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Aug. 8, 2007

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Do I have to say it? Really?

Really?

… Sigh … OK.

“Rosie v. The Donald, take 12!”

In the latest news about the upcoming celebrity edition of “The Apprentice,” word last week was that the producers had offered Rosie O’Donnell up to two million smackeroos to be on the show but that she turned them down, saying that there wasn’t enough money in the world to get her on the show. Cupcakes, maybe; but money, no. This is, of course, great news, and the only way it would be better is if the Donald somehow got involved (behind the scenes only!) with “Nip/Tuck” and my beloved “Friday Night Lights” so that next year my television could be entirely Rosie Free. And you know Trump, so you know he couldn’t keep his mouth shut when this story got out; he was of course quick to follow with his own statement that no, there never was any such offer to Rosie. Although his statement was carefully worded to say that he hadn’t made such an offer, which suggests that Burnett and company might have done the offering. In any event, Trump went on to say that he would actually be keen to have her on the show just so he could “fire her fat ass” in the first episode. Class act, him. And Trump also claims, in the way that only he can, that “everybody has been calling me and driving me crazy because they want to be on the show.” Of course, I wonder how he’ll spin things when the eventually announced list of C- and D-listers appearing on the show falls well short of the type of celebs suggested by “everybody has been calling me.”

Whatever. In more interesting news about a show that people actually enjoy, “Weeds” returns to Showtime next Monday (you can catch my review tomorrow, in fact). The show’s creator, Jenji Kohan, was recently asked about the fact that the new season’s first few episodes have been illegally available online for weeks now and, God bless her, she has a quite practical point of view:

Revenue aside, I don’t expect to get rich on “Weeds.” I’m excited it’s out there. Showtime is great, but it does have a limited audience.

In fact, Kohan said that if she “had [her] druthers, the whole [season] would be available right now.” What’s interesting here is the difference in responses to leaked content from a pay station and from a network. Here, Showtime isn’t directly concerned with advertising revenue, since the only ads it runs are its own, folks aren’t likely to cancel their subscriptions based on a few leaked episodes, and since the whole season wasn’t leaked (though it will surely be available online after the episodes have all aired), this leak also won’t chip away at DVD sales — so there’s little financial downside for Showtime. And there’s actually a lot of upside because if those leaks lead to more word-of-mouth and positive early reviews, there might be an increase in subscribers. The networks, meanwhile, are up in arms over the fact that so many of their pilots have been leaked online, and it’s easy to see why. Sure, the early leak of something good has a similarly positive result for them — folks will still likely tune in to the premiere, and the positive buzz and word-of-mouth surely helps the show and its ad revenue in the long term. But the crap-to-goodness ratio is way higher for the networks compared to the pay stations, so odds are that most of the leaked shows suck, and early word about their suckage means far fewer people will tune in and that, of course, eats away at the bottom line. Of course, pay station or network — at the end of the day, all these leaks are of course illegal. But I’m just saying that it makes sense why the networks are pissed to the nines about their leaks, while Showtime hasn’t really said a word (and in fact, not only have the first four episodes of “Weeds” been leaked, but so has the premiere episode of “Californication” and the first two episodes of “Dexter,” so Showtime certainly has plenty to get its panties in a bunch about, were it so inclined).

But ever-so-bloody slowly, the networks are learning how to embrace forms of new advertising. For example, one of the few pilots to receive any early buzz has been ABC’s “Pushing Daisies” (about the private investigator who can bring folks back from the dead, for a limited time, and uses this trick to help solve cases). In an attempt to increase the buzz, the Alphabet network is planning a public sneak peak next week. So for those California Pajiba folk out there, you can hit up the Hollywood Forever Cemetery next Thursday (August 16) at 8 p.m., where you’ll not only get to see the first episode in audience with the cast and producers, but you might even get one of the “limited number of special treats.”

And speaking of ABC, last week I told you that Rob Thomas bailed on the midseason show “Miss/Guided” over the ever ubiquitous “creative differences.” I figured this meant we wouldn’t see him on TV this fall and it turns out I was wrong, as he’s now going to be a consulting producer for “Big Shots.” This makes sense insofar as two former “Veronica Mars” producers are exec producers of the show. But it doesn’t make sense insofar as early word is that the show isn’t very good. About four male friends who are powerful business types, “Big Shots” stars Joshua Malina and Michael Vartan (who I like), Dylan McDermott (who I’m indifferent to), and Christopher Titus (who’s capital-B bad in my book). I hadn’t planned on checking this show out, but now I guess I’ll have to, although you gotta’ figure that any impact Thomas has on the show won’t be felt for the first couple episodes anyway. And if those early episodes suck as much as early word has it that the pilot sucks, we may never get to see what impact Thomas has on the show anyway.

