior to the cheerleaders. That might have been because everyone who tried out made the cheerleading squad.

And oh god now I'm having flashbacks to chaperoning 55 high school girls constantly. They have so much drama, and somehow I became the favorite person to come cry or vent to.

Posted by: Aubrey at May 1, 2008 12:21 PM

Jules, you're paying for the movie anyway because you can't ever get a DVD back to the library on time. Just buy it already!

Busted!

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 12:21 PM

Loob, I didn't know that. It's been a while since I've seen it. All I remember from Kuffs is Slater, Jovovich, and that bad guy from Ghost, who coincidentally, directed Someone Like You, an Ashley Judd film I sort of like.

Actually, just forget about that last sentence.

Posted by: Brie at May 1, 2008 12:22 PM

When my little brother and I went to Italy last summer, we walked around Rome trying to find the different churches and sculptures mentioned in the book. The "fire" church was the hardest one to find (visible from the square my ass), but it was fun. We took all sorts of cheesy pictures of us freaking out at the Angel Castle (otherwise known as the base of the Illuminati), and we got through most everything but the "wind" statue in the Vatican in one day. Rome is that easy to walk around in. The book itself was a little pulpy for my taste, but I enjoyed seeing the art for real that he talked about.

Posted by: AJ at May 1, 2008 12:23 PM

artificialsweet, I hated the flag line people. I subjected myself to the pains of the school marching band as well and, unfortunately, was the geek who played the keyboard in the back of the pickup truck. The truck was lime green when our school colors were white and maroon...yeah... so they always had those damn flag girls flank the truck during parades to kind of try and make it seem like the band keyboardist was not riding in the back of a lime green pickup, but rather, floating on a sea of flag-wielding, maroon-clad, hoochies. Anyway, I ended up threatening to quit the band if I got smacked upside the head with a flag one more time, since it seemed to be the life goal of each and every flag chick to hit me at least once every 12 minutes. I think I ended up quitting anyway, but over something stupidly unrelated... like shoe tassels. Something in that order.

Posted by: J_Capri at May 1, 2008 12:29 PM

I keep giggling at "drill team." Heh.

Shadows...I know. I suck. I get paid tomorrow, I should totally buy it.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 12:29 PM

Julie, as an onwer of the above-mentioned Stardust

buy it

it is totally worth it

Posted by: Bethy at May 1, 2008 12:41 PM

I have five books that were due back at the library a month ago. I believe that Ben Franklin had the foresight that patrons such as Julie and me would never return their materials on time and therefore continue to fund The Free Library of Philadelphia.

Doctor Who + Julie + Nicole + booze = AWESOME

Paddy, I did know about Tennant's real name and the switch. Also, you are correct in that he's the same Time Lord, but he becomes a different Doctor when he regenerates. Most of "The Christmas Invasion" after they were teleported onto the Sycorax ship involved the Doctor trying to figure out what kind of man he was, remember? Besides the whole "new teeth, that's weird" exchange.

Now I need to go see what the butler saw. (And that supposedly Kylie Minogue sees, too.)

Is there, or is there not, a Dead Like Me movie in the works?

Posted by: Nicole at May 1, 2008 12:43 PM

Is there, or is there not, a Dead Like Me movie in the works?

That's the buzz....although with Mandy Patinkin not coming back, I'm not as excited as I should be. It's listed as being in production...and most of the cast (with the above exception) is coming back for it.

I too...own Stardust. Wonderful, wonderful movie.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 12:49 PM

PaddyDog: Peter Davison may have been the worst Doctor ever, but damn if he wasn't in a 3-way tie for my first crush ever as Tristan Farnon. Loved me some Tristan...Sigh.
Best Doctor ever: Tom Baker. I loved his scarf.

Posted by: osmate77 at May 1, 2008 12:50 PM

From Angels and Demons, it wasn't a pocket handkerchief, he escaped the helicopter by "using a window cover from the chopper as a parachute." He then plummets into the Tiber River and is "hurt, but not seriously." (Wikipedia)

APPARENTLY, using the 1 meter x 1 meter window cover-tarp-thing slows your descent by like 20% or some shit; now I'm no mathematizer, but I'm pretty sure that works out. It's science.

Posted by: Mick J at May 1, 2008 12:53 PM

Nicole, seriously, it's a date.

Dead Like Me is not Dead Like Me without Patinkin...he was the heart of that show, and I can't fathom the movie without it.

Ah Stardust. I remember seeing the trailer and thinking "Who would fucking watch this?!" The my best friend and his boyfriend saw it and he raved about it...which he rarely does. So I rented it, and behold, it is now one of my favorite movies.

"Don't worry Captain...we always knew you were a whoopsie."

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 12:53 PM

My earliest, and only exposure to Dr. Who came from Tom Baker. I didn't even understand the multiple actor thing until much...much later. Those were my Saturday morning cartoons.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 12:54 PM

"Don't worry Captain...we always knew you were a whoopsie."

HAHAHA....I still crack up at that part. Greatest...pirate captain...EVER!

From IMDB: After the departure of Rube Sofer, a new head reaper named Cameron Kane takes over. He's a slick businessman who couldn't care less about helping the newly dead. Chaos ensues and brings out the worst in Daisy and Mason who begin drinking anew. George and Reggie re-connect for the first time when George reaps a new friend of Reggie's.

Guy playing Cameron Kane: Desmond from Lost...

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0193738/

Just some useful informational trivia for my fellow geeks.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 12:59 PM

I preferred Mirrormask to Stardust. Stardust never seemed to kick into high gear for me - and why in hell would the last of the wanna-be king brothers think he could take the witch on with no kind of plan or defense or anything?

