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Is The Fourth Kind a Hoax?

By Dustin Rowles | Posted Under Trade News | Comments (62)



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Over the last month or so, you may have seen the somewhat effective trailers for The Fourth Kind (I know that ads for the movie has appeared frequently on this site). It’s a marginally compelling trailer, put together in what looks like a very misleading way. Milla Jovovich, who stars in the movie as a shrink, appears as herself, claiming that she stars as a psychiatrist in the “dramatization of events that occurred October 2000.” Moreover, she claims, “Every scene in this movie is supported by archive footage.” After that, the trailer alternates between the “dramatization” of events using actors, and what we are led to believe is actual archive footage of the actual thing, essentially suggesting that these people in Nome, Alaska, have been abducted by aliens.

But while the marketing suggests the movie is based on actual cases, no such cases are ever specified, and so far as we know, that “archival footage” is also the work of the filmmakers. It’s smart. But by most accounts, it’s complete bullshit.

Do a little research, and it turns out the the psychiatrist, Dr. Abigal Taylor, didn’t actually exist, nor has there been much in the way of alien abduction reports in Nome, Alaska. (A search for the shrink turns up a website that is clearly fake, registered to a proxy, and only recently created). Although, there is the possibility that the names and the setting were changed, but who are we kidding? It’s an alien abduction movie. It’s also filmed in Bulgaria, and not Nome.

There were claims to suggest that a serial killer was involved in the more-than-average numbers of disappearances in Nome (24 missing persons and/or suspicious deaths), but a little more research suggests that that possibility has been ruled out by the FBI. So, it must have been aliens, right? Or maybe it was the fact that these people lived in freakin’ Nome, Alaska, where the alcoholism rate is high and the climate is harsh. Moreover, some of those cases have been solved, and alcohol seems to be a contributing factor.

In addition, if the archive footage is real, there’s nothing really to suggest a link to Nome, and the people in the footage may simply be straight-up nutters (and are we really going to believe a man levitated, and that there was a camera there to capture it?). The biggest problem, however, in attempting to get to the bottom of the hoax is that so many people have now seen the trailer, so many of them are so willing to believe, and of course, it’s those people that dominate Internet forums, so the actual truth is obscured by hundreds of UFO enthusiasts (and, likely, studio plants) contributing white noise to the issue. It doesn’t make it impossible to get to the bottom of it through simple Internet research, but it does make it burdensome and very likely way too much trouble for the average moviegoer, who is likely to be swayed by the bullshit suggestion in the trailer.

In either respect, it’s a smart marketing campaign. Outside of the trailer, no one from the studio is really trying to convince an audience that the events are true; they simply remain hush about it, and allow the wackjobs to do all their legwork. And when the state newspaper in Anchorage attempted to disprove the suggested facts in the movie, the studio smartly had “no comment,” and inexplicably, that newspaper was unable to definitively rule out the events of the movie, as there still remains a mystery surrounding the disappearances of some Nome citizens. All of which leaves a very, very tiny possibility that the events of the film are true, and it is that infinitesimal possibility that the filmmakers are exploiting.









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Comments

The bigger hoax is that I'm supposed to take MILLAMILLAMILLAMILLA seriously as an actor.

My buddy said he got a better reaction out of the crowd by holding up his ID and bellowing "LEELOO DALLAS MULTI-PASS!" at her during the end of that serial-killer honeymoon whatever thing than any other scene in the movie.

Posted by: D-Day at October 30, 2009 11:25 AM

THIS IS A TRUE STORY. The events depicted in this film took place in Minnesota in 1987 Alaska in 2000. At the request of the survivors, the names have been changed. Out of respect for the dead, the rest has been told exactly as it occurred.

Posted by: Yossarian at October 30, 2009 11:25 AM

LEELOO DALLAS MULTI-PASS!

Awesome! I wish I could have been there. I think all of Milla's movies should end with someone in the crowd jumping up to say that. It would make for a better moviegoing experience. I'm going to try it next time I see one of her movies in San Diego.

Posted by: James at October 30, 2009 12:45 PM

You can see Bulgaria from your front porch in Nome.

