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Here's Your Very Interesting 'Fantastic Four' Cast For Josh Trank's Reboot

By TK | Trade News | February 20, 2014 | Comments ()


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I have no idea what to think of FOX’s Fantastic Four reboot. On the one hand, it’s FOX, and they’ve botched way too many comic book properties. They’re batting about .600 when it comes to the X-Men franchise, but other than that, it’s been a debacle. On the other hand, they’ve handed the reins over to Josh Trank, who directed the absolutely terrific Chronicle, and it’s also a return to him teaming up with actor Michael B. Jordan, who was announced as (gasp!) Johnny Storm aka The Human Torch.

Regardless, they have apparently rounded out the cast, and it’s… interesting. Unconventional in a couple of places. Apparently, Kate Mara (“House of Cards”, Shooter) will be playing Sue Storm, otherwise known as The Invisible Woman. Miles Teller (The Spectacular Now) will play Reed Richards, aka Mr. Fantastic (although there’s a potential conflict with his shooting schedule for the next Divergent movie). And for Ben Grimm, who becomes the giant, stone-hided Thing? English actor Jamie Bell (Billy Elliott, “Turn”). No word on who the villain will be (although early rumors of a female Doctor Doom have been debunked).

It’s an odd mix, and younger than expected since they’re basing it off the ‘Ultimate Fantastic Four’ series which uses a younger set of characters. I’ve never seen “House Of Cards,” but Mara has always struck me as dreadfully boring in everything that I’ve seen her in. Teller is by all accounts very good, though my most painful experience with him is from Footloose, and I genuinely enjoy Bell, even if he makes some questionable decisions (hello, Jumper). Of course, the internet is shitting its collective pants because Jordan is a colored fella and HOW CAN HE BE SUE STORM’S BROTHER OH MY GOD RACE CARD RACE CARD RACE CARD.

These are the times that I wish I could shout “shut the fuck up” to the internet and it would actually hear me, but alas, I cannot. The thing about the Fantastic Four is that there has always been a strong undercurrent of family to the comic, and that was sort of missing from the original series (of course, also missing was writing, directing, good acting, and even a decent villain). There’s no reason why a black Johnny Storm can’t work, it’ll just require a little retconning, and if that’s going to bother you, then you should pretty much just stop reading comic books completely because that shit happens ALL the time.

I’ve said it a hundred times — people have no problem with comic book characters coming back to life, traveling to the future, changing their own past, having their origin stories repeatedly altered and mucked with, changing history, but for some reason if you change a character’s race and people lose their goddamn minds. Because people are awful.

Honestly, the bigger concern should be that FOX might crap the bed on it all over again. But for now, a cautious optimism may be in order.

(via The Nerdist)



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  • Steve Ward

    Here's something I just wrote on a message board particularly rife
    with anti-MBJ sentiment, and as you can tell, I clearly have far too
    much time on my hands. So, in lieu of having a site or blog to post my
    utter ramblings on, I feel compelled to at least copy and paste it here
    for anyone with a similar amount of free time to endure, in response to the typical anti-MBJ "arguments" presented thus far.

    1)
    Let's assume Sue and/or Johnny are adopted in this version of the
    Fantastic Four story. Adopted siblings love each other the exact same
    way that biological siblings do, so it changes nothing about their
    relationship with one another. Since they're obviously going for a less
    mature version of the team, it may even add some drama in the form of
    your typical "you're not my real family" friction. But if the
    writers/etc choose, the relationship between Sue and Johnny can be 100%
    identical to the source material. MBJ being black changes nothing about
    this.

    2)
    Jamie Bell has been cast as Ben Grimm. If your argument is sticking to
    the source material, THIS is the casting to attack, isn't it? Bell is a
    very good actor, but the character of Grimm is largely established by
    his body type. Grimm, according to source material, was a tough guy long
    before he turned orange. He's smart and less brash than his Thing
    exterior would lead people to believe, but general badassery was part of
    his DNA in his original human form. Jamie Bell simply can't play an
    American football-playing, street tough guy. So the character of Grimm
    IS changing. The character of Johnny Storm isn't (as far as we know
    right now). If you want to be mad about changes to the source material,
    Jamie Bell is your designated target. Have at it.