Not that I wouldn't watch it again, I just kind of liked Mirrormask better.

Posted by: twig at May 1, 2008 1:01 PM

My sister wanted to join the drill team... but she couldn't meet the weight requirement. She was a hundred pounds too light.

Posted by: Tanner at May 1, 2008 1:01 PM

Jules, we'll set it up after all the wedding nonsense has passed. (450 rhinestones! Glued by hand!)

I thought MP was leaving Criminal Minds to work on the DLM movie. You need the team dynamic.

Posted by: Nicole at May 1, 2008 1:01 PM

Sigh...I like Henry Ian Cusick a LOT. But no. I want Rube! Although anything that brings out the worst in Mason is fine by me.

Hee. DeNiro and the dead brothers are my favorite parts of Stardust.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 1:02 PM

Guy playing Cameron Kane: Desmond from Lost...

Mandy who?????

Desmond. Yummmmmm.

Posted by: Nicole at May 1, 2008 1:03 PM

I still can't believe you glued all of those rhinestones on the invites. Crazy. CRAZY! Men are so damned lucky they don't have to plan bridal showers. They are parties concocted by the devil himself and covered in tulle, bathtowels, and too-sweet frosting.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 1:06 PM

No, I'm a fickle bitch. I thought about it for more than 34 seconds and it really should be Rube. Is Cameron Kane going to use Post-its?

Posted by: Nicole at May 1, 2008 1:06 PM

I am not only fickle, but I am also a crafty bitch. Apparently my mission this weekend is to buy more tulle, because we don't have enough.

Posted by: Nicole at May 1, 2008 1:08 PM

Awww...Dead Like Me. I miss that show.

Posted by: Melody at May 1, 2008 1:11 PM

Tom Baker is definitely my favorite Dr. Who.

Never caught Eccleston in that role, but I love his Invisible Man on Heroes.

Posted by: Cindy at May 1, 2008 1:12 PM

Men are so damned lucky they don't have to plan bridal showers. They are parties concocted by the devil himself and covered in tulle, bathtowels, and too-sweet frosting.

that's why when my friends get married, I am going to order them to elope

no tulle for me!

Posted by: Bethy at May 1, 2008 1:15 PM

So I read The Da Vinci Code and thought, fluffy but fun. Then I read Angels and Demons and thought, wow, that makes The Da Vinci Code seem...plausible.

Then, having run out of books on vacation and turning to the bookshelf in the rented condo, I read Digital Fortress and thought, "Hey! A protagonist even more blindly idealistic about government agencies than Jack Ryan!"

Now that I hear about the movie of Angels and Demons, I wonder why they didn't cast McGregor as Langdon in the first movie. But it doesn't matter, because I didn't see the first movie, I won't see the second, and nothing but being stuck in a rented condo with no other books at all would get me to read another Dan Brown novel.

Posted by: KateNonymous at May 1, 2008 1:20 PM

Never caught Eccleston in that role,

Eccleston was my first Who! (I came very, very late to the party.) He got kicked up to the List of People I Want In All Movies with the quickness.

I wonder if Dead Like Me will make the top ten seasons of shows to watch list here.

Posted by: twig at May 1, 2008 1:25 PM

Thanks Jay, it was just a guess, movie used be on all the time on the weekends.

Are the old "Dr. Who" shows worth watching or just start with the new ones (9 & 10 I guess).

"Cracker" is a glorious show - some reason I keep renting all of these British police shows from Netflix. Most recent one was "Vincent" - a PI show actully, staring the ever so glorious BEOWULF.

I know i havn't been active in the comment recently but..Jules, we'll set it up after all the wedding nonsense has passed. (450 rhinestones! Glued by hand!) Seriously? glueing rhinesones on invites? Your own wedding?

Posted by: Brian at May 1, 2008 1:32 PM

Brian, my roommate is a Dr. Who fan and most of that, says she, will hinge on your imagination overcoming production values of

Posted by: twig at May 1, 2008 1:38 PM

Okay, comments does not like the 'less than' sign.

'production values of less than $5, and that's $5 by current exchange rates so... yes'

Posted by: twig at May 1, 2008 1:39 PM

Brian, Nicole is a bridesmaid...this is the shit you're expected to do when you're a girl and in a wedding party. It sucks my ass. I just finished with my sister's wedding, and I couldn't be happier.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 1:40 PM

Osmate: Totally agree on Tristan Farnon. Loved him in All Creatures Great and Small.

Twig:

The bad production values are actually an intrinsic part of the Doctor Who experience. There's a long interview with Russell Davies (which I would link to if I could find it) where he talks about his decision when he revived Who to avoid CGI as much as possible and recreate the 60s-70s feel of studio sets and extras running around in obvious alien costumes. In fact there's a scene in one of the Slitheen episodes where one can see the extra's eyes peering through the costume and Davies decided to leave it in as a nod to the fans. Seriously, most Whovians would be furious if the show suddenly went all high tech. You know all the running around in every episode? It's obligatory and we sort of like seeing them bump into the cardboard background. If there wasn't a running around scene, the BBC would be mobbed by complaints within an hour. It may be something to do with having watched it since childhood (as most people have, which is why we talk about Behind the Couch), but there's a formula to Who that must not be messed with.

You know, I really am a very well-adjusted member of society who holds down a job that involves interacting with outside clients. You do know that, don't you?

Posted by: PaddyDog at May 1, 2008 1:51 PM

Oh you all have been busy!