Meanwhile, the wheels of the network busses never stop going round and round, and pilots are already starting to get picked up left-and-right for next year. The biggest news has been about Fox’s purchase of “The Oaks,” as it was apparently the subject of a heated bidding war between Fox and CBS. Folks are also making a big deal out of the fact that this is the first project Kevin Reilly is putting under his belt as the new entertainment president over at Fox. The show is a drama apparently focusing on three or four families who all live in the same house at different time periods between the 60s and the present. But hold on to your hats — it’s a house with some paranormal crap, which means that previous owners appear to later owners as ghosts or some shit. Sounds a touch like The Lake House to me, which is not certainly not a good thing.

And speaking of FX, it also has a new pilot in its hands, this one being produced by Peter Berg (who brought us “Friday Night Lights”). The untitled show is about two cops who go undercover in the Russian mob, only one cop has to track down the other when he goes missing. Can’t say I’m terribly excited by this, but if FX ends up giving it an episode order, I’ll surely try it out anyway (and for those who have asked about FX’s most recent new show — yes, I’ve been watching “Damages” but no, I’m not terribly impressed with it).

CBS carries on the trend of shitty development greenlights with a two-fer. First, there’s an untitled show from Mark Gordon, a “Grey’s Anatomy” exec producer. And it’s … yet … another … medical drama, this time focusing on a psychiatric neurologist. What-the-fuck-ever. Second, the network has greenlit “Worst Week,” another Americanized retread of something from the other side of the pond. The UK show is about a couple getting ready for their wedding and dealing with the hassles of their in-laws, with each season focusing on one week in their pre-nuptial life. Sounds a touch like Meet the Parents to me, which is certainly not a good thing.

The final pilot of the week, greenlit by NBC, was “Backywards & Bulletts.” Featuring Jessalyn Gilsgin and Matthew St. Patrick, among others, it’s apparently about a suburb where the neighborhood watch and the cops are a bit at odds with each other. I’m not sure what this means, but if we’re talking borderline (or even full-blown) suburban warfare, I’m totally onboard. But if it’s just another wacky dramedy, then it’s some more of the what-the-fuck-ever.

And we’ll end things on a positive note, with a trio of videos for your Wednesday morning entertainment — two promos for the new season of “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia” (!!) and a great clip of our four favorite Colorado boys helping out at a concert with the opening of one of the greatest tracks to ever come out of Canada:


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Comments

I do not get the Rosie O'Donnell hate. Trump is a pompous ass, a shifty businessman, a keeper of trophy wives and is seems an all around bad guy. O'Donnell is what, a fat, loudly opinionated lesbian that does a lot of charity work? And these compare?

I would be less wary of the vitriol towards her, not here specifically but in general, if there were more loud, large, liberal, out lesbian on the air to take her place in the public consciousness. As there's not, she seems to catch a disproportionate amount of hate instead of being cut some slack for bringing something different to the table. As for Trump, it's not like mainstream media has a shortage of pompous, rich, straight, white, conservative men, so you can keep him.

Seth, we share a love of many shows, but that opening bit, particularly the cupcake crack, really put me off the rest of your article.

Posted by: Roni at August 8, 2007 9:09 AM

Showtime has a limited audience because, except for Dexter (which I download anyway), it sucks nine times out of ten. So you see, there's no justifiable reason to get Showtime in the first place. Oh and that Weeds show hired that Olsen troll as a casting stunt so it can't possibly be any good. Her hiring just guarantees that I will NEVER watch even one episode, and if it's ever playing in a room I happen to be in I will leave said room.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 8, 2007 9:10 AM

The first two episodes of the second series of 'Brotherhood' have been leaked too. I'm told its very good.....

Posted by: Alexander Kaye at August 8, 2007 9:27 AM

Did you mean to say "which is not certainly" and then "which is certainly not" ?

Just curious. If intentional, I think it was interesting.