    3)
    "Why not make Black Panther or Martin Luther King Jr. white in a
    movie?!" is not a valid argument. First of all, MLK and the like are
    historical figures and real people. I know we all love comics, but let's
    not act like Johnny Storm isn't more open to interpretation that
    ML-fucking-K. As for Black Panther, and indeed most other black comic
    book characters named here, his race is integral to his character.
    Johnny Storm's just isn't. If you cast a white guy as a superhero who
    shares his name with a black militant political group, and made a movie
    where that character ruled over an African nation and led them to
    prosperity, you're damn right there would be complaints. And if you
    can't see the difference between Panther and Johnny, you're either lying
    or an idiot.

    4)
    "He's always been white. He should always be white." Yes, there are
    black heroes in the comics. Yes, it'd be pretty god damn awesome if we
    got to see a John Stewart Green Lantern (hey, can't be any worse than
    the RR film, right?) But you know damn well that right now, characters
    like Batwing or Cyborg or Panther aren't going to be getting their own
    films any time soon. They just aren't big enough properties to get
    greenlit. Stewart is definitely the best chance. So telling people who
    want to see a little variety in their big screen heroes to settle for
    Black Panther and shut up is insulting.

    So first off, characters like the Fantastic Four were created in the early
    60's or earlier. If all of our entertainment in 2014 was based on the
    values of 1961, we'd be pretty damn fucked. Things change. It's been
    over 50 years, a little change after half a century isn't something to
    panic about. Secondly, things just change. Movies take liberties, films
    "based on a true story" typically aren't 100% historically accurate, and
    comics undergo more reboots, reimaginings and retconning than any other
    medium. It's par for the course. It's not a big deal on the page, and
    it shouldn't be a big deal here. Tell yourself it's an alternate
    universe if it makes you feel any better.

    Lastly,
    is this movie going to suck? Shit, probably. But Michael B. Jordan is
    literally the LAST reason why, out of the facts we know so far. He's the
    most talented of the actors (watch Fruitvale Station, he's pretty damn
    amazing), the most suited to his character based on what we've seen
    these actors do until now, and no one here has read the script, so we're
    in no real position to judge what the artists are going for. It might
    be amazing, and it might dispel even your worst fears. We have nothing
    to base that on yet.

    Well, no one read this, but some responses should be interesting, at the very least...

    Much love,

    Some PC hippy troll c**t douchebag.

  • Guest

    1)
    Let's assume Sue and/or Johnny are adopted in this version of the
    Fantastic Four story. Adopted siblings love each other the exact same
    way that biological siblings do, so it changes nothing about their
    relationship with one another. Since they're obviously going for a less
    mature version of the team, it may even add some drama in the form of
    your typical "you're not my real family" friction. But if the
    writers/etc choose, the relationship between Sue and Johnny can be 100%
    identical to the source material. MBJ being black changes nothing about
    this.

    2)
    Jamie Bell has been cast as Ben Grimm. If your argument is sticking to
    the source material, THIS is the casting to attack, isn't it? Bell is a
    very good actor, but the character of Grimm is largely established by
    his body type. Grimm, according to source material, was a tough guy long
    before he turned orange. He's smart and less brash than his Thing
    exterior would lead people to believe, but general badassery was part of
    his DNA in his original human form. Jamie Bell simply can't play an
    American football-playing, street tough guy. So the character of Grimm
    IS changing. The character of Johnny Storm isn't (as far as we know
    right now). If you want to be mad about changes to the source material,
    Jamie Bell is your designated target. Have at it.

    3)
    "Why not make Black Panther or Martin Luther King Jr. white in a
    movie?!" is not a valid argument. First of all, MLK and the like are
    historical figures and real people. I know we all love comics, but let's
    not act like Johnny Storm isn't more open to interpretation that
    ML-fucking-K. As for Black Panther, and indeed most other black comic
    book characters named here, his race is integral to his character.
    Johnny Storm's just isn't. If you cast a white guy as a superhero who
    shares his name with a black militant political group, and made a movie
    where that character ruled over an African nation and led them to
    prosperity, you're damn right there would be complaints. And if you
    can't see the difference between Panther and Johnny, you're either lying
    or an idiot.

    4)
    "He's always been white. He should always be white." Yes, there are
    black heroes in the comics. Yes, it'd be pretty god damn awesome if we
    got to see a John Stewart Green Lantern (hey, can't be any worse than
    the RR film, right?) But you know damn well that right now, characters
    like Batwing or Cyborg or Panther aren't going to be getting their own
    films any time soon. They just aren't big enough properties to get
    greenlit. Stewart is definitely the best chance. So telling people who
    want to see a little variety in their big screen heroes to settle for
    Black Panther and shut up is insulting.