I'm trying to watch at least sequenced batches, like renting the "Key of Time" arc from Tom in order. With 9 and 10 I'd really recommend watching everything in order. With my friends I was pushing it on I showed them "The Runaway Bride" and a few Martha episodes since it was a clean break from Rose apart from the Doctor obviously being a bit shaken, so I got a good intro session done in a few hours. Introduces the world of the show along with a new "what the hell?!" that the companions provide. I then left them with the Eccleston and they watched the rest of my dvd's in sequence. Lately I've been bringing over freshly burned new ones straight from Mad Martha's torrents.

They DO go well with a bunch of people and a bunch of alcohol. The old cheap ones too. Tom's got a lot of charm though and nobody doesn't love Sarah Jane.

Posted by: Jay at May 1, 2008 1:55 PM

Plus, when he's saying "her name was Rose" and he hiccups a little, I was able to say to my friends, "just you wait".

Posted by: Jay at May 1, 2008 1:56 PM

Soooooo glad I don't have to get involved in that wedding nonsense.

You know, I really am a very well-adjusted member of society who holds down a job that involves interacting with outside clients. You do know that, don't you?

As much as we'd like to believe you, Paddy...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 2:12 PM

The bad production values are actually an intrinsic part of the Doctor Who experience.

Oh, I agree PaddyDog, but like Crouching Tiger wirework, Noh theatre and made-for-Sci-Fi channel movies, it's one of those things that can either add to the experience or render it completely unwatchable. I can see where people who are used to (nominally) high production values would have some trouble changing gears.

You know, I really am a very well-adjusted member of society

As far as I'm aware, Dr. Who is one of the more highly respected fandoms out there. I'm an anime dork, I only pop out occasionally to snag an Eloi.

Posted by: twig at May 1, 2008 2:13 PM

Brian, you have no idea what torments of hell I am enduring as a bridesmaid. To compensate, my aunt bought me a case of beer to keep in her fridge in the garage whilst I was over there doing this shit.

Jay, dammit, WHY did you have to quote that? I swear on the TARDIS that I am tearing up over here. He gets that catch in his throat, and it's like you can hear the tears in his voice when he answers Donna.

Y'all just have no idea how excited I am to know that my Rose Tyler is coming back. And like I said, I'm still recovering from Torchwood.

Also, Paddy is perfectly sane. And correct in the fact that RTD didn't want to get all CGI and shit because the show was never about that. The writing in "The Lonely Child" kind of gives a meta nod to that when Rose keeps asking the Doctor to "scan for alien tech" but he's all, no, let's just look around and see what's up.

Posted by: Nicole at May 1, 2008 2:15 PM

Shit, I meant to mention this also - Nine was my first Doctor. I had no interest in the series on PBS when I was a kid, but I kind of fell into it. So I'm not nearly as cool as Paddy when it comes to the background and stuff.

Posted by: Nicole at May 1, 2008 2:18 PM

Oh...she's well-adjusted because of the Who fandom? I was just speaking in general....

my Rose Tyler is coming back

What? Billie's coming back? I might start watching again for her.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 2:25 PM

Nicole:

I am so with you on Rose. Only my extreme love of the Who franchise has kept me hanging in there for the Catherine Tate eps. I loathe Catherine Tate. She is not funny. She is not talented. I don't care if the Doctor's next companion is a hmanized Dalek (how awesome would that be?), I want Catherine Tate GONE>

Posted by: PaddyDog at May 1, 2008 2:26 PM

Okay Shadows, so there was that one thread way back where I threatened to boil you in oil (I can't even remember when), but hey what's a lethal threat among Pajibans?

Posted by: PaddyDog at May 1, 2008 2:31 PM

OK so I read and disliked The DaVinci Code, but it was a quick read so whatev. Then I read the first 40 pages of Angels and Demons and could have sworn I was reading the exact same book. This movie is going to suck.

Posted by: Vince Noir at May 1, 2008 2:36 PM

At this point, Paddy, lethal threats are just another way for us all to flirt.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 2:39 PM

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The Impressive Clergyman: And wuv, tru wuv, will fowow you foweva...

The Impressive Clergyman: So tweasure your wuv.
Prince Humperdinck: Skip to the end.
The Impressive Clergyman: Have you the wing?

The Impressive Clergyman: ...and do you,Pwincess Buwwercup...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 2:40 PM

Hey baby...wanna come back to my place? I got a fully functional dungeon. With spiked chains.

What do you say...your iron maiden or mine?

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 2:46 PM

Hee hee Shadows, we kept quoting that last Saturday when we were getting ready for the wedding.

Fezzik: We face each other as God intended. Sportsmanlike. No tricks, no weapons...skill against skill alone.
Man in Black: You mean you'll put down your rock and I'll put down my sword and we'll try and kill each other like civilized people?

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 2:47 PM

has anybody read the actual book "The Princess Bride"?

the lines are spelled out in the book exactly as Shadows just typed them

it is awesome

Posted by: Bethy at May 1, 2008 2:49 PM

Wait! An iron maiden is something other than a band name? What is it?

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 2:49 PM

Bethy-me! I owned it till my girlfriend stole it. I love love LOVE that book.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 2:50 PM

I have vague, fuzzy memories of Doctor Who happening in the sitting room of my grandparents' house in Dublin when I was little, but it always seemed so boring because it was summer and I couldn't be bothered with television. I had a very busy schedule of stealing apples from the neighbours' garden and horsing around Merrion Cricket Club.

Then a couple of years ago I was dating this guy whose parents looooooved the new series and got him into it. I tried a couple of episodes, and while I really liked it, I hated Billie Piper so much that I just couldn't handle it and I stopped watching. Now it just seems like a lot of work to try to get caught up.

Posted by: Sarina at May 1, 2008 2:50 PM

Why Mr. Dakaron I'd almost think you haven't been checking the BBC site several times a week for at least a year!