And I agree with the previous comment, the cupcake comment was unnecessary. Otherwise, a lot of good info!

Posted by: Dre at August 8, 2007 9:50 AM

Damn, I was hoping that "Big Shots" would have good early word due to my love for Mr. Vartan(who would be on my freebie list had I not missed that diversion). He's just so pretty. I would watch him read a phonebook, especially if he read it in French.

I am looking forward to "Pushing Daisies" since I still miss "Dead Like Me". It looks interesting and it is on ABC so there is hope, right?

Posted by: Melody at August 8, 2007 10:12 AM

Roni: I too appreciate and love me some Rosie, and think there is a lot of hate out there because she is Not Thin and is and Open Lesbian.

Cupcake comment aside, I think Seth's general dislike of Rosie in this context has to do with her being on television shows, and there I can't disagree. She was the only bright spot on the View, true, but in a fictional roll, she's not the character, she's ROSIE all the time. And I don't happen to think she's that great of an actress. And her blog is a little nutty.

What I'd like to see is a comedy tour for her ala Bill Maher. That would be worth seeing. But not on my beloved FNL or even on Nip/Tuck again.

Cupcake comment NOT aside- yeah, that's shitty.

Posted by: lilianna28 at August 8, 2007 10:23 AM

I agree, Seth, why the hate of Rosie? She's fairly innocuous if you ask me. That goes for Trump as well. The cupcake comment, however, I happened to like. It gave me a chuckle. For what it's worth, I bet even Rosie would laugh at that.

Posted by: me at August 8, 2007 10:35 AM

Reasons to hate Rosie O'Donnell besides the fact that she's liberal, overweight, and a miserable loudmouth:

1. She's a hypocrite -- a liberal lambasting profanity on television, yet started her career as a foul-mouthed (talentless) comedienne.

2. She's a bully -- no different than O'Reilly or Trump, who liberals hate for the very same reason.

3. Her Haikus stink.

4. She mocked the Chinese on The View ("Ching-chong, ching-chong")

4. She told a woman with cancer, I hope you die of cancer.

6. Have you seen Riding the Bus with my sister?

Posted by: Great Mango at August 8, 2007 10:37 AM

Great Mango, I'm with you on this one. It is one thing to be outspoken and to represent for certain cause, but you still have to *respect* people who don't see things in the same way (and treat them with the same dignity you think *you* deserve). I don't listen to people who lack common courtesy.

Posted by: Katie at August 8, 2007 10:59 AM

I meant "certain causes" and of course I was referring to Rosie, not any of the above commenters. Still working through my first cup of coffee :).

Posted by: Katie at August 8, 2007 11:04 AM

I was neutral on Rosie until the whole 9/11 conspiracy "who ever heard of fire melting steel" crap. That's where she moved into the "nutcases who lose credibility" column.

On the cupcake comment, I've noticed a tendency here on Pajiba comment-central to love the snark and the sarcasm when it's directed against "the others", i.e., mostly the right wing and as BarbadoSlim would call them the "Wal-Mart" set, but if it's turned toward a favourite person/show or leftie (politics not wank hand preference), people get their knickers in a twist. This bothers me. This is what Bill O'Reilly excels at (and why I hate him): he bullies and demeans lefties and then calls out any leftie who makes the slightest off-color comment. Scathing and bitchy only works if one is prepared for equal opportunity scathing and bitchiness. Bring it on Seth!

Posted by: PaddyDog at August 8, 2007 11:09 AM

hmmmm... just as I was about to bitch about the "cupcake" comment, I read Paddydog. Dag, I think he may be right. Scathing and bitchy must attack on both sides. As for DT he is a total outright DOUCEBAG! so there.

Posted by: 2manykids at August 8, 2007 11:26 AM

I am not skinny by any means and I thought the cupcake bit was funny. I think Rosie would think it is funny too. She freely admits that she enjoys her food which is totally fine, so I think the comment is just a minor dig. Plus I agree with PaddyDog, Pajiba should be an equal opportunity offender.

Posted by: Jackers at August 8, 2007 11:29 AM

It has been far too long since It's Always Sunny left, and I can't believe the DVD's aren't out yet! (I know they're on there way, but they should have been out months ago!)

Posted by: Patrick at August 8, 2007 11:41 AM

[Off-topic Firefly note]

There's a long and quite substantive interview with Joss Whedon on the Onion's AV Club site today, in which he discusses Buffy, Wonder Woman, Serenity, and other projects.