    So
    first off, characters like the Fantastic Four were created in the early
    60's or earlier. If all of our entertainment in 2014 was based on the
    values of 1961, we'd be pretty damn fucked. Things change. It's been
    over 50 years, a little change after half a century isn't something to
    panic about. Secondly, things just change. Movies take liberties, films
    "based on a true story" typically aren't 100% historically accurate, and
    comics undergo more reboots, reimaginings and retconning than any other
    medium. It's par for the course. It's not a big deal on the page, and
    it shouldn't be a big deal here. Tell yourself it's an alternate
    universe if it makes you feel any better.

    Lastly,
    is this movie going to suck? Shit, probably. But Michael B. Jordan is
    literally the LAST reason why, out of the facts we know so far. He's the
    most talented of the actors (watch Fruitvale Station, he's pretty damn
    amazing), the most suited to his character based on what we've seen
    these actors do until now, and no one here has read the script, so we're
    in no real position to judge what the artists are going for. It might
    be amazing, and it might dispel even your worst fears. We have nothing
    to base that on yet.

    Well, no one read this, but James Connolly's response should be interesting, at the very least...

    Much love,

    Some PC hippy troll c**t douchebag.

  • Welldressed

    I'm one of the (apparently few) people around here who likes Kate Mara's particular dead-eyed skillset, but I'd be remiss if I didn't say that this was a missed opportunity to cast Zoe Saldana, because OBVIOUSLY.

  • psykins

    Who is the dude in the photo with MBJ and why does he look like some sort of Jonas/Osteen hybrid?

  • hapl0

    So improving on the original means bringing Kate Mara to replace Jessica Alba? Gotcha

  • In all fairness, Sue Storm was kind of boring a lot of the time in the comics, too.

  • BlackRabbit

    It was like she wasn't even there.

  • loganbowes

    You've seen Footloose but you haven't seen House of Cards? You should change that.

  • TK

    I haven't seen House Of Cards because I don't have time for any other TV shows right now. I saw Footloose because Dustin made me.

  • I hope you got workman's comp for that.

  • periwinkled

    Mostly I'm having trouble imagine Tintin's voice bellowing "IT'S CLOBBERIN TIME"

  • Bob Genghis Khan

    Sarcasm or not...'colored fella'...Really?
    And also, if you haven't seen Miles Teller or Kate Mara act why are you the one commenting on this story?

  • TK

    Listen, if a half-black South African who grew up under Apartheid can't use the phrase "colored fella" ironically, then I want off this fucking rock, OK?

  • JustOP

    I don't think it's fair to tell everyone whom has issues with this casting to 'shut the fuck up' or simply tarnish their arguments as something founded in 'racism'. Whilst I personally have no qualms with this, I understand how some people could. The appearance of a comic-book hero is undoubtably one of the largest contributors to their success, and whilst I don't think that this character is particularly iconic, I can understand how some people may be frustrated at not having the character they've loved over the years not appear as they'd imagined on screen.

    What does frustrate me is this sites recurring articles that prejudge movies based on their stars alone after their initial announcement. It's such a tired, uninspired, and insipid way of generating hits.

  • wonkeythemonkey

    The appearance of the Human Torch that matters is how he looks when he "flames on." As for his normal appearance, there are relatively few attributes that have stayed consistent across all artists on the series. True, "white" is one that hasn't changed, but that's basically nitpicking when present-day Johnny Storm looks distinctly different than 1963 Johnny Storm.

  • JustOP

    Well sadly others may believe differently. It's not up to you to determine 'what matters' as much as it is for anyone else here.

  • wonkeythemonkey

    WHAT?! Others have differing opinions? Why didn't anyone tell me!

    I henceforth resolve to never share my opinion about anything ever again, lest I offend someone who believes differently.

  • Davis

    It's silly and patronizing 'you can't complain he's black and that makes you racist'. It's just people complaining about a comic book character like always obviously some people will be morons and say something ignorant but complaining isn't bad, more people on this site and other site were complaining about the Batman vs Superman casting decisions.

  • AudioSuede

    Miles Teller? Isn't he, like, fourteen? Exaggeration aside, going for younger characters could make sense, I guess, but the family dynamic is going to be really really confusing unless they play it right. I love Kate Mara as an actress, though her sister is the more talented of the two, and Michael B. Jordan is fantastic. Jamie Bell as The Thing? I suppose if The Thing went on a fast and lost half his weight, maybe. Has there ever been a version of The Thing that was that skinny in the comics?