Okay, maybe you haven't. Yeah, word got out that Rose was going to be part of this year in some still unknown way. And what's almost as fun is watching Russell rub his hands together and say things like "what's she doing here? Like I'm going to tell you!" in his My Favorite Jolly Gay Man In The World way he has (Russell and Phil together are a hoot for commentaries but almost drown out poor New Style Welsh Girlfriend Julie). Yes, she's here, Donna's here, Martha's here, continuity threads from the past three years are reportedly here, it's apparently building up to a King Hell climax, which I suppose is fitting as there'll only be three specials next year while David's doing theater and then a fifth season in 2010, but without David confirmed to be there.

I also find it very amusing to watch, say, "Ran" and "Throne of Blood" in their crazed Noh glory, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work. I sometimes want to live my life in that empthatic way.

Posted by: Jay at May 1, 2008 2:50 PM

[comes back from Google]

OOOHHH. That's an iron maiden. I was always horrifed at that scene in Sleepy Hollow when Ichabod's mother came bursting out of that in a river of blood, those torture devices always scared the crap out of me.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 2:52 PM

me too Julie!
so much so that I tried to steal it from the library...but my damn consious caught up with me
I swear, that thing ruins everything

and I believe an iron maiden is a device shaped like a coffin (or body-shaped box)that hinges open to reveal a whole bunch of spikes, so that when the dorr closes you get impaled some 20 or 30 times over

fun, huh?

Posted by: Bethy at May 1, 2008 2:54 PM

Julie, Julie, didn't you see Bill and Ted?

Posted by: Jay at May 1, 2008 2:54 PM

and I believe I was trying to spell the word "conscience" there.....

Posted by: Bethy at May 1, 2008 2:54 PM

I haven't seen Bill and Ted since I was really young...maybe ten years old? I wasn't a big fan back then and I honestly have no desire to ever see it again now, I never had quite the nostalgic love of it as others do. :)

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 2:57 PM

Doesn't have to be spikes...they can be roofie-filled needles...

I mean...not that I would do that...

I'm not sick and twisted at all...

[coughs nervously]

I'm...gonna go over there now...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 2:58 PM

hee!

the Boy and I have a running joke with a few of our friends about getting a six-pack of roofies (although sadly I don't think they exist), then giving the pack with only five left to a friend/aquantince/stranger in a bar with a note that you will be buying them drinks all night....

Posted by: Bethy at May 1, 2008 3:03 PM

Ah but it was a lovely scene.

"Put them in the IRON MAIDEN!"

"IRON MAIDEN!? EXCELLENT!"

Posted by: Jay at May 1, 2008 3:04 PM

My Godtopus Shadows...you are more depraved than I ever could have imagined. And that's a LOT of roofies, the poor girl would be unconscious for a week straight.

Which is the point, obviously.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 3:06 PM

"EXECUTE THEM!"

"... Bogus."

Posted by: twig at May 1, 2008 3:09 PM

[comes back from Google]

JULIE!!!!!!!! Gold stars! Gold stars of internet karma all around! May you never get goatsed by accident while shopping online!

*flowers and trumpets*

Posted by: twig at May 1, 2008 3:14 PM

Hee! I love Twig.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 3:23 PM

It's not torture unless someone's not having fun. Which means many of these reviews could be considered cruel and unusual punishment.

And I said...I'm not sick and twisted...jeez...isn't that enough of a ringing endorsement?

...ignore the whips hanging on the wall...

I wanna read The Princess Bride now ( {--that was a subtle segue...)

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 3:25 PM

I know twig endorses self-sufficiency, but her monotheism greatly disturbs me.

There is a pestilence upon this land.

Posted by: Jay at May 1, 2008 3:26 PM

I am foreseeing a mass exodeus of all copies of The Princess Bride from our local libraries...

some may not make it back safely

that is a risk I am willing to take

Posted by: Bethy at May 1, 2008 3:29 PM

Aw, Jay, I always think of you when I Google. Or use the the word Google as a verb. It is a sickness.

Shadows, [eyes your ball gag and bumpaddle from Naughty Fox], we LIKE you depraved, we wouldn't have you any other way.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 3:29 PM

Has anyone else ever had to abandon a thread for an hour or so to deal with actual salaried employment or whatever, and then come back, logged on, refreshed comments to catch up and immediately thought "what the fuck happened here while I was gone?"

Posted by: PaddyDog at May 1, 2008 3:34 PM

Let the record show that I did not start this one Paddy.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 3:36 PM

and immediately thought "what the fuck happened here while I was gone?"

In the words of Taffy Lewis: all the time, pal.

Posted by: Jay at May 1, 2008 3:38 PM

David Tennant was my first Doctor - I was visiting family in England and the Christmas Invasion was on. After that, I came home and ended up getting both Tennant series on DVD. I found Tennant to be a good doctor to start with because he's a little more whimsical and childlike. I was shocked when I started the Eccleston season after watching both Tennant seasons, Eccleston's Doctor is dark! The Dalek episode was shocking to me, it really drove home the whole traumatized war survivor aspect that Tennant spends less time on. Eccleston's Doctor didn't really grow on me until The Doctor Dances, when he was so happy at the end he really started to suck me in. But Tennant sucked me in from the first.

I think that the effects are one of the big reasons I like Doctor Who - it's why so many BBC productions have had a better shelf life than their Hollywood equivalents (The old Narnia series and Hitchikers Guide in particular). I would rather remember that it really is a kid's show and suspend my disbelief than have them blow all their money on effects and not have the writing be as good. Blink is still my favorite stand-alone episode for that exact reason, and I show it to people when they say "you're in to THAT?" in that tone of voice I'm so tired of. Zero splashy special effects, still great and scary and fun to watch.