It appears unlikely, but definitely still possible, that there will be another Serenity film.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at August 8, 2007 11:52 AM

I think the cupcake comment was hilarious, she probably would have done it for one million freshly baked cupcakes, her big fat mouth and her big fat ass tell me she'd be able to put'em down.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 8, 2007 12:04 PM

My God, those "Always Sunny" boys are hot. I live in a Philly suburb, so I might have to start doing some on-set stalking.

Posted by: Geetch at August 8, 2007 12:08 PM

Just like me to be clueless about the cupcake remark and have to re-read the post to catch it. Goes to show how much it offended me though. Why is it that people latch onto these things all the time? Haven't you figured out what this site is about? Seth clearly stated in a recent post that he's a sanctimonious asshole. What more do you want? Perhaps it's time for him to pull out the sandwich board so everyone is clear.

Speaking as someone who is always on the verge of becoming overweight, and has a strong weakness for sweets, I can think of situations where money wouldn't matter, but an offer of unlimited cupcakes just might do the trick.

Posted by: katy at August 8, 2007 12:12 PM

Maybe the cupcake comment is just TOO EASY and we expect a higher LEVEL of snark from our TV Whore. :)

That said, 'knickers in a twist' made me giggle.

Posted by: lilianna28 at August 8, 2007 12:15 PM

Rosie = Douchebag. Donald = Douchbag. I would love to see VH1 or E! or any of the other shitty channels that suck on the teat of presumed celebrity set up 1 of 2 shows for these assholes. 1. The return of celebrity boxing. I would pay to see these 2 beat the shit out of each other, only to end in a double knock-out like at the end of Rocky 2...except no one gets up. 2. A political debate type of setup where other B and C list celebs present them with questions and topics over which they would argue. Whomever loses is damned to move in with the Coreys.

"It's Always Sunny..." how.I.love.thee! i ge the added benefit living in the Philyl area. Rob and some of the cast members are on the Preston and Steve show once every 5 or 6 weeks. Danny DeVito shitfaced on the radio at 9am is DEFINITELY good times!

Posted by: PissBoy at August 8, 2007 12:21 PM

Partly to correct a spelling error, partly because i love calling people this word: DOUCHEBAG*

Posted by: PissBoy at August 8, 2007 12:22 PM

FYI: The "Californication" premiere is availible free on Netflix (to view on-line only). I don't think that's so much a "leak" as a promotion -- no cause for bunched panites. Love the trade round-ups, rock on. :)

Posted by: Jessica at August 8, 2007 12:27 PM

Mmmm...cupcakes.

Posted by: TWoP Fan at August 8, 2007 1:47 PM

so sorry Pissboy... I will write it 100 times in my notebook. Douchebag, douchebag, douchebag...

Posted by: 2manykids at August 8, 2007 1:51 PM

so sorry Pissboy... I will write it 100 times in my notebook.

Posted by: 2manykids at August 8, 2007 1:53 PM

If I have to pick between Trump and Rosie, no contest: Rosie. Trump is the douchbag to end all douchebags. He's one of the few "celebrities" (and it bothers me to have to use that word, even if I do put quote marks around it) that, if he died tomorrow, I'd say, "'Bout damn time."

Having said that, Rosie's biggest problem is that she doesn't know when to shut the fuck up. I'm sure she improved The View, but that's not saying much, considering the other gaping pieholes on the panel. But still, if I have to hear someone who won't shut up, I'd much rather it's her than him. At least she's funny occasionally, he's never amusing in the least, he just thinks he is, and those are the unfunniest people of all.

Posted by: LL at August 8, 2007 2:01 PM

"Backywards & Bulletts." Featuring Jessalyn Gilsgin and Matthew St. Patrick, among others

I just gotta wonder why you decided to put on mittens to type just that one line. I mean, assuming the show is called "Backyards & Bullets" and that the actress you name is the same one who plays the cheerleader's firestarter bio-mom on "Heroes," Jessalyn Gilsig.

Um, and sorry. I'm at work as a copyeditor and it's hard to shut it off.