Or so I've heard.

Posted by: , (TCFKAB) at October 30, 2009 1:03 PM

It'll work. Just don't forget to hold up your ID at the screen for max effect.

It should work pretty well at a movie like this, where the crowd should get the reference. I'm sure there will be a moment near the end where there's some barely audible music and her face is slightly off-profile, mouth agape. This will be your chance to strike, grasshoppa.

Also good for drive through fast food lines.

Posted by: D-Day at October 30, 2009 1:13 PM

I'm all for making fiction appear real. Its hard to do and it shows creative skill. Let the wackjobs spread the lies

Posted by: Malon at October 30, 2009 1:36 PM

Do you remember when Milla had a music career in the mid 90s? Well, she was performing at a music festival (Zephyrfest RULED!!) and she was kind of whiny and annoying and complaining about the smell and the entire audience starting making fun of her.
I laughed my ass off.

Posted by: myysharona (formerly Sharon) at October 30, 2009 2:15 PM

LEELOO DALLAS MULTI-PASS!!

This wins Pajiba this week.

Posted by: Fredo at October 30, 2009 3:48 PM

My brother turned to me after seeing this trailer and asked "Have you read about this?" He knows I research crazy stuff like this all the time with a particular interest in UFO encounters and possessions (oh the weeks I spent going through actual writings on Emily Rose, nee Annalise Michaels, in anticipation of that film). I racked my brain for three days straight trying to remember anything from Nome, Alaska. I had nothing.

I went through all my usual starting points for research. Nothing.

I went beyond those into gigantic library databases (like Lexis-Nexis and GaleGroup). Nothing.

I went beyond the stuff mentioned in the film and found the same info on the murders in Nome, Alaska. Nothing on aliens/possessions/sexy psychiatrists.

I don't want to scream hoax, but I won't be surprised if it's revealed to all be fake. I'll let my brother be the judge of that. I don't question shit when he suggests going to a horror film and agrees to pay.

Posted by: Robert at October 30, 2009 4:12 PM

If the fourth kind of alien encounter is abduction, what the hell are the other three?

Posted by: Jeni at October 30, 2009 4:29 PM

Jeni, the other three kinds of encounters are:

Close Encounter of the First Kind: Seeing a UFO in the sky
Second Kind: Seeing evidence of a UFO, like crop circles
Third Kind: Seeing an alien
Fourth: Being abducted

There's also a Fifth, but I don't really understand the definition. I think it's when you have an alien love child, like Suri Cruise.

Posted by: Lindsay at October 30, 2009 4:54 PM

"I don't want to scream hoax, but I won't be surprised if it's revealed to all be fake"

The topic at hand is alien abductions. Alien. Abductions. ALIEN AB-FUCKING-DUC-FUCKING-TIONS! I think you're allowed to go out on a limb (trust me, it's thick and welcoming.... ahem) and denounce it as fake.

Posted by: bendiagram at October 30, 2009 9:38 PM

If these gall-brickers are gonna tell me this is based on a true story, then what's to prevent me from suing them for libel when I cite their "case studies" for my peer review journals?

Motherfuckers!

Also I will admit I thought this was real. Not the alien abduction crap I haven't gone full retard, but maybe some weird shit did happen up there. I mean c'mon, it is Sarah Palin country after all.

Posted by: D-Day at October 31, 2009 12:28 PM

I had a grand ole time when I saw a screening of this with a wimp friend of mine. Convinced her it was real (it didn't take much convincing, really: "Is this real footage?!" "Um, yeah?" "OMIGOD") until the bit with the guy in the bed almost made her cry.

I felt bad, but not enough to stop myself from giggling for a few minutes.

Posted by: Mimi at October 31, 2009 10:58 PM

I'm confused. Are you reviewing the movie or just bitching about the marketing scheme?

Posted by: fitzwilly at October 31, 2009 11:12 PM

yeah, i was wondering that too. i hadnt heard anything about it before getting a chance to see a preview screening (though my buddy is convinced we saw the trailer) and i found it really scary. i'm not a believer but it did make me think about the what-if. and its a scary question, and the movie shows how scary it is to be helpless. the "real" footage was cool and i bought it but have been reading about it after and i guess some of it has been questioned but is it different than any other based-on-a-true-story? ddnt change my experience.