And I have to agree on Catherine Tate, partially. I HATED her in the Runaway Bride but she is really growing on me now. I think they're doing a good job making her progressively less unlikable. I like that she doesn't take his shit and that there's not going to be any more falling-in-love-with-the-Companion BS for a while. Also, when she first meets Martha, such a great scene!

Posted by: Anne (in Reno) at May 1, 2008 3:39 PM

Jay, my friend works with a guy who has a Jiggle Billy doll that he renamed Google Billy, and he is said to run around their office with this dancing hillbilly doll telling people "Commence to Googlin'!"

How people find the strength to refrain from strangling this guy with his own entrails is utterly beyond me. If I ever meet him, I shall kick him in the nuts on your behalf. Because I'm thoughtful and generous.

Posted by: Sarina at May 1, 2008 3:39 PM

Many times, Paddy...many times. And sometimes you don't even know whether you should jump in...or cut the thread loose and just walk away, looking behind you to make sure it's not following you or tapping your phone or parked outside your window in the rain at night...waiting, watching, just looking for you to make a mistake so it can pounce and rip your still-beating heart...

Wait...what were we talking about? Oh...yes...I too get confused at the rambling directions these people take in their odd thinkings...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 3:41 PM

HEY!! I just saw this: I read Angels and Demons (and no, Goolee, you're not fooling anyone). Posted by: Nicole at May 1, 2008 8:45 AM

I. Will. Destroy you.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 3:41 PM

There is a pestilence upon this land.

Luckily it is an easily researchable pestilence.

We're more of a duel-headed pantheon anyway. The Google and The Wikipedia are friends with benefits.

Posted by: twig, avowed google-user at May 1, 2008 3:42 PM

Jiggle Billy doll

Oh GOD, my mind just went to so many bad bad places.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 3:43 PM

Julie, you ignorant slut. Jiggle Billy is from the Dumber Dolls episode of Aqua Teen. Trust me, he ain't sexy. At all.

Posted by: Sarina at May 1, 2008 3:45 PM

[cringes]

I've seen MAYBE 10 minutes of Aqua Teen. I rarely watch Adult Swim, but when I do it's for Robot Chicken and old Brak show episodes.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 3:48 PM

Damn, y'all are fast.

I don't love Donna (and cannot STAND Martha) but the Children in Need special with Tennant as the sub and Tate as Lauren Cooper? Priceless.

Martha, honey, he is just not in love with you. He's in love with ROSE. He will always be in love with Rose. Move along, off to UNIT and Torchwood you go.

Anne, I think Ten started out more whimsical but after "The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit" he got a little darker, and grew darker still after "Doomsday." If you read Jacob's recaps on TWoP, he mentions that in S3 it's as though one of the Doctor's hearts is locked up on the other side of the Void (Rose) and that the other is beating twice as fast. He realizes that he has this wrath inside of him, but the other side of that is his forgiveness (see ending of S3).

I am a nerd, y'all.

Posted by: Nicole at May 1, 2008 3:51 PM

Julie, it got pretty retarded after the first few seasons. I mean, it was always retarded, but now it's the boring, unfunny kind. I've gotten the movie from Netflix twice, but I still haven't seen it because I keep falling asleep.

Posted by: Sarina at May 1, 2008 3:52 PM

Shadows of D:

If that last comment doesn't make it into the Eloquent round-up this week, I will throw a tantrum. You have described Wayward Thread Syndrome (WTS) to a tee.


And Julie:

You may not have started this one, but you sure knew how to grab the horns and run with it.

Posted by: PaddyDog at May 1, 2008 3:55 PM

"HEY!! I just saw this: I read Angels and Demons (and no, Goolee, you're not fooling anyone). Posted by: Nicole at May 1, 2008 8:45 AM


I. Will. Destroy you.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 3:41 PM"

No, you won't. You lurve me too much. Hee!

Posted by: Nicole at May 1, 2008 3:55 PM

You have described Wayward Thread Syndrome (WTS) to a tee.

Do you think we can force them to include that in the DSM-IV? Maybe we can get government cheese or something.

Posted by: Nicole at May 1, 2008 3:57 PM

That's true Paddy, and it's one of my charms.

Nicole...yes. Yes I do. :p

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 3:58 PM

I agree with Sarina (I know, I'm shocked too)...ATHF has always had a hit-or-miss type of humor...but these newer seasons or more miss than hit. And I still haven't seen the movie...and I own it. It's so lackluster...which is awfully disappointing, since I love Frylock.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 3:59 PM

Jiggle Billy is from the Dumber Dolls episode of Aqua Teen. Trust me, he ain't sexy. At all.

I would have said the same thing about Scrabble and certain foods about a month ago. Her perversion powers are strong.

Has anyone else ever had to abandon a thread for an hour or so to deal with actual salaried employment or whatever, and then come back, logged on, refreshed comments to catch up and immediately thought "what the fuck happened here while I was gone?"

Every single day as of late, Paddy. Stupid job not allowing me internet access.

As far as the Dr. Who, quickly: started halfway through Eccleston (with a detour through the movie with Eric Roberts as the Master); current fav is Tennant; my naughty bits won't allow me to say anything negative about either Rose or Martha for some reason, but the lovey-dovey stuff is a bit annoying; seriously, they way the cast talks, you would think there were constant orgies going on and it is awesome; and that is about it.

Posted by: Vermillion at May 1, 2008 4:01 PM

Nicole:

Odd you should mention that. There is a committee at APA currently working on the update that will eventually become DSM-V. They claim that no outside force can influence the process (I asked on behalf of a client), but you know what with the Zombies and the Murder Tank and all, I think we have a different type of influence we could wield.