Posted by: BabyTyrone at August 8, 2007 2:13 PM

Sorry to bring up the cupcake comment again, but here's why I take issue with it: you can hate on Rosie for her outspokenness and her inappropriate remarks, fine. But when people talk about her they always, always, always have to bring up her weight in some way, as if it has some bearing in the conversation. Rosie is obnoxious, yes, but it's not because she's fat. And that's why the cupcake "joke" is inappropriate. It brings nothing to the conversation and only weakens your argument for not liking her. Like Roni, I felt less compelled to read the rest of your post, Seth, simply because you opened it at that low level. Too bad, because you are a very good, and very amusing, writer...usually.

Anyway, while Rosie is obnoxious, she also makes a difference to a lot of people who don't have anyone else to advocate for them. Trump is just obnoxious. I'd take Rosie over Trump any day.

Posted by: Shannon at August 8, 2007 2:40 PM

Shannon,

Lighten the fuck up. Cupcakes are funny.

Thank you.

Posted by: PissBoy at August 8, 2007 2:55 PM

2manykids...

I was correcting my own spelling error, hence the 2 posts 60 seconds apart, because i didn't notice it til I hit 'Post.' I'm not one of the spelling correction nazis unless it is my own.

Posted by: PissBoy at August 8, 2007 2:58 PM

Prior to the last year or two, I don't remember there being any "Rosie hate" out there, even though she's been famous for more than a decade. Over the past couple of years, however, Rosie O'Donnell has repeatedly proven herself to be an ignorant, hypocritical, loudmouthed, smug, overbearing bully. During that time, "Rosie hate" became popular. Those events are not coincidental.

It's not because she's a fat lesbian, and it's not because she's an opinionated liberal female. It's because she has an ugly personality and still insists on seeking constant attention from the media. Amusingly, based on her getting publicly and repeatedly bested by the loathesome Donald Trump, Rosie also appears to be pretty fucking stupid. She's not being singled out, she's going out and seeking the attention 24/7. The attention now reflects what her personality deserves.

So, cupcakes indeed, hee hee hee.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at August 8, 2007 3:12 PM

Who fuckin cares about cupcakes, who likes to eat them, or how cupcakes magically appear out of DT combover?

What I want to know is where I can find and download Dexter? Not that I'm into piracy ot anything like that.

Posted by: Daisy at August 8, 2007 3:17 PM

You mentioned D-listers on The Apprentice and this immediately made me wonder, "What would Kathy Griffin do if she were on The Apprentice?"

Now I hope that there are lots of A or B Listers and Kathy.

Posted by: the maljax at August 8, 2007 3:21 PM

Thanks for the Joss Whedon link, socalled. : )

Posted by: twig at August 8, 2007 3:22 PM

Shannon, that's not how "scathing and bitchy" humor works -- I don't see anything in the rulebook about limiting snarky remarks to the traits that make the person objectionable. Such a rule would quickly put The Daily Show, Letterman, and just about every other comedic enterprise out of business.

Is Donald Trump unlikeable because of his weird hair? His hair isn't what makes him a jerk, but people make fun of his hair because he is a jerk. Is Rush Limbaugh ridiculous because of his weight -- does being fat make him a pompous, evil ass? No, but I've surely heard plenty of left-leaning comics make remarks about it.

The cupcakes might be relevant, anyway. If she'd stuff a few in her piehole so she couldn't talk, fewer people would despise her.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at August 8, 2007 3:29 PM

twig, he's a bit odd-looking, huh? Somehow I'd never seen a photo of him before, and he doesn't look at all like I expected.

Okay, last post for a while; I unexpectedly got the day off and have ended up squatting on the thread and, I'm sure, annoying everyone.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at August 8, 2007 3:32 PM

Thank god for It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. That is all.

Posted by: meljune at August 8, 2007 3:38 PM

maybe she could pull a Mama Cass, and CHOKE on the f-ing cupcake! Now that would be a hit, 756 notwithstanding.. right B-SLIM..

Posted by: pasadenamike at August 8, 2007 4:37 PM

Speaking of Showtime comedies online - I finally watched the 1st episode of Californication on Netflix last night. Me Like. Now I need to wait for the DVDs - don't have the fancy pay cable channels

Posted by: Brian at August 8, 2007 4:52 PM

In a battle of wits, Trump has never "bested" anyone. Calling someone fat and then referencing their sexual orientation doesn't constitute an argument. He's an idiot. When forced to choose, I still gotta pick the generously sized lesbian over the gigantic asshole with shitty-looking hair and even shittier business acumen.