Posted by: BenGrimm at November 1, 2009 4:02 PM

Clearly fake though the "based on true accounts" stuff is, that is one seriously well-done trailer. *shivers*

Posted by: Shay at November 1, 2009 5:09 PM

Of course its a hoax; everything involving ufos and aliens is, unfortunately, a hoax. I don't find that particularly annoying though. What does annoy me is that they've decided to advertise it in such a way as to drive all the nutters out there deeper into their nutter.

When you consider the justification for insanity that stuff like this puts out there, all to sell a movie, you really start to long for the days when ad-men just wanted us to believe cigarettes turned us into cowboys.

Posted by: Julian at November 1, 2009 5:45 PM

Of course it's a hoax, but who cares? If we have to deal with movie marketing, might as well make it fun.

Posted by: Daniel Hall at November 1, 2009 8:12 PM

Oh and I'd like to add (because the internet is the place where un-asked-for opinions go to die) that aliens aren't scary and that trailer made me laugh.

Posted by: bendiagram at November 1, 2009 9:15 PM

I find it weird that you're even discussing whether this is a hoax or not.

Hey...you guys know Blair Witch wasn't real either, right?

Posted by: ameagari at November 3, 2009 5:50 AM

Real or not, this movie is scary as F***. I saw a preview in Houston a couple days ago and we were all scared out of my minds. I didn't ask who was a believer and who wasn't but all the screams - that sounded pretty real to me. And I guess I hate being able to sleep because I am going again on Saturday.

Posted by: salamander at November 5, 2009 6:40 PM

these people spend the time and money to make a movie to entertain you so shut the fuck up ad enjoy it. why do you care if it's real or not?

I dont really believe it but I still thought it was a good movie.
and something must be real about it, i watched the credits like a hawk and they didnt say a damn thing or credit any other actors. so maybe theyre just dirty liars but its about time someone made a movie like that and didnt blow it for you in the credits.
You skeptics should be ashamed of yourselves for bashing people who made this movie.

Posted by: RIDGE at November 20, 2009 12:08 PM

i have liked all your sugestion even if it is unbelivable

Posted by: ttamerat at February 23, 2010 9:26 AM

i have liked all your trilers even if it is unbelivable,if it is real i am sure that they are not that much haremful ,rathr they are hospitable

Posted by: ttamerat at February 23, 2010 9:29 AM

...any movie that makes you wonder if the events are real or could happen are exactly what superior movie-making is all about (The Exorcist or recent 'cinema verite' like Cloverfield / Quarantine)...and this movie, I had to admit, was superb in this genre...So it really matters less if the events depicted were real than it was how they did THE MOVIE that made you believe it's true.

Posted by: Bond007 at March 18, 2010 11:53 PM

Do i need to remind you all that four legged freaks also said it was based on a true story..

Posted by: Sophie at March 23, 2010 9:51 AM

Where I live. There was a reported sighting of several UFO's...the multi lights in the sky kind... and the guy that reported it... killed himself and his wife three months later...

Posted by: Sister at March 27, 2010 7:38 PM

It did happen in Nome.. it is still happening in Nome. We are visted by aliens and they study us.

Just like how we abuduct animals ourselves and tag them.

These particular aliens are God less... evil..

Posted by: Chester at March 27, 2010 7:42 PM

Fake. I am from Nome and that never happened. Google Charolet Milchard the ACTRESS who plays Dr. Abigail Taylor. Nome doesn't have trees. And if People dissapeard it's because they got smashed and road their snow machine into the OCEAN.

Posted by: Tai Karluck at April 4, 2010 11:15 PM

this movie is a hoax if this was a real documentation they could have gotten someone better than milla jovovich, elias koteas, and will patton to star in this movie. MILLA IS VERY CLOSE TO THE WORST ACTRESS IN HOLLYWOOD. IM RACKING MY BRAIN TRYING TO THINK OF A WORSE ACTRESS. SHE REALLY OUGHT TO CALL IT A CAREER AND GIVE PORN A SHOT.