  • Sue Storm will be fine as long as Kevin Spacey doesn't throw her ass in front of a subway train. #trainsmyonlyweakness

  • wonkeythemonkey

    The poor conductor never even saw her…

  • John W

    I agree about Kate Mara. I'm curious how they're handling The Thing, make up or CG? Don't have a problem with Jordan. Don't know anything about Teller. A female Doom would be interesting, Eva Green? Or is she too old for what they're going for?

  • snrp

    EVA GREEN IN EVERYTHING EVA GREEN FOR PRESIDENT

  • I don't mind that they went with MBJ for Johnny Storm. It's an interesting casting choice and we know that he can play superpowered heroes thanks to Chronicle.

    That said, Johnny and Sue are brother and sister and that's not just a kind-of a big thing. It's part of the dynamics of the team/family that are at interplay. They're children of tragedy (mom dies in accident, dad operates on her and she dies, he ends up in jail a drunk, destitute mess) and their personalities reflect that: Sue has had to be the surrogate mother, holding it all together behind the scenes (invisibly, you might say) while Johnny lashes out at the world (hot-tempered).

    Plus why not take the opportunity to cast a black actress for that role? Off the top of my head, go with Lupita Nyong'o or Danai Gurira or Paula Patton. It's not like there's a slew of black female superheroes out in movies today. I mean, there's Storm and....

  • snrp

    Yeah, I agree that not casting a black woman as Sue was a missed opportunity on more than one level: I think increasing diversity in mainstream movies is an inherent good (yeah, I said it. COME AT ME, INTERNET), and, from a more mercenary perspective, they could have gotten some big talent on the cheap.

    That said, the suggestion that half siblings, or step-siblings, or foster-siblings, or adopted siblings can't have the same dynamic as biological ones is going to offend a lot of people, including me.

  • I don't think I said half/step/foster/adopted siblings can't have the same dynamic as blood siblings. Just that the history of the characters and their powers often touch upon their shared experiences. As long as the movie does the legwork to make that clear, it's not a problem.

  • AudioSuede

    Yeah, my wife has two black siblings, and their dynamic is pretty much a normal sibling relationship. Of course, they also had a single mother (who raised five kids by herself, which I mention only because we're discussing superheroes and that's as close to real life superheroism as you're likely to get), so if they decided to go that route and make it clear that they're biological siblings, they could go the single mother route, which I think could make the tragedy much more succinct and fresh.

  • snrp

    Sorry, it just seemed like your concern was "Sue & Johnny's sibling dynamic is an important part of the FF premise" + "the actors playing Sue & Johnny are not the same race" = "Sue & Johnny's sibling dynamic has been jeopardized." An argument which, is spite of being RUHL SILLY, is all over the internet this morning.

  • TK

    Fuckin' BINGO, dude.

  • Yeah, I guess the whole issue could be summed up as "If they just put some effort in and not half-ass it, it would work."

    Which is admittedly a concern, considering the past entries...

  • BlackRabbit

    He could be adopted.

  • I get what you are saying, but it really seems like far too many people are treating direct blood relation as the be all, end all of families. Are we saying that the only way you can treat someone as a sibling is if you have both parents in common?

    And really, Jordan is no darker in tone than say, Obama, who does have a white mother. Couldn't it just be that he's biracial, and they can be half siblings raised in the same home? I mean, I am technically the only child from the union of my parents, but I do have siblings from both of them that are just as frustrating and annoying as any other family member.

    And like it was said in the post, if you can't handle retconning, why read comics in the first place?

  • And that's an interesting point, particularly in modern America, where we see family combinations that go beyond direct blood relations. As BlackRabbit said, he could be adopted or they could be step-siblings or children from previous marriages.

    I guess I was seeing their relationship from the traditional blood-relatives brother-sister set-up in which they've always existed. If they're going in a different direction, it's OK as long as they explain it and make it work.

    Aside: the far more important casting choice will be Doctor Doom, whom they got sooooo wrong last time out.

  • There are blood siblings who don't look alike or have the same skin
    tone. It's because you never (or rarely) see them in the media landscape
    that audiences presume anyone playing MBJ's sister MUST look as close
    to him as possible. The siblings don't have to have a different parent
    to not look alike. Sometimes that's just how the genes play out. Also:
    mixed people exist. Hi, we're everywhere.

