George R.R. Martin Confirms That He May In Fact Need More than 7 Books to Finish 'A Song of Ice and Fire'
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George R.R. Martin Confirms That He May In Fact Need More than 7 Books to Finish 'A Song of Ice and Fire'

By Dustin Rowles | Trade News | June 4, 2014 | Comments ()


Yesterday, Anne Groell — George R.R. Martin’s book editor — suggested that it’s possible that he may need more than seven books in order to finish A Song of Ice and Fire. His UK publisher also conceded that the only person who really knows how many books it will take to finish the series is George R.R. Martin himself.

And so, EW reached out to Martin to ask him what his plans are.

“My plan is to finish in seven,” Martin says. “But my original plan was to finish in three. I write the stories and they grow. I deal with certain things and sometimes I find myself not at the end of a story. My plan right now is still seven. But first I have to finish Book Six. Get back to me when I’m half-way through Book Seven and then maybe I’ll tell you something more meaningful.”

In other words, get back to him in 2021, and we’ll see where we’re at.

Martin also spoke to HBO’s plan to end the series after seven seasons, suggesting that he thinks the network will actually need more time to finish the story he has remaining and once again offered that feature films might be an ideal solution to the problem, noting however that HBO is not exactly thrilled with such a prospect (and to be honest, neither are the viewers).

Source: EW. H/T to JJ for the GIF.

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  • Nick3

    I love GOT but Martin is novelist that I won't miss.

  • I'm just enthralled with his logic: they can't possibly compress this many imaginary pages down into three seasons of television. Fifty minutes of television can only contain so many imaginary pages before the story fractures. It's science.

  • foolsage

    There's that. But, playing Devil's Advocate... Martin probably has rather a LOT of story in his head right now. To him, it's all important, and all should be onscreen. And to be fair, we really don't know how much of the real story is left untold at this point. Maybe there's a lot more Wall/Meereen-style filler that could be happily compressed down to half an hour onscreen, but maybe there genuinely is a lot of meaningful plot left to put in words.

    One way or another though, at 10 episodes a year, the show is progressing considerably faster than Martin is writing. Hard choices will have to be made by the showrunners soon.

  • Enrique del Castillo

    I guess I could post this before it is taken down:

    Alex Rousseau from Lost audition tape for Obara features a very interesting divertion from the books and a pretty cool Oberyn story from the books.

  • Enrique del Castillo

    Say what you want about the Harry Potter books, but at least JK Rowling knew how to end them and was smart enough to keep on writing them instead of teasing more books

  • Maddy

    To be fair this is a much more complicated series to write than Harry Potter (and I say this as a big Harry Potter fan).

  • stella

    Maybe if he stopped talking about writin them and actually started doing it?

  • Avi

    Seriously. He gave them like 100 pages at the start of last year? Come on dude. Hurry up. It's gonna be like Robert Jordan and someone else will end up having to finish it, but who will care because HBO will have finished it already anyway...

  • Maddy

    I think he's got more that he hasn't submitted to be edited yet. At least that's what I'm choosing to believe.

  • Avi

    I hope so. I think I'm just bitter because I'd rather read it first rather than see it on screen first. I've enjoyed the way it's played out so far, I'd just be disappointed if it worked the other way around.

  • Maddy

    I get it and I'm totally with you in feeling bitter. I'm already freaking out about spoilers on the show. I don't understand how people who have been reading this series since the 90s deal with it.

  • sherryb23

    We drink a lot. Or at least use it as an excuse to do so.

  • JJ

    If GRRM's first book covers half of the way to the end of the series, and the next one covers half of that remaining distance, and the third covers half of THAT remaining distance, and so on. Does he ever reach the end of the series?

  • JJ

    Choosy commentors choose gifs.

  • Talking about it yesterday with someone who's a recent convert to the show and, honestly, a lot of Books 4 & 5 could likely fit in just 1 season of the show. Without treading into spoilers, some of the more mundane aspects of certain stories could be condensed/dropped without hurting the overall story.

    So GOT could conceivably finish in 7 seasons, George.

  • No doubt. But HBO is going to have to make that decision in a few months -- do they begin production with the idea that season 5 is a "combined half" of AFFC/ADWD, or do they just blaze ahead knowing that the result means season 6 will be WOW regardless of whether the book is released by April 2016?

    It's really a fascinating question.

  • Art3mis

    I think that no matter what they do, at least some of season 6 will have WOW plot in it. Which probably isn't an issue -- I'm an huge pessimist about likely release dates for these books, and even I think it will be out by 2016. The real problem is book 7, which will absolutely not be done by 2017.

  • They're going to have to combine them just to avoid not having the cast split like the books do. Once you do that, you've really reached the limits of what you can do with certain stories.

  • Right, but they can still stretch those two combined books over the course of two seasons if they need to. That would mean the series is almost certainly runs 8+ seasons, though and I'm not sure HBO wants to go down that road.

  • John W

    I can't stop laughing at that gif.

  • Lee

    Nicky boy might choose lowbrow shit to repay his debts, but he's always entertaining.

  • zeke_the_pig

    Well, the first thing I thought after seeing that header pic was that Nic Cage was confirmed to be starring in the next season of Game of Thrones. Thank you very much for getting my hopes up, Dustin!

    The Recast Jon Snow campaign starts here.

  • Danar the Barbarian

    Imagine if they recast Daario again. Out with Blandy Beardo and in with Nic Cage. That would be AMAZING.

  • logan

    The thing is GRRM has worked in TV for a long time he should know better.
    This, much like the books themselves, may end tragically. Hey maybe its fitting.

  • Maddy

    He's still kidding himself with how fast they're moving through the story on the show. Oh GRRM I love you but seriously dude.

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