Posted by: ronaldinho at April 6, 2010 5:20 AM

If ths stuff interests you, look into the Phoenix lights. Happened roughly ten years ago. That aint no hoax. There is a recent documentary on it. Will seriously make you question whether we are alone.

Posted by: ronaldinho at April 6, 2010 5:25 AM

Are u fuckin kidding me? ur calling people who beleive in aliens wackjobs? U SHOULD BE FUCKIN SHOT..what do u believe? that some "god" floats down on a cloud and answers ur prayers? that a VIRGIN MARY JUST GOT KNOCKED UP...OUT OF NOWHERE? and jesus OMG jesus seriously? HES A FUCKIN WACKJOB...besides the bible THERES NO OTHER TRACE OF HIM AT ALL besides the bible AND U BELIEVE THAT?????????? BUT U CALL ME CRAZY FOR BELIEVING IN A HIGHER INTELLIGENCE IN A GALAXY THAT WE CANT EEVEN FIND THE END OF?????all the bible is , is a fuckin set of guidelines..TOO KEEP U STUCK IN UR FUCKIN BOX...BUT RIGHT IM FUCKIN CRAZY...but ur storys true CUZ U KNOWW RIGHT? just cuz somebody else fell for the same trick.....oh and by the way theres plenty of evidence that a higher intelligence was her before us....for example. THE PYRAMIDS...they had electricty back in the day U KNOW WHY cuz HOW WOULD U CARVE STONE IN THE DARK? ESPECIALLY DEEP ENOUGH IN THE PYRAMIDS WHERE A FLAME DOESNT EVEN HAVE ENOUGH OXYGEN TO STAY LIT? BUT IM CRAZY RIGHT? HAHAHHAHa have fun in ur box....OH AND WHAT GIVES THE POPE THE RIGHT 2 WEAR A FUCKIN DRESS AND RAPE LITTLE BOYS? and all AND WRITTEN IN HYROGLYPICS THE HUMANS EVEN SAY " the pyramids were build by humans with help from the GODS OF THE SKYS" and the fact that anciet people could build a huge pyramid in 10 years????? the ancient people build huge structuerE WITHOUT MORTAR or cement at all that fit PERFECTLY ALIGNED...WE COULDNT EVEN DO THAT NOW or it would be INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT but right ..back even before "christ" haha they had perfect maps of land NOW HOW WOULD U GET THAT????? a perfect map of what the land was WITH LONGTITUDE AND LATTITUDE..but of course ur 2 blind and u just call that a coincidence....ur all pathetic......maybe thae movie was fake im not disagreeing with u..but to call the people who believe in aliens WACKJOBS ur stuck in a whole with a book GET OVER URSELF....oh AND THE BEST PART Is.....oh and THAT MAP I WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS MADE BEFORE ANTARCTICA WAS FROZEN....that was a LONG time ago....OH im sorry i take that back THIS IS THE BEST PART....in the naska desert of peru....countless geometric figures are all over the plateau...and they're all HUGE designs that u can ONLY see from the sky..pictures of monkeys,apes,spiders..that are HUGe and u can only see it from the sky..BUT EVERYBODY HAD PLANES BACK BEFORE CHRIST HAHAHAHAHHAHHA?????? oh and it just happens to be the largest plain of resources we have..GOLD,URANIUM its basically the cliff notes of planet earth..all raw materical..oh AND there's a moutain that is LITTERALLY cut flat....and is shapped like a runway..but heres my question WHERE'S THE REST OF THE MOUTAIN.