Posted by: PaddyDog at May 1, 2008 4:02 PM

*are* more miss than hit...curse you keyboard! Stop sabotaging me!

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 4:02 PM

This is so making me want to bust out my DWS2 DVDs and watch tonight. I do like to skip over a certain episode (*coughFrenchWhorecough*) but I just love Tennant/Piper.

And I think, if I'm correct (Jay would know) that Billie's back for a three ep arc.

Posted by: Nicole at May 1, 2008 4:03 PM

Aqua Teen Hunger Force movie? Just watch the opening. Best part of the damn thing.

Posted by: twig at May 1, 2008 4:04 PM

they way the cast talks, you would think there were constant orgies going on and it is awesome; and that is about it

Thanks, Vermillion...now that delicious image will be stuck in my head all day.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 4:05 PM

Paddy, I am intrigued by your idea. What mortal (or immortal) creature can withstand the MurderTank, I ask you??? Especially when manned by drunken Pajibans?

Posted by: Nicole at May 1, 2008 4:06 PM

well, I was going to post something about how I always thought The Brak Show, Sealab and Robot Chicken were the superior Adult Swim shows...but it seems that part of the thread has been left far behind....

what are we talking about now? Wayward Thread Syndrome? MurderTank sprees? orgies?

I can't keep up!

Posted by: Bethy at May 1, 2008 4:08 PM

Vermillion, I think that's half the reason I'm enjoying this season so much, I'm in it for the fun more than the sexual tension and since that whole Last Temptation of the Doctor bit in The Family Of Blood I just get too sad watching the Doctor fall in love now. Orgies, though, that just makes me jealous.

And Nicole, you didn't like Reinette? I totally bawled at the end of that ep. when he went back and read her letter.

Posted by: Anne (in Reno) at May 1, 2008 4:10 PM

Vermillion, I blame 17 years of Catholic school.

The only creature I can imagine withstanding the MurderTank is a Cylon...and that's because they reincarnate AND because I'm a huge nerd.

[takes out contacts, puts on glasses and Pajiba tee, turns on Buffy, and begins humming the theme song from Battlestar Galactica

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 4:13 PM

Julie, you do realize you just turned on 95% of the Pajiba male population, right?

I would start locking your doors at night if I were you....

Posted by: Bethy at May 1, 2008 4:15 PM

one of the Doctor's hearts is locked up on the other side of the Void (Rose) and that the other is beating twice as fast. He realizes that he has this wrath inside of him, but the other side of that is his forgiveness (see ending of S3).

Heavy, man!

But I like it.

The end of "The Runaway Bride" was sure "look, it is NOT a good time to be fucking with me". I love that Dutch angle with the water and red light and all. As good as "I saw it happen. I MADE it happen". Ooh, that one gives me the goosebumps too.

Yes, Rose....um.....has a three episode arc. If I know anything more than that I'm not saying cause some people might not have seen any of the current episodes yet. But just go and watch them already!

Sarina, I think I mentioned Jiggle Billy...yesterday? The instant I read what you wrote I almost had to cover my mouth to hold in a scream of laughter. As it was I just shook and wheezed. If only he was kidding, as you seem to be implying that he wasn't, since that's kinda how I view their search dominance. Either way, a mental image to cherish. Thanks!

I don't know why I have these goggles.

Posted by: Jay at May 1, 2008 4:17 PM

well, I was going to post something about how I always thought The Brak Show, Sealab and Robot Chicken were the superior Adult Swim shows...but it seems that part of the thread has been left far behind....

Nothing's too far behind to be left behind...er...something like that...I LURVE Robot Chicken and SeaLab...not so much Brak. And Metalocalypse is awesome

you do realize you just turned on 95% of the Pajiba male population, right?

Impossible. My innocent, nerdy, inexplicably pale Julie? Besides...haven't you read the census? 95% of the male Pajibite population is...like...six people.

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 4:22 PM

I would start locking your doors at night if I were you....

No, nononononoooo, don't listen to that silly billy. We are quite harmless and gentle.

Oh wait. This IS Julie. yeah, we will prbably and your and then while we flip you over and two, maybe three times. Your will be so ed up, I tell you. You might want to get a special shampoo for that part.

P.S. I may or may not have shed a tear over Reinette. All I know is, I TOTALLY understand why that actress and Tennant started rocking the phone box after they filmed that episode.

Posted by: Vermillion at May 1, 2008 4:23 PM

95% of the male Pajibite population is...like...six people.

If Dustin hadn't outed me, I'd still be passing. Everyone says I track to 'dude' on the Internets.

Posted by: twig at May 1, 2008 4:24 PM

Wow, that so wasn't what I was trying to say. I was putting bleeps in there, but I used the ">", and it must have read them as HTML and cut them out.

That looks really, really creepy doesn't it?

Posted by: Vermillion at May 1, 2008 4:25 PM

I thought you meant to do that, Vermillion...it does look really creepy...yet strangely appropriate...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 4:31 PM

HA HA HA! Vermillion, I still knew what you were getting at :P

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 4:31 PM

Shadows-jinx! Almost.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 4:32 PM

Everyone says I track to 'dude' on the Internets.

Then how did I know? I'm awful at that. Weird. Maybe you just remind me of the women I know.

While I was sad that Cartoon Planet just vanished into oblivion I thought The Brak Show reached some crazy peaks here and there.

P.S. I may or may not have shed a tear over Reinette. All I know is, I TOTALLY understand why that actress and Tennant started rocking the phone box after they filmed that episode.

And then the tabloids got to all say "Doctor Dumps" when he broke it off (reportedly he said "I'm working in Wales, you're working on Hollywood, shit's untenable").