    There are black people
    who have light enough skin color to seem white to others. There are
    black people with blood siblings with varying skin tones down the line.
    On the other hand, not every "racially categorized as black" person can
    be swapped for another. (See the recent Samuel L Jackson or Lawrence
    Fishburne? debacle)

  • Yes to that and the bad casting of Doom. Julian McMahaon would have fit better as Namor, really. He plays the "kinda sleazy and lacking boundaries with women" type really well. Having Doom be the romantic foil to Reed and Sue was immensely stupid. Doom would just think that any woman that liked RICHARDS was a blind idiot not worth his time.

    The only ones Doom has affection for is DOOM...and his mama. Even bad men love their mamas.

  • BlackRabbit

    Is it gonna be Doom? It's the "Luthor-Superman" issue all over again. Spice it up! Give us someone else!

  • wonkeythemonkey

    Hear hear! We demand Mole Men!

  • Batesian

    I'm fine with the racial diversity, but a black Reed Richards would've been more interesting.

  • Chiwetel Ejiofor perhaps?

  • Batesian

    Now you're talking. Ah well. Can always use him for Black Panther.

  • BlackRabbit

    Hee hee Neil deGrasse Tyson.

  • "Reed, Mole Man is coming! He intends to conquer the surface!"

    http://i.imgur.com/yie16JW.gif

  • ShagEaredVillain

    Calm down; the brother-sister combo will make total sense in the film. In an effort to compensate for a blonde-haired, blue-eyed Jessica Alba, the studio has decided to put Kate Mara in blackface. It solves so many problems, you guys!

  • Oh good Lord, the literal whitewashing of Alba was mindboggling insane.

  • BlackRabbit

    It would be funny, just to mess with the critics, if they'd have Jordan show up with dyed blond hair that is changed the first time he uses his power.

  • Oh man, I wish Chappelle's Show was still on, because he would be the only person I can think of who could get away with a "he sets himself on fire constantly; of COURSE he's black now" joke.

  • Bert_McGurt

    "The thing about the Fantastic Four..."

    I see what you did there.

  • Mrs. Julien

    kd lang is ageless!

  • Welldressed

    This is why you ended EE, isn't it? So you could own the rest of us with comments like that. FTW, Madam.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    Flaunting your canuck cultural touchstones, are you?

  • Mrs. Julien

    My Canuckstones, if you will.

  • Sara_Tonin00

    I'll take the Mountie and the Husky as a pair, please.

  • This is just too nice. Let me throw an apple or two this way:

    USA! USA! USA! USA!

    Team Canada's going DOWN today!

  • Al Borland's Beard

    And tomorrow!

  • Mrs. Julien

    What in my personal conduct on Pajiba has given you the erroneous impression that I will not, in fact, cut a bitch?

  • I always assumed you were constantly cutting bitches unless otherwise noted.

  • Mrs. Julien

    As well you should.

    [whetting shiv]

  • BlackRabbit

    Eh?

  • Bert_McGurt

    Have to ask - are you watching curling right now?

  • Mrs. Julien

    If I take the chance of trying to watch TV on my computer in my cube at work, it is not going to be to curling.

  • Bert_McGurt

    This is about the only time I watch, for that matter. I think most employers up north are resigned to losing most of their productivity in the next couple days between curling and hockey.

  • Bert_McGurt

    WHOOOOOOO!! They pulled it out! Tight game from the Swedes, but Jones is a bit of a monster.

  • /scribbles down porn parody idea

  • Mrs. Julien

    I will be checking in on hockey in my innate Canadian "hoping for the best, but expecting the worst" way.

  • That sound you just heard was me choking on my McD's club sandwich just as Team USA was choking away a 2-goal lead.

    Still true: it is the most dangerous lead in hockey.

  • Bert_McGurt

    Hee hee, "checking" in.

    Hell of a game. Those girls should give lessons in determination. I'll avoid gloating too much for the sake of our Southern friends.

  • Mrs. Julien

    I am trying very hard not to swan and twirl about the office. There was bouncing though. Enthusiastic bouncing.

  • Bert_McGurt

    I can't be alone when I say I'd sincerely like to have seen that.

  • Quatermain

    Is that top picture from 'Due South?' Man, I loved that show.

  • Mrs. Julien

    There was an episode where he played hockey in the uniform. I made the most interesting noises.

  • BlackRabbit

    I have to question your Canada-ness. At no point in these comments has "eh" been used. Care to comment?