>THERES NO RUBBLE OR REMAIN OF THE SUMMIT OF THE MOUTAIN..NOWHERE NOT EVEN IN THE SAME REIGON BUT EVERY OTHER MOUTAIN HAS A SUMMIT..but right im still fuckin crazy hahahhahaha HAVE FUN IN UR BOX IM GONNA FIND THE ANSWER 2 LIFE..BUT THE BEST PART IS ALL THE PROOF IS HERE...U SAY SHOW ME THE PROOF...IN THE FLESSH....WELL I ASK U THE SAME QUESTIon..U HAVE A LITTLE BOOK...created by Gods" apostles or whateveR" lol riiiiight WHERES UR PROOF WHERES UR IN THE FLESH??? i believe in the bible it says " if u dont believe in the evil, thats the devil inside u telling u its not reaL" or somethin like that.....NO TELL ME THATS NOT TYRANNY????//IF U DONT BELIEVE IN GOD THATS THE DEVIL INSIDE U??/TO FORCE U TO BELIEVE IN A RELIGON..UR PATHETIC IN UR OWN WAY..RELIGON AND THE BELIEF OF GOD HAS KILLED MORE PEOPLE THEN DISEASE MURDER AND SUICIDE..AIDS UR ALL FUCKIN STUPID...have fun being trapped in ur box...and ENOK wasnt in the bible..but hes mentioned...the great granfather of noah..was the only person who wrote I WAS THERe,I WAS ABDUCTED,I SAW IT ALL...the ONly person in eternity to WROTE in the first person,and thats THOUSANDS of years ago...but heres my question for UUUU anybody who reas this and calls pure bullshit on me....The fact of aliens is that people believe that they came down and gave us the tools....the belief in god or at leat the "bible" is just on how to live....BUT IF THERES A GOD why WOULD HE NOT HELP US??im not talkin about now cuz we can do it ourselves..but back then 10's of thousands of years ago because back then THEY WERE EVEN SMARTER THEN ALL OF US..THEY USED CONSTELATIONS TO FIND THERE WAY AROUND IN PURE DARK...THEY'RE NO CITY LIGHTS PERFECT BUILDING WHY WOULD UR "god" NOT HELP THE HUMAN RACE BACK THEN???lol like said before...have fun in ur box HAHAHAHHAHHa..because OBVIOUSLY somebody was soo moved THEY HAD to write about it THEY HAD to write it down THAT THEY SAW THIS....but ur little virgin mary bullshits all true hahaha and u BLIEVE THAT...but im crazy hahahhahahahahhahahha im sure the government knows about aliens to but they want 2 people to live in a box..cux people wouLD DEMAND to know the truth..oh ONE FINAL THING...WHEN U THANK GOD FORSOMETHINg like an accomplishment or something like that ur really just thanking urself...no god is helping u...ur just making ur mind believe its god when ur doing it urself...i could thank god and i would have the confidence to do anything but in all reality its juts me and how i present myself or accomplish something...im telling myself someone else is helping but im just doing it myself and ive realized that..i dont need to believe in some "god" to get help for something i can do it myself u just look to a higer power for help when all u need is just keep a level head and believe wats real and actually around u instead of something u or anybody else have never seen..i may not have the real deal proof...but i GOT MORE THEN THE CHURCH DOES...all u guys got is a fuckin lil book...i have lets see..huge pyramids..petro and hyroglypics that depict paintings and depictions of EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE ALL OVER THE WORLD...lol WRITTEN IN STONe compared to a book some guys thought up to keep people in order HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH PATHETIC

