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Hold the Phone! Now We Have to Rethink Everything: Oliver Stone Hated the End of 'Breaking Bad'

By Dustin Rowles | Trade News | October 9, 2013 | Comments ()


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It’s not that there’s not something to Oliver Stone’s critique of the Breaking Bad finale: I don’t agree with him, but I can kind of see his point about the unrealistic nature of the use of the machine gun in the Breaking Bad finale. What troubles me about Oliver Stone’s critique is the way he denounces violence.

Oliver Stone? Denouncing violence? Are we being Punk’d?

From Forbes:

“There’s too much violence in our movies - and it’s all unreal to me,” he said. “I don’t know if you saw the denouement [of Breaking Bad], I happen to not watch the series very much, but I happened to tune in and I saw the most ridiculous 15 minutes of a movie - it would be laughed off the screen.”

Stone pointedly critiqued Walter White’s method of handling the gang that kidnapped Jesse. “Nobody could park his car right then and there and could have a machine gun that could go off perfectly and kill all of the bad guys! It would be a joke,” he insisted. “It’s only in the movies that you find this kind of fantasy violence. And that’s infected the American culture; you young people believe all of this shit! Batman and Superman, you’ve lost your minds, and you don ‘t even know it! At least respect violence. I’m not saying don’t show violence, but show it with authenticity.

Wait, this is the guy who directed Natural Born Killers throwing Breaking Bad under the bus because there’s too much violence? Maybe Oliver Stone didn’t see his last movie, Savages. He wouldn’t be the only one who didn’t see it.

“I wouldn’t criticize everything. I’m just saying it’s the level of violence,” Stone explained. “If people think that bringing a machine gun to your last meeting is a solution to a television series that’s very popular, I think they’re insane. Something’s wrong. It’s not the world we know.

He also adds, “But action is not always a solution, character is,” which right there suggests how little he knows about Breaking Bad, give that he hasn’t watched “the series very much.” It was a character driven series, with a finale that tied back to the character’s actions over the course of the series, but you kind of need the context of THE FIRST 61 EPISODES to better understand and appreciate the last 15 minutes.

This is why people are beginning to prefer television to movies. Breaking Bad was a five-season character driven tour de force, and Oliver Stone now makes movies like Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps.

(Source: Forbes)




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  • Mentalcase

    Awesome! Now I have another reason to dislike Oliver Stone.

  • **I AM** NotTheOne

    Oliver Stone needs to close his filthy queef-hole of a mouth. Always.

  • ReadingComprehension

    He didn't say there's too much violence on TV, he said there's too much violence that looks unreal to him, on TV.

    I also found the Breaking Bad finale dissapointing.

  • SwollenFIngers

    I'm a huge fan of Breaking Bad, but I think if anyone can comment about violence Stone is your man. His
    comment "show it with authenticity" is what stands out for me and that
    final shootout scene didn't. Too many things had to be in place for it to work and miracle of miracles everything is. Did it really need a tidy ending? I felt let down.

  • GDI

    Someone who still thinks Stone is still relevant probably would be let down by the finale.

  • Marc Greene

    Annoying on at least two levels: 1) if you "happen to not watch the series very much, but I happened to tune in and I saw the most ridiculous 15 minutes", your review should be completely invalidated. It is like opening a book midway or at the end, reading one page, and saying "meh, it wasn't all I heard it was" 2) somewhat ironically Walt's infeasible device is completely plausible. The reason? According to Vince Gilligan, the prop guys ACTUALLY built that device to function exactly the way it happens onscreen (minus the live ammo). Now, using live ammo might not allow to operate for long or as well.

  • GDI

    The barrel would melt under sustained fire, typically at 200 + rounds. And M60's were notorious for jamming. I'm surprised that he didn't spring for a M240B; a much more superior weapon if I say so myself.

    I assume that's what you meant with that last line. :)

  • Marc Greene

    It is exactly what I meant.

  • dizzylucy

    I'd imagine he wouldn't like someone watching a 2 minute clip of one of his movies and building an entire review on those 2 minutes alone, with no sense of context, character development, or story.