Posted by: Jay at May 1, 2008 4:37 PM

Hehehe...great minds...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 4:39 PM

Vermillion:

First I completely agree on the lovey-dovey crap. In fact Family of the Blood would be so much more powerful (and it was already pretty strong) if there had been a greater contrast between The Doctor, the man falling in love versus The Doctor, the time lord who is really only capable of falling in love with the human race.

On your other comment with the missing bleeps, Godtopus forgive me, but it read to me as if you were....well you know, while typing.

Posted by: PaddyDog at May 1, 2008 4:44 PM

Hee hee...this "You might want to get a special shampoo for that part" was my favorite line, because I can only imagine what V originally wrote before that.

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 4:46 PM

but it read to me as if you were....well you know, while typing.

Naw, that couldn't be it...men have mastered the art of typing with one hand.

...I mean...that's what I've heard...

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 4:51 PM

...I mean...that's what I've heard...

Ahem...oh really Shadows? :p

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 4:55 PM

Shadows:

If that were true, offices around the world would be equipped with paper towels and lubricant.

Posted by: PaddyDog at May 1, 2008 5:02 PM

Sure they are...aren't they? Is that why my boss keeps giving me funny looks when I go for a fresh roll?

Posted by: Shadows of Dakaron at May 1, 2008 5:09 PM

Brian, you have no idea what torments of hell I am enduring as a bridesmaid. To compensate, my aunt bought me a case of beer to keep in her fridge in the garage whilst I was over there doing this shit.

Damm, that sounds awful. Al I did is went out for steaks with the groom and some friends. What kind of beer? Also, does the artistic level of the rhinestonig go up or down as you drink the beer? Because of the combo of glue fumes and bee do you start to sing "I'm a Rhinestonig Cowboy" If so, is there video?

Posted by: Brian at May 1, 2008 6:02 PM

Naw, that couldn't be it...men have mastered the art of typing with one hand.

Does having lunch at my desk count?

Posted by: Brian at May 1, 2008 6:03 PM

On your other comment with the missing bleeps, Godtopus forgive me, but it read to me as if you were....well you know, while typing.

Wow. I am quite offended PaddyDog. It has been quite some time since I did that, madam, and I do not appreciate the insinuation.

*pulls up pants and storms out*

But as to the first part, that is exactly what I mean. Part of the reason I love Tennant as the Doctor is because he shows real, palatable enthusiasm, especially when he talks about how much he loves humanity. When he says it, it actually gives me a bit of species pride before the news networks crush it again.

And the romance angle is great fodder for drama (I may or may not have cried during School Reunion as well), but it is grating that it is the same "moony-eyed lonely girl" deal over and over. Then again, it is the freaking Doctor. How could a normal human NOT fall in love with him?

Naw, that couldn't be it...men have mastered the art of typing with one hand.

It is the attempts at "Look Ma, No Hands!!!" that get looks.

There is so, so, soooo much wrong with that last line.

Posted by: Vermillion at May 1, 2008 6:19 PM

"Part of the reason I love Tennant as the Doctor is because he shows real, palatable enthusiasm, especially when he talks about how much he loves humanity. When he says it, it actually gives me a bit of species pride before the news networks crush it again."

Aw, Vermillion: I take everything back. That is a beautiful sentiment.

Posted by: PaddyDog at May 1, 2008 6:39 PM

All right, I'm going to try to catch up again, because I HAD TO GO BUY TULLE. Fucking JoAnn Fabrics.

Jay, definitely heavy, but like I said, I'm just paraphrasing Jacob from TWoP. And WORD to the scene in "Runaway Bride" when he busts out the fact that he is a TIME LORD from GALLIFREY and will FUCK YOUR SHIT UP!!!

I told you all I was a geek.

And Nicole, you didn't like Reinette? I totally bawled at the end of that ep. when he went back and read her letter.

Anne, no, because she was a nasty ho. No, the truth is that I'm such a Doctor/Rose shipper that it burned my eyes. Ok, I admit it; the "slow path" thing puts a teeny tiny crack in my tarry heart.

And Jay's right, they did break up because of the long distance thing (NERD ALERT OVER HERE) and now rumor has it he's rocking the box with Kylie Minogue. (Voyage of the Damned)

V, you're getting your own paragraph because what you wrote was awesome and I didn't want to chop it up:

But as to the first part, that is exactly what I mean. Part of the reason I love Tennant as the Doctor is because he shows real, palatable enthusiasm, especially when he talks about how much he loves humanity. When he says it, it actually gives me a bit of species pride before the news networks crush it again.

And the romance angle is great fodder for drama (I may or may not have cried during School Reunion as well), but it is grating that it is the same "moony-eyed lonely girl" deal over and over. Then again, it is the freaking Doctor. How could a normal human NOT fall in love with him?

Tennant, to me, just seems like a big overgrown (sexyhot) kid who is having a ball with being The Doctor, which is what he decided he wanted to be when he was like five years old.

I found Rose to be more moony-eyed in S1, but not S2. I mean, she looked into the heart of the TARDIS! That's uber-Companion stuff right there. At the same time that she was becoming more than a Companion, the Doctor was becoming more...human-ish. I am so annoyed because I'm trying to figure out how to say it and I can't.

No, I just figured it out! To me, Rose was the person who helped him begin to heal after the Time War. And she showed him that he didn't have to be alone. ("How long are you gonna stay with me?" "Forever.") But he opened himself up to her, and I think really, truly fell in love, but now his guard is up again because he can't risk that kind of pain. As far as he knows, he'll never see that face or hold that hand again, and he has to rebuild the wall that Rose smashed down.