Posted by: colin at April 9, 2010 11:13 PM

Very nice fiction. Some people believed. I think, that the creators wanted to make believe and interested. They achieved aims. Me too, as soon as I finished watching, I went to the Internet.

Posted by: mikibu at April 27, 2010 10:01 AM

Damn colin, do you have to write a fucking booK about it? Btw there are a bunch of other references to jesus in history, maybe you should spend less time writing on forums and more time trying to get in a damn college, why don't you drive yourself to roswell and scream up at the aliens to come take you off this planet so we can have one less retard in the U.S.

Posted by: carrington at May 3, 2010 1:28 AM

Oh yeah and colin, learn to fucking spell, too and to are TWO different words dumbass, you honestly think the pyramids were put here by aliens? Are you a fucking scientologist or something? I can't believe that not only are you dumb enough to believe in aliens but your dumb enough to believe they give a shit about humans. For example those designs you were talking about in peru, why the fuck would they build those retard? And if they don't want us to know about them and they are so damn smart, then why would they do something so blatantly obvious like build huge pyramids and designs that leave evidence that they were here? Like I said you need to check out some higher education. When you talk like that, you just enforce the opinion of whoever called you a whackjob, you and the aliens can go whack each other off and talk about how much smarter you are than all the religious people,

Posted by: carrington at May 3, 2010 2:50 PM

Colin is right everyone. All my research has proven the same.

Posted by: aaron at May 12, 2010 1:33 AM

You know the facts are true I've been writing a book on these situations. My studies have lead me to nome and it's no where to be fucking around so watch your mouth and keep your bullshit lies to yourself.

Posted by: Jason at May 17, 2010 1:11 PM

Err... aaron, you really went and looked up all colin's ranting? Sounds more like you just used a different name to try and make it look like you are someone else agreeing with you.
-However- Some of the things colin ranted about are out there, and are unexplained as to physically how it was possible ( due to technological impairments ) to create or do certain things. Like seriously? The pyramids are a testament to one of two things: another race/civilization with incredible cunning -or- serious perfectionism to the 100th degree...
I haven't heard of those animal markings in peru, I might end up looking it up later. And as far as "God"..... heh.... the bible is a book to teach children and remind adults proper ways to behave. Just a fictional set of stories designed to assist people in living prosperous, respectful lives.

Posted by: John at May 18, 2010 4:19 AM

Scared the willies out of me

Posted by: Peter at May 19, 2010 6:36 AM

Yeah... and "Fargo" was a true story, too... *sigh*
You could tell Charlotte Milchard (the "real" Abigail Turner) was acting (somewhat poorly, mostly... other times almost decently... almost) about thirty seconds into the opening "interview." And if they would have just used actual shitty video cameras to film the "archive footage," it might have been more believable (doing all the counters and such on the police cams and the hypnosis session cams in post production was a bad choice - sickeningly obvious). But the biggest problem with the movie was simply that the story was horrid. I mean, yeah, a good concept (that has already been told about a thousand times), poopishly put forth. Oh, well... that's entertainment for ya.

Posted by: Krinkle at May 31, 2010 1:43 PM

Besides the time code issues... the tint on the "archival" video footage was also a bit beyond silly (Why did it all have to be in that weird, low-color-sepia crap? Goofy.).

Posted by: Krinkle at May 31, 2010 1:51 PM

this is a true story i meet someone from nome and they said it really did happen ALIENS R REAL AND THERE EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: luci at July 5, 2010 4:08 PM

I just watched the movie on the night of July 5th, 2010. Very strange. A lot of unexplained issues, for sure. But one issue I can tell you that's shouldn't be unexplained is that the good Dr. Abigale Tyler has got some mental issues of her own. How that woman could've ever been a licensed psychologist is beyond me? I truly believe she's crazier than most of the people she was treating herself. Terribly graphic though. The real police cruiser dashboard cam that caught the one guy murdering his wife, family, and then committing suicide himself.

Posted by: John at July 5, 2010 10:35 PM

I'm sorry 'colin', I don't really mean to call you a whack-job but you're sounding a little crazy right now...maybe you ought to try to find out other methods of getting your point across. You may have a valid one but it's being convoluted in the craziness.

Posted by: lillies nd daisies at July 7, 2010 4:42 AM

I have my ticket booked to go to Peru for September...I'm not sure if I'm going to see the Nasca lines (the images that can only be seen from air..tarantulas, etc) because I would have to spend about $300.00...and that's probably the point of their existence...but Peru has a lot of ruins from a time that we can never really comprehend. Hiking the Inca trail will be brutal...but hopefully worth it. I'm sure Colin has never done it, even though he claims to be an expert on all things that he has never seen.