Posted by: LL at August 8, 2007 7:54 PM

Socalledonlycousins, I know what "scathing and bitchy" humor is. I come here because I enjoy the intelligent humor and the fantastic work of the Pajiba writers. I just don't think that an honest critique of a person's behavior needs to include disparaging remarks about their appearance (no matter which side of the political fence they're on). It's disappointing to read that kind of crap here; the writers are just too smart for it.

Pissboy...I've got nothing to say to you.

Posted by: Shannon at August 8, 2007 8:14 PM

LL -- if you are going to criticize someone for having shitty business acumen, keep in mind that Rosie ran a magazine into the ground and got her ass sued. Anyway, the two are not that much different. They are attention whores, mean-spirited, self-absorbed, ugly on the inside, ugly on the outside, and both like bush, but hate Bush.

Posted by: JP at August 8, 2007 8:14 PM

As someone who's had the opportunity to watch Rosie's evolution from stand-up (even before her pre-MTV ownership VH1 stand-up show) to uh, what she is now, I've gotta say she would probably find the cupcake reference quite humorous. Her routines included racial, cultural and sexual stereotypes.

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 8, 2007 9:00 PM

JP:

Sorry but I think you are not quite correct about the Rosie Magazine collapse. The way I seem to remember is that the Mag was circulating strongly and a dispute arose when Rosie tried to keep it faithful to her original vision when she entered into the deal. She was being vetoed and cockblocked and the mag was turning into another Martha Stewart or Oprah "lifestyle" type of publication.

The whole thing then exploded and went public and the readers left, in droves. Then everyone sued each other.

Rosie didn't run ANYTHING into the ground, they tried to use her and she stood up and left. Gotta give her props for that. The fact is, that dispute marked the moment when Rosie became belligerent and "not so nice".

Posted by: BarbadoSlim at August 8, 2007 9:12 PM

LL: Circulation was doing well until she quit her talk show. Then subscriptions dropped so the publisher tried to step in. Rosie was stubborn and said it was her way or no way. She quit the magazine (see a trend here?) and it went under. The Judge found both parties equally at fault. Hence, Rosie and her ego played an equal role in driving the magazine into the ground; an estimated $75 mil failure. Hmmm. That whole concept of "its my name on the ____ and I will do whatever the hell I want" is a lot like Trump, isn't it?

Posted by: JP at August 8, 2007 9:45 PM

what IS it with Americanizing perfectly good UK shows? Well, OK, 'The Worst Week of My Life' (UK title) wasn't as good as, say 'Coupling' or 'The Office', but it had it's moments. Why can't people just watch the English versions? Do Americans not get the English humour, or what? Because Australians never bother to make Australian versions of these things. And the American versions are NEVER as funny. I think the American 'Office' lasted a whole 2 episodes here.

I don't get it.

Posted by: rach at August 9, 2007 12:10 AM

Gotta say, plenty of people hate ann coulter and she is neither fat nor lesbian. i cant stand rosie because she's OBNOXIOUS and obnoxious knows no weight or orientation.

Just sayin'

Posted by: Christy at August 9, 2007 10:28 AM

Anne Coulter is a much better example than Trump here, actually: People make fun of Coulter because of her appearance as well as her stupidity and evilness, even though her appearance should have nothing to do with her objectionable nature. She looks like a skeletal trannie and is only popular in the media because she's a Dr.-Moreau-level-approximation of a blonde bimbo.

In fact, this routinely happens on Pajiba, but nobody complains about attacking her personal appearance, because she's on the opposite side of the political fence from almost everyone here. It's considered "scathing and bitchy" in that context because Coulter is a Nazi. In contrast, Rosie is politically sympathetic to some folks hereabouts, so a "cupcake" remark must be lowbrow or in bad taste.

Bwuh.

Posted by: socalledonlycousins at August 9, 2007 1:44 PM

What's this "LL, Rosie is just as bad, blah blah blah"?

I'm not a member of the Rosie fan club, just saying that Trump is a gigantic asshole, so any remarks he makes as to the character of another person should be taken about as seriously as one would take, say, Paris Hilton's opinion on the slutty behavior of another celebutard.

I don't think it can be said too often that Trump is a gigantic asshole. Whether Rosie O'Donnell is also an asshole is entirely irrelevant to me.

Posted by: LL at August 9, 2007 3:50 PM