  • Mrs. Julien

    The use of "eh" in a tag question is a rhetorical device generally limited to spoken interactions.

  • BlackRabbit

    A likely story. Just what I would EXPECT you to say.

  • God Of Bal-Sagoth

    I just laughed so hard I think I threw my back out.

  • lowercase_ryan

    Kate Mara is super boring. But watch House of Cards anyways.

  • Steve Ward

    If I cared about this movie and wanted to go into nerd mode, my issue wouldn't be that MBJ is black, because he's amazing and a great pick for the role. My issue would be "so why not just hire a black actress for Sue?"

    I guess I should just be glad that we managed to get ONE black actor cast as a major superhero.

    It's also a shame that pointless race issue in comic book movie casting #273 is keeping everyone from focusing their nerd rage on Ben Grimm being a wiry little dweeb, which throws out the one small character trait that separates him from Hulk to the casual fan, which seems like a dumb, dumb move.

  • Jack London

    Scuttlebutt on this issue is that Dwayne Johnson will be Green Lantern John Stewart in Man of Steel 2: JLA Boogaloo, and Black Panther will have his own solo flick as the mysterious unnamed pic in Marvel's Phase 3. I hope that happens.

  • Davis

    Storm? Heimdall? Spawn? Falcon? Perry White? Theres five for you

  • Steve Ward

    "Major".

    Storm is the only one that qualifies. "That guy that's in the movie for ten minutes and opens the Mario Kart rainbow road" does not.

  • Davis

    They are major characters

  • Aaron Schulz

    Spawn and storm are certainly major, thats fine. But perry white heimdall and falcon are very much not major.

  • Davis

    Perry white isn't? Obviously he's not spiderman but he is big

  • Steve Ward

    The editor of the newspaper?! Seriously? That's the definition of a supporting character. Having a surname and some dialogue doesn't put you in the same category as the guys that the movie is titled after.

    The Best Supporting Actor category must be the most confusing thing in the world to you when year after year Extra #17 with the coffee cup is ignored in favour of all of those mis-categorised leads.

  • Davis

    Also electro and catwoman

  • Davis

    He is a serious character, it's not like it's like saying j jonah jameson doesn't matter

  • Steve Ward

    I give up trying to define a five letter word for you. It's obviously a lost cause.

  • Davis

    good

  • The irony here is that all of those "non major" characters very well could be if someone put the money and resources into them. No one gave a rats hairy behind about Iron Man until they built a franchise around him.

  • Steve Ward

    Well not guys like Heimdall or Perry White obviously, but I'm with ya. I'd love a hell of a lot more variety in the major characters of superhero films.

    Probably a large part of the reason I'm expecting to adore Guardians of the Galaxy - you don't get much more variety than white dude, black chick, Filipino/Greek/American pro wrestler, tree and raccoon.

  • BlackRabbit

    Therein lies the problem-if you change them, you enrage the central base to some extent and possibly endanger your bottom line, as well as suggest that you're just recasting someone of another ethnicity for the sake of publicity (not that I am or that I agree with the "question", but I'm sure it has been asked). If you don't you get accused of not trying new things.

  • Aaron Schulz

    Hes window dressing and heimdall is an elevator button.

  • BlackRabbit

    Let's wait to see how Falcon does in the movie first, ok?

  • Steve Ward

    I'm sure he'll be great, but Cap, Bucky and Widow are the major characters.

  • Steve Ward

    We have very different definitions of that word, sir.

  • Quatermain

    If I were Teller and had to make the choice of being the face of a Marvel franchise, or being mired in the movie adaptation of yet another after-market YA retread, I know which one I'd choose.

  • The Rick

    How can he be Sue Storm's sister? Good question. Fox just changed his race. You went and changed his gender. Moron.

  • Quatermain

    There are ways to point out someone has made a mistake in their post without being a toolbag about it at the same time.

  • The Rick

    If the author wants to make a mockery of the perceived social outrage, then he/she should do it in a way that makes him/her look intelligent enough to mock society. Otherwise, stop.

    Furthermore, he/she had an opportunity to ask the better, more important question. "Why is Sue Storm WHITE?" The answer is because it's easier to have a white girl with a black brother than it is to have a black girl with a white husband. Which is what makes people awful. Not, the fact that die hard fans care about continuity.

  • BlackRabbit

    Sir, might I inform you that you seem to have misplaced a comma in your post's last line, since clear communication is so important to you.

  • The Rick

    You might, Rabbit. You might...

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