Posted by: lillies and daisies at July 7, 2010 4:57 AM

I DON'T KNOW IF THE MOVIE FOURTH KIND IS FAKE OR NOT--KINDA SEEMS LIKE IT IS. I CAN'T FIND ANY INDEPENDENT INFO ON ABIGAIL TYLER OR ALIEN ABDUCTIONS IN NOME, SO I DON'T KNOW.
COLIN DOESN'T QUITE HAVE ALL HIS FACTS STRAIGHT, BUT HE MAY NOT BE AS NUTS AS YOU THINK.
FOR AN INTERESTING THEORY ABOUT THIS, CHECK OUT ZECHARIAH SITCHIN'S EARTH CHRONICLES.

Posted by: sly at July 26, 2010 11:31 AM

How can someone explain why does the video footage looks like shit...
(I know "believers" will say thats because aliens create a magnetic field or some crap like that)
...and the audio tape of Dr. Abigail Tyler sounds normal?
Shouldn't that alien-magnetic thing affect both tapes???
Face the facts!
Nazca lines in Peru are an offer to the incaic gods.
At least one of them lives in the sky, or shall we say heaven?
Wethaever, if the incaic people were so cool, influenced by the aliens, why the fuck where they conquered, robbed and massacred by the spanish who merely had powder?
People will spend too much monet seeking answers on Peru (I live in Chile) and should spend that money on a better education.

Posted by: camilo at August 10, 2010 4:08 AM

Disease. Many indigenous peoples rapidly died of disease brought to the Americas by the Europeans. It is difficult to fight if you are throwing up and shitting simultaneously. Isn't that common knowledge? I majored in Latin American Studies, but that seems like something that is pretty well known even to the general public...

Posted by: Wills at August 23, 2010 2:52 AM

Ok, well I'm not going to say there are such things as aliens, and I'm not going to definitively say there is such thing as god. But what I am sure of is that there is something. To believe that we are the only intelligent life In the universe is extremely selfish considering the vastness of the universe. If you look back nearly every early civilization has made reference to gods from the skies, or from the heavens, or from the stars. There even is written and depicted drawings and accounts of "space crafts" in ancient pictographs and writtings. Collin said that the Egyptians couldn't have built the pyramids, especially in only 10 years, but it is known that it took many many many years for them to be completed, some took as long as 50 years. And as far as there being "no other reference to Jesus" there are many accounts outside the bible of his existence, science has proved that he did exist. I'm not trying to convince people of aliens or of god, but if you look at the evidence and the details of ancient civilizations, you can't help but to believe that there is something of a higher power in the universe, whether it be god or something else, its there. Thanks.

Posted by: Kade at August 30, 2010 11:59 AM

Interesting comments by one and all.
If you are interested in researching issues around the mysteries of Peru / Egyptian Pyramids etc I would recommend a book called "The Fingerprints of the Gods". Can-not remember the authors name however it is truely thought provoking.
Good luck

Posted by: greg at September 16, 2010 1:51 AM

Maybe "aliens" are angels and demons... Just like it says in the Bible... I bet Colin never thought of that. And actually, there is overwhelming evidence for Jesus. Read "A Case for Christ"

Posted by: Jber at October 3, 2010 2:54 AM

to answer ur questions. there is no way they would release a movie that contains footage of a family getting murderd and give it an M rating lol. that would make it a snuff movie

Posted by: scatee at October 17, 2010 8:04 AM

Since opinions are like kittens, I thought I'd chime in. I find it interesting how black and white our beliefs can be. At the end of the day, it's equally as dogmatic to say the information of this nature is true, or false. The simple fact remains: no one knows, but many speculate.

The same is true of religion. Ask for some hard evidence and 'believers' will say to have "faith". I have a hard time subscribing to any structured religion (not because they are fundaentally 'bad', aside from being rigid, limiting, hypocrytical and offer an enormously over-simplified view of creation, the universe and how we fit into it), but by the same token, I refuse to pour myself entirely into the UFO / higher intelligence debate. That doesn't mean I'll discredit all of it either. I think it's impotant to ask: Why are we so fanatical about what we believe? Why are we so self-righteous and self-important? Why do we cling to our beliefs as if they were our right arm? I digress....

My point here is it's just as plausible one way or the other. Show me some solid evidence and I'll become a believer. I know the lightswich turns the lights off and on; Now there's something to believe in...by the way, I'm not jumping on next year's hobgoblin or unicorn movie-craze either. That doesn't mean I can't suspend some disbelief for the sake of being entertained.