    But if he hasn't bothered to watch the whole series and is just commenting on 15 minutes of the finale, that's essentially what he's done here.

  • Nebelis

    What ever happened to escapism?
    Stretching reality is the value of entertainment.

  • John W

    How seriously can you take someone with the history of drug use that Stone has? And yeah coming from the guy who directed Natural Born Killers? It is to laugh.

  • John G.

    Oliver Stone takes a break from being a shitty director and a car-crashing coke head to criticizing other people's art?

  • GDI

    I call that a Wednesday afternoon.

  • Kommerzschlampe

    Stone is commenting on how he doesn't like violence being used for entertainment purposes only. I guess he sees SAVAGES as a cautionary tale on how violence and crime ultimtely ruin the lives of everyone involved.

    I'm not sure he was successful in doing that, but NATURAL BORN KILLERS clearly supports exactly that idea. I'm actually kind of baffled you would bring up that film as an example.

    One more thing: Yes, I love Breaking Bad. It's better than anything Stone has done in the past 15 years, but can people please stop shitting all over him?

    Just look at all the great movies he was involved in over the years.

  • Guest

    But what he said was stupid and uninformed. He's made some good movies, and he's made some shit movies, but none of that excuses the fact that he is dissing the finale of one of the greatest TV shows of all time without having even watched the full series. Eff him.

  • Kommerzschlampe

    I agree :-) I was referring to this:

    "Wait, this is the guy who directed Natural Born Killers throwing Breaking Bad under the bus because there’s too much violence? Maybe Oliver Stone didn’t see his last movie, Savages."

  • Guest

    Oh, well, in that case, I get it. But there is always this problem with any depiction of violence. Some people only see the glorification of the violence and not the message. What is weird is that Stone, given his past films, would be so quick to judge.

  • Fredo

    By that rationale, it can be said that Breaking Bad is just as much a cautionary tale about violence and crime ruining lives. And being a much better allegory than Savages.

  • Kommerzschlampe

    I agree.

  • Fredo

    “Nobody could park his car right then and there and could have a machine gun that could go off perfectly and kill all of the bad guys! It would be a joke”

    It is a bit farfetched. Kind of like 2 stoner dudes agreeing to share Blake Lively without getting jealous of one another.

  • Steve Ward

    Ugh. I would expect a filmmaker, especially one with Stone's body of work, to have far more respect for context. This is downright disheartening.

  • GDI

    This level of criticism (read: bottom of the barrel) shows why Savages was utter crap; Stone didn't appear to know the difference between character traits and 2-d cardboard cut outs.

    To be fair, Blake Lively was involved, so it could've been an honest mistake.

  • emmalita

    Britney Spears didn't like it either.

  • bastich

    I wouldn't listen to her. Did you see the director's cut of "Crossroads"?
    Total Grand Guignol, man.

  • emmalita

    My point exactly!

  • "At least respect violence. I’m not saying don’t show violence, but show it with authenticity."

    Agree that Oliver Stone's career is a shining example of restrained, tasteful violence.

    /goes back to looking for that guy's eyeball in Any Given Sunday.

  • Legally Insignificant

    Somewhat related to this, I wanted to strangle each person who only tuned into the last episode of Lost and then complained about how confusing the ending was. That's like watching the final 30 seconds of Citizen Kane and wondering why it would end with a sled in a fire.

  • ViciousTrollop

    Spoiler Alert for Citizen Kane! I knew there was a sled, I didn't know there was a fire. I must watch that film.

  • John G.

    It was the opposite of confusing. It was the most ridiculous, cheating, simple-minded nonsense conclusion anyone could have ever made to Lost.

  • GDI

    It really was strange how linear the Lost finale was. The set-up was all over the place, and all the storylines converged on a singular, stupid point. Why?!
    They should just went balls out, time-space distortions, multiverses, Batmen, whatever. Anything but that sappy plea to excuse the prior indiscretions the show had made.

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