Finally, Brian, it was Miller Lite because that's how we roll in NE Philly. I am proud to say that my gluing skillz are not hampered by six beers in the slightest way.

Posted by: Nicole at May 1, 2008 8:30 PM

It warms my heart to see evidence of Dr. Who and Torchwood love from Pajibans. I'm waiting for my finals to be over so I can have a drunken Torchwood marathon with some people and get all turned on when Jack and Ianto make out. Because I'm really terrible at this lesbian thing I've got going.

Speaking of finals, there are still a few students running around this site, right? There should be some kind of "What's good for you" list regarding post-finals decompression. I call for thoroughly stupid entertainment, but nothing as fully bad as hangover theatre. Suggestions?

Posted by: sharon at May 1, 2008 10:37 PM

Hey hey, spoilers!


No, I'm kidding, Torchwood seems to be as bad as The Authority for community boffing so it's not surprising.

Posted by: Jay at May 1, 2008 10:41 PM

Sharon, my roomates did a similar decompression while I was taking my finals. If I recall correctly, this made me miss The Little Mermaid, Clueless, and something totally out there like Pi. I never understood how they chose those three.

Posted by: Anne (in Reno) at May 1, 2008 11:33 PM

Ooh ooh! Sharon, remembering my days of finals (god that was SIX years ago)...I would go with any of the Pixar films, ANY Muppet movie, Bring it On (it has pretty girls! and Kirsten Dunst!), or a Friends marathon.

Don't JUDGE me. Friends was great for a solid six seasons, and my girlfriends and I used to tape (TAPE!) the reruns and play them allll day. We...were demented.

Ross: "What was Monica's nickname as a field hockey goalie?"
Joey: "Big Fat Goalie!"
Ross: "...that is correct."

Posted by: Julie at May 1, 2008 11:38 PM

Oh hush Jay, that's no spoiler. It's a given.

Anna, that is the weirdest combination I've ever heard. Ever.

I think my decompression will start with some dance movies (Fast Forward, Girls Just Wanna Have Fun) and move into something by Disney. Something that I love, like . . . The Sword in the Stone. Just because. There's a sword, and it's in a stone. And I love the magic duel and Merlin turns into a virus and, and, yeah. I'm so sleepy.

And I am completely not allowed to watch Happy Feet. Depending on my hormonal status I will cry like a toddler who's been orphaned on a holiday. And if I'm still stressed from writing really long papers, well then I just might kill myself looking at that damn baby penguin who ISN'T ALLOWED TO DANCE. Are we seeing a dance theme here?

And maybe I'll watch Idle Hands because it still cracks me up every, single, time.

Posted by: Sharon at May 1, 2008 11:43 PM

In fact, these are the rules that I am suggesting for my hypothetical list of End of Semester Decompression Movies.
They have to be kind of easy, because our little brains are taxed and oozing from our ears. BUT they have to have some element of cleverness and wit. Otherwise, how can we feel superior about being in school? This goes double for grad students--we like feeling superior but projecting that much douche-baggery on a daily basis is exhausting.

Posted by: sharon at May 1, 2008 11:48 PM

As I'm recovering from my first year of school. (Took my last final today) I completely agree with that idea, something fun without being completely brainless. But I Swear to the Lord If I See Nic Cage I Will Kill Him! *Ahem* Something about frat-boys trying to convince me of his awesomeness has really made my small sprout of rage against him into a great sycamore of complete abhoration. So dumb, but not Nic Cage dumb.
(And Since this post is too long anyways, This one's for Julie)
Ross: Every week the T.V Guide is delivered to Chandler and Joey's apartment, what name is on the address label.
Rachel: Ooh! It's Chandler, It's Chandler Bing!
Ross: I'm afraid the TV guide comes to Chanandler Bong.
Chandler: Actually, It's MISS Chanandler Bong.
My favorite episode.

Posted by: Tyranthesaurus Rex at May 2, 2008 12:31 AM

Tyrnathesaurus...mine too! :)

Rachel: He's a transpond...transpondster!
Monica: That's not even a word!

Posted by: Julie at May 2, 2008 12:36 AM

Oh Julie and Tyranthesaurus . . . no judgment here. Friends (in the first few seasons or so) was funny. Just like Roseanne before they went and won the damn lottery.
Speaking of sitcoms that are no longer, I miss Head of the Class. A show! About gifted students! And I coveted Sloane's red, wavy hair for years. I still kind of do.

Hey Dustin! I think we have at least 3 votes for a new comment diversion here. And 3 . . . is the magic number.

Posted by: Sharon at May 2, 2008 2:39 AM

I miss Adult Swim. Sealab was my fave, and Home Movies, and Robot Chicken. And I have just found Frisky Dingo, and it is thoroughly AWESOME. If you haven't yet seen it, check it out.

Posted by: Loob at May 2, 2008 3:30 AM

just a lurker peeking my head out to share the Dr. Who love. I believe that Tennant's real last name is MacDonald, not McArdle. If anyone would like to see some full-frontal Ten:

http://img204.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=81346_butler-6_123_475lo.jpg

Perhaps I should mention that this picture might not be fit for work. Unless you work in a sex shop or in the New York state government, in which case, enjoy.

Posted by: invisible ladybug at May 2, 2008 4:52 AM

Invisible Ladybug:
You are correct about McDonald versus McArdle. It's called a Freudian slip. I was just e-mailing someone about lager at the same time I was posting.

Posted by: PaddyDog at May 2, 2008 9:01 AM

That is true, I didn't catch it either because I just kind of skimmed over the "Mc" part, since I knew he had to change his name.

Thanks for the picture!!!

Posted by: Nicole at May 2, 2008 12:31 PM


















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