Posted by: mike at November 21, 2010 5:11 PM

Ehh it was an ok movie...it was mostly just noises and bs. But seriously people! The "real archive footage" with the "real dr Abby" wasn't real. In the credits, they even included the "real dr abigail emily Tyler" with an actress's name. Look on imdb or just watch the credits. Jeez! Get a brain people!! Haha seriously!

Posted by: Yeah.Fu*k.yeah.everybody.wake.up! at December 11, 2010 7:41 PM

Mike you said it best. No one here on this Earth knows absolute truth. We believe what we want but we can never be 100% certain about it. Religion is called faith because it is simply that. Faith, whether you believe in it or not is your choice. Same with aliens, I for one believe their is some other life form out there. I mean our universe is HUGE so to tell me that only Earth is populated... that is kinda hard to believe. Am I 100% sure of this no, but hey its my faith. Who are we to bash others beliefs when our beliefs can be bashed just as easily. Do not think you are right simply because that was the way you were raised, or because you believe "facts" backup your cause. Because as easily as you come up with a fact to prove your argument someone can come up with one to disprove it.

Posted by: John at December 15, 2010 12:48 AM

It's just a movie. It is for entertainment. Eat some popcorn and wash it down with a soda and then go home. Or should we deliberate on whether Harry Potter and wizardry actually exist? Can I book a trip to Pandora?

Posted by: storm at December 16, 2010 11:58 AM

John,
Ever heard of the Drake equation? Look it up. The universe is huge but it is consistent. Life exists somewhere else but it certainly isn't swirling around our insignificant little cinder and taking Alaskans in their sleep. We aren't alone but we are isolated. Probably a good thing.

Posted by: blaise at December 16, 2010 12:11 PM

Either the aliens are already here, because planets of the inner stars in our galaxy are billions of years older than our solar system, or there are no aliens, or, the physics of interstellar travel are so practically difficult that aliens traveling to other planets is exceedingly rare. The last, least probable reason there might not be any aliens here is that intelligent life is so incredibly rare that it takes billions or trillions of habitable planets to get one intelligent species.

I'm willing to think about the possibility of aliens coming here and gathering samples, or doing all kinds of things. I saw a UFO once and it definitely wasn't an aircraft or a meteor.

But this movie isn't at all true. Screaming red flag #1 was "speaking ancient Sumerian". Since it's a language 5000 years dead, with not one speaker, that would be kind of difficult. And if they were aliens studying us, and bothered to speak any language at all, don't you think they would have academics entertaining themselves by learning the local languages? It's not like our broadcasts make it difficult to pick up signals. We would have to believe that these aliens live for a very long time and that they only bothered to learn that one language, then were so stupid they thought that was "the" language of all people for thousands of years? Come now. These are star travelers with fantastic technology. That seems far-fetched, even if you can get past the oddness of somebody knowing what ancient Sumerian sounded like.

Second ref flag was that it was very odd indeed that she found this book on ancient Sumerian and immediately knew it explained everything.

Third red flag was that the archive footage was too high of quality.

The fourth red flag was an inconsistency. Leave it for you guys to figure it out. ;-)

Posted by: Sci-guy at January 2, 2011 12:32 PM

Well I saw the movie and basically the clues where so obvious this film is a hoax and it's clearly acting and pretending. Here is why I think why.

Well a movie like this would have scientist, police, government crazy. Which obvioulsy they aren't the supposed real footage is acting and I can tell I am expert at these things.

Posted by: Susan at January 4, 2011 5:46 PM

I want to see your proof that this is all a hoax and all bullshit. Do you rerally think the government would let ppl acsess this information easaliy? Do you have proof that it was filmed in bulgaria and not nome? please I would love to see all the proof you have. Honestly im not trying to be a smart ass but if this really and truly is a hoax I would deff like to know. find me on facebook.

Posted by: Ryan Nutton at January 11, 2011 10:25 AM

its tyler not taylor idiot

Posted by: obama at February 7, 2011 1:23